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Pistis Sophia Descended the Chakras So We All Could Return to the Light

 
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The petri dish farted and God said let there be light.
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While a personally would not have put it that way I must agree that that is as proper a settlement of events as others...lol! I do agree once again with your revelations. I'll relay this about my experience with the ancients as a young man I was part of an ancient African ceremony, one not done for many many generations from what I understand. Anyway the name of the ceremony was 'bocle oya' or the return of the ancients. It was not until many years later that the true significance of the ceremony was driven home through the revelation that the ancients where now invoked to return through us. Afterwards I met 'The Great teacher, and my journey inward began in earnest. The Ancients have come now, you are simply coming to the memory of what you stored many many soul journeys ago...lol! It is a welcomed suprize to once again find the beloved...utter joy and well worth the descent in the bottomless self.
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Yes I should have deleted that part out when I did the cut and paste...lol I had not yet introduced my sense of humor over here so that looked pretty out of context of the discussion over here.

I believe also that we are all reuniting with the beloved. Yes that sense you speak of has helped balance out the descent to the bottomless self. Knowing that it is real, well, that makes me want to sing praise like the Pistis Sophia.
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Enjoying what you guys are bringing up, gotta go now, but have lots to share later, Thanks, keep up the "Great Work" ;)
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For you OP. :)


This revelation of God, the True Light, transpires in two ways, both from within us through the development and evolution of the soul, and from beyond us through spiritual influxes, through mercy and grace – it is the revelation of the Divine in a play of Being and Becoming, and in this play being and becoming are inseparable from one another, completely interdependent with one another.

Now the Holy Shekinah, Malkut, is called Nukva, and is called Kallah, and, under certain conditions she is also called Lilith. These names of the Holy Shekinah represent three distinct appearances or manifestations of the lower Shekinah, which are determined by the relationship of Shekinah, Malkut, to the Holy Sefirot beyond her, and the extent to which there is a holy vessel or vehicle that can receive her emanations and influxes. As Nukva, Daughter, implies, this is a state of immaturity or incompletion, as yet incapable of conception, gestation and birth, and it implies the manifestation of the Shekinah in a diminished or restricted state, or partial and distorted revelations of the Holy One and Light Continuum. Basically speaking, this is the Holy Shekinah “apart from her Divine Consort,” or in a state that full and true union cannot happen, and it is the state of Malkut reaching but not-reaching, having no holy vessel or vehicle to receive her full emanation and influx. Thus, Nukva cannot receive the full influxes of the Sefirot beyond her, and she is not manifest in her full glory and power, and, likewise, what she can impart is partial and incomplete, and to some extent is distorted, tainted. This reflects the revelation of the Divine we encounter in the Old Testament and the giving of the law, which is sorely tainted with cosmic ignorance, the illusion of separation, and all manner of misconceptions of God, the True Light – there is wisdom and truth in these revelations, but there is also a significant admixture of folly and falsehood, or various distortions.

Kallah, Bride, implies a very different manifestation of the Holy Shekinah – as Kallah, she is joined to her Divine Consort, receiving the influxes of the Sefirot beyond her in full, and she is able to conceive, gestate and give birth, which is to say, reaching and not-reaching she becomes able to reach, generating a holy vessel or vehicle for the reception of her influxes, the influxes of all of the Holy Sefirot within and beyond her. The holy vessel or vehicle of the Shekinah, Malkut, is the Messiah, who is the embodiment, incarnation, of her Divine Consort, and with the advent of the Messiah the influxes of the Holy Sefirot beyond Malkut are drawn into Malkut in full, the Holy Shekinah being manifest in her full glory and power, the “kingdom of heaven being spread out upon the earth,” or “the kingdom of heaven coming near.”

When Kallah is joined with her Divine Consort, the Messiah, the Human Being of Light, and she conceives, gestates and gives birth, she become Imma Shekinah, the Holy Mother (the union of the Mother and Daughter).
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is the above Kabbalah?? Is there a consort for each? IS there a one that split and becomes a female and a male, yet they are the same??? Sorry trying to understand a few things (ha ha many things!)
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I need to go read and nap and breath now and reflect upon the verses Protean is teaching. Sometimes it feels like just one more bite of the apple so to speak and then... I leave you all with one of my favorite artist.

