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Is The North American Craton moving again? There is evidence to suggest it has come to life. Details inside.

 
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The thing is, I don't think we'll have enough warning of imminent danger. I know I'm not used to looking for signs of eq's. Of all the places I've lived, I've never worried about them. When we lived on Oauhu, they told us, Aw, nothing's happened in thousands of years. Guess what...that's when the volcano erupted on the Big Island!

Gabi posted awhile back about storing water and I think if you can't do anything else, do that. You can live longer w/o food than you can water. All you can do is your best, and then hope for the best. And...learn all you can before it's an issue.
 Quoting: Texan Buckeye


Hang a very weak magnet on your refrigerator, like those magnetic business cards are perfect. If you ever see that it has fallen from the fridge it is a sign of electromagnetic discharge in that area and could possible lead to an earthquake within 2 to 5 hours.
 Quoting: El Quisqueyano


Also if you have a smartphone like android, you can download this program called Quake Oracle. It alerts you of tremors and it has an Magnetic Activity Detector. That when triggered intensely, so don't listen to the small magnetic activity, can be an precursor to and impending quake.

Here is the link to Quake Oracle;

[link to market.android.com (secure)]

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Hi El, sorry to go off topic, but there have been a few 4.7 4.9's in Japan today do you think they could be building up to a big earthquake again?
thanks
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Not at those magnitudes, They are good pressure release.
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thanks EL Q :)
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Your welcome.
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ElQ-please explain the difference between a 7 and 8 earthquake and what range would an 8 magnitude potentially have? Thanx
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I . Find your salt through the pepper, so to speak. Let your instincts kick in. Research. You'll know!
 Quoting: Mahala


I think it has to do with the fracking process. At least the rumbles in Texas. I have lived here all of my life and have watched this beautiful state be STRIPPED of it's natural resources. Beginning with the cattle trails in the 1880s (? bad with history dates, which I was not alive for but I have read about growing up with Texas History) causing the deserts in mid-Texas to the oil wells springing up everywhere. There is an oil well literally across the street from a park and a hospital. There are homes across the other street from the well. We've sucked this land dry and sent jolts through the bedrock with the fracking process. I've read info stating that there is no tie between earthquakes and drilling...I don't believe a damn thing in those reports. Rick Perry has sold Texas out and if anyone thinks he won't do the same to the U.S. is blind. Perry cleared the way for the Barnett Shale project, and I believe that with the HIGH heat temps for 4 months baking the clay and the removal of the natural gas pockets are causing these earthquakes. Perhaps it's dis balancing weight with the flooding in the U.S., tsunami's and earthquakes in other regions. Think of a game of Jenga where you are removing the bottom layers first...doesn't work.
 Quoting: MrsWilliams

ugh please do me a favor and go read a sixth grade geology book!
The Frac process can not in any size shape or fashion contain enough power to cause an earthquake! The Frac gun charges are equal to a few thousand .45 ACP rounds going off! Also our deepest fracs in west Texas gas plays occur above 10,000 feet!
Sometimes the ignorance drives me insane!!
thwak
 Quoting: XP...


I'm sorry XP but I have to say you are wrong on this one. USGS has admitted that Hydraulic Fracturing can trigger damaging earthquakes.

Here it is right from their site;

Q: Can you prevent large earthquakes by making lots of small ones, or by "lubricating" the fault with water or another material?

A: Seismologists have observed that for every magnitude 6 earthquake there are 10 of magnitude 5, 100 of magnitude 4, 1,000 of magnitude 3, and so forth as the events get smaller and smaller. This sounds like a lot of small earthquakes, but there are never enough small ones to eliminate the occasional large event. It would take 32 magnitude 5's, 1000 magnitude 4's, 32,000 magnitude 3's to equal the energy of one magnitude 6 event. So, even though we always record many more small events than large ones, there are never enough to eliminate the need for the occasional large earthquake.

As for "lubricating" faults with water or some other substance, injecting high pressure fluids deep into the ground is known to be able to trigger earthquakes to occur sooner than would have been the case without the injection. However this would be a dangerous pursuit in any populated area, as one might trigger a damaging earthquake.

