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Pistis Sophia Descended the Chakras So We All Could Return to the Light

 
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Good thread but Jesus is a made up story, that's obvious.
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The ancient narratives must be tied together before more can understand the text under your user name. Biases released. As I would think you know our chakras are not a story. They are the material manifestation of the astral light that resides within and without.
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Gnosis Weave

"plerophoreo" intellectual understanding
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"eurisko" knowledge of the heart, intuited and experiential.

Gnosis is the complete comprehension that comes from both rational and intuited means.
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Good thread but Jesus is a made up story, that's obvious.
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The ancient narratives must be tied together before more can understand the text under your user name. Biases released. As I would think you know our chakras are not a story. They are the material manifestation of the astral light that resides within and without.
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I said Jesus was a story, it's a farcical one at that. Your thread made sense till you started to talk about Jesus in a way as if he was really what the Bible says he was, which he obviously wasn't.

Using his name as an emblem is wrong, and pretending he was real is wrong and ignorant. No good can come of talking about Jesus.

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Good thread but Jesus is a made up story, that's obvious.
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The ancient narratives must be tied together before more can understand the text under your user name. Biases released. As I would think you know our chakras are not a story. They are the material manifestation of the astral light that resides within and without.
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I said Jesus was a story, it's a farcical one at that. Your thread made sense till you started to talk about Jesus in a way as if he was really what the Bible says he was, which he obviously wasn't.

Using his name as an emblem is wrong, and pretending he was real is wrong and ignorant. No good can come of talking about Jesus.
 Quoting: New Age Messiah


Gnosis Weave

"plerophoreo" intellectual understanding
weft with
"eurisko" knowledge of the heart, intuited and experiential.

Gnosis is the complete comprehension that comes from both rational and intuited means.

Gnostics used mythological language to describe the emergence of our planetary system as if it were a sentient process, felt and witnessed by cosmic presences— but for the seers who developed this myth, "as if" was "as is." They did not anthropomorphise, falsely projecting human qualities into a non-human world, but they attempted to describe the sentient, self-aware qualities of the cosmos at large.

Gnosis is living knowledge of a living universe.

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Gnostics used mythological language to describe the emergence of our planetary system as if it were a sentient process, felt and witnessed by cosmic presences— but for the seers who developed this myth, "as if" was "as is." They did not anthropomorphise, falsely projecting human qualities into a non-human world, but they attempted to describe the sentient, self-aware qualities of the cosmos at large.

Gnosis is living knowledge of a living universe.
 Quoting: a student of Protean thought

What does that have to do with the made up storybook character Jesus?

Jesus was a person, but only a person, and he wasn't known particularly for being a teacher, the things he supposedly said were already being said before he lived.
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If you check in Queen Bee. Thought you might enjoy this. I had posted it on another thread. cool2

Was just engaged in a conversation yesterday or the day before about Eris and her daughter moon Dysnomia. Fascinating stuff from a mythological position. How the naming of the dwarf planet came about. Eris is the trickster basically.

Between her and her moon they are screwing with the conventional concepts of our innate sexuality or oneness of male and female so to speak. They are screwing with Pluto or Scorpio one of the most innately sexually aggressive signs of the zodiac.

Sagittarius holds the scales of balance that would be between Pluto and Eris. Eris and her daughter are challenging conventional male and female sexuality roles which comes down to the evolution of societal structures regarding the issue of balancing matriarchy and patriarchy. A new age.

Sag would seek to balance the two energies into a more spiritual realm. Sag seeks the higher philosophical understanding of spiritual in all realms and structure. And in regards to sexual energy Sag would seek the balance found in tantric energy and expression. Sag would seek the balance to be found in “sacred”.

As viewed from a descent and ascent of the chakras the Pistis Sophia would be telling us the value of not getting stuck only within the lower one. tounge

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The term derives from the Ancient Greek words, meta, meaning beyond or after, and noia, meaning perception or understanding or mind.
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Gnostics used mythological language to describe the emergence of our planetary system as if it were a sentient process, felt and witnessed by cosmic presences— but for the seers who developed this myth, "as if" was "as is." They did not anthropomorphise, falsely projecting human qualities into a non-human world, but they attempted to describe the sentient, self-aware qualities of the cosmos at large.

