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Gravity is not what scientists think it is, neither are planets!

 
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Publishing an article in a peer-reviewed system is certain death to an idea whose time has come, and is not accepted by the status quo, it is also ridiculed without question or attention. Lets face it, science has stalled concerning the understanding of what causes gravitation. They have made up theory after theory with ad hoc hypothesis after ad hoc hypothesis. Theoretical physicists have created a plathora of weird crazy ideas, "dark matter, dark energy, big bang, higgs boson, black holes, supersymmetry, spacetime", etc. These ideas require FAITH! They have never been measured! The worst part is that when the scientists say they have been measured, what are they measuring? When they measure mass, what are they looking at? They don't even know what gives things MASS!!



I can solve this conundrum with one simple idea. Only I'm going to be shot down time and again for supposing such radical idea. All planets were once the cores of stars, yes even the moons of those planets. Venus and Earth were a binary star system (this is why Venus's axis is retrograde to Earth's axis), Neptune, Uranus, Jupiter and Saturn are currently stars that are transitioning to the semi-solid phase that Earth and Venus are currently in, and will eventually become tiny moons after the expansion phases of their main "current" stars. Their cores are all iron, not "metallic hydrogen" mumbo jumbo! This also explains why Neptune, Uranus, Jupiter and Saturn give off more energy than they take in via the sun, they are still cooling off!



Gravity is a secondary effect caused by the fusion process itself, and is prevalent throughout the universe, but is not the driver of this place. It does not keep the planets in their orbit, this is misconstrued because both the strength of magnetism and "gravity" is proportional to the inverse square of its distance. "Gravity" also does not "bend space time". The idea that light "bends" around an object with sufficient "mass" (mind you is a mystery to ALL scientists except for me), is nuts! If EPR is correct, as was scientifically measured, then everything is connected to everything else! If there is a direct connection, then why all this "bending". Bending is not even necessary! Besides, how can concepts such as space be bent? Can I "bend" democracy? Can I "bend" time? Time and space are CONCEPTS! They do not exist. You can not point me in the direction of where space is, because it is a concept. You can not point me in the direction that time flows because it LACKS ORTHOGONALITY! Einstein reified space time, which is the fallacy that most mathematicians make when a concept becomes a physical object! Our current world is inundated and infected with the idea that ambiguity means intelligence! No! Ambiguity via large math equations and titles such as Dr. So-and-So of Harvard are NOT required in science! Science only calls for explaining phenomena! It does not care about truth or title!!



This is why we are not making any strides, and are as clueless as ever. The graduate schools that pump out these, "geniuses", need to understand that the minds that created the problems can NOT be the minds that solve them. The problems they create are based off assumptions rooted in ambiguity anyways! Do not believe me? Math can not even define a simple concept called a point! Look it up on wikipedia! They say it is a primitive notion! You know why they don't give it a solid definition? Because they are going make multiple definitions and then use them INCONSISTENTLY, a.k.a. UNSCIENTIFICALLY! In math a point can be a dot, which has height, and width similar to a mark with a pen on a piece of paper. A point can be an "event" which is similar to two cars colliding, a.k.a. motion. A point can also be a location, which is does not have any dimension and is not an actual object, a.k.a. "black holes".



Just to make a tiny little prediction for my own benefit/cause, NASA just recently sent up a new satellite. This satellite is called the GRAIL, and it is supposed to measure the inner layers of the moon. What do you think they will find? My guess is that they will find iron, because the moon is an ancient dead star, that is older than anything scientists could have ever imagined! The Earth was its primary star at one point as well, which also explains why it's near side has "ocean" like features. The "ocean" like features were giant pools of molten metal! 5a

All the planets are magnetized because of the iron that had electric current flowing through them, like giant electromagnets!

The most shocking part of my theory is that the Earth is OLDER than the sun! Which means the sun IS MORE VOLATILE THAN SCIENTISTS THINK!damned

Have a great day whoever you are!
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Try this on for size, my theory.

At the centre of the sun is a feeding black hole, when the sun stops feeding for a period it will go dark abd spit out new planets and then start feeding again :)
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Interesting theories.
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Try this on for size, my theory.

At the centre of the sun is a feeding black hole, when the sun stops feeding for a period it will go dark abd spit out new planets and then start feeding again :)
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there is no gravity, the earth just sucks
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"I can hear the old man laughing, what good is a used-up world and how can it be worth having!" (Sting)
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there is no gravity, the earth just sucks
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Actually Al Gore sucks. And he sucks so bad that he alone provides for the gravitational element for our entire solar system.
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I like your descriptions of things. Please continue.

