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"CONTAGION" FILM MESSAGE: Govt vaccines GOOD, fringe homeopathy BAD.

 
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"CONTAGION" FILM MESSAGE: Govt vaccines GOOD, fringe homeopathy BAD.
*spoilers*

This huge let down of a film parrots a familiar status quo meme: government is right and good, but fringe health solutions are "bad" and don't work.

In the movie, the government eventually finds a vaccine cure, while a fringe online journalist played by Jude Law promotes a homeopathic remedy that is cheap and doesn't line the pockets of the pharmeceuticals.

While the movie seemingly begins to formulate a provocative message about Big Pharma, it ABRUPTLY ENDS, leaving us with the implication that Jude Law's character had lied in telling his online fans that his alternative therapy had worked. It also ends with the implication that the government vaccine was a huge success.

The oddest thing about the movie is how it ENDS -- very abrupt, just when you think the third act is about to revv into high gear, everything is resolved, with the Feds looking like heroes.
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*spoilers*

This huge let down of a film parrots a familiar status quo meme: government is right and good, but fringe health solutions are "bad" and don't work.

In the movie, the government eventually finds a vaccine cure, while a fringe online journalist played by Jude Law promotes a homeopathic remedy that is cheap and doesn't line the pockets of the pharmeceuticals.

While the movie seemingly begins to formulate a provocative message about Big Pharma, it ABRUPTLY ENDS, leaving us with the implication that Jude Law's character had lied in telling his online fans that his alternative therapy had worked. It also ends with the implication that the government vaccine was a huge success.

The oddest thing about the movie is how it ENDS -- very abrupt, just when you think the third act is about to revv into high gear, everything is resolved, with the Feds looking like heroes.
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I'll continue to bump this because I actually think it's sort of important.

It's a very directed message of: VACCINES GOOD, ALTERNATIVE THERAPIES BAD.

Some of the film APPEARS to stray into a territory questioning Big Pharma -- in the middle of the movie you get the feeling Big Govt and Big Pharma will be the bad guys -- but it goes right off the those rails at the end, when Jude Law's character is impugned and made to be a snake oil salesman.

You get the feeling of a STUDIO RE-WRITE.

The movie ends SO abruptly, without any climax. It's just *WHAM*, government fixed it, everything's fine.

It's more complex than what I'm able to convene, but it's late and I just saw it.

There's more to dicuss and analyze here.
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* I meant to say "convey".
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*spoilers*

This huge let down of a film parrots a familiar status quo meme: government is right and good, but fringe health solutions are "bad" and don't work.

In the movie, the government eventually finds a vaccine cure, while a fringe online journalist played by Jude Law promotes a homeopathic remedy that is cheap and doesn't line the pockets of the pharmeceuticals.

While the movie seemingly begins to formulate a provocative message about Big Pharma, it ABRUPTLY ENDS, leaving us with the implication that Jude Law's character had lied in telling his online fans that his alternative therapy had worked. It also ends with the implication that the government vaccine was a huge success.

The oddest thing about the movie is how it ENDS -- very abrupt, just when you think the third act is about to revv into high gear, everything is resolved, with the Feds looking like heroes.
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Edutainment for sheeple I guess.

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I noticed that too. In just about every movie these days, there seems to be some subtle or not so subtle political, social or economic message delivered. What happened to movies being entertainment? It's getting to be a 2-3 hour infomercial anymore.vrwc
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Re write.
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That's because homeopathy is complete and utter bullshit for the stupid masses.
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That's because homeopathy is complete and utter bullshit for the stupid masses.
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Ahem....

Vitamin D is truly legit.

[link to www.vitamindcouncil.org]

Virtually all of us become vitamin D deficient by the end of the winter. Ever wonder why we tend to get cold, flu, etc during the winter but almost never during the summer?
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That's because homeopathy is complete and utter bullshit for the stupid masses.
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I'm sure a lot of it is. I use the word "hemopathy" because it was used once in the film. The rest of the film simply implies that this "alternative" therapy isn't viewed as safe or acceptable by the Feds.

Jude Law's character argues Big Phrama can't make any money off it.

You get the feeling of a serious re-write toward the end, because the movie goes right off the rails and ends with a thud and a big standing ovation for Big Govt.
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That's because homeopathy is complete and utter bullshit for the stupid masses.
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I'm sure a lot of it is. I use the word "hemopathy" because it was used once in the film. The rest of the film simply implies that this "alternative" therapy isn't viewed as safe or acceptable by the Feds.

Jude Law's character argues Big Phrama can't make any money off it.

You get the feeling of a serious re-write toward the end, because the movie goes right off the rails and ends with a thud and a big standing ovation for Big Govt.
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Homeopathy works just fine when used correctly.

It works on children, babies and animals - so the placebo effect is ruled out.

Anyone claiming homeopathy has been debunked is telling huge lies.
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Videogames have better messages and are more involving and deep fiction than movies these days anyway.
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Just got back from the movie and agree with y’all about the ending. Being the conspiracy freak that I am I would have changed the ending.

My ending would have been.. After the Gov and big Pharma announce victory and started mass inoculations, they go back into the lab and find the inoculated monkeys dead. Jude Law (Blogger dude) was correct all along. The cure was Forsythia. But that would have defeated the purpose of the movie. It’s to show that homeopathic/herbal/alternative medicine is bad.

Do a little research into the Spanish flu of 1918. Those who were treated homeopathically survived, but the young people who were given the newly created wonder drug, aspirin, were among the largest group of fatalities

[link to www.nesh.com]

No wonder the FDA Is trying to control and or shut down the herbal industry.