Gnosis is living knowledge of a living universe.
 Quoting: a student of Protean thought

What does that have to do with the made up storybook character Jesus?

Jesus was a person, but only a person, and he wasn't known particularly for being a teacher, the things he supposedly said were already being said before he lived.
 Quoting: New Age Messiah


Yes. It was his mother that was trained in Gnosticism. Thus for that part to be left out of the Christian churches text and narrative left seeds of doubt within the weave that Protean speaks. Those seeds of doubt have lead many astray as the text under your user name also reveals.
The term derives from the Ancient Greek words, meta, meaning beyond or after, and noia, meaning perception or understanding or mind.
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Yes. It was his mother that was trained in Gnosticism. Thus for that part to be left out of the Christian churches text and narrative left seeds of doubt within the weave that Protean speaks. Those seeds of doubt have lead many astray as the text under your user name also reveals.
 Quoting: A Muse Me


There's nothing useful in the Bible, or in the story or regarding Jesus' supposed mother. It's a farce.

The text under my user name refers to the fact that I am the New Age Messiah, all religions are proved 100% false by the Goddess Tefnut.

thankgoddess
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Yes. It was his mother that was trained in Gnosticism. Thus for that part to be left out of the Christian churches text and narrative left seeds of doubt within the weave that Protean speaks. Those seeds of doubt have lead many astray as the text under your user name also reveals.
 Quoting: A Muse Me


There's nothing useful in the Bible, or in the story or regarding Jesus' supposed mother. It's a farce.

The text under my user name refers to the fact that I am the New Age Messiah, all religions are proved 100% false by the Goddess Tefnut.

thankgoddess
 Quoting: New Age Messiah


I understand the analogy of I am the way and the truth and the light and no man comes into the father but through me. I understand the reality of the petri dish of heaven and the abyss and the earth and the womb to nurture life. I do not understand those that claim to be a Messiah though. To me that seems to but perpetuate the text that led us astray into worshipping Messiahs. Maybe I miss your point of the message of I am.

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Gnostics used mythological language to describe the emergence of our planetary system as if it were a sentient process, felt and witnessed by cosmic presences— but for the seers who developed this myth, "as if" was "as is." They did not anthropomorphise, falsely projecting human qualities into a non-human world, but they attempted to describe the sentient, self-aware qualities of the cosmos at large.

Gnosis is living knowledge of a living universe.
 Quoting: a student of Protean thought

What does that have to do with the made up storybook character Jesus?

Jesus was a person, but only a person, and he wasn't known particularly for being a teacher, the things he supposedly said were already being said before he lived.
 Quoting: New Age Messiah


That is your belief and your opinion which I respect your position.

I am not here to post tit for tat.

Belief. A conviction of the truth of a proposition,
existing subjectively in the mind, and induced by argument,
persuation, or proof addressed to the judgement.

Latrobe v. J. H. Cross Co., D.C.Pa., 29 F.2d 210, 212.

A conclusion arrived at from external sources after weighing probability.
Conviction of the mind, arising not from actual perception or knowledge,
but by way of inference, or from evidence recieved or information derived from others.

Knowledge is an assurance of a fact or proposition founded on perception by the senses, or intuition;
while "belief" is an assurance gained by evidence,
and from other persons.
"Suspicion" is weaker than "belief," since suspicion requires real no foundation for its existence, while "belief" is necessarily based on at least assumed facts.

Cook v. Singer Sewing Mach. Co., 138 Cal.App. 418, 32 P.2d 430, 431.

Black's Law Dictionary
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mind parasites called Archons

The marks of the Archontic mind are hal- simulation, and krog- deception. Archons attempt to deviate us from our proper course of co-evolution with the biosphere, and undermine our reliance on other non-human terrestrial species to keep the course. They isolate us in a false anthropocentrism through paternal religious dogmas, and distract us from nature with make-believe, simulation, and artificiality.
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To long her is to thirst for her, to drink, sup, as her cup overflows with the milk of illumination. To taste her is a vision, the veil has been removed. To see her to find the chalice. Now coated with the blood of civilizations buried beneath the rubble of her shrine. ~ A Muse Me

We can long for ascension all we like but if one has not bore the weeping and gnashing of teeth of collective grief it will not happen. One must descend first before ascension. The ancients never left. They have resided in our genetic makeup and genetic memories all along. The ancients could only be remembered by journeying the abyss of creation.

