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Sumarian tablets VS. The Holy Bible

 
KAITIAKI

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follow the timeline !

Who was first ?

Easy.
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Kolbrin is a far superior book than the bible if you want new religion.
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Kinda of late on here but I just wanted to say. Those 6,000 years are from when the Earth was re-populated. Not when the Earth itself was formed. The Earth was created long before humans were created in flesh bodies. The Earth is divided by 3 Earth Ages, the second was where Genesis began. The First was the overthrow by Satan. The Third is the 1000 year reign and beyond.

When God was talking to Job. Job thought he knew so much. He said were where you in the First Earth Age when he created the Behemoth. Basically describing a dinosaur. Obviously proving a point to him that he wasn't around at the time.

If you look at the original Hebrew, it said he created the Heavens and the Earth. Period. This period is important in the way the scripts were written. It is a long period of time that happened between then, and later.

The Bible actually teaches a spherical shape for the earth. In Isaiah 40:22 God is said to sit above “the circle of the earth” (the Hebrew word for circle can also mean a sphere). Also, in Luke 17:34–36 Christ's Second Coming is portrayed as occurring while some are asleep at night and others are working at daytime activities — which means a rotating earth with day and night at the same time.

The 4 corners of the Earth... North South East and West. We have these directions... yet our Earth is not flat? You are taking the rest too literal. You need to know when it means Earth, as ground, or dirt, the planet, or world as in humanity. This is why you can't take the words too literal sometimes. That and some versions have improper translations. Which is why you always need to refer to the original Hebrew or Greek in which the word was written in.

Also pillars refers to.

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In the true word, there are no inconsistency. Just man's misunderstanding of them.
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Kinda of late on here but I just wanted to say. Those 6,000 years are from when the Earth was re-populated. Not when the Earth itself was formed. The Earth was created long before humans were created in flesh bodies. The Earth is divided by 3 Earth Ages, the second was where Genesis began. The First was the overthrow by Satan. The Third is the 1000 year reign and beyond.

When God was talking to Job. Job thought he knew so much. He said were where you in the First Earth Age when he created the Behemoth. Basically describing a dinosaur. Obviously proving a point to him that he wasn't around at the time.

If you look at the original Hebrew, it said he created the Heavens and the Earth. Period. This period is important in the way the scripts were written. It is a long period of time that happened between then, and later.

The Bible actually teaches a spherical shape for the earth. In Isaiah 40:22 God is said to sit above “the circle of the earth” (the Hebrew word for circle can also mean a sphere). Also, in Luke 17:34–36 Christ's Second Coming is portrayed as occurring while some are asleep at night and others are working at daytime activities — which means a rotating earth with day and night at the same time.

The 4 corners of the Earth... North South East and West. We have these directions... yet our Earth is not flat? You are taking the rest too literal. You need to know when it means Earth, as ground, or dirt, the planet, or world as in humanity. This is why you can't take the words too literal sometimes. That and some versions have improper translations. Which is why you always need to refer to the original Hebrew or Greek in which the word was written in.

Also pillars refers to.

[link to www.geocentricity.com]

In the true word, there are no inconsistency. Just man's misunderstanding of them.
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God to Job "behold behemoth!" As in look at the dinosaur Job, it is large and big, yet I God can easily slay it.

Earth was created just 6000 years ago. Not only does Genesis 1:1-5 say this in Hebrew and correctly translated English as found in the KJV and earlier English versions, but the actual science supports this dating.
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Let's say your belief is right there (which it is not yeahsure ) the Bible goes on to say the Messiah would come AND gives the exact year he would arrive.(Daniel 9:24-26), Also from the OT book of Daniel are the empires that would rule the earth from the time of Babylon until Rome, written 600 years before Rome ever existed. The Roman Church is then found in Revelation before it ever existed.

The fact is nothing confirms the Sumer tablets. They are a fictional pagan account of the true biblical record compiled by Moses from tablets or some record handed down from the very time of Adam.(Wiseman Theory) Most who quote this Sumer tablet nonsense have no original sources and jumble up translations with Sitchen's fringe interpretation. They have no original source documents for the proper translation and do not even know what it says.

[link to creation.com]

The same critics use to also claim Babylon never existed, the only record of the empire was in the Bible. Then it was unearthed in Iraq.









Moses possibly edited Genesis from ten firsthand witnesses

TOLEDOTH THEORY

In recent years a much better insight into the origin of Genesis has emerged. As ancient Near Eastern libraries have been unearthed and their contents deciphered, many insights into biblical times have been gained. In particular, tablets from before the time of Moses in the area of Mesopotamia (where Abraham hailed from) were noted to frequently contain a colophon – a formula of sorts, at the close of the tablet. This is similar to modern customs of ending a letter with a formula like "Sincerely yours,(Name)".

Often these tablets were family records or king-lists giving the ancestry of a person. The Hebrew term for generations is toledoth. These tablets would contain a colophon describing who had written the tablet or whose history it recorded. Scholars recognized that these colophons were similar in structure to toledoth phrases in Genesis:

1) "These are the generations of the heavens and of the earth when they were created." (Genesis 2:4)

2) "This is the book of the generations of Adam." (Genesis 5:1)

3) "These are the generations of Noah." (Genesis 6:9)

4) "Now these are the generations of the sons of Noah, Shem, Ham, and Japheth." (Genesis 10:1)

5) "These are the generations of Shem." (Genesis 11:10)

6) "Now these are the generations of Terah." (Genesis 11:27)

7) "And these are the generations of Isaac, Abraham's son." (Genesis 25:19)

8) "This is the account of Abraham's son Ishmael." (Genesis 25:12)

9) "This is the account of Esau (that is, Edom)." (Genesis 36:1)

10) "These are the generations of Jacob." (Genesis 37:2)

The implication of these colophons in Genesis is that they separate Genesis into distinct source documents each dating from the period of the person named in them. These source documents were handed down from father to son until the time of Moses, when they were edited together to form the book of Genesis under divine inspiration. In almost every case the logical author for each document would be the person named in the colophon itself. The statements immediately following each colophon would be the beginning of the next tablet; for example, Genesis 2:4 reads "When the LORD God made the earth and the heavens…" beginning Adam’s story.

[link to www.rae.org]
[link to www.trueorigin.org]
[link to www.dtl.org]
[link to www.specialtyinterests.net]
[link to en.wikipedia.org]

The biblical religion has remained unchanged for thousands of years, while all pagan religions have change with the rise and fall of their empires and culture.

Claim:
The Sumer tablets are the oldest text.

Reply:
Understand how TEXT dating is done: the physical dating of an archaeological relic does not date the original TEXT, which is dated by events and confirmed with the sciences.

"The oldest known tablets written in stone," means little, as original biblical texts were copied to parchment repeatedly and the originals destroyed as they were used to the point of being worn out and useless. But by this time there were thousands of copies so originals were unimportant.

Older manuscript/tablet has no validity over the majority text in agreement: Majority coming from different parts of the world, all in agreement. This is what is found with the Textus Receptus Greek New Testament and Hebrew Masoretic Old Testament, King James Version manuscripts. Oldest known does not mean more credible or reliable in textual criticism, just means the originals were destroyed, lost or possibly being kept from us.

But that's not all, the pagan Sumer tablets do not tell of real events, while the books of the Bible are confirmed repeatedly with HISTORY and SCIENCE.

The Bible has stories far older than the flood, compiled by Moses including many prophecies precluding anything but divinely inspired Word of GOD!
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Stick to Jesus' words in the Gospel.
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I didn't know that Jesus authored the NT.

Oh wait... He didn't.
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"The Sumarian tablet's and The Bible share some astonishing similarities."

Because bible is stolen pagan history from all over the world.

Stolen and twisted into anti-living religion that creates spiritual zombies.
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"Stick to Jesus' words in the Gospel."


That would require me to completely change who I am, And drop to an IQ level of less then 100..I'm just not willing to do that.
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there is no fool bigger than the one who thinks he knows everything.
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"Did he NOT say that he would have "SHOVEL-READY JOBS" for all Americans? Did he not promise that he would pay people's mortgage, put gas in their car, and put food on their tables? Doesn't that spell out a CHANGE that Americans DON'T want, of a Socialist form of government wherein all would be provided for you--as long as you commit yourself to slave labor (shovel-ready jobs)?"

