Greek bond soaring , closer to default. | |
Shogu666 (OP) User ID: 1217094 Poland 09/13/2011 05:32 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
SEV User ID: 1440575 Canada 09/13/2011 05:35 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | How long do they have till Poland? The world as we know it has already ended/We've changed ALOT of things since JUST last year/Everyone protesting and and awaking all the way to the strange "anomalies" and "coincidences" we see everyday in our lives/It won't stop there either/Something IS coming something to be proud of (: |
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Face Palmer User ID: 1547514 Germany 09/13/2011 05:54 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Your retirement fund "The world will soon wake up to the reality that everyone is broke and can collect nothing from the bankrupt, who are owed unlimited amounts by the insolvent, who are attempting to make late payments on a bank holiday in the wrong country, with an unacceptable currency, against defaulted collateral, of which nobody is sure who holds title." Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity. The woman who is not pursued sets up the doctrine that pursuit is offensive to her sex, and wants to make it a felony. No genuinely attractive woman has any such desire. - H.L. Mencken, In Defense Of Women |
dettol User ID: 1547625 New Zealand 09/13/2011 05:58 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | BINGO!! It's now at 123%.. Last Edited by dettol on 09/13/2011 05:59 AM |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1466002 Denmark 09/13/2011 06:03 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | European newspapers say a default is eminent but they try will to postpone it until the banks are stronger. LOL As if that will happen [link to translate.google.com] |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1270738 Portugal 09/13/2011 06:38 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Evidently the heavy selling in French banks this morning can be (partially) attributed to this WSJ opinion piece. 'We can no longer borrow dollars. U.S. money-market funds are not lending to us anymore," a bank executive for BNP Paribas, who declines to be named, told me last week. "Since we don't have access to dollars anymore, we're creating a market in euros. This is a first. . . . We hope it will work, otherwise the downward spiral will be hell. We will no longer be trusted at all and no one will lend to us anymore." That line -- "We can no longer borrow in dollars" -- is what got people freaked out, prompting the bank to issue a denial, saying it CAN still borrow in dollars (despite well known funding issues and money-market retrenchment). Meanwhile, there are comments out from Merkel today basically telling everyone to choose their words more carefully when talking about the crisis. Read more: [link to www.businessinsider.com] |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1547388 Germany 09/13/2011 07:14 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | We should default now and bring everyone down, as the matter of fact we should have done it much earlier. The ravens get richer from our delays and we get poorer. But they wont let us until the totally drain us. Quoting: Ostria1 as one of your fellow countrymen once said: MOLON LABE ...still has a nice ring to it, i think |
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SEV User ID: 1440575 Canada 09/13/2011 07:47 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Our constitution says debt cant be bigger than 60% of GDP. We are close to that margin ( 55% to precise ) then our budget have to be without deficit. I wonder if that will protects us in reality from banksters. How long do you think Greece has until default since its bonds are over 130% LOL Its unbelievable are its bonds even real? Last Edited by SEV on 09/13/2011 07:47 AM The world as we know it has already ended/We've changed ALOT of things since JUST last year/Everyone protesting and and awaking all the way to the strange "anomalies" and "coincidences" we see everyday in our lives/It won't stop there either/Something IS coming something to be proud of (: |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1544829 Greece 09/13/2011 07:51 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Ther mindset is: borrow money (wheel borrow money) with no intention of ever paying it back. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1547666 ("Peter to pay Paul" squared) x infinity. called a ponzi or pyramid scheme whilst the bottom layers loose everything the pinnacle takes all wealth re distribution at its second ugliest form of course the first is open war |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1547388 Germany 09/13/2011 08:01 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | somebody please explain the concept: are these 1y bonds some papers issued by the greek government promising the buyer to buy them back @ printed value + 134% interest, and they have to make such a ridiculouos offer because otherwise nobody would buy them and therefor lend them the money, or do you buy them at "face value" but they are so hot that they practically get ripped out of the hands of the greek bank before they even hit the counter, and the 130% are a kind of premium the banks are asking for because they can? |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1155690 United States 09/13/2011 08:06 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | somebody please explain the concept: Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1547388 are these 1y bonds some papers issued by the greek government promising the buyer to buy them back @ printed value + 134% interest, and they have to make such a ridiculouos offer because otherwise nobody would buy them and therefor lend them the money, or do you buy them at "face value" but they are so hot that they practically get ripped out of the hands of the greek bank before they even hit the counter, and the 130% are a kind of premium the banks are asking for because they can? I believe so. I think it means 'hey I know we are in a rough spot, but if you invest in us, and suddenly we become a success you will be paid back MASSIVE amounts of money that you invested in us". Of course only the really really dangerous investments need to se this kind of an offer, you would never see the US beg for bond investments like this. So yea, I think your right. |
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Dynamitrios User ID: 1538986 Greece 09/13/2011 08:09 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | somebody please explain the concept: Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1547388 are these 1y bonds some papers issued by the greek government promising the buyer to buy them back @ printed value + 134% interest, and they have to make such a ridiculouos offer because otherwise nobody would buy them and therefor lend them the money, or do you buy them at "face value" but they are so hot that they practically get ripped out of the hands of the greek bank before they even hit the counter, and the 130% are a kind of premium the banks are asking for because they can? Well... i m a layman too, but it is something like a "Schlussverkauf" when you dont have any amoney anymore, you strat paaying with "assets" (territory, peoples labour, peoples savings etc...) so basically every rich guy and his grandma can buy some of the country with what they have in their wallets at that time... dont try to understand the bonds crap... its abstract, and benefits ONLY the banks... its a bank ponzi-scheme... sad thing is... almost the last BILD-Zeitung reader has got it, but somehow we all remain silent, not doing anything against it (eg. gather up corrupt politicians and their bankster cronies on public places and give them a bitchslappin' "by the people") Last Edited by Dynamitrios on 09/13/2011 08:10 AM a free man chooses, a slave obeys |