No one is going to get to skate on out of here if they never descended into the abyss of the human condition in the first place. The astral light never left our genetic makeup. The astral must descend into the lower chakras. Many got stuck there by believing they were ever thrown out of the garden of the astral light in the first place. The journey back up the chakras is the activation.

The early Christian Church did humanity no favors by leaving the Gnostic Gospels out of the New Testament. A deliberate withholding of information. There was a small part that spoke of the Christ descending before ascension. And of course the part of his journey to the desert being tempted to remain in the trappings of the human condition for 40 days and 40 nights.

The Pistis Sophia is the Holy Spirit. The astral journeyed the abyss to find her innate wisdom. Her knowingness in her bones so to speak. Journeying back up the chakras is to employ the faith that astral still exist and never left our genetic memory bank in the first place. And the beauty of her spirit that resides in all of us is that when Jesus descended before his ascension he found her there still praising the light regardless of the torments she suffered in her journey of chosen descent.

Jesus was a man born from the lower chakras just like everyone else. He was a human that recognized from an early age and never forgot the astral light because he was trained in Gnosticism in the first place. The lineage of Mary were the Gnostics: that part of the narrative only included in the New Testament through the line, “No man come to the Father but through me.” None of this has ever been anything that has resided outside of the womb, outside of the chakras, outside the bodily temple of our spirt.

Believing that any of this ascension to the higher dimensions is activated outside of ourselves whether in metaphysical or religious context and belief is to miss the point. Jesus even revealed more of of this to Judas in a vital Gnostic text left out of the New Testament. He clearly told Judas we all hold the astral within coming down and returning to our own star once we praise the Spirit of the Holy Light and ask that the veil be lifted from our eyes.
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Gnostics used mythological language to describe the emergence of our planetary system as if it were a sentient process, felt and witnessed by cosmic presences— but for the seers who developed this myth, "as if" was "as is." They did not anthropomorphise, falsely projecting human qualities into a non-human world, but they attempted to describe the sentient, self-aware qualities of the cosmos at large.

Gnosis is living knowledge of a living universe.
 Quoting: a student of Protean thought

What does that have to do with the made up storybook character Jesus?

Jesus was a person, but only a person, and he wasn't known particularly for being a teacher, the things he supposedly said were already being said before he lived.
 Quoting: New Age Messiah


That is your belief and your opinion which I respect your position.

I am not here to post tit for tat.

Belief. A conviction of the truth of a proposition,
existing subjectively in the mind, and induced by argument,
persuation, or proof addressed to the judgement.

Latrobe v. J. H. Cross Co., D.C.Pa., 29 F.2d 210, 212.

A conclusion arrived at from external sources after weighing probability.
Conviction of the mind, arising not from actual perception or knowledge,
but by way of inference, or from evidence recieved or information derived from others.

Knowledge is an assurance of a fact or proposition founded on perception by the senses, or intuition;
while "belief" is an assurance gained by evidence,
and from other persons.
"Suspicion" is weaker than "belief," since suspicion requires real no foundation for its existence, while "belief" is necessarily based on at least assumed facts.

Cook v. Singer Sewing Mach. Co., 138 Cal.App. 418, 32 P.2d 430, 431.

Black's Law Dictionary
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mind parasites called Archons

The marks of the Archontic mind are hal- simulation, and krog- deception. Archons attempt to deviate us from our proper course of co-evolution with the biosphere, and undermine our reliance on other non-human terrestrial species to keep the course. They isolate us in a false anthropocentrism through paternal religious dogmas, and distract us from nature with make-believe, simulation, and artificiality.
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Gnostics used mythological language to describe the emergence of our planetary system as if it were a sentient process, felt and witnessed by cosmic presences— but for the seers who developed this myth, "as if" was "as is." They did not anthropomorphise, falsely projecting human qualities into a non-human world, but they attempted to describe the sentient, self-aware qualities of the cosmos at large.