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is there not a supreme being above us all though? A spirit that is part of who we are the heart concsiousness???

The uncreated creator

The Source

The Monad

The One

The Absolute

Bythos

The ineffable parent
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agreed! Thanks!
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OP tell me simply what you understand...Who are WE is there more than one God spoken of in the Bible and other texts? (Who was Jesus' God? When he says as does others that we are one I in you and you in I and God in us (all) what is the most simplified beliefs of the gnostics? I know it has to do with knowledge, is earth just a learning place for us. We were all there before the foundation with "him" is this correct? Are we like angels are we a spark of God??? I am trying to get clarity on a few things....
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As Pop Eye said my friend I yam what I yam. I understand what I do at this moment of past to present to present to now. I have a narrative poem I can turn you onto for my deeper understandings that have come and gone for all of us throughout the centuries. Remembrance of that in which we already know in our bones is the dance we are all doing. Tapping into genetic memories. Those memories are specie memories. The more one taps in the more we all do. the 100th Monkey Theory so to speak. This thread is bringing up more things for me too. I will share more as it comes to me. The weave that Protean spoke of is a vital concept to understand first. Not so much understand in full but just look at all the narratives as a weave. Let the info in then step back from it. Sleep on it so to speak. And right back at cha.
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YES! EXACTLY I keep hoping to tap into the ones who have a lot to share, alot they RE-membered! Thanks!
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Black's Law Dictionary
Fifth edition

mind parasites called Archons

The marks of the Archontic mind are hal- simulation, and krog- deception. Archons attempt to deviate us from our proper course of co-evolution with the biosphere, and undermine our reliance on other non-human terrestrial species to keep the course. They isolate us in a false anthropocentrism through paternal religious dogmas, and distract us from nature with make-believe, simulation, and artificiality.
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Thank you Protean. The issue of the archons is what I am still trying to wrap my mind around. I will follow up on the book you referenced. So much of my understanding has be to employ heuristics as an artist what I also think the Gnostics were also doing.

I did a post earlier this morning on the movie Farmageddon and brought up the continued rape of earth and our consciousness of her as mother through selling renewable energy as pieces of paper on Wall Street as renewable energy credits. That we are now hedging are bets to the max on her.

Why it makes so much sense to me in the context that you are weaving in the self created as anthropocentrism. I had never tied the weave of the ‘pressing sore' Pistis Sophia endured in the lower regions to the gnostic understanding of the Archons. Though I could see the rape of earth and what she endured as the same.

What do you think of the portions of text that say Zoe and her daughter Eve threw mist in the Archon rapist eyes? I can’t yet wrap my head around it. I think that is in the Origins of the World. Could you offer me direction on things I could read that could help me piece these portions together?
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And when these things had come to pass, then Pistis came and appeared over the matter of chaos, which had been expelled like an aborted fetus - since there was no spirit in it. For all of it (chaos) was limitless darkness and bottomless water. Now when Pistis saw what had resulted from her defect, she became disturbed. And the disturbance appeared, as a fearful product; it rushed to her in the chaos. She turned to it and blew into its face in the abyss, which is below all the heavens.
And when Pistis Sophia desired to cause the thing that had no spirit to be formed into a likeness and to rule over matter and over all her forces, there appeared for the first time a ruler, out of the waters, lion-like in appearance, androgynous, having great authority within him, and ignorant of whence he had come into being. Now when Pistis Sophia saw him moving about in the depth of the waters, she said to him, "Child, pass through to here," whose equivalent is 'yalda baoth'.