I have my own theory about gravity and its not like yours but your concept is certainly interesting.

My idea of gravity is not what you have ever heard of before. And at this stage, who is to say.

We try to understand what we see in a mirror.
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Try this on for size, my theory.

At the centre of the sun is a feeding black hole, when the sun stops feeding for a period it will go dark abd spit out new planets and then start feeding again :)
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Idk. Any theory right now is better than what scientists are proposing. Dark matter is utter rubbish! lol

My reasoning for the theory can go even further in depth, with a problem stated by wikipedia's nebular hypothesis page:

Wikipedia: How 1 cm sized particles coalesce into 1 km planetesimals is a mystery. This mechanism appears to be the key to the question as to why some stars have planets, while others have nothing around them, even dust belts.[17]

According to my theory, the star starts forming, and then "adopts" the stars that are in their last stages, until they are completely dead. The earth is not completely dead yet, it still has vast molten plumes and liquid iron/nickel inside of it.

All 8 planets (dying stars) were adopted by the sun, all planetesimals and 1cm sized particles were adopted too.
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Publishing an article in a peer-reviewed system is certain death to an idea whose time has come, and is not accepted by the status quo, it is also ridiculed without question or attention. Lets face it, science has stalled concerning the understanding of what causes gravitation. They have made up theory after theory with ad hoc hypothesis after ad hoc hypothesis. Theoretical physicists have created a plathora of weird crazy ideas, "dark matter, dark energy, big bang, higgs boson, black holes, supersymmetry, spacetime", etc. These ideas require FAITH! They have never been measured! The worst part is that when the scientists say they have been measured, what are they measuring? When they measure mass, what are they looking at? They don't even know what gives things MASS!!



I can solve this conundrum with one simple idea. Only I'm going to be shot down time and again for supposing such radical idea. All planets were once the cores of stars, yes even the moons of those planets. Venus and Earth were a binary star system (this is why Venus's axis is retrograde to Earth's axis), Neptune, Uranus, Jupiter and Saturn are currently stars that are transitioning to the semi-solid phase that Earth and Venus are currently in, and will eventually become tiny moons after the expansion phases of their main "current" stars. Their cores are all iron, not "metallic hydrogen" mumbo jumbo! This also explains why Neptune, Uranus, Jupiter and Saturn give off more energy than they take in via the sun, they are still cooling off!



Gravity is a secondary effect caused by the fusion process itself, and is prevalent throughout the universe, but is not the driver of this place. It does not keep the planets in their orbit, this is misconstrued because both the strength of magnetism and "gravity" is proportional to the inverse square of its distance. "Gravity" also does not "bend space time". The idea that light "bends" around an object with sufficient "mass" (mind you is a mystery to ALL scientists except for me), is nuts! If EPR is correct, as was scientifically measured, then everything is connected to everything else! If there is a direct connection, then why all this "bending". Bending is not even necessary! Besides, how can concepts such as space be bent? Can I "bend" democracy? Can I "bend" time? Time and space are CONCEPTS! They do not exist. You can not point me in the direction of where space is, because it is a concept. You can not point me in the direction that time flows because it LACKS ORTHOGONALITY! Einstein reified space time, which is the fallacy that most mathematicians make when a concept becomes a physical object! Our current world is inundated and infected with the idea that ambiguity means intelligence! No! Ambiguity via large math equations and titles such as Dr. So-and-So of Harvard are NOT required in science! Science only calls for explaining phenomena! It does not care about truth or title!!



This is why we are not making any strides, and are as clueless as ever. The graduate schools that pump out these, "geniuses", need to understand that the minds that created the problems can NOT be the minds that solve them. The problems they create are based off assumptions rooted in ambiguity anyways! Do not believe me? Math can not even define a simple concept called a point! Look it up on wikipedia! They say it is a primitive notion! You know why they don't give it a solid definition? Because they are going make multiple definitions and then use them INCONSISTENTLY, a.k.a. UNSCIENTIFICALLY! In math a point can be a dot, which has height, and width similar to a mark with a pen on a piece of paper. A point can be an "event" which is similar to two cars colliding, a.k.a. motion. A point can also be a location, which is does not have any dimension and is not an actual object, a.k.a. "black holes".