I don't wanna even think abot what these shovel ready jobs are- surely isn't infastructure, that's fallen all to he'll here- we can't even have normal rain withot massive flooding anymore- Atlanta water has risen over a 100$ a bill because we need a sewer system-

the way things R going I wonder if these shovel ready jobs aren't grave diggin jobs- and I hate that I am for real when I say that-

As far as the Zionist go- my government is an extension of Israel, dothis kinda makes us Zionist too- seems like america is israels muscle man and these christians on this thread seem unfazed by death of Muslims- the news shows pictured of dead kids after demonizing these poor people, and instead of showing. Empathy, compasion, and understandig, for their suffering and loss most of these folks are thinking " they desered it"


WTF(? Were invading/occupying their home- were the aggressor-

no way in he'll I believe Adam and eve were the first humans, and given the names we had back then I gotta wonder if it wasn't even different names because Adam and eve are VERY American.. Like Sally and Steve.

The bible has beenthe last truth I've tried to study- and I admit allthough I've had doubts about Adam and eve for ever I just wasn't readyto even question my religion..

I saw a movie on YouTube called " the quickening" it's about the myans and hopis- this is actually where my eyes opened- because this too is also the same as the christain prophesy-

the hopi's identified the poles by color- red and blue- the say they red star kachina and blue star kachina are " the gaurdians of the north and south poles" - this got my mind going about the king of the north and south that in revalation/ endtimes will come wreck havock on earth-

Well after one Internet search and several pages of reading, my suspisions were right-

Wormwood and nibiru are the same just like the star of Bethlehem and nibiru are the same- one thing I haver found is that anythig will fall from the sky and bitter the waters in any other prophesy- so I question this part of revAlation-

But... It's my STRONG belief that these coming earth changes will eventually pull us back together like we were before pangia..

Humanity has a connection to mother earth, even tho MOST of us don't undertand how deep this connection is because we nolonger farm or use our land for survival, but the earth and humanity are inseperatable- our journeys will always be one.. Mother earth is every bit as organic as we are, so before we destroy her, she will balance this problem out..


The ancient Sumerian texts tell gilgamesh to smash his house, and break his things, and to save his soul over the physical world.. This is what needs to happen again..

Infact the hopis and myans say these don't have to be bad times if we can let go of the physical world..

The bible says the meek shall inherit the earth

and the Muslims have been promised peAce and ascention..

And I believe this will happen.. After the apocalypse or shall I say epoch eclipse- epoch represeting a new age or era which is prophesiesed to happen after the suns eclipse with nibiru, which my research is also leading me to believe may be the suns bianary star companion which orbits Orion and the sun ever 3,500 years.. This time cram also meshes with when the star of Bethlehem was last spotted in our skys, and allthough I've found articles that suggest this, my research also draws these same conclusions-

humanitys connection to mother earth and the plates movig backtogether will help heal the hearts of mankind- I also believe this 5th element aether which ALL ancient cultures recognized as the highest element will be brought back to earth for 1000 years-

The 7 seals may be the 7 shakras that are prophesized to be opened in endtimes- the colors of the caped horsemen also represent the colors of the shakras-

the bible is their to place fear in peoples hearts, and what it can't do the news does- I don't watch I t anymore- I can't- I can't watch the gore they show us to desinsetize us because it began hurting my heart- like the clips were family, not people far away...


Waking up has been the bigger journey of my life, I lost friends, and seems like even some family- over truth... You can't even talk about things these days without making the sleep walking mad-

While my reactions to truth has always been anger from those not awake, I find more heart filled with more love and peace for my fellow humans daily..and this growth has been amazing, 6 years ago I was self centered, and also asleep and the world seemed more chaotic to me then, so did my emotions ( I used to think I was the cener of the earth) and maybe even who it revolved around..and I've been humbled..

Humbled in ways I couldn't concieve 6 years ago when patriotic meant supporting hate and wArs..

I don't know if it's been a fair tradeoff, because I want my mom to awaken out of love and fear for her wellbeing- and here at these endtimes we don't even talk anymore- but I've begun to feel sorry for her, and not me..

The kinda change the world needs has to be catastrophic to change us in ways to make it better not worse, it will be through these times we can connect back to spiritualty and wholesome living..

That movie the quickening really showed me another way to view these earth changes - so they don't have to be bad times..


Anyone that needs the spiritual guidence and a total change of perception should check that out-

but, through it all, and allthe worry, for everyone inthe world, not just loved ones I finally found peace, and myself...


Almost as if this was the best thing that could of happened to me..

I still believe in GOd, and a creator, and there is NO WAY our creator isn't anything bt loving.. We need look no further than our own children to see this..

I reject the bibles fear of judgement, I reject the judgement of bible thumpers.. And know deep down in my soul that this fear is anti- love, anti Christ, and anti life...

Hell- we are all in this together, and no religion, age, race, or politcal affiliation will change this- I do believe god is love, and this is echoed thoughout the bible MANY times... So the less love and more hate for fellow brothers and sisters works against god-


Their is this saying and belief in the west, that goes take care of urself first, and not only is this not right, it's what's wrong with humanity..

Humanity has been placed on this earth for love, care, and selflessness to one another, not for ones own self- and the longer one looks out for themselve first, the longer they are working against the grain-
this theory of self first is selfish- and will only leave u empty and yearnig for the connection and love only another soul beside youself can bring u..


Maybe this is " hope and change" !? Maybe not... But I believe it- lol

I write this on my iPhone again w auto correct that has a mind of it's own :( please excuse typos
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Whoever you are, you're a wonderful human being. That was one of the most heart-felt posts I've read in a long time, with great words of wisdom.
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Show me pictures from the bible... The bible is a sham !! Stolen story !!
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Show me pictures from the bible... The bible is a sham !! Stolen story !!
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Let me point out ALL religions..Rather it's jupiter, pluto, or a comet that ia the life source, if several religions form around it, IT IS JUST LIKE HAVING THE SAME RELIGION, is the life source,.

The Sun, for all its wonders, and raising everyday like a savior, the last time i heard f a religion forming around something other than a sun, was when the ancients lived here, remimber back then WE ALL PLAYED MAGI, ASTRONOMY, AND NUMEROLOGY..

In fact the MAGIC was the religion, and some groups worshiped the moon, and stars..But, magi is always fun in space, it ONLY works because of the energies in outer-space, it's sad WE USED TO ALL KNOW THESE ARTS, and when we did the world was a magic place..


When EVERYONE played, no one can be fooled, esencially their can be no black magic with 2 people using the art, even when their energy source is different..


Looks like the elites to the magi AWAY from us, and now we're victims to something most of us cant understand enough to break the cycle, or realize it's being done..

But lack magic is possible when only one player uses the art, just having this knowledge will secure for ALL darkness..

So when the church tried to outlaw magi for the people because 'god said it's evil'' - The church was then free to use dark magic on us, that we no only couldn't fight, but mat nit be aware it's magic..


I HAVE REASON THE REASON, THEyodabumphf MOTHER OF GOD WAS A VIRGIN..i

In some areas, the calendar originally began in the constellation of Virgo, and the sun would therefore be "born of a Virgin."
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the son was born in Virgo..
Aiyanna (OP)

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"Stick to Jesus' words in the Gospel."


That would require me to completely change who I am, And drop to an IQ level of less then 100..I'm just not willing to do that.
 Quoting: Aiyanna


there is no fool bigger than the one who thinks he knows everything.
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I never claimed to know everything. A reference to my intellectual level does not say that I claim to hold all the answers. But sticking to ONE book advising men to cut off the tips of their penis because an entity floating in the clouds said so..that my friend is a new definition
of caveman IQ. Not to mention, someone pointing out that my reference to my above 100 IQ means I know EVERYTHING holds an abundance amount of evidence of whom the fool might truly be.
I am a TRUTH-SEEKER..
I am NOT anti-religion. I AM pro-reality.
Humankind has not woven the web of life.
We are but one thread within it.
Whatever we do to the web, we do to ourselves.
All things are bound together.
All things connect.