On the Origin of the World
("The Untitled Text")
Translated by Hans-Gebhard Bethge and Bentley Layton
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Yes. I will go back and look at Zoe throwing mist in their eyes again. I recall a text that calls Eve the daughter of Zoe. Find that portion to try to piece it together. The mist in their eyes issue really stumps me. So Sophia endured the defect? The defect was corrected when the sons of gods cane after Zoe too. She threw mist in their eyes and the perceived defect was corrected in our genes and now we must but remember this our inherent birthright of having no defect?
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would this be referencing the third eye, the pineal gland??
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An androgynous human being was produced, whom the Greeks call Hermaphrodites; and whose mother the Hebrews call Eve of Life (Zoe), namely, the female instructor of life. Her offspring is the creature that is lord. Afterwards, the authorities called it "Beast", so that it might lead astray their modelled creatures. The interpretation of "the beast" is "the instructor". For it was found to be the wisest of all beings.
Now, Eve is the first virgin, the one who without a husband bore her first offspring. It is she who served as her own midwife. For this reason she is held to have said:
It is I who am the part of my mother; and it is I who am the mother.
It is I who am the wife; it is I who am the virgin.
It is I who am pregnant; it is I who am the midwife.
It is I who am the one that comforts pains of travail.
It is my husband who bore me; and it is I who am his mother.
And it is he who is my father and my lord.
It is he who is my force; What he desires, he says with reason.
I am in the process of becoming; yet I have borne a man as lord.


On the Origin of the World
("The Untitled Text")
Translated by Hans-Gebhard Bethge and Bentley Layton
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was Lillith not before Eve? This beast is it the serpent or the one called JEhovah or what??
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The petri dish farted and God said let there be light.
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While a personally would not have put it that way I must agree that that is as proper a settlement of events as others...lol! I do agree once again with your revelations. I'll relay this about my experience with the ancients as a young man I was part of an ancient African ceremony, one not done for many many generations from what I understand. Anyway the name of the ceremony was 'bocle oya' or the return of the ancients. It was not until many years later that the true significance of the ceremony was driven home through the revelation that the ancients where now invoked to return through us. Afterwards I met 'The Great teacher, and my journey inward began in earnest. The Ancients have come now, you are simply coming to the memory of what you stored many many soul journeys ago...lol! It is a welcomed suprize to once again find the beloved...utter joy and well worth the descent in the bottomless self.
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The ancients then are taking up residence in these bodies at this end of an age then?? Among others?? Or am I misunderstanding you completely??
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Ok...and why the fuck would I want to do this chakra ascenscion descending astral light stufff?
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Thank you Protean. The issue of the archons is what I am still trying to wrap my mind around. I will follow up on the book you referenced. So much of my understanding has be to employ heuristics as an artist what I also think the Gnostics were also doing.

I did a post earlier this morning on the movie Farmageddon and brought up the continued rape of earth and our consciousness of her as mother through selling renewable energy as pieces of paper on Wall Street as renewable energy credits. That we are now hedging are bets to the max on her.

Why it makes so much sense to me in the context that you are weaving in the self created as anthropocentrism. I had never tied the weave of the ‘pressing sore' Pistis Sophia endured in the lower regions to the gnostic understanding of the Archons. Though I could see the rape of earth and what she endured as the same.

What do you think of the portions of text that say Zoe and her daughter Eve threw mist in the Archon rapist eyes? I can’t yet wrap my head around it. I think that is in the Origins of the World. Could you offer me direction on things I could read that could help me piece these portions together?
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And when these things had come to pass, then Pistis came and appeared over the matter of chaos, which had been expelled like an aborted fetus - since there was no spirit in it. For all of it (chaos) was limitless darkness and bottomless water. Now when Pistis saw what had resulted from her defect, she became disturbed. And the disturbance appeared, as a fearful product; it rushed to her in the chaos. She turned to it and blew into its face in the abyss, which is below all the heavens.
And when Pistis Sophia desired to cause the thing that had no spirit to be formed into a likeness and to rule over matter and over all her forces, there appeared for the first time a ruler, out of the waters, lion-like in appearance, androgynous, having great authority within him, and ignorant of whence he had come into being. Now when Pistis Sophia saw him moving about in the depth of the waters, she said to him, "Child, pass through to here," whose equivalent is 'yalda baoth'.