Gnosis is living knowledge of a living universe.
 Quoting: a student of Protean thought

What does that have to do with the made up storybook character Jesus?

Jesus was a person, but only a person, and he wasn't known particularly for being a teacher, the things he supposedly said were already being said before he lived.
 Quoting: New Age Messiah


Yes. It was his mother that was trained in Gnosticism. Thus for that part to be left out of the Christian churches text and narrative left seeds of doubt within the weave that Protean speaks. Those seeds of doubt have lead many astray as the text under your user name also reveals.
 Quoting: A Muse Me


just one more part (aspect) of the FEMENINE they hid and denied makes sense his Momma teaching him this side of it all!
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Yes. It was his mother that was trained in Gnosticism. Thus for that part to be left out of the Christian churches text and narrative left seeds of doubt within the weave that Protean speaks. Those seeds of doubt have lead many astray as the text under your user name also reveals.
 Quoting: A Muse Me


There's nothing useful in the Bible, or in the story or regarding Jesus' supposed mother. It's a farce.

The text under my user name refers to the fact that I am the New Age Messiah, all religions are proved 100% false by the Goddess Tefnut.

thankgoddess
 Quoting: New Age Messiah


I understand the analogy of I am the way and the truth and the light and no man comes into the father but through me. I understand the reality of the petri dish of heaven and the abyss and the earth and the womb to nurture life. I do not understand those that claim to be a Messiah though. To me that seems to but perpetuate the text that led us astray into worshipping Messiahs. Maybe I miss your point of the message of I am.
 Quoting: A Muse Me


OP tell me simply what you understand...Who are WE is there more than one God spoken of in the Bible and other texts? (Who was Jesus' God? When he says as does others that we are one I in you and you in I and God in us (all) what is the most simplified beliefs of the gnostics? I know it has to do with knowledge, is earth just a learning place for us. We were all there before the foundation with "him" is this correct? Are we like angels are we a spark of God??? I am trying to get clarity on a few things....
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Gnostics used mythological language to describe the emergence of our planetary system as if it were a sentient process, felt and witnessed by cosmic presences— but for the seers who developed this myth, "as if" was "as is." They did not anthropomorphise, falsely projecting human qualities into a non-human world, but they attempted to describe the sentient, self-aware qualities of the cosmos at large.

Gnosis is living knowledge of a living universe.
 Quoting: a student of Protean thought

What does that have to do with the made up storybook character Jesus?

Jesus was a person, but only a person, and he wasn't known particularly for being a teacher, the things he supposedly said were already being said before he lived.
 Quoting: New Age Messiah


That is your belief and your opinion which I respect your position.

I am not here to post tit for tat.

Belief. A conviction of the truth of a proposition,
existing subjectively in the mind, and induced by argument,
persuation, or proof addressed to the judgement.

Latrobe v. J. H. Cross Co., D.C.Pa., 29 F.2d 210, 212.

A conclusion arrived at from external sources after weighing probability.
Conviction of the mind, arising not from actual perception or knowledge,
but by way of inference, or from evidence recieved or information derived from others.

Knowledge is an assurance of a fact or proposition founded on perception by the senses, or intuition;
while "belief" is an assurance gained by evidence,
and from other persons.
"Suspicion" is weaker than "belief," since suspicion requires real no foundation for its existence, while "belief" is necessarily based on at least assumed facts.

Cook v. Singer Sewing Mach. Co., 138 Cal.App. 418, 32 P.2d 430, 431.