Chief Seattle, 1854

When all the trees have been cut down,
when all the animals have been hunted,
when all the waters are polluted,
when all the air is unsafe to breathe,
only then will you discover you cannot eat money.

Cree Prophecy

"Our land is everything to us... I will tell you one of the things we remember on our land. We remember that our grandfathers paid for it - with their lives." - John Wooden Leg, Cheyenne

You must teach your children that the ground beneath their feet is the ashes of your grandfathers.
So that they will respect the land, tell your children that the earth is rich with the lives of our kin.
Teach your children what we have taught our children, that the earth is our mother.
Whatever befalls the earth befalls the sons of the earth.
If men spit upon the ground, they spit upon themselves. ~Iroquois~
Aiyanna (OP)

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Stick to Jesus' words in the Gospel.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 721399


I didn't know that Jesus authored the NT.

Oh wait... He didn't.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1505922


bump
Humankind has not woven the web of life.
We are but one thread within it.
Whatever we do to the web, we do to ourselves.
All things are bound together.
All things connect.

Chief Seattle, 1854

When all the trees have been cut down,
when all the animals have been hunted,
when all the waters are polluted,
when all the air is unsafe to breathe,
only then will you discover you cannot eat money.

Cree Prophecy

"Our land is everything to us... I will tell you one of the things we remember on our land. We remember that our grandfathers paid for it - with their lives." - John Wooden Leg, Cheyenne

You must teach your children that the ground beneath their feet is the ashes of your grandfathers.
So that they will respect the land, tell your children that the earth is rich with the lives of our kin.
Teach your children what we have taught our children, that the earth is our mother.
Whatever befalls the earth befalls the sons of the earth.
If men spit upon the ground, they spit upon themselves. ~Iroquois~
Aiyanna (OP)

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Most Sumerian tablets are being withheld.
Therefore only those tablets fitting in the Satanic agenda were published.

The Sumerian tablets ultimately say that humans were created as slaves for the "gods", which is, of course, utter BS!
That's what the fallen angels wanted the humans to think back then (and even today).

There are no "gods". There is ONE God. All other creatures are his angels and former angels, i.e. fallen angels (still God's of course, but demons now, because of their rebellion).
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1449387


So what are you saying? One god? So God was a schizophrenic
in genesis?

26 Then God said, “Let us make mankind in our image, in our likeness, so that they may rule over the fish in the sea and the birds in the sky, over the livestock and all the wild animals,[a] and over all the creatures that move along the ground.”
Humankind has not woven the web of life.
We are but one thread within it.
Whatever we do to the web, we do to ourselves.
All things are bound together.
All things connect.

Chief Seattle, 1854

When all the trees have been cut down,
when all the animals have been hunted,
when all the waters are polluted,
when all the air is unsafe to breathe,
only then will you discover you cannot eat money.

Cree Prophecy

"Our land is everything to us... I will tell you one of the things we remember on our land. We remember that our grandfathers paid for it - with their lives." - John Wooden Leg, Cheyenne

You must teach your children that the ground beneath their feet is the ashes of your grandfathers.
So that they will respect the land, tell your children that the earth is rich with the lives of our kin.
Teach your children what we have taught our children, that the earth is our mother.
Whatever befalls the earth befalls the sons of the earth.
If men spit upon the ground, they spit upon themselves. ~Iroquois~
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Most Sumerian tablets are being withheld.
Therefore only those tablets fitting in the Satanic agenda were published.

The Sumerian tablets ultimately say that humans were created as slaves for the "gods", which is, of course, utter BS!
That's what the fallen angels wanted the humans to think back then (and even today).

There are no "gods". There is ONE God. All other creatures are his angels and former angels, i.e. fallen angels (still God's of course, but demons now, because of their rebellion).
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1449387


bumpbumpbump


hf
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HUSTLEMAN TRIES HIS BEST TO TWIST THE TRUTH NO MATTER WHAT. HE KNOWS HE WILL GET AWAY WITH THE FAKE 2012 NEW AGE ASCENSION CRAP. WHEN HUSTLEMAN PRETENDS TO COME DOWN FROM THE HEAVENS HE WILL BE ON EARTH THE WHOLE TIME. AS LONG AS HIS CONTROL ON THIS WORLD EXISTS AS IT IS TODAY, HE WILL ALWAYS DECEIVE. GLP EXISTS FOR THIS SOLE PURPOSE. HUSTLEMAN LOVES TO SPAM FALSE INFO AND MAKE THE NAIVE FEEL LIKE THEY ARE SUPERIOR. WHEN THE FAKE 2012 ASCENSION ARRIVES FOR A SHORT TIME AND EVERYONE BOWS DOWN TO HUSTLEMAN, THAT WILL MARK THE BEGGING OF THE END OF THE LIES SPEWED IN THIS THREAD BY THE OP.
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NO one on this thread believe's " HE WILL GET AWAY WITH THE FAKE 2012 NEW AGE ASCENSION CRAP. WHEN HUSTLEMAN PRETENDS TO COME DOWN FROM THE HEAVENS HE WILL BE ON EARTH THE WHOLE TIME" Or whatever you are spitting all over the keyboard. This thread is about the simalarities in the bible scriptures and sumarian aka; "mythologies".

We have GOOD/NORMAL people whom are men and women of god discussing their faith in Gods words in the bible. then we have GOOD/NORMAL whom are disputing the bible not only being the true word of god, but might be missing something or leaving out A WHOLE LOTTA INFO..Aka "what went down in sumar". No one -ME MAINLY- could care a less about hustlemans attempt to rule the world or control this website's mass. So thank you for your weird input, but its off subject and not needed...
Humankind has not woven the web of life.
We are but one thread within it.
Whatever we do to the web, we do to ourselves.
All things are bound together.
All things connect.

Chief Seattle, 1854

When all the trees have been cut down,
when all the animals have been hunted,
when all the waters are polluted,
when all the air is unsafe to breathe,
only then will you discover you cannot eat money.

Cree Prophecy

"Our land is everything to us... I will tell you one of the things we remember on our land. We remember that our grandfathers paid for it - with their lives." - John Wooden Leg, Cheyenne

You must teach your children that the ground beneath their feet is the ashes of your grandfathers.
So that they will respect the land, tell your children that the earth is rich with the lives of our kin.
Teach your children what we have taught our children, that the earth is our mother.
Whatever befalls the earth befalls the sons of the earth.
If men spit upon the ground, they spit upon themselves. ~Iroquois~
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Most Sumerian tablets are being withheld.
Therefore only those tablets fitting in the Satanic agenda were published.

The Sumerian tablets ultimately say that humans were created as slaves for the "gods", which is, of course, utter BS!
That's what the fallen angels wanted the humans to think back then (and even today).

There are no "gods". There is ONE God. All other creatures are his angels and former angels, i.e. fallen angels (still God's of course, but demons now, because of their rebellion).
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1449387


bumpbumpbump


hf
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1552733


bump I bump for the statement : "Most Sumerian tablets are being withheld."...Couldn't agree more. Plus in my opinion whats possibily missing out of the bible? Look at the world we live in..pedofiles as priest..corrupt religions and structures within religions and churches, can't trust the government, Can't trust DHS, Can't trust our teachers and school officials to not touch our children in repulsive ways, Can't trust our world leader's, Can't trust half the countries surrounding whatever country you happen to be in, Can't trust our bank system, Can't trust our foreign policys, Can't trust nasa- our eyes in the skies, Can't trust the media, Can't trust the FDA. We are being lied to, posioned, and kept in the dark about everything you can possibly imagine. But yet I am to believe the bible (and the original) is TELLING ME THE TRUTH? Thats the ONE thing in a nation-wide history of a screwed up world that is COMPLETLEY UNTOUCHED BY DECITEFUL HANDS OR INTENTIONS? And not to add ONE OF THE MAIN REASON FOR ALL THE BLOODSHED AND WAR? HA i laugh at sheep
Humankind has not woven the web of life.
We are but one thread within it.
Whatever we do to the web, we do to ourselves.
All things are bound together.
All things connect.