BTW…Forsythia is a real herb. In Chinese medicine its known as Lian Qiao which is known for its wide spectrum antibiotic effect! Interesting...

[link to alternativehealing.org]
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Yep total propaganda piece for big pharma. Apple cider vinegar all the way. Take it every day and you won't get sick the way you used to.
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"The nature of the universe is such that ends can never justify the means. On the contrary, the means always determine the end."
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I guess im not the only one that thought this message had a muffled ending.
The beginning was really sad, people dying and they have no idea why.. I was almost in tears.
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You should have also included "Spoilers" in your title dude, I almost ruined it to me watching the damn movie!
And Miles to go before I sleep, miles to go before I sleep....
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I'll continue to bump this because I actually think it's sort of important.

It's a very directed message of: VACCINES GOOD, ALTERNATIVE THERAPIES BAD.

Some of the film APPEARS to stray into a territory questioning Big Pharma -- in the middle of the movie you get the feeling Big Govt and Big Pharma will be the bad guys -- but it goes right off the those rails at the end, when Jude Law's character is impugned and made to be a snake oil salesman.

You get the feeling of a STUDIO RE-WRITE.

The movie ends SO abruptly, without any climax. It's just *WHAM*, government fixed it, everything's fine.

It's more complex than what I'm able to convene, but it's late and I just saw it.

There's more to dicuss and analyze here.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1537959


When I saw the cast, I figured it would be an illuminati message machine...gynneth partlow...total nwo scuzz
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I noticed that too. In just about every movie these days, there seems to be some subtle or not so subtle political, social or economic message delivered. What happened to movies being entertainment? It's getting to be a 2-3 hour infomercial anymore.vrwc
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Hollywood has always been an arm of TPTB
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You should have also included "Spoilers" in your title dude, I almost ruined it to me watching the damn movie!
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Right when you click it says "spoilers" at the top. You couldn't resist continuing to read it?
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Just got back from the movie and agree with y’all about the ending. Being the conspiracy freak that I am I would have changed the ending.

My ending would have been.. After the Gov and big Pharma announce victory and started mass inoculations, they go back into the lab and find the inoculated monkeys dead. Jude Law (Blogger dude) was correct all along. The cure was Forsythia. But that would have defeated the purpose of the movie. It’s to show that homeopathic/herbal/alternative medicine is bad.

Do a little research into the Spanish flu of 1918. Those who were treated homeopathically survived, but the young people who were given the newly created wonder drug, aspirin, were among the largest group of fatalities

[link to www.nesh.com]

No wonder the FDA Is trying to control and or shut down the herbal industry.

BTW…Forsythia is a real herb. In Chinese medicine its known as Lian Qiao which is known for its wide spectrum antibiotic effect! Interesting...

[link to alternativehealing.org]
 Quoting: CowgirlK


Very interesting.
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*spoilers*

This huge let down of a film parrots a familiar status quo meme: government is right and good, but fringe health solutions are "bad" and don't work.

In the movie, the government eventually finds a vaccine cure, while a fringe online journalist played by Jude Law promotes a homeopathic remedy that is cheap and doesn't line the pockets of the pharmeceuticals.

While the movie seemingly begins to formulate a provocative message about Big Pharma, it ABRUPTLY ENDS, leaving us with the implication that Jude Law's character had lied in telling his online fans that his alternative therapy had worked. It also ends with the implication that the government vaccine was a huge success.

The oddest thing about the movie is how it ENDS -- very abrupt, just when you think the third act is about to revv into high gear, everything is resolved, with the Feds looking like heroes.
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wow, that's damn near embarassing...

from this angle anyway

is my face red
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I'll continue to bump this because I actually think it's sort of important.

It's a very directed message of: VACCINES GOOD, ALTERNATIVE THERAPIES BAD.

Some of the film APPEARS to stray into a territory questioning Big Pharma -- in the middle of the movie you get the feeling Big Govt and Big Pharma will be the bad guys -- but it goes right off the those rails at the end, when Jude Law's character is impugned and made to be a snake oil salesman.

You get the feeling of a STUDIO RE-WRITE.

The movie ends SO abruptly, without any climax. It's just *WHAM*, government fixed it, everything's fine.

It's more complex than what I'm able to convene, but it's late and I just saw it.

There's more to dicuss and analyze here.
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takes programming to a whole new level doesn't it
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I just saw this in the theatre and you bring up some very good points!
The gov't when they are interviewing Jude Law's character are telling him what they are going to accuse him of, but it's questionable whether it is the truth or not. He nods as though he knew that they would frame him in that way. Then the movie ends.

The movie shows us:

-Multiple shots of people taking the vaccine nasally, at which point they put on a bracelet to show that they are "safe"

-Security lockdown and checkpoints at state lines preventing people from traveling

-Riots and looting of stores and homes

-Mass graves for the dead

And you are right, the message is definitely that the vaccine is the only sane and safe way to stay alive, whereas natural therapies are quackery and fraudulent. This movie is blatant propaganda. They even had Sanjay Gupta (the Doctor on CNN) play himself.
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movie had an anticlimactic ending =(
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The first time I saw that there was going to be a movie called "Contagion", the first thing that popped into my mind was that it would be propaganda to scare more of the public into taking the vaccines for the next big false flag flu scare (or whatever it is going to be).

Don't know if I want to see the movie now, it might piss me off too much.

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