Just to make a tiny little prediction for my own benefit/cause, NASA just recently sent up a new satellite. This satellite is called the GRAIL, and it is supposed to measure the inner layers of the moon. What do you think they will find? My guess is that they will find iron, because the moon is an ancient dead star, that is older than anything scientists could have ever imagined! The Earth was its primary star at one point as well, which also explains why it's near side has "ocean" like features. The "ocean" like features were giant pools of molten metal! 5a

All the planets are magnetized because of the iron that had electric current flowing through them, like giant electromagnets!

The most shocking part of my theory is that the Earth is OLDER than the sun! Which means the sun IS MORE VOLATILE THAN SCIENTISTS THINK!damned

Have a great day whoever you are!
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I like it.
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I like your descriptions of things. Please continue.

I have my own theory about gravity and its not like yours but your concept is certainly interesting.

My idea of gravity is not what you have ever heard of before. And at this stage, who is to say.

We try to understand what we see in a mirror.
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Much more under the thread "earth is a black dwarf star".

I just need people to think here!

Let do a simple thought experiment: What happens if you were to set a 45lb iron cube onto another iron cube with the same amount of weight?

What would happen? does gravity "fuse" the iron together? Or are they just as loose, and you can still pick them up with your hands?

Does the iron "heat up" when they are resting on top of each other? Better yet, does the iron heat up, melt and then start spinning creating a magnetic field?

I think you see my point! People believe gravity has enough force to not only FUSE iron together, but to do so in a way that creates a GIGANTIC iron filled hot mess! lol

My theory states that iron does not fuse together from cold dust/gas, which the mainstream "planet" model suggests, but that iron is fused by large scale thermonuclear forces, a.k.a. fusion.

And to assume that only fusion can do this, not gravity, as proven by my simple experiment, it stands that the Earth at one point in its life was a large star.

The really big shocker is that the sun "adopted" it's planets, they all did not rotate and "collect" with the same dust/gas as the sun formed with! I'm pretty sure the sun gobbled up all the hydrogen it could get it's hands on, and then pulled random objects into orbit around it as it grew!

Plus! My theory can explain why Venus and Earth have opposite axis of rotation and are roughly the exact same size. They were a binary system that died long before the sun was formed. They stuck together and by the process of magnetic braking thrust both of their orbits into counter positions, similar to EPR, or "spooky action at a distance".

And by the way, gravity does not hold the planets in their orbits, magnetism does, because of their iron cores. How ironic is it that gravity is ALSO a square of the inverse of distance, as well as magnetism. Just some thoughts to think about! Gravity I think is just a specific type of magnetism. lol

More nails in the "standard model of planetary/star formation" coffin later!
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Try this on for size, my theory.

At the centre of the sun is a feeding black hole, when the sun stops feeding for a period it will go dark abd spit out new planets and then start feeding again :)
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I don't like it. Black Holes are another invention of scientists/
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Links please...

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Links? All this crap came out of my head!! It's driving me CRAZY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Links? All this crap came out of my head!! It's driving me CRAZY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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I don't even care about recognition anymore I just want people to THINK!! Only godlikeproductions is full of people who can do that!
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if gravity is magnetism - why do non-metalic objects fall at the same rate as do magnetic items?
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Have a great day whoever you are!
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very interesting OP.

I do like the Electric Universe Theory.
This could sit with your theory ??

[link to www.godlikeproductions.com]

Thread: All I can say is, many of you are close !!!!

& sickscents site:

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these are very interesting sites imo.
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bump

For later reading...

Thnx OP ill get into this soon XD
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these are very interesting sites imo.
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should have said posts & the last one is a website
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maybe gravity is a repulsive force, created by the mass of great space, that is pushing against everything

this would also explain why the universe is expanding in every direction
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If everything is held together by the magnets (iron cores attracting iron cores) then how does the magnetism hold people and objects on the face of the earth? We are not susceptible to magnetism, are we?
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maybe gravity is a repulsive force, created by the mass of great space, that is pushing against everything

this would also explain why the universe is expanding in every direction
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Bingo................

Who told you this thing which you speak?
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mere observation
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op - I do not believe your 45lb iron cube on top of another 45lb iron cube is a good anology - 45lbs will not fuse iron together but maybe millions or billions of pounds pressure would -



I do like your theory of planets being former stars - however your gravity theory needs more work - gravity as is would account for hydrogen being fused into more dense elements - I do not believe magnetism would account for this
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if gravity is magnetism - why do non-metalic objects fall at the same rate as do magnetic items?
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I'm gonna go out on a limb here, because this is not a part of my theory, and I quite possibly am wrong all over the place but I'll try to explain!