Chief Seattle, 1854

When all the trees have been cut down,
when all the animals have been hunted,
when all the waters are polluted,
when all the air is unsafe to breathe,
only then will you discover you cannot eat money.

Cree Prophecy

"Our land is everything to us... I will tell you one of the things we remember on our land. We remember that our grandfathers paid for it - with their lives." - John Wooden Leg, Cheyenne

You must teach your children that the ground beneath their feet is the ashes of your grandfathers.
So that they will respect the land, tell your children that the earth is rich with the lives of our kin.
Teach your children what we have taught our children, that the earth is our mother.
Whatever befalls the earth befalls the sons of the earth.
If men spit upon the ground, they spit upon themselves. ~Iroquois~
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Most Sumerian tablets are being withheld.
Therefore only those tablets fitting in the Satanic agenda were published.

The Sumerian tablets ultimately say that humans were created as slaves for the "gods", which is, of course, utter BS!
That's what the fallen angels wanted the humans to think back then (and even today).

There are no "gods". There is ONE God. All other creatures are his angels and former angels, i.e. fallen angels (still God's of course, but demons now, because of their rebellion).
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1449387


i was there when we uncovered them and i read and translated ever tablet, i also read the emerald tablets and they confirm what the sumerian tablets say and more

you bibletards lost, your "abrahamic" religions has brought a plague of wars onto the planet created by your own stupidity

the sumerian tablets and the emerald tablets depicts and tells a history of FACTS about who we were, what we are and what we will become

your too stupid to realize that, keep bending over and wielding your jesus books for the rest of the stupid herd
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HUSTLEMAN TRIES HIS BEST TO TWIST THE TRUTH NO MATTER WHAT. HE KNOWS HE WILL GET AWAY WITH THE FAKE 2012 NEW AGE ASCENSION CRAP. WHEN HUSTLEMAN PRETENDS TO COME DOWN FROM THE HEAVENS HE WILL BE ON EARTH THE WHOLE TIME. AS LONG AS HIS CONTROL ON THIS WORLD EXISTS AS IT IS TODAY, HE WILL ALWAYS DECEIVE. GLP EXISTS FOR THIS SOLE PURPOSE. HUSTLEMAN LOVES TO SPAM FALSE INFO AND MAKE THE NAIVE FEEL LIKE THEY ARE SUPERIOR. WHEN THE FAKE 2012 ASCENSION ARRIVES FOR A SHORT TIME AND EVERYONE BOWS DOWN TO HUSTLEMAN, THAT WILL MARK THE BEGGING OF THE END OF THE LIES SPEWED IN THIS THREAD BY THE OP.
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NO one on this thread believe's " HE WILL GET AWAY WITH THE FAKE 2012 NEW AGE ASCENSION CRAP. WHEN HUSTLEMAN PRETENDS TO COME DOWN FROM THE HEAVENS HE WILL BE ON EARTH THE WHOLE TIME" Or whatever you are spitting all over the keyboard. This thread is about the simalarities in the bible scriptures and sumarian aka; "mythologies".

We have GOOD/NORMAL people whom are men and women of god discussing their faith in Gods words in the bible. then we have GOOD/NORMAL whom are disputing the bible not only being the true word of god, but might be missing something or leaving out A WHOLE LOTTA INFO..Aka "what went down in sumar". No one -ME MAINLY- could care a less about hustlemans attempt to rule the world or control this website's mass. So thank you for your weird input, but its off subject and not needed...
 Quoting: Aiyanna



I think it would A LOT harder to take one religion, and and pass it around..In order to have a religion, PEOPLE MUST BELIEVE and have faith..


I actually think ever since the church stopped allowing sovereign souls to form religions around what ever they wanted to worship, we've had priests using the sun, as their life source fooling people..

The fact that ALL the religions are growing from the same source, is why so many of the texts look alike ..The same, few, with the esoteric knowledge to pull off ORGANIZED RELIGION have pulled this off EVERYWHERE, and now the world is enslaved by the same power's that egypt used to keep an empire going for over 2,000 years..

OBVIOUSLY, if empires lasted 2,000 years BEFORE organized religion's came along, suggests to me that the old way may be better..

Now, I'm NOT saying this coudn't all be fake, and stolen religions and holt books, knowing TPTB anything is possible..But, it still seems for them to pull this off on the scale that they have, they had to gather enough people, who need FAITH.. Organizing this many people with this much faith to worship around an obvious fruad has been possible because of the sun, and their esoteric knowledge, that we were banned from knowing..

I'm thinking the elites are using esoteric knowledge against the religious masses, as well as organizing these religions around esotericism, and this is why they all look the same,..The Numerology is the same for the jewish people, and christians, this is because they organized the religions around the sun, and her orbiting location, and can't be changed without breaking the magic..

Organizing large groups of people WITH faith is not as easy as one would think..

Because, it's down right impossible without esoteric knowledge..Since organizing religions using esotericism, their isn't room to change how it's organized, and this is why they all look so much alike..IMHO
bumphfyoda

I have enjoyed this thread op, thankyou!
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HUSTLEMAN TRIES HIS BEST TO TWIST THE TRUTH NO MATTER WHAT. HE KNOWS HE WILL GET AWAY WITH THE FAKE 2012 NEW AGE ASCENSION CRAP. WHEN HUSTLEMAN PRETENDS TO COME DOWN FROM THE HEAVENS HE WILL BE ON EARTH THE WHOLE TIME. AS LONG AS HIS CONTROL ON THIS WORLD EXISTS AS IT IS TODAY, HE WILL ALWAYS DECEIVE. GLP EXISTS FOR THIS SOLE PURPOSE. HUSTLEMAN LOVES TO SPAM FALSE INFO AND MAKE THE NAIVE FEEL LIKE THEY ARE SUPERIOR. WHEN THE FAKE 2012 ASCENSION ARRIVES FOR A SHORT TIME AND EVERYONE BOWS DOWN TO HUSTLEMAN, THAT WILL MARK THE BEGGING OF THE END OF THE LIES SPEWED IN THIS THREAD BY THE OP.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1551320


NO one on this thread believe's " HE WILL GET AWAY WITH THE FAKE 2012 NEW AGE ASCENSION CRAP. WHEN HUSTLEMAN PRETENDS TO COME DOWN FROM THE HEAVENS HE WILL BE ON EARTH THE WHOLE TIME" Or whatever you are spitting all over the keyboard. This thread is about the simalarities in the bible scriptures and sumarian aka; "mythologies".

We have GOOD/NORMAL people whom are men and women of god discussing their faith in Gods words in the bible. then we have GOOD/NORMAL whom are disputing the bible not only being the true word of god, but might be missing something or leaving out A WHOLE LOTTA INFO..Aka "what went down in sumar". No one -ME MAINLY- could care a less about hustlemans attempt to rule the world or control this website's mass. So thank you for your weird input, but its off subject and not needed...
 Quoting: Aiyanna



I think it would A LOT harder to take one religion, and and pass it around..In order to have a religion, PEOPLE MUST BELIEVE and have faith..


I actually think ever since the church stopped allowing sovereign souls to form religions around what ever they wanted to worship, we've had priests using the sun, as their life source fooling people..

The fact that ALL the religions are growing from the same source, is why so many of the texts look alike ..The same, few, with the esoteric knowledge to pull off ORGANIZED RELIGION have pulled this off EVERYWHERE, and now the world is enslaved by the same power's that egypt used to keep an empire going for over 2,000 years..

OBVIOUSLY, if empires lasted 2,000 years BEFORE organized religion's came along, suggests to me that the old way may be better..

Now, I'm NOT saying this coudn't all be fake, and stolen religions and holt books, knowing TPTB anything is possible..But, it still seems for them to pull this off on the scale that they have, they had to gather enough people, who need FAITH.. Organizing this many people with this much faith to worship around an obvious fruad has been possible because of the sun, and their esoteric knowledge, that we were banned from knowing..

I'm thinking the elites are using esoteric knowledge against the religious masses, as well as organizing these religions around esotericism, and this is why they all look the same,..The Numerology is the same for the jewish people, and christians, this is because they organized the religions around the sun, and her orbiting location, and can't be changed without breaking the magic..