Link here;

[link to earthquake.usgs.gov]
 Quoting: El Quisqueyano


Thanks El Q. I was about to go find the articles I have read recently about the lies of fracking. No way can you do as much to the earth as we have done sucking resources out over the years without doing some damage.
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On the first page, it was said that Laurentia is about to pop. Where is that please?
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ElQ-skip that question on earthquake magnitude. Wikipedea has a good read on difference and distance. Sorry for being lazy.
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ElQ-please explain the difference between a 7 and 8 earthquake and what range would an 8 magnitude potentially have? Thanx
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The USGS has lessons on that. Here is the link;

[link to earthquake.usgs.gov]
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I think it has to do with the fracking process. At least the rumbles in Texas. I have lived here all of my life and have watched this beautiful state be STRIPPED of it's natural resources. Beginning with the cattle trails in the 1880s (? bad with history dates, which I was not alive for but I have read about growing up with Texas History) causing the deserts in mid-Texas to the oil wells springing up everywhere. There is an oil well literally across the street from a park and a hospital. There are homes across the other street from the well. We've sucked this land dry and sent jolts through the bedrock with the fracking process. I've read info stating that there is no tie between earthquakes and drilling...I don't believe a damn thing in those reports. Rick Perry has sold Texas out and if anyone thinks he won't do the same to the U.S. is blind. Perry cleared the way for the Barnett Shale project, and I believe that with the HIGH heat temps for 4 months baking the clay and the removal of the natural gas pockets are causing these earthquakes. Perhaps it's dis balancing weight with the flooding in the U.S., tsunami's and earthquakes in other regions. Think of a game of Jenga where you are removing the bottom layers first...doesn't work.
 Quoting: MrsWilliams

ugh please do me a favor and go read a sixth grade geology book!
The Frac process can not in any size shape or fashion contain enough power to cause an earthquake! The Frac gun charges are equal to a few thousand .45 ACP rounds going off! Also our deepest fracs in west Texas gas plays occur above 10,000 feet!
Sometimes the ignorance drives me insane!!
thwak
 Quoting: XP...


I'm sorry XP but I have to say you are wrong on this one. USGS has admitted that Hydraulic Fracturing can trigger damaging earthquakes.

Here it is right from their site;

Q: Can you prevent large earthquakes by making lots of small ones, or by "lubricating" the fault with water or another material?

A: Seismologists have observed that for every magnitude 6 earthquake there are 10 of magnitude 5, 100 of magnitude 4, 1,000 of magnitude 3, and so forth as the events get smaller and smaller. This sounds like a lot of small earthquakes, but there are never enough small ones to eliminate the occasional large event. It would take 32 magnitude 5's, 1000 magnitude 4's, 32,000 magnitude 3's to equal the energy of one magnitude 6 event. So, even though we always record many more small events than large ones, there are never enough to eliminate the need for the occasional large earthquake.

As for "lubricating" faults with water or some other substance, injecting high pressure fluids deep into the ground is known to be able to trigger earthquakes to occur sooner than would have been the case without the injection. However this would be a dangerous pursuit in any populated area, as one might trigger a damaging earthquake.

Link here;

[link to earthquake.usgs.gov]
 Quoting: El Quisqueyano


Thanks El Q. I was about to go find the articles I have read recently about the lies of fracking. No way can you do as much to the earth as we have done sucking resources out over the years without doing some damage.
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Agree.
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On the first page, it was said that Laurentia is about to pop. Where is that please?
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North American Craton;

[link to en.wikipedia.org]
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ElQ-skip that question on earthquake magnitude. Wikipedea has a good read on difference and distance. Sorry for being lazy.
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No biggie.

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So what are your thoughts EL?
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So what are your thoughts EL?
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North American Craton is possibly starting to move at a faster pace and we will see an increase in quakes for the bordering regions. It will be progressively over a far extended stretch time frame, But we should start seeing some of it's effect soon. IMHO.
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informed1, I was going to be quiet today and just read, but looking at the photos of the Cap again, I had a thought. It may be really dumb and if it is I'll just stick to reading. I'm just a mom that played w/clay and baked w/all kinds of dough. When the clay was taller and had a sharp drop, like the Cap, it would always break. I know this is really simplistic, but, I wonder...is it possible? I'm just a little SW of you, BTW.
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That's entirely possible. Also, we had a long stretch of hot temperatures followed by a week long period of relatively cool temps. And now the past 2 days the temp has soared upwards again. Maybe these quakes are just a result of the ground expanding and contracting from the extreme temperature swings.
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ugh please do me a favor and go read a sixth grade geology book!
The Frac process can not in any size shape or fashion contain enough power to cause an earthquake! The Frac gun charges are equal to a few thousand .45 ACP rounds going off! Also our deepest fracs in west Texas gas plays occur above 10,000 feet!
Sometimes the ignorance drives me insane!!
thwak
 Quoting: XP...