On the Origin of the World
("The Untitled Text")
Translated by Hans-Gebhard Bethge and Bentley Layton
 Quoting: a student of Protean thought


Yes. I will go back and look at Zoe throwing mist in their eyes again. I recall a text that calls Eve the daughter of Zoe. Find that portion to try to piece it together. The mist in their eyes issue really stumps me. So Sophia endured the defect? The defect was corrected when the sons of gods cane after Zoe too. She threw mist in their eyes and the perceived defect was corrected in our genes and now we must but remember this our inherent birthright of having no defect?
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would this be referencing the third eye, the pineal gland??
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I can’t from keep responding. Yes, never saw that in the correction of the so called defect. What is above is below! The Vesica Piscis. They are the same shape and hold the understanding of one in all ancient lore. She was raped in the lower regions but threw mist in their eyes so they could not see what she sees through our third eye. They defiled the carnal but not the spirit. Good catch!
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Ok...and why the fuck would I want to do this chakra ascenscion descending astral light stufff?
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I quest because I do not want to stay trapped in resentment for the damage inflicted on myself and humanity as a whole by believing we are defects. Trying to turn resentment into praise is a difficult feat. Understanding the narrative of Pistis Sophia has helped with that. As for others reasons or the one you might need I do not know.
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Ok...and why the fuck would I want to do this chakra ascenscion descending astral light stufff?
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To live your own waking dream rather than some else's nightmare.
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The petri dish farted and God said let there be light.
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While a personally would not have put it that way I must agree that that is as proper a settlement of events as others...lol! I do agree once again with your revelations. I'll relay this about my experience with the ancients as a young man I was part of an ancient African ceremony, one not done for many many generations from what I understand. Anyway the name of the ceremony was 'bocle oya' or the return of the ancients. It was not until many years later that the true significance of the ceremony was driven home through the revelation that the ancients where now invoked to return through us. Afterwards I met 'The Great teacher, and my journey inward began in earnest. The Ancients have come now, you are simply coming to the memory of what you stored many many soul journeys ago...lol! It is a welcomed suprize to once again find the beloved...utter joy and well worth the descent in the bottomless self.
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The ancients then are taking up residence in these bodies at this end of an age then?? Among others?? Or am I misunderstanding you completely??
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Perhaps they have taken up residence in these bodies throughout many ages. Golden age and Renaissance in the arts comes to mind. Perhaps some ancients choose to return through bodily form at different times. It would seem to me that since the rape of mother earth as an environmental reality is high now perhaps many chose to return at this particular time. We are talking 6000 years here of trying to throw off the shackles of believing we were kicked out of the garden in the first place.
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Then the authorities were informed that their modelled form was alive and had arisen, and they were greatly troubled. They sent seven archangels to see what had happened. They came to Adam.
When they saw Eve talking to him, they said to one another, "What sort of thing is this luminous woman? For she resembles that likeness which appeared to us in the light.
Now come, let us lay hold of her and cast her seed into her, so that when she becomes soiled she may not be able to ascend into her light. Rather, those whom she bears will be under our charge. But let us not tell Adam, for he is not one of us. Rather let us bring a deep sleep over him. And let us instruct him in his sleep to the effect that she came from his rib, in order that his wife may obey, and he may be lord over her."

Then Eve, being a force, laughed at their decision. She put mist into their eyes and secretly left her likeness with Adam. She entered the tree of knowledge and remained there. And they pursued her, and she revealed to them that she had gone into the tree and become a tree.
Then, entering a great state of fear, the blind creatures fled.

Afterwards, when they had recovered from the daze, they came to Adam; and seeing the likeness of this woman with him, they were greatly disturbed, thinking it was she that was the true Eve. And they acted rashly; they came up to her and seized her and cast their seed upon her. They did so wickedly, defiling not only in natural ways but also in foul ways, defiling first the seal of her voice - that had spoken with them, saying, "What is it that exists before you?" - intending to defile those who might say at the consummation (of the age) that they had been born of the true man through verbal expression.
And they erred, not knowing that it was their own body that they had defiled: it was the likeness that the authorities and their angels defiled in every way.

First she was pregnant with Abel, by the first ruler. And it was by the seven authorities and their angels that she bore the other offspring.
And all this came to pass according to the forethought of the prime parent, so that the first mother might bear within her every seed, being mixed and being fitted to the fate of the universe and its configurations, and to Justice.
A prearranged plan came into effect regarding Eve, so that the modelled forms of the authorities might become enclosures of the light, whereupon it would condemn them through their modelled forms.

Now the first Adam, (Adam) of Light, is spirit-endowed and appeared on the first day.
The second Adam is soul-endowed and appeared on the sixth day, which is called Aphrodite.
The third Adam is a creature of the earth, that is, the man of the law, and he appeared on the eighth day [...] the tranquility of poverty, which is called
"The Day of the Sun" (Sunday).
And the progeny of the earthly Adam became numerous and was completed, and produced within itself every kind of scientific information of the soul-endowed Adam.
But all were in ignorance.