Organizing large groups of people WITH faith is not as easy as one would think..

Because, it's down right impossible without esoteric knowledge..Since organizing religions using esotericism, their isn't room to change how it's organized, and this is why they all look so much alike..IMHO
bumphfyoda

I have enjoyed this thread op, thankyou!
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I have enjoyed your post as well. Very interesting and logical veiwpoint. When it all boils down to the principles and facts..look around we are all in the hands of some powerful con-artist. Personal gain and wealth is so easy to kill for-for some individuals, as astonishing as this would be to pull off it is possible none-the-less. Thank you for the kind words and input! hf
Humankind has not woven the web of life.
We are but one thread within it.
Whatever we do to the web, we do to ourselves.
All things are bound together.
All things connect.

Chief Seattle, 1854

When all the trees have been cut down,
when all the animals have been hunted,
when all the waters are polluted,
when all the air is unsafe to breathe,
only then will you discover you cannot eat money.

Cree Prophecy

"Our land is everything to us... I will tell you one of the things we remember on our land. We remember that our grandfathers paid for it - with their lives." - John Wooden Leg, Cheyenne

You must teach your children that the ground beneath their feet is the ashes of your grandfathers.
So that they will respect the land, tell your children that the earth is rich with the lives of our kin.
Teach your children what we have taught our children, that the earth is our mother.
Whatever befalls the earth befalls the sons of the earth.
If men spit upon the ground, they spit upon themselves. ~Iroquois~
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"Stick to Jesus' words in the Gospel."


That would require me to completely change who I am, And drop to an IQ level of less then 100..I'm just not willing to do that.
 Quoting: Aiyanna


there is no fool bigger than the one who thinks he knows everything.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1521440


except for the one who has all the answers because he has read and believes in only one book.
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"Stick to Jesus' words in the Gospel."


That would require me to completely change who I am, And drop to an IQ level of less then 100..I'm just not willing to do that.
 Quoting: Aiyanna


there is no fool bigger than the one who thinks he knows everything.
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except for the one who has all the answers because he has read and believes in only one book.
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Couldn't have said it better myself. cheers
Humankind has not woven the web of life.
We are but one thread within it.
Whatever we do to the web, we do to ourselves.
All things are bound together.
All things connect.

Chief Seattle, 1854

When all the trees have been cut down,
when all the animals have been hunted,
when all the waters are polluted,
when all the air is unsafe to breathe,
only then will you discover you cannot eat money.

Cree Prophecy

"Our land is everything to us... I will tell you one of the things we remember on our land. We remember that our grandfathers paid for it - with their lives." - John Wooden Leg, Cheyenne

You must teach your children that the ground beneath their feet is the ashes of your grandfathers.
So that they will respect the land, tell your children that the earth is rich with the lives of our kin.
Teach your children what we have taught our children, that the earth is our mother.
Whatever befalls the earth befalls the sons of the earth.
If men spit upon the ground, they spit upon themselves. ~Iroquois~
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Now i'm gonna work on the similarities of lord anu and the god of the OT.
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I have been researching this for years the sumerian tablets follow genesis to the T
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It is the other way around, the bible follows the sumarian tablets because many of the books in the OT are just copies of what the hebrews learned while in captivity and put their twist on them. That is why during the Iraq war many ancient evidence of these stories and proof of whose version is older were stolen or destroyed.
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I think The Mystery religion was GOD's intention, surely my creator doesn't want me to be it's slave.. So many christians have been dicieved ''by God's choosen people'' , when the words of your bible have been changed to make you worship Israel, without you even knowing it you are not living in Gods good graces

Genesis 1: 14 God says " 14 And God said, “Let there be lights in the vault of the sky to separate the day from the night, and let them serve as signs to mark sacred times, and days and years, 15 and let them be lights in the vault of the sky to give light on the earth.” And it was so. 16 God made two great lights—the greater light to govern the day and the lesser light to govern the night. He also made the stars. 17 God set them in the vault of the sky to give light on the earth, 18 to govern the day and the night, and to separate light from darkness. And God saw that it was good. 19 And there was evening, and there was morning—the fourth day. -

- GENESIS 1:14 CLEARLY IS TELLING US THE STARS, MOONS AND SUNS ARE SACRED, and bring light to read signs (signs we've been told to look for) or to mark (or create) NEW sacred events with..

WE ARE TOLD BY GOD IN GENESIS TO GOVERN OURSELF WITH THESE LIGHTS ( this also matches how the ancients lived) They believed in the sovereignity to worship as, and what you pleased, God was in everything both heaven and earth, and he likes worship in all his things


GENESIS IS FILLED WITH THESE KIND OF PROMISES! That obviously have not been fullfilled

THIS IS NOT THE FIRST TIME ISRAEL DID THIS TO GOD EITHER Genesis and Exodus are telling the story of Israel's redemption and second chance to enter into God's covenant, if you can read past the "fluff" that this is why ''they're God's chosen people'' and this is why they were freed


Israel was captured for the creation of Babylon (I'm sure they removed this part to be the victim in the stories of their enslavement) for breaking the first covanant, this was GOD'S WRATH [link to en.wikipedia.org]

Genesis 17:7, "1 will establish my last covenant between me and thee, and thy seed after thee, in their generations, for an everlasting covenant; to be a God unto thee, and to thy seed after thee." and Exodus is telling the story of the second covenant, or promise,
to follow God's law,.

[link to search.yahoo.com] the second, and last covenant God will sign with Israel is the book we know AS EXODUS, and is NOT validation of them being Gods people, BUT RATHER GOD IS FORGIVING

ISRAEL BROKE THE COVENANT WHEN THEY KILLED JESUS
Christ's death on the Cross sealed the "vision and the prophecy" in three ways. First, it literally sealed the New Covenant with his blood. Second, it fulfilled all that was prophesied of him, as he himself declared (Luke 24:44-45)

THE BLOOD OF JESUS SEALED VISION AND THE PROPHESY, the prophesy, and MOST of the bible are inter-married, but all through the bible we hear a stroy of changing your ways, and threats of banishment and destruction for those who don't

THESE ARE ALL PARTS OF THE SECOND COVENANT, and WARNINGS to Israel God tends to refer to us as sheep

When Christians except holy communion, THEY EXCEPT ISRAEL ''BECAUSE THE BLOOD OF JESUS"SEAlED GOD'S SECOND COVANENT WITH ISRAEL, little do the christians know when they're doing it they're trning on Christ by accepting communion, without even knowing what they're participating in.. EXODUS 17 " Just as valueless was that ‘blood of slain beasts,’ but it represented ‘the precious blood of Christ" - that's the problem with this magi they use, even if you dont know you are doing it, not only are you doing it, ur ritualizing it, so the God's hear

Reread exodus IN CONTEXT as Israel NOT BEING OF GOD, and it makes sense,

this is PROOF they're NOT GOD'S CHOSEN in context STRAIGHT FROM THE WORD OF GOD, but you wont hear that from your church (ONLY HEBREW SACRAMNENT) and about their god, because Israel created the church where your worshiping the God of Israel, ZION..

God's word is clear in this covenant and if you read it like ISRAEL IS NOT GOD'S CHOSEN PEOPLE, BUT RATHER BEING GIVEN ANOTHER CHANCE, IT ALL MAKES SENSE all the visions in the bible the prophets had was of Israel breaking this covenant..