Black's Law Dictionary
Fifth edition


mind parasites called Archons

The marks of the Archontic mind are hal- simulation, and krog- deception. Archons attempt to deviate us from our proper course of co-evolution with the biosphere, and undermine our reliance on other non-human terrestrial species to keep the course. They isolate us in a false anthropocentrism through paternal religious dogmas, and distract us from nature with make-believe, simulation, and artificiality.
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is there not a supreme being above us all though? A spirit that is part of who we are the heart concsiousness???
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I do not understand those that claim to be a Messiah though. To me that seems to but perpetuate the text that led us astray into worshipping Messiahs. Maybe I miss your point of the message of I am.
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The Bible is stupid, no matter how you look at it. My story proves that, it's ultra miraculous, and unlike the stupid Bible miracles, the miracles in my story could not possibly have been invented by people, and unlike the stupid Bible miracles, they are 100% documented.
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Enjoying what you guys are bringing up, gotta go now, but have lots to share later, Thanks, keep up the "Great Work" ;)
This is my day, there are many like it...but this one is mine.
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Black's Law Dictionary
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mind parasites called Archons

The marks of the Archontic mind are hal- simulation, and krog- deception. Archons attempt to deviate us from our proper course of co-evolution with the biosphere, and undermine our reliance on other non-human terrestrial species to keep the course. They isolate us in a false anthropocentrism through paternal religious dogmas, and distract us from nature with make-believe, simulation, and artificiality.
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Thank you Protean. The issue of the archons is what I am still trying to wrap my mind around. I will follow up on the book you referenced. So much of my understanding has be to employ heuristics as an artist what I also think the Gnostics were also doing.

I did a post earlier this morning on the movie Farmageddon and brought up the continued rape of earth and our consciousness of her as mother through selling renewable energy as pieces of paper on Wall Street as renewable energy credits. That we are now hedging are bets to the max on her.

Why it makes so much sense to me in the context that you are weaving in the self created as anthropocentrism. I had never tied the weave of the ‘pressing sore' Pistis Sophia endured in the lower regions to the gnostic understanding of the Archons. Though I could see the rape of earth and what she endured as the same.

What do you think of the portions of text that say Zoe and her daughter Eve threw mist in the Archon rapist eyes? I can’t yet wrap my head around it. I think that is in the Origins of the World. Could you offer me direction on things I could read that could help me piece these portions together?
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For you OP. :)


This revelation of God, the True Light, transpires in two ways, both from within us through the development and evolution of the soul, and from beyond us through spiritual influxes, through mercy and grace – it is the revelation of the Divine in a play of Being and Becoming, and in this play being and becoming are inseparable from one another, completely interdependent with one another.

Now the Holy Shekinah, Malkut, is called Nukva, and is called Kallah, and, under certain conditions she is also called Lilith. These names of the Holy Shekinah represent three distinct appearances or manifestations of the lower Shekinah, which are determined by the relationship of Shekinah, Malkut, to the Holy Sefirot beyond her, and the extent to which there is a holy vessel or vehicle that can receive her emanations and influxes. As Nukva, Daughter, implies, this is a state of immaturity or incompletion, as yet incapable of conception, gestation and birth, and it implies the manifestation of the Shekinah in a diminished or restricted state, or partial and distorted revelations of the Holy One and Light Continuum. Basically speaking, this is the Holy Shekinah “apart from her Divine Consort,” or in a state that full and true union cannot happen, and it is the state of Malkut reaching but not-reaching, having no holy vessel or vehicle to receive her full emanation and influx. Thus, Nukva cannot receive the full influxes of the Sefirot beyond her, and she is not manifest in her full glory and power, and, likewise, what she can impart is partial and incomplete, and to some extent is distorted, tainted. This reflects the revelation of the Divine we encounter in the Old Testament and the giving of the law, which is sorely tainted with cosmic ignorance, the illusion of separation, and all manner of misconceptions of God, the True Light – there is wisdom and truth in these revelations, but there is also a significant admixture of folly and falsehood, or various distortions.

Kallah, Bride, implies a very different manifestation of the Holy Shekinah – as Kallah, she is joined to her Divine Consort, receiving the influxes of the Sefirot beyond her in full, and she is able to conceive, gestate and give birth, which is to say, reaching and not-reaching she becomes able to reach, generating a holy vessel or vehicle for the reception of her influxes, the influxes of all of the Holy Sefirot within and beyond her. The holy vessel or vehicle of the Shekinah, Malkut, is the Messiah, who is the embodiment, incarnation, of her Divine Consort, and with the advent of the Messiah the influxes of the Holy Sefirot beyond Malkut are drawn into Malkut in full, the Holy Shekinah being manifest in her full glory and power, the “kingdom of heaven being spread out upon the earth,” or “the kingdom of heaven coming near.”