On the Origin of the World
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Translated by Hans-Gebhard Bethge and Bentley Layton

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Thank you, Protean, for finding it.

So is my response regarding the poster’s insight about the pineal gland on target regarding the issue of the mist?

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I hope you do not mind but I am asking you questions as a student. I have been seeking deeper knowledge by those that have been trained in these matters.

I have only been self trained and the more I share about it as of late the more I want to make sure I understand things before I continue to speak.
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Someone one on voice chat said earlier that there was a thread around here recently that showed a pic of the synapses and the brain that looked like space? Did anyone see it or know the link? As above is as below.

I would like to see a pic of this nervous system that exist in our gut too to compare all three. I have also just recently been thinking about the umbilical cord as a black hole. It would trap and sustain the light for the fetus.
The term derives from the Ancient Greek words, meta, meaning beyond or after, and noia, meaning perception or understanding or mind.
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Here is another tack on the same breeze-

A Gnostic tale,
based on the sacred truths in ancient sources during the manifestation of the Christos. In those days, among the many Gnostics, there arose a teaching of a most profound nature which you will perhaps find intriguing. Teachers such as Valentius and others
received visions of the divine Sophia
and told sacred stories about Her origins, fall and redemption.


The Fore-Creation,
invisible, without form or gender, all-pervasive, filling the depths and heights of what was and which is,
desiring to manifest an inward potential gave birth to many holy dyads...sacred pairs,
the first, Abyss and Fore-thought.
A desire arose in Fore-thought meditating on Silence
who conceived and gave birth to twins:
the first visible female form called Truth and the first visible male form called Mind,
in turn they together gave birth to Life and Word...
Life was the form-mother of the Pleroma and Word was the form-father of those manifest within The Pleroma.
The Pleroma is the fullness of the spiritual world, uninfluenced by matter, energy or light.
Many other dyads were born, called Aeons, or sacred powers,
the last of which was the divine Sophia, or Holy Wisdom.
Of all the Aeons, the divine Sophia desired most intensely to know the origins of Her own creation,
The nature of the Fore-Creator.
Mind told Her that such knowledge was impossible, nevertheless,
Sophia began to search high and low,
after Mind was restrained by Silence.
None of the Aeons comprehended the Fore-Creation other than Truth
whose perfect reflection was a transparent presence invisible to Sophia.
She separated Herself from Her consort,
ranged the vastness of the uncreated Immensity, and far out-distanced all the other Aeons.
Sensing her separation from the other Aeons,
lacking a clear knowledge of the Fore-Creator,
She felt pain and sorrow, She wept and grieved deeply,
She desired with all Her Heart
to comprehend the vast, unending totality of the Fore-Creator,
also called the Abyss.
But the Abyss was vast beyond comprehending,
Her sorrow increased and Her passions flowed out of Her in waves
She risked utter dissolution into the Abyss
as She radiated forth a turbulence into the stillness of Immensity.
Suddenly, She encountered Horos, the Limit, Boundary,
and understood that the Fore-Creation was unknowable, holy and profound,
beyond the comprehension of Mind, Word or even Truth.
This was The First Gnosis.
Now, the manifestations of Her intentions and passions remained as viable presences in the Immensity,
they overflowed the Pleroma taking on a more substantive appearance.
Sophia beheld these manifestations, the consequences of Her passions,
and was again stirred with grief, fear, uncertainty and sorrow
because She understood that these were the manifestations of Her own ignorance concerning the Fore-creation.
A dim, barely light-like haze began to appear, first manifestation in the Primal Void,
the concatenation of passion and desire unfulfilled, slowly evolving into manifest forms--the stirrings of light, energy and Chaos.
All the Aeons together were concerned about the appearance of Chaos
They, with the divine Sophia, prayed in depth and a new dyad was manifested:
Christos and Holy Spirit, his female counterpart.
Together, they calmed the Aeons and soothed their fears,
also instructing them in the incomprehensibleness of the Fore-Creation
while simultaneously revealing to them the inner unity, harmony and illumination of the Pleroma--
this was The Second Gnosis.
Yet, the haze and proto-forms of Chaos remained
among these emerging forms was an image of Sophia, called the Lower Wisdom,
for She had divided Herself in the passion of her search and now, the Lower Wisdom abided in the midst of Chaos.
This Lower Wisdom desired to return and be united with Her own Higher Self,
rather than remain trapped in Her passions and desires
She felt the emanations of the Holy Spirit and the Christos,
They manifest their healing and harmony within the Pleroma,
She began to seek a way to return to the primal harmony and illumination of the Second Gnosis.
Lower Wisdom discovered that She was bound by Limit
and could not return or ascend to the Pleroma,
She once again grieved and sorrowed.
And from this second grief, from the waves and energy of that sorrow,
the first material substances began to form, divide and align themselves in patterns
of light, dimness and darkening matter.
Then the Aeons together ask the Christos to assist the Lower Sophia
He manifested in the lower world of proto-matter as Yeshu'a,
and soothed Her and comforted Her
revealing to Her all the many luminous beings that manifested in the Void
as their spiritual companions.
But the proto-matter of the Void was now mixed with passion, desire and sorrow,
and the luminous lights of the Void were the spiritual presences inherent to the newly forming matter,
inherent to each and every elemental substance,
the combinations and the consequent appearances.