(Lev. 10:1, 2). After this scene in our chapter, they were consecrated to the priesthood and it was while in the performance of their duty in this office, or rather because of their failure in it, that they fell under the judgment of God. Let the warning sink deep into our hearts, that office and special privileges are alike powerless to save"And they saw the God of Israel; and there was under His feet as it were a paved work of a sapphire stone, and as it were the body of heaven in his clearness" (v. 10). The "sapphire stone" speaks of Divine government—the throne of God— a cross reference to this line is in Ezekiel 1:26; that government which will yet rest upon the shoulders of "the Man" Christ Jesus. But why the "paved work"? May not the reference be to the finished work of the Savior which forms the basis of His Millennial reign? Christ came here to finish the Father’s work

ISRAEL SURE HAS "BEEN THE NAN" who RESTED ON THE SHOULDERS JESUS CHRIST , and we're going down w her

' Israel’s history continued for almost fifteen hundred years after this memorable occasion, but never again did their elders "see God," and never again did they eat and drink in His presence. Sin came in; their very next act was to break the holy Law by making and worshipping a golden calf, and the next time we see them drinking, it is of the waters of judgment ( 32:20) Hmmmm Golden calf?? Sound like bankers - lol

(John 5:17, 17:4), piecing it all together, that it might be a pavement of glory as the place of His feet. The "body of heaven in his clearness" may speak of the Divine counsels. If we look up to heaven on a clear day all is blue; it is the intensity of the depths of space, infinite—like Jehovah’s counsels. But in Christ God has brought His counsels so near that we may contemplate them as the body of heaven in its clearness.

This line in john says how much better GOD is at being overment-

"Hebrews 9:8 "In the destruction of the Temple in A.D. 70, after it was no longer standing, it was manifested that the old covenant had vanished away, and the new heaven and new earth of this gospel dispensation was now in effect.The old was ready to vanish away. The new was manifested after the Temple was destroyed''

Now that we worship Israel's God, we've even given them back thy land that God took away from them for killing Jesus


Book of matthew is on dealing with the sins of the church, all the book in your bible, all the little warnings and prophesy's that were had at the 2nd covenant


This book goes onto deal with EVERY sin of the church, and has John the baptist having visions and looking for signs in the sky (something Israel doen'st want us doing, or knowing how to do is to know these signs, so they've PLACED THEM IN PLANE VIEW, in the numerology the used in our bible

HERE WE HAVE ISRAEL PERVERTING GOD'S ALTER LIKE THE PROPHECY ALSO SAID WOULD HAPPEN 2 the 2nd covenant

ISRAEL DECLARES ISRAEL 'THE CANON'' -fact [link to search.yahoo.com]

Then they create the Cathloc Church to act as their ecclesiastical authority to change God's law [link to www.newadvent.org]

''Greek Christians by the fourth century A.D. had given the word a quasi-technical religious meaning, the Bible was especially favorable to the Jewish books"

''Christians hear NO SCRIPTURE that isn't considered a Hebrew Sacrament due to the incredible amount of Israel's influence over the creation of the church, most christians have NEVER heard anything considered Christian canon, or sacraments''

This is why our bible has so much praise for Israel WHICH CONFLICT W EXODUS AND GENESIS, THE BOOKS FIRST 2 BOOKS OF THE OLD TESTAMENT, the old testament is telling a story of israels redemption not making Israel "God's chosen people" because God gave them a 2nd chance..l
Link: [link to bible.org]

The ENTIRE first covenant is gone from the bible, and you have to go to earlier texts to know or see this.The ancients lived under the first covenant of God, and closer to how we should all be living..

I don't think The debate of who came first, is be framed right..

ONLY EGYPT WROTE EVERYTHING DOWN, so they're ALWAYS who to cross fact check with, and it's in their writings you find answers for the other civilizations, their version has no editions, like the bible, for example

Yet, many Christians feel like that is pagan, why? YOU'RE BIBLE USES A FORM OF NUMEROLOGY THAT'S PAGAN, even though you dont know it, you practice it too
.
Israel want's the power of the heavens to hold over you, jut like in babylon

The Church defined Orthodoxoy with men and forbid us from knowing the heavens in the sky..and over a few thousand years this knowledge was not only forgoten, but demonized via the Cathlioc church which is defined by Israel..


EVERY BOOK IN THE BIBLE CONTAINS WARNINGS TO ISRAEL BASED OF PROPHESY OF THE SECOND COVENANT.. YOUR BIBLE USES ALL KINDS OF PAGANISM IN IT!


Genesis 17:7, "1 will establish my last covenant between me and thee, and thy seed after thee, in their generations, for an everlasting covenant; to be a God unto thee, and to thy seed after thee." and Exodus is telling the story of the second covenant, or promise to follow God's law, and not to try to be it (like babylon) and eventual freedom/redemption

[link to search.yahoo.com] the second, and last covenant God will sign with Israel is the book we know AS EXODUS, and is NOT validation of them being Gods people, BUT RATHER GOD IS FORGIVING

This time God's gonna BANISH and expose them, I don't know how this will relate or effect to the sheep the Bible talks of who will follow them blindly.. who are looking JUST LIKE THE CHRISTIANS turned jewish people..BUT, the book of john has SEVERAL lines about how the second coming isn't about destruction, BUT FULLFULLMENT of god's laws, and to NOT FEAR HIM..God BEGS US not to fear him for this, in the Book of John, but to know that he has loved you

John 1:16 ''Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy the law, but to fulfill'' warns people to not fear him because his laws will restored


when Israel was captured for the creation of Babylon it was wrath, for breaking the first covanent, GOD'S WRATH [link to en.wikipedia.org]

The ENTIRE first covenant is gone from the bible, and you have to go to earlier texts to know or see this.The ancients lived under the first covenant of God, and closer to how we should all be living..

EVERY PROPHESY IN THE BIBLE IS PAGAN!


Israel's declaration of Canon, is why it supports the Vatican, who at Irael's request will meet with Israel to pass laws and act as their ecclesiastical authority (Which Israel gives them) to change God's Laws Using Israel's convient self appointed, posistion of Canon (this is why MOST of us think Israel should hold physical, original copies of Holy books "for Interpretation") when their past says the shouldn't TOUCH anyone's holly books..

''Greek Christians by the fourth century A.D. had given the word a quasi-technical religious meaning, the Bible was especially favorable to the Jewish books"

''Christians hear NO SCRIPTURE that isn't considered a Hebrew Sacrament due to the incredible amount of Israel's influence over the creation of the church, most christians have NEVER heard anything considered Christian canon, or sacraments''

This is why our bible has so much praise for Israel WHICH CONFLICT WITH THE FIRST TWO OF THE OLD TESTAMENT, the old testament is telling a story of israels redemption not making Israel "God's chosen people"

Link: [link to bible.org] they changed Gods world

Israel has turned America into an extension of her slef, changing your religion and God's Word, and we are enslaved by the bible, a creation of Israel therefore enslaved by Israel. EVERYTHING in America's Churches is a Hebrew Sacrament, NO ONE can say ANYTHING in our church that isn't -
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In case anyone is to lazy to go through this thread and WANTS (key word here) to know more about the sumarian history for themselves (not JUST MY WORD FOR IT! LOL) Here is a great link with the complete (i believe) video collection of what we do have avaiable as of now..Enjoy! hf

[link to truthisscary.com]

I
bump for these Awesome tablets..i just love this stuff!
Humankind has not woven the web of life.
We are but one thread within it.
Whatever we do to the web, we do to ourselves.
All things are bound together.
All things connect.

Chief Seattle, 1854

When all the trees have been cut down,
when all the animals have been hunted,
when all the waters are polluted,
when all the air is unsafe to breathe,
only then will you discover you cannot eat money.

Cree Prophecy

"Our land is everything to us... I will tell you one of the things we remember on our land. We remember that our grandfathers paid for it - with their lives." - John Wooden Leg, Cheyenne

You must teach your children that the ground beneath their feet is the ashes of your grandfathers.
So that they will respect the land, tell your children that the earth is rich with the lives of our kin.
Teach your children what we have taught our children, that the earth is our mother.
Whatever befalls the earth befalls the sons of the earth.
If men spit upon the ground, they spit upon themselves. ~Iroquois~
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I think The Mystery religion was GOD's intention, surely my creator doesn't want me to be it's slave.. So many christians have been dicieved ''by God's choosen people'' , when the words of your bible have been changed to make you worship Israel, without you even knowing it you are not living in Gods good graces

Genesis 1: 14 God says " 14 And God said, “Let there be lights in the vault of the sky to separate the day from the night, and let them serve as signs to mark sacred times, and days and years, 15 and let them be lights in the vault of the sky to give light on the earth.” And it was so. 16 God made two great lights—the greater light to govern the day and the lesser light to govern the night. He also made the stars. 17 God set them in the vault of the sky to give light on the earth, 18 to govern the day and the night, and to separate light from darkness. And God saw that it was good. 19 And there was evening, and there was morning—the fourth day. -

- GENESIS 1:14 CLEARLY IS TELLING US THE STARS, MOONS AND SUNS ARE SACRED, and bring light to read signs (signs we've been told to look for) or to mark (or create) NEW sacred events with..