When Kallah is joined with her Divine Consort, the Messiah, the Human Being of Light, and she conceives, gestates and gives birth, she become Imma Shekinah, the Holy Mother (the union of the Mother and Daughter).
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is there not a supreme being above us all though? A spirit that is part of who we are the heart concsiousness???

The uncreated creator

The Source

The Monad

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The Absolute

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OP tell me simply what you understand...Who are WE is there more than one God spoken of in the Bible and other texts? (Who was Jesus' God? When he says as does others that we are one I in you and you in I and God in us (all) what is the most simplified beliefs of the gnostics? I know it has to do with knowledge, is earth just a learning place for us. We were all there before the foundation with "him" is this correct? Are we like angels are we a spark of God??? I am trying to get clarity on a few things....
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As Pop Eye said my friend I yam what I yam. I understand what I do at this moment of past to present to present to now. I have a narrative poem I can turn you onto for my deeper understandings that have come and gone for all of us throughout the centuries. Remembrance of that in which we already know in our bones is the dance we are all doing. Tapping into genetic memories. Those memories are specie memories. The more one taps in the more we all do. the 100th Monkey Theory so to speak. This thread is bringing up more things for me too. I will share more as it comes to me. The weave that Protean spoke of is a vital concept to understand first. Not so much understand in full but just look at all the narratives as a weave. Let the info in then step back from it. Sleep on it so to speak. And right back at cha.
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Good thread but Jesus is a made up story, that's obvious.
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The ancient narratives must be tied together before more can understand the text under your user name. Biases released. As I would think you know our chakras are not a story. They are the material manifestation of the astral light that resides within and without.
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mind parasites called Archons

The marks of the Archontic mind are hal- simulation, and krog- deception. Archons attempt to deviate us from our proper course of co-evolution with the biosphere, and undermine our reliance on other non-human terrestrial species to keep the course. They isolate us in a false anthropocentrism through paternal religious dogmas, and distract us from nature with make-believe, simulation, and artificiality.
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Thank you Protean. The issue of the archons is what I am still trying to wrap my mind around. I will follow up on the book you referenced. So much of my understanding has be to employ heuristics as an artist what I also think the Gnostics were also doing.

I did a post earlier this morning on the movie Farmageddon and brought up the continued rape of earth and our consciousness of her as mother through selling renewable energy as pieces of paper on Wall Street as renewable energy credits. That we are now hedging are bets to the max on her.

Why it makes so much sense to me in the context that you are weaving in the self created as anthropocentrism. I had never tied the weave of the ‘pressing sore' Pistis Sophia endured in the lower regions to the gnostic understanding of the Archons. Though I could see the rape of earth and what she endured as the same.

What do you think of the portions of text that say Zoe and her daughter Eve threw mist in the Archon rapist eyes? I can’t yet wrap my head around it. I think that is in the Origins of the World. Could you offer me direction on things I could read that could help me piece these portions together?
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And when these things had come to pass, then Pistis came and appeared over the matter of chaos, which had been expelled like an aborted fetus - since there was no spirit in it. For all of it (chaos) was limitless darkness and bottomless water. Now when Pistis saw what had resulted from her defect, she became disturbed. And the disturbance appeared, as a fearful product; it rushed to her in the chaos. She turned to it and blew into its face in the abyss, which is below all the heavens.
And when Pistis Sophia desired to cause the thing that had no spirit to be formed into a likeness and to rule over matter and over all her forces, there appeared for the first time a ruler, out of the waters, lion-like in appearance, androgynous, having great authority within him, and ignorant of whence he had come into being. Now when Pistis Sophia saw him moving about in the depth of the waters, she said to him, "Child, pass through to here," whose equivalent is 'yalda baoth'.