Thus the spiritual qualities of matter are the inherent emanations of Wisdom
stimulated through the manifestation of Christos and the Holy Spirit.
And Wisdom was reunited with Her own Higher Self,
perceiving the holiness of the manifestation,
seeing clearly both the psychic and material character of those manifestations,
gave birth to one last entity--called
"Father of the Material Realm" or the Maker and creator of the Lower Visible Realms.
This Father God created then, seven realms,
each more material than the last,
until finally this human world was formed
and the beings of this world rose and walked, crawled or flew through the skies.
But the Father God was vain and jealous, angry and forbidding,
ignorant of the power of the higher Aeons, of the Pleroma, of his own Mother,
The Divine Sophia.
The Divine Sophia instructed him and opened his mind to Truth,
In his amazement he refused to divulge these mysteries to those of his own creation.
Being a god of the material, social and psychic order,
it was not possible for him to be a teacher of the higher mysteries,
Sophia was dismayed by his wrath, anger and jealousy.
So when he created the first human beings,
She was there and secretly, without his knowing,
She gave to them the gift of the Holy Spirit as a divine spark in every human heart.
In the Garden of Eden, created by the lower Father God,
Eve was the manifestation of the Lower Wisdom
the serpent or snake of the tree, was actually the Christos
who urged Eve to eat the Fruit of the Tree of Knowledge that she might attain the true Gnosis or knowledge of her origins
to realize the Higher Sophia in perfect illumination and bliss.
But the Father God, discovering that this secret teaching was disturbing his supremacy in the lower realms grew angry
and cast them out of the garden and into the suffering of the world.
Yet each and every descendent has this spark and the potential to recover the true Gnosis.
For this reason, The Christos was made manifest as a human being,
to bring the gift of the Holy Spirit, in all her female power and capacity,
to liberate those who cast free from the illusions of the material and psychic realms
to ascend through visions of power and knowledge to the Higher Gnosis,
to reunite the lower and higher self,
to attain to visionary truth and perfect transparency.
The Divine Sophia is the manifest presence of that vision, and this tale,
one of Her symbolic forms.
The snake, an image of Higher Wisdom,
is a true teacher that reconciles the desires and passions of knowledge with higher insight,
overcomes the limitations of a jealous and demanding lesser god and transmits the teachings of the Divine Sophia.
In this way the faithful attain peace and the passionate, union, holiness and joy.

The third eye perception

Pineal activation

Kudalini

Tantric Intimacy

Pressing on Qi

Shamanic use of:

LSD

Sacred Mushroom

Mescalito

Ayuasca


We are aware, we just don't know 'IT'.

Due in fact by indoctrination starting when a child first hears the word NO.

Gnosis means "knowledge"; a specific kind of intimate knowledge, the way lovers know one another. The root of gnosis hides in the more familiar words recognize, cunning, and narrative. For spiritual seekers, gnosis is deep understanding of the Divine and our relationship to it. Dutch scholar Gilles Quispel explained it simply as "knowledge of the heart"; quite simply, gnosis is insight.