WE ARE TOLD BY GOD IN GENESIS TO GOVERN OURSELF WITH THESE LIGHTS ( this also matches how the ancients lived) They believed in the sovereignity to worship as, and what you pleased, God was in everything both heaven and earth, and he likes worship in all his things


GENESIS IS FILLED WITH THESE KIND OF PROMISES! That obviously have not been fullfilled

THIS IS NOT THE FIRST TIME ISRAEL DID THIS TO GOD EITHER Genesis and Exodus are telling the story of Israel's redemption and second chance to enter into God's covenant, if you can read past the "fluff" that this is why ''they're God's chosen people'' and this is why they were freed


Israel was captured for the creation of Babylon (I'm sure they removed this part to be the victim in the stories of their enslavement) for breaking the first covanant, this was GOD'S WRATH [link to en.wikipedia.org]

Genesis 17:7, "1 will establish my last covenant between me and thee, and thy seed after thee, in their generations, for an everlasting covenant; to be a God unto thee, and to thy seed after thee." and Exodus is telling the story of the second covenant, or promise,
to follow God's law,.

[link to search.yahoo.com] the second, and last covenant God will sign with Israel is the book we know AS EXODUS, and is NOT validation of them being Gods people, BUT RATHER GOD IS FORGIVING

ISRAEL BROKE THE COVENANT WHEN THEY KILLED JESUSChrist's death on the Cross sealed the "vision and the prophecy" in three ways. First, it literally sealed the New Covenant with his blood. Second, it fulfilled all that was prophesied of him, as he himself declared (Luke 24:44-45)

THE BLOOD OF JESUS SEALED VISION AND THE PROPHESY, the prophesy, and MOST of the bible are inter-married, but all through the bible we hear a stroy of changing your ways, and threats of banishment and destruction for those who don't

THESE ARE ALL PARTS OF THE SECOND COVENANT, and WARNINGS to Israel God tends to refer to us as sheep

When Christians except holy communion, THEY EXCEPT ISRAEL ''BECAUSE THE BLOOD OF JESUS"SEAlED GOD'S SECOND COVANENT WITH ISRAEL, little do the christians know when they're doing it they're trning on Christ by accepting communion, without even knowing what they're participating in.. EXODUS 17 " Just as valueless was that ‘blood of slain beasts,’ but it represented ‘the precious blood of Christ" - that's the problem with this magi they use, even if you dont know you are doing it, not only are you doing it, ur ritualizing it, so the God's hear

Reread exodus IN CONTEXT as Israel NOT BEING OF GOD, and it makes sense,

this is PROOF they're NOT GOD'S CHOSEN in context STRAIGHT FROM THE WORD OF GOD, but you wont hear that from your church (ONLY HEBREW SACRAMNENT) and about their god, because Israel created the church where your worshiping the God of Israel, ZION..God's word is clear in this covenant and if you read it like ISRAEL IS NOT GOD'S CHOSEN PEOPLE, BUT RATHER BEING GIVEN ANOTHER CHANCE, IT ALL MAKES SENSE all the visions in the bible the prophets had was of Israel breaking this covenant..


(Lev. 10:1, 2). After this scene in our chapter, they were consecrated to the priesthood and it was while in the performance of their duty in this office, or rather because of their failure in it, that they fell under the judgment of God. Let the warning sink deep into our hearts, that office and special privileges are alike powerless to save"And they saw the God of Israel; and there was under His feet as it were a paved work of a sapphire stone, and as it were the body of heaven in his clearness" (v. 10). The "sapphire stone" speaks of Divine government—the throne of God— a cross reference to this line is in Ezekiel 1:26; that government which will yet rest upon the shoulders of "the Man" Christ Jesus. But why the "paved work"? May not the reference be to the finished work of the Savior which forms the basis of His Millennial reign? Christ came here to finish the Father’s work

ISRAEL SURE HAS "BEEN THE NAN" who RESTED ON THE SHOULDERS JESUS CHRIST , and we're going down w her

' Israel’s history continued for almost fifteen hundred years after this memorable occasion, but never again did their elders "see God," and never again did they eat and drink in His presence. Sin came in; their very next act was to break the holy Law by making and worshipping a golden calf, and the next time we see them drinking, it is of the waters of judgment ( 32:20) Hmmmm Golden calf?? Sound like bankers - lol

(John 5:17, 17:4), piecing it all together, that it might be a pavement of glory as the place of His feet. The "body of heaven in his clearness" may speak of the Divine counsels. If we look up to heaven on a clear day all is blue; it is the intensity of the depths of space, infinite—like Jehovah’s counsels. But in Christ God has brought His counsels so near that we may contemplate them as the body of heaven in its clearness.

This line in john says how much better GOD is at being overment-

"Hebrews 9:8 "In the destruction of the Temple in A.D. 70, after it was no longer standing, it was manifested that the old covenant had vanished away, and the new heaven and new earth of this gospel dispensation was now in effect.The old was ready to vanish away. The new was manifested after the Temple was destroyed''

Now that we worship Israel's God, we've even given them back thy land that God took away from them for killing Jesus


Book of matthew is on dealing with the sins of the church, all the book in your bible, all the little warnings and prophesy's that were had at the 2nd covenant


This book goes onto deal with EVERY sin of the church, and has John the baptist having visions and looking for signs in the sky (something Israel doen'st want us doing, or knowing how to do is to know these signs, so they've PLACED THEM IN PLANE VIEW, in the numerology the used in our bible

HERE WE HAVE ISRAEL PERVERTING GOD'S ALTER LIKE THE PROPHECY ALSO SAID WOULD HAPPEN 2 the 2nd covenant

ISRAEL DECLARES ISRAEL 'THE CANON'' -fact [link to search.yahoo.com]

Then they create the Cathloc Church to act as their ecclesiastical authority to change God's law [link to www.newadvent.org]

''Greek Christians by the fourth century A.D. had given the word a quasi-technical religious meaning, the Bible was especially favorable to the Jewish books"

''Christians hear NO SCRIPTURE that isn't considered a Hebrew Sacrament due to the incredible amount of Israel's influence over the creation of the church, most christians have NEVER heard anything considered Christian canon, or sacraments''

This is why our bible has so much praise for Israel WHICH CONFLICT W EXODUS AND GENESIS, THE BOOKS FIRST 2 BOOKS OF THE OLD TESTAMENT, the old testament is telling a story of israels redemption not making Israel "God's chosen people" because God gave them a 2nd chance..l
Link: [link to bible.org]

The ENTIRE first covenant is gone from the bible, and you have to go to earlier texts to know or see this.The ancients lived under the first covenant of God, and closer to how we should all be living..

I don't think The debate of who came first, is be framed right..

ONLY EGYPT WROTE EVERYTHING DOWN, so they're ALWAYS who to cross fact check with, and it's in their writings you find answers for the other civilizations, their version has no editions, like the bible, for example

Yet, many Christians feel like that is pagan, why? YOU'RE BIBLE USES A FORM OF NUMEROLOGY THAT'S PAGAN, even though you dont know it, you practice it too.
Israel want's the power of the heavens to hold over you, jut like in babylon

The Church defined Orthodoxoy with men and forbid us from knowing the heavens in the sky..and over a few thousand years this knowledge was not only forgoten, but demonized via the Cathlioc church which is defined by Israel..