On the Origin of the World
("The Untitled Text")
Translated by Hans-Gebhard Bethge and Bentley Layton
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Op I very much am in agreement with you, great intuition. The descent into hell and the astral plane is very real and it is a very VERY important part of the alchemical process, but it is a challenge to say the least. One must be armed for starters with great integrity to move past the issues of the lower realms of our creation...yet, as you have stated move past them we must. We have the mayan calendar which is just one of many others im sure, that is a very accurate representation of the movement of consciousness that comes forth from our great sun...the schedule as it where; for example the parallels between the 9 levels of creations according to the mayan system that we are currently ending and the great work of alchemy and the transmutation of the base nature into spirit man(lead into gold). Thank you for sharing your work with the world and peace be unto you.
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Black's Law Dictionary
Fifth edition

mind parasites called Archons

The marks of the Archontic mind are hal- simulation, and krog- deception. Archons attempt to deviate us from our proper course of co-evolution with the biosphere, and undermine our reliance on other non-human terrestrial species to keep the course. They isolate us in a false anthropocentrism through paternal religious dogmas, and distract us from nature with make-believe, simulation, and artificiality.
 Quoting: a student of Protean thought


Thank you Protean. The issue of the archons is what I am still trying to wrap my mind around. I will follow up on the book you referenced. So much of my understanding has be to employ heuristics as an artist what I also think the Gnostics were also doing.

I did a post earlier this morning on the movie Farmageddon and brought up the continued rape of earth and our consciousness of her as mother through selling renewable energy as pieces of paper on Wall Street as renewable energy credits. That we are now hedging are bets to the max on her.

Why it makes so much sense to me in the context that you are weaving in the self created as anthropocentrism. I had never tied the weave of the ‘pressing sore' Pistis Sophia endured in the lower regions to the gnostic understanding of the Archons. Though I could see the rape of earth and what she endured as the same.

What do you think of the portions of text that say Zoe and her daughter Eve threw mist in the Archon rapist eyes? I can’t yet wrap my head around it. I think that is in the Origins of the World. Could you offer me direction on things I could read that could help me piece these portions together?
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And when these things had come to pass, then Pistis came and appeared over the matter of chaos, which had been expelled like an aborted fetus - since there was no spirit in it. For all of it (chaos) was limitless darkness and bottomless water. Now when Pistis saw what had resulted from her defect, she became disturbed. And the disturbance appeared, as a fearful product; it rushed to her in the chaos. She turned to it and blew into its face in the abyss, which is below all the heavens.
And when Pistis Sophia desired to cause the thing that had no spirit to be formed into a likeness and to rule over matter and over all her forces, there appeared for the first time a ruler, out of the waters, lion-like in appearance, androgynous, having great authority within him, and ignorant of whence he had come into being. Now when Pistis Sophia saw him moving about in the depth of the waters, she said to him, "Child, pass through to here," whose equivalent is 'yalda baoth'.


On the Origin of the World
("The Untitled Text")
Translated by Hans-Gebhard Bethge and Bentley Layton
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Yes. I will go back and look at Zoe throwing mist in their eyes again. I recall a text that calls Eve the daughter of Zoe. Find that portion to try to piece it together. The mist in their eyes issue really stumps me. So Sophia endured the defect? The defect was corrected when the sons of gods cane after Zoe too. She threw mist in their eyes and the perceived defect was corrected in our genes and now we must but remember this our inherent birthright of having no defect?
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Op I very much am in agreement with you, great intuition. The descent into hell and the astral plane is very real and it is a very VERY important part of the alchemical process, but it is a challenge to say the least. One must be armed for starters with great integrity to move past the issues of the lower realms of our creation...yet, as you have stated move past them we must. We have the mayan calendar which is just one of many others im sure, that is a very accurate representation of the movement of consciousness that comes forth from our great sun...the schedule as it where; for example the parallels between the 9 levels of creations according to the mayan system that we are currently ending and the great work of alchemy and the transmutation of the base nature into spirit man(lead into gold). Thank you for sharing your work with the world and peace be unto you.
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Peace to you too, M. Best to you.
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I shared this in another thread. Not to confuse but I will bring it over here. The puzzle runs deep all stemming from watching the underwater cams in the Gulf.

Feeling it in my bones that we had released the ancients and our remembrance of creation. I saw the gnosis of Pistis Sophia released in those pipes (my avatar).

This train of thought is my attempt to sort out the Archon info:

I dreamt of some “it” last night too. Processed..ah ha. It was so simple too. That is what I woke up with in the ah ha state. I don’t remember it now.