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"knowledge of the heart"

Follow Your Heart, it is Smarter Than You Think

17 Mar 2011 - 9:13am by Rebecca Cherry

Recently, Neurophysicists have been astonished to discover that the Heart is more an organ of intelligence, than (merely) the bodies' main pumping station. More than half of the Heart is actually composed of neurons of the very same nature as those that make up the cerebral system.
Joseph Chilton-Pearce, author of The Biology of Transcendence, calls it "the major biological apparatus within us and the seat of our greatest intelligence." The Heart is also the source of the body's strongest electromagnetic field. Each heart cell is unique in that it not only pulsates in synchrony with all the other heart cells, but also produces an electromagnetic signal that radiates out beyond the cell. An EEG that measures brain waves shows that the electromagnetic signals from the heart are so much stronger than brain waves, that a reading of the heart's frequency spectrum can be taken from three feet away from the body...without placing electrodes on it!
The Heart's electromagnetic frequency arcs out from the Heart and back in the form of a torus field. The axis of this Heart torus extends from the pelvic floor to the top of the skull, and the whole field is holographic, meaning that information about it can be read from each and every point in the torus.
The Hearts' torus electromagnetic field is not the only source that emits this type of electromagnetic field. Every atom emits the same torus field. The Earth is also at the center of a torus, so is the solar system and even our galaxy...and all are holographic.
Scientists believe there is a good possibility that there is only one universal torus encompassing an infinite number of interacting, holographic tori within its spectrum. Because electromagnetic torus fields are holographic, it is more than likely that the sum total of our Universe is present within the frequency spectrum of a single torus.
This means that each one of us is connected to the entire Universe and as such, can access all the information within it at any given moment. When we get quiet and access what we hold in our Hearts, we are literally connecting to the limitless supply and Wisdom of the Universe, thereby enabling what we perceive as "miracles" to enter into our lives.
When we disconnect and shut down the Heart's innate wisdom of Love-based thinking, the ego-based intellect takes over and operates independently of the Heart, and we revert to a survival mentality based on fear, greed, power, and control.
In this way, we come to believe that we are separate, our perception of life shifts into one of limitation and scarcity, and one in which we must fight in order to survive.
This amazing organ, that we often time ignore, neglect and build walls around, is where we can find our strength, our faith, our courage and our compassion, enabling our higher emotional intelligence that can, if we allow it, guide us through our lives.
We must now switch the gears out of the fear-based mental state that we have been taught to believe in, and move into Heart Centered living. For this transformation to take place, one must learn to meditate, "go into your Heart" and access the inner wisdom of the Universe.
It is the only way, it is THE WAY.
As each one of us begins this quiet revolution of living from the Heart, we will begin to see it reflected in our lives and in our World.
This is how each one of us will create change in the world, create Peace, create Harmony and Balance, and in this way, will we all create the New World Paradigm of Heaven on Earth.
~~~~in love and spirit, sensi


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Follow Your Heart, it is Smarter Than You Think

17 Mar 2011 - 9:13am by Rebecca Cherry

Recently, Neurophysicists have been astonished to discover that the Heart is more an organ of intelligence, than (merely) the bodies' main pumping station. More than half of the Heart is actually composed of neurons of the very same nature as those that make up the cerebral system.
Joseph Chilton-Pearce, author of The Biology of Transcendence, calls it "the major biological apparatus within us and the seat of our greatest intelligence." The Heart is also the source of the body's strongest electromagnetic field. Each heart cell is unique in that it not only pulsates in synchrony with all the other heart cells, but also produces an electromagnetic signal that radiates out beyond the cell. An EEG that measures brain waves shows that the electromagnetic signals from the heart are so much stronger than brain waves, that a reading of the heart's frequency spectrum can be taken from three feet away from the body...without placing electrodes on it!
The Heart's electromagnetic frequency arcs out from the Heart and back in the form of a torus field. The axis of this Heart torus extends from the pelvic floor to the top of the skull, and the whole field is holographic, meaning that information about it can be read from each and every point in the torus.
The Hearts' torus electromagnetic field is not the only source that emits this type of electromagnetic field. Every atom emits the same torus field. The Earth is also at the center of a torus, so is the solar system and even our galaxy...and all are holographic.
Scientists believe there is a good possibility that there is only one universal torus encompassing an infinite number of interacting, holographic tori within its spectrum. Because electromagnetic torus fields are holographic, it is more than likely that the sum total of our Universe is present within the frequency spectrum of a single torus.
This means that each one of us is connected to the entire Universe and as such, can access all the information within it at any given moment. When we get quiet and access what we hold in our Hearts, we are literally connecting to the limitless supply and Wisdom of the Universe, thereby enabling what we perceive as "miracles" to enter into our lives.
When we disconnect and shut down the Heart's innate wisdom of Love-based thinking, the ego-based intellect takes over and operates independently of the Heart, and we revert to a survival mentality based on fear, greed, power, and control.
In this way, we come to believe that we are separate, our perception of life shifts into one of limitation and scarcity, and one in which we must fight in order to survive.
This amazing organ, that we often time ignore, neglect and build walls around, is where we can find our strength, our faith, our courage and our compassion, enabling our higher emotional intelligence that can, if we allow it, guide us through our lives.
We must now switch the gears out of the fear-based mental state that we have been taught to believe in, and move into Heart Centered living. For this transformation to take place, one must learn to meditate, "go into your Heart" and access the inner wisdom of the Universe.
It is the only way, it is THE WAY.
As each one of us begins this quiet revolution of living from the Heart, we will begin to see it reflected in our lives and in our World.
This is how each one of us will create change in the world, create Peace, create Harmony and Balance, and in this way, will we all create the New World Paradigm of Heaven on Earth.
~~~~in love and spirit, sensi