EVERY BOOK IN THE BIBLE CONTAINS WARNINGS TO ISRAEL BASED OF PROPHESY OF THE SECOND COVENANT.. YOUR BIBLE USES ALL KINDS OF PAGANISM IN IT!
Genesis 17:7, "1 will establish my last covenant between me and thee, and thy seed after thee, in their generations, for an everlasting covenant; to be a God unto thee, and to thy seed after thee." and Exodus is telling the story of the second covenant, or promise to follow God's law, and not to try to be it (like babylon) and eventual freedom/redemption

[link to search.yahoo.com] the second, and last covenant God will sign with Israel is the book we know AS EXODUS, and is NOT validation of them being Gods people, BUT RATHER GOD IS FORGIVING

This time God's gonna BANISH and expose them, I don't know how this will relate or effect to the sheep the Bible talks of who will follow them blindly.. who are looking JUST LIKE THE CHRISTIANS turned jewish people..BUT, the book of john has SEVERAL lines about how the second coming isn't about destruction, BUT FULLFULLMENT of god's laws, and to NOT FEAR HIM..God BEGS US not to fear him for this, in the Book of John, but to know that he has loved you

John 1:16 ''Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy the law, but to fulfill'' warns people to not fear him because his laws will restored


when Israel was captured for the creation of Babylon it was wrath, for breaking the first covanent, GOD'S WRATH [link to en.wikipedia.org]

The ENTIRE first covenant is gone from the bible, and you have to go to earlier texts to know or see this.The ancients lived under the first covenant of God, and closer to how we should all be living..

EVERY PROPHESY IN THE BIBLE IS PAGAN!


Israel's declaration of Canon, is why it supports the Vatican, who at Irael's request will meet with Israel to pass laws and act as their ecclesiastical authority (Which Israel gives them) to change God's Laws Using Israel's convient self appointed, posistion of Canon (this is why MOST of us think Israel should hold physical, original copies of Holy books "for Interpretation") when their past says the shouldn't TOUCH anyone's holly books..

''Greek Christians by the fourth century A.D. had given the word a quasi-technical religious meaning, the Bible was especially favorable to the Jewish books"

''Christians hear NO SCRIPTURE that isn't considered a Hebrew Sacrament due to the incredible amount of Israel's influence over the creation of the church, most christians have NEVER heard anything considered Christian canon, or sacraments''

This is why our bible has so much praise for Israel WHICH CONFLICT WITH THE FIRST TWO OF THE OLD TESTAMENT, the old testament is telling a story of israels redemption not making Israel "God's chosen people"

Link: [link to bible.org] they changed Gods world

Israel has turned America into an extension of her slef, changing your religion and God's Word, and we are enslaved by the bible, a creation of Israel therefore enslaved by Israel. EVERYTHING in America's Churches is a Hebrew Sacrament, NO ONE can say ANYTHING in our church that isn't -
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this was very interesting i am very curious about this stuff i have just started looking at this stuff and researching all of this
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The Sumarian tablet's and The Bible share some astonishing similarities. I don't know how to be more blunt then that. How can anyone in this world/dimension/reality believe anything they are told. How can you trust the history we have all been taught to learn, LET ALONE have faith in religion? The only thing I can see in religious people now is the inability to question anything because of their lack of logic, sense, imagination and fear of this sky bully you refer to as god. Do you have any self respect and dignity anymore? Not only am I looking into everything I can get my hands on, I am also QUESTIONING the answer's I do find. I have no hope for humanity because their to busy telling me I'm going to hell. Givin the shape this world is in,I'm the one who need's to go to make-believe hell?

Many of the similarities between Sumerian religion and the Bible can be found in the book of Genesis. In both the Sumerian story of creation and the Bible, the world is formed from “a watery abyss” and the “heavens and earth” are separated from one another by a supreme being.
In the Bible we find that god created man “And the Lord God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life” (Genesis 2:7) In the Sumerian story of “Enki and Ninmah”(ETCSL), you will see that they used a similar method and fashioned man out of clay. In the story “Enki and Ninhursaja” (ETCSL), we find the first possible similarity to the biblical Eve. Enki ends up eating eight different plants from the garden, which happen to be Ninhursaja’s children. When Ninhursaja finds out about this, she curses Enki. “Ninhursaja cursed the name Enki: "Until his dying day, I will never look upon him with life-giving eye" This curse causes Enki to have eight wounds on his body, one for each of the plants that he has eaten. Enlil, Enki’s brother, and a fox act on behalf of Enki. They track down Ninhursaja and have her undo the damage caused by the curse she has placed on Enki. Ninhursaja and Enki have sex, the result being eight new children being born to replace the ones that Enki has eaten. As they are born, these new children in turn each heal one of Enki’s wounds. The child that heals Enki’s rib is named Ninti."My brother, what part of you hurts you?" "My ribs (ti) hurt me." She gave birth to Ninti out of it.” Ninti is also known as the Queen of months and the lady of the rib (ti). In the book of Genesis, Eve is created by God by taking one of Adams ribs.
In The Epic of Gilgamesh, during Gilgamesh’s quest for immortality to save Enkidu, he meets a man by the name of Utnapishtim. Gilgamesh asks Utnapishtim how he gained his eternal life, Utnapishtim relates to Gilgamesh the story of the great flood. While Utnapishtim was living in the city of Shurrupak, one of the four primary Sumerian gods EA came to Utnapishtim and whispered to him that he should:

“tear down your house and build a boat, abandon possessions and look for life, despise worldly goods and save your soul alive. Tear down your house, I say, and build a boat. These are the measurements of the barque as you shall build her” (Epic of Gilgamesh pg.20)

EA then proceeds to give Utnapishtim the measurements to build the boat, and commands him to “take up into the boat the seed of all living creatures.” (Epic of Gilgamesh pg. 20) In the Story of Noah and the great flood, God comes to Noah and instructs him to build an Ark built of gopherwood. He then tells him the measurements, and instructs Noah “of every living thing of all flesh you shall bring two of every sort into the Ark, to keep them alive with you; they shall be male and female.” (Genesis 6:19). In both stories the flood is created by the gods because they are unhappy with man and that the impending flood is related to common man by a divine presence. Also in both stories they are instructed not only how to build the boat with exact dimensions, but also to bring their families and animals with them. More similarities between the two arrive later in the story, with specificity for how long the flood lasted. ”For six days and six nights the winds blew, torrent and tempest and flood overwhelmed the world, tempest and flood raged together like warring hosts. When the seventh day dawned the storm from the south subsided, the sea grew calm, the flood was stilled.” (The Epic of Gilgamesh) “Now the flood was on the earth for forty days.” (Genesis 7:17) Another similarity comes after the flood subsides, when both Utnapishtim and Noah both release not only ravens but also doves to see if the waters had dried from the earth. After this happens, both men build alters and make offerings to their God in acts of worship. There are many differences between the stories of the great flood in the book of Genesis and The Epic of Gilgamesh. However, when the similarities are pointed out between the two there is a clarity of reason about why the flood happened, the relationship between the hero of the story and their respective God, the specifics about not only how to build the ship but what to bring on it, the timed duration of the flood, the kinds of birds that were released after for their test flights for land. Even after the flood, both boats come to rest on a mountainside, instead of perhaps on a plain or valley. By examining the relationship between the two stories, even with their differences, you find that their commonalities are great. The most glaring similarity is the point by point order of these similarities throughout the stories, even though logically there are so many other possibilities, variations and alternatives.

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I will add more as i get it.

Update 9/20/2011

Found a great website for the sumarian tablet translations we have avaiable. I believe this web site has the complete video collection! I have watched them alot and enjoyed them, So hope you all enjoy learning about this as well!

[link to truthisscary.com]
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honestly read this book

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all information in its simplest form can be reduced to bytes of either 1 or 0

1 would be god, since he is the creator,

0 would be Satan since he is the destroyer or adversary, trying to reduce us all to a singularity and than into nothingness.

everything you see, read or hear is information coming from one of two sources.

god or the devil

if you see similiarities in sumerian religion than it is either god telling you something or the devil,
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honestly read this book

[link to www.amazon.com]

all information in its simplest form can be reduced to bytes of either 1 or 0

1 would be god, since he is the creator,

0 would be Satan since he is the destroyer or adversary, trying to reduce us all to a singularity and than into nothingness.

everything you see, read or hear is information coming from one of two sources.

god or the devil

if you see similiarities in sumerian religion than it is either god telling you something or the devil,
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1= God / 0= Devil / You = Fail.
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