I will back track. Was reading and book marking stuff on methane hydrates and its compound structures. What makes the ice burn?

That lead to Archaea...single celled organism...as above is down below...and Montmorillonite clay...the petri dish...fermentation...ferminant.

Methane itself produced by methanogenic Archaea. Oldest eon is called the Archean.

Archean cratons are relatively flat, stable regions of the crust that have remained undeformed since the Precambrian, forming the ancient cores of the continents.

That of course lead to Archon...gnostic concept. In geologic lingo Archean craton is shortened to Archon.

Cratons do not show positive gravity anomalies. They don’t sink. Makes is more buoyant than the mantle around it by chemical depletion.

Archaea reproduce asexually and divide by binary fission. Mutualist of archaea is methanogen found in the human gut.

Couldn’t hold the energy. Went to sleep. Dreamt of the flash of light...connecting heaven and abyss. It was someone tied into the X chromosome.

The petri dish farted and God said let there be light.
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I shared this in another thread. Not to confuse but I will bring it over here. The puzzle runs deep all stemming from watching the underwater cams in the Gulf.

Feeling it in my bones that we had released the ancients and our remembrance of creation. I saw the gnosis of Pistis Sophia released in those pipes (my avatar).

This train of thought is my attempt to sort out the Archon info:

I dreamt of some “it” last night too. Processed..ah ha. It was so simple too. That is what I woke up with in the ah ha state. I don’t remember it now.

I will back track. Was reading and book marking stuff on methane hydrates and its compound structures. What makes the ice burn?

That lead to Archaea...single celled organism...as above is down below...and Montmorillonite clay...the petri dish...fermentation...ferminant.

Methane itself produced by methanogenic Archaea. Oldest eon is called the Archean.

Archean cratons are relatively flat, stable regions of the crust that have remained undeformed since the Precambrian, forming the ancient cores of the continents.

That of course lead to Archon...gnostic concept. In geologic lingo Archean craton is shortened to Archon.

Cratons do not show positive gravity anomalies. They don’t sink. Makes is more buoyant than the mantle around it by chemical depletion.

Archaea reproduce asexually and divide by binary fission. Mutualist of archaea is methanogen found in the human gut.

Couldn’t hold the energy. Went to sleep. Dreamt of the flash of light...connecting heaven and abyss. It was someone tied into the X chromosome.

The petri dish farted and God said let there be light.

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The constant collective conscious of genetic memory of the material manifestation of synchronistic is chronicity.
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An androgynous human being was produced, whom the Greeks call Hermaphrodites; and whose mother the Hebrews call Eve of Life (Zoe), namely, the female instructor of life. Her offspring is the creature that is lord. Afterwards, the authorities called it "Beast", so that it might lead astray their modelled creatures. The interpretation of "the beast" is "the instructor". For it was found to be the wisest of all beings.
Now, Eve is the first virgin, the one who without a husband bore her first offspring. It is she who served as her own midwife. For this reason she is held to have said:
It is I who am the part of my mother; and it is I who am the mother.
It is I who am the wife; it is I who am the virgin.
It is I who am pregnant; it is I who am the midwife.
It is I who am the one that comforts pains of travail.
It is my husband who bore me; and it is I who am his mother.
And it is he who is my father and my lord.
It is he who is my force; What he desires, he says with reason.
I am in the process of becoming; yet I have borne a man as lord.


On the Origin of the World
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The petri dish farted and God said let there be light.
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While a personally would not have put it that way I must agree that that is as proper a settlement of events as others...lol! I do agree once again with your revelations. I'll relay this about my experience with the ancients as a young man I was part of an ancient African ceremony, one not done for many many generations from what I understand. Anyway the name of the ceremony was 'bocle oya' or the return of the ancients. It was not until many years later that the true significance of the ceremony was driven home through the revelation that the ancients where now invoked to return through us. Afterwards I met 'The Great teacher, and my journey inward began in earnest. The Ancients have come now, you are simply coming to the memory of what you stored many many soul journeys ago...lol! It is a welcomed suprize to once again find the beloved...utter joy and well worth the descent in the bottomless self.

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