The entire "atom" model of reality is based on material reality. Our reality is NOT the reality of universal structure! Universal structure is rooted in just electric currents and the magnetic fields they induce!

Gravity is similar to magnetism, because gravity and magnetism affect the magnetic structure of all "elements". Only gravity is a byproduct of the fusion-ing of all "elements". Gravity tugs on the magnetic structure of all "elements". Magnetism gives all "elements" shape and appearance.

Light/microwaves/radio waves/infrared/gamma rays are NOT electromagnetism, light and the above mentioned are oscillating magnetic waves ONLY. The intensity at which they oscillate will determine their ability to penetrate other objects, and shake off their magnetic structure! Which is why radio waves are harmless, infrared waves feel hot, ultraviolet waves alter surface skin DNA, microwaves can cook right underneath the surface of your skin, and gamma rays can kill you!

The electric current that flows through the material gives the appearance of a "nuclear center", also known as "protons". Magnetism is a byproduct of electric current, or when the magnetic structure of iron or ferrous material is lined up.

"Bar" magnets can be made by taking ferrous material and sending a large pulse of electric current which lines up the magnetic structure of the individual "atoms".

When the fusion-process is happening the electric current has the capacity to oscillate at rapid rates that allow for different "elements" to form. "Hydrogen" is not an "atom" it is just the lowest stage that electric current can form a cohesive/stable magnetic shell.
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op - I do not believe your 45lb iron cube on top of another 45lb iron cube is a good anology - 45lbs will not fuse iron together but maybe millions or billions of pounds pressure would -



I do like your theory of planets being former stars - however your gravity theory needs more work - gravity as is would account for hydrogen being fused into more dense elements - I do not believe magnetism would account for this
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You got it! 45lbs cubes can not fuse together! It's takes large scale fusion-ing!

The planetary formation of the earth and other planets is as ridiculous as saying a 45lb iron cube can fuse together! Billions of pounds of pressure can only be achieved by fusion, not gravity! You understand my point! The only way Earth and the other planets and moons could have formed, would be by fusion!

I know the gravity theory needs more work. I think "gravity" is a by-product of the long term fusion-ing process though. Any thoughts on that? I just wrote a reply to the one previous... Hopefully you can see that one.
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plANETS ARE MACROATOMIC PARTICLES
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maybe gravity is a repulsive force, created by the mass of great space, that is pushing against everything

this would also explain why the universe is expanding in every direction
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Bingo................

Who told you this thing which you speak?
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The problem with mass is that nobody knows what causes it. I think mass/inertia/gravity are one in the same. The long term effects of "hydrogen" being fused together and "pulling" other "hydrogen" closer to fuse some more! All the magnetic shells of all atoms are tied together.
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I'm taking a break, my head hurts!
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if gravity is magnetism - why do non-metalic objects fall at the same rate as do magnetic items?
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I'm gonna go out on a limb here, because this is not a part of my theory, and I quite possibly am wrong all over the place but I'll try to explain!

The entire "atom" model of reality is based on material reality. Our reality is NOT the reality of universal structure! Universal structure is rooted in just electric currents and the magnetic fields they induce!

Gravity is similar to magnetism, because gravity and magnetism affect the magnetic structure of all "elements". Only gravity is a byproduct of the fusion-ing of all "elements". Gravity tugs on the magnetic structure of all "elements". Magnetism gives all "elements" shape and appearance.

Light/microwaves/radio waves/infrared/gamma rays are NOT electromagnetism, light and the above mentioned are oscillating magnetic waves ONLY. The intensity at which they oscillate will determine their ability to penetrate other objects, and shake off their magnetic structure! Which is why radio waves are harmless, infrared waves feel hot, ultraviolet waves alter surface skin DNA, microwaves can cook right underneath the surface of your skin, and gamma rays can kill you!

The electric current that flows through the material gives the appearance of a "nuclear center", also known as "protons". Magnetism is a byproduct of electric current, or when the magnetic structure of iron or ferrous material is lined up.

"Bar" magnets can be made by taking ferrous material and sending a large pulse of electric current which lines up the magnetic structure of the individual "atoms".

When the fusion-process is happening the electric current has the capacity to oscillate at rapid rates that allow for different "elements" to form. "Hydrogen" is not an "atom" it is just the lowest stage that electric current can form a cohesive/stable magnetic shell.
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cool - "an oscillating fusion-process" - sounds like much can be done with that!
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i can't think of gravity too much time either - feels like my head wants to explode





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