I'm sorry XP but I have to say you are wrong on this one. USGS has admitted that Hydraulic Fracturing can trigger damaging earthquakes.

Here it is right from their site;

Q: Can you prevent large earthquakes by making lots of small ones, or by "lubricating" the fault with water or another material?

A: Seismologists have observed that for every magnitude 6 earthquake there are 10 of magnitude 5, 100 of magnitude 4, 1,000 of magnitude 3, and so forth as the events get smaller and smaller. This sounds like a lot of small earthquakes, but there are never enough small ones to eliminate the occasional large event. It would take 32 magnitude 5's, 1000 magnitude 4's, 32,000 magnitude 3's to equal the energy of one magnitude 6 event. So, even though we always record many more small events than large ones, there are never enough to eliminate the need for the occasional large earthquake.

As for "lubricating" faults with water or some other substance, injecting high pressure fluids deep into the ground is known to be able to trigger earthquakes to occur sooner than would have been the case without the injection. However this would be a dangerous pursuit in any populated area, as one might trigger a damaging earthquake.

Link here;

[link to earthquake.usgs.gov]
 Quoting: El Quisqueyano


Thanks El Q. I was about to go find the articles I have read recently about the lies of fracking. No way can you do as much to the earth as we have done sucking resources out over the years without doing some damage.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1070355


Agree.
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Thanks for the backup...I also want to point out how dry it has been in the Texas region. We're under severe drought and with the onslaught of wildfires we are literally BAKING in heat. There are 4ft+ deep cracks forming in suburban backyards (check ANY news channel website across Texas) and the ground is crumbling beneath buildings. I don't know if this has to do with the eq's...any input?
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I agree...in fact I was the first to point this out on a thread I made on 8.30.2011

Dutchsinse picked it up and made a vid about it on 9.9.2011

I had a discussion in GLP Voice Chat mid day yesterday to try to raise awareness.

This is definitely something strange that needs to be monitored!

Thread: **Seismic/Earthquake Activity Across the U.S. 8/30/2011**
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I have a strange desire to put croutons in my salad
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Oops! Forgot to say, I'll ask daughter about places to look for the maps when she gets off work. Who needs a meteorologist when you have a geographer in the family!?!
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Can I get her number? I'm here in Texas and would like to ask her a few questions about subduction zones and relieving built up stress through slippage.
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Bwaaahaaaahaaaa! You fucking monkeys, I'm going to get you now! All your bases are mine!

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Here is a link to the Oklahoma earthquake map. Funny how a whole lot of these NEVER show up on USGS.

If you take these into consideration, it really makes for a strange, long line.

[link to www.okgeosurvey1.gov]

I wonder if any other states have a geological survey with maps that we can access.

Might be an interesting picture - if we actually got to see ALL of the earthquakes - not just what USGS wants us to see
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Thread: MAG 2.7 VIRGINIA

Look at this earthquake, the USGS ended up wiping it from the system...so I wonder how many are not posted or taken down after a few hours.
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I remember when that one hit. They scrubbed it completely?
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YES! I had posted the full information about it, thankfully, here is the original link as well -

[link to earthquake.usgs.gov]

It was taken off two hours or so after it was posted, and NEVER returned. That was pretty disturbing to me.
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OK so WTF is a "Craton"?
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El Q in my personal opinion the ground is going to fissure. probably wont leave holes though, they will fill with water ... Looks like its heading west so perhaps a new body of water for W virginia
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Could this new movement be cause of the release in pressure from the oil Spill in the GOM? Could that have triggered it and or allow it to move much faster? I know what you mean Could be the failed rift is upon us for that region?

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

Points to what you say, West Virginia and vicinity states becoming a body of water.

This is also interesting, Taken in 2009;

[link to en.wikipedia.org]
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that was the main intention behind the gulf debauchery I believe, as it clearly had nothing to do with securing viable oil resources

they vented an asphalt volcano only after verifying same with the myriad technologies at their disposal

systematically plucking at the ends of loose threads at every opportunity

to assist them in the ritualistic unraveling of No. America
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OK so WTF is a "Craton"?
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It's a lot of croutons.
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Nemesis IS closing the gap. Earth already under it's electromagnetic effects, and MUCH MORE to come. As it closes the distance, the gravitational effect will go up by the SQUARE, AS .. G = Mass1 X mass2 divided by the DISTANCE SUARED ?
So, ever time it halves the distance to Earth, the effects WILL QUADRUPLE !

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It's pinned!

Folks need to read this shit! El Q's work has been solid and done for the awareness of folks!

El Q, do you write into George Ure? If not, perhaps you could consider it? I know many folks that read his site each day would be interested to read your work.

My dad and myself both firmly believe that the sun puts out all sorts of geo-effective energy.

With the NAC activating, the more that see this and are made aware...the better.

ETA: Folks who live within any potentially affected areas may want to note where poorly constructed or vulnerable nuclear power plants are in relation to them...and perhaps start charting an escape route.

I myself live in one of the worst areas. I'm in the NW corner of Illinois....and both the Cordova nuclear power plant and Byron could experience some difficulties if the New Madrid were to experience a hard earthquake....even as far north as we are from the actual New Madrid fault.
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Do you have a link to George Ure's site?
 Quoting: El Quisqueyano


Sorry, El Q...must have missed this earlier. Had to go lay down for a bit...out of no place earlier this afternoon I felt very drained. It was really weird.

Could have sworn I was out for 2 hours...but when I woke up I started rushing around...

Felt like I lost 2 hours of time. It was really weird.

At any rate George's site is urbansurvival.com

It'll take you to his main page. The bold blue print is the link to his daily column. At the bottom of today's column is his email address.

I think it would kick ass if you wrote him with the background on what you do...and any further pertinent info you have.

I've talked to him several times over the phone when weird shit was going on up in my area...he is a pretty open minded dude.
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I'm sorry XP but I have to say you are wrong on this one. USGS has admitted that Hydraulic Fracturing can trigger damaging earthquakes.

Here it is right from their site;

Q: Can you prevent large earthquakes by making lots of small ones, or by "lubricating" the fault with water or another material?

A: Seismologists have observed that for every magnitude 6 earthquake there are 10 of magnitude 5, 100 of magnitude 4, 1,000 of magnitude 3, and so forth as the events get smaller and smaller. This sounds like a lot of small earthquakes, but there are never enough small ones to eliminate the occasional large event. It would take 32 magnitude 5's, 1000 magnitude 4's, 32,000 magnitude 3's to equal the energy of one magnitude 6 event. So, even though we always record many more small events than large ones, there are never enough to eliminate the need for the occasional large earthquake.

As for "lubricating" faults with water or some other substance, injecting high pressure fluids deep into the ground is known to be able to trigger earthquakes to occur sooner than would have been the case without the injection. However this would be a dangerous pursuit in any populated area, as one might trigger a damaging earthquake.

Link here;

[link to earthquake.usgs.gov]
 Quoting: El Quisqueyano


Thanks El Q. I was about to go find the articles I have read recently about the lies of fracking. No way can you do as much to the earth as we have done sucking resources out over the years without doing some damage.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1070355


Agree.
 Quoting: El Quisqueyano


Thanks for the backup...I also want to point out how dry it has been in the Texas region. We're under severe drought and with the onslaught of wildfires we are literally BAKING in heat. There are 4ft+ deep cracks forming in suburban backyards (check ANY news channel website across Texas) and the ground is crumbling beneath buildings. I don't know if this has to do with the eq's...any input?
 Quoting: MrsWilliams


What is the driest part of Texas right now? Mid, East, North, South or west. Or is it the whole state? This is important.
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I agree...in fact I was the first to point this out on a thread I made on 8.30.2011

Dutchsinse picked it up and made a vid about it on 9.9.2011

I had a discussion in GLP Voice Chat mid day yesterday to try to raise awareness.

This is definitely something strange that needs to be monitored!

Thread: **Seismic/Earthquake Activity Across the U.S. 8/30/2011**
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There is no doubt in my mind that something is going one. Now whether it's natural or man made is what I want to know.
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El Q in my personal opinion the ground is going to fissure. probably wont leave holes though, they will fill with water ... Looks like its heading west so perhaps a new body of water for W virginia
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1546451


Could this new movement be cause of the release in pressure from the oil Spill in the GOM? Could that have triggered it and or allow it to move much faster? I know what you mean Could be the failed rift is upon us for that region?

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

Points to what you say, West Virginia and vicinity states becoming a body of water.

This is also interesting, Taken in 2009;

[link to en.wikipedia.org]
 Quoting: El Quisqueyano




that was the main intention behind the gulf debauchery I believe, as it clearly had nothing to do with securing viable oil resources

they vented an asphalt volcano only after verifying same with the myriad technologies at their disposal

systematically plucking at the ends of loose threads at every opportunity

to assist them in the ritualistic unraveling of No. America
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Sacrifice to the Volcano God on a massive scale?
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I have a strange desire to put croutons in my salad
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OK so WTF is a "Craton"?
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It's a lot of croutons.
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