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Someone one on voice chat said earlier that there was a thread around here recently that showed a pic of the synapses and the brain that looked like space? Did anyone see it or know the link? As above is as below.

I would like to see a pic of this nervous system that exist in our gut too to compare all three. I have also just recently been thinking about the umbilical cord as a black hole. It would trap and sustain the light for the fetus.
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I think this might be what you're looking for...


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The structure of a neuron and it's dendrites as compared to the scale of metagalactic strings and superclusters (tens of thousands of galaxies make up a super cluster)
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Someone one on voice chat said earlier that there was a thread around here recently that showed a pic of the synapses and the brain that looked like space? Did anyone see it or know the link? As above is as below.

I would like to see a pic of this nervous system that exist in our gut too to compare all three. I have also just recently been thinking about the umbilical cord as a black hole. It would trap and sustain the light for the fetus.
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love this vid...it shows your comparison...

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Someone one on voice chat said earlier that there was a thread around here recently that showed a pic of the synapses and the brain that looked like space? Did anyone see it or know the link? As above is as below.

I would like to see a pic of this nervous system that exist in our gut too to compare all three. I have also just recently been thinking about the umbilical cord as a black hole. It would trap and sustain the light for the fetus.
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love this vid...it shows your comparison...


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That makes me want to cry tears of awe. hf
The term derives from the Ancient Greek words, meta, meaning beyond or after, and noia, meaning perception or understanding or mind.
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Someone one on voice chat said earlier that there was a thread around here recently that showed a pic of the synapses and the brain that looked like space? Did anyone see it or know the link? As above is as below.

I would like to see a pic of this nervous system that exist in our gut too to compare all three. I have also just recently been thinking about the umbilical cord as a black hole. It would trap and sustain the light for the fetus.
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I think this might be what you're looking for...


[link to www.google.com]

The structure of a neuron and it's dendrites as compared to the scale of metagalactic strings and superclusters (tens of thousands of galaxies make up a super cluster)
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Thank you for finding that. Did you see the vid?

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Someone one on voice chat said earlier that there was a thread around here recently that showed a pic of the synapses and the brain that looked like space? Did anyone see it or know the link? As above is as below.

I would like to see a pic of this nervous system that exist in our gut too to compare all three. I have also just recently been thinking about the umbilical cord as a black hole. It would trap and sustain the light for the fetus.
 Quoting: A Muse Me

I think this might be what you're looking for...


[link to www.google.com]

The structure of a neuron and it's dendrites as compared to the scale of metagalactic strings and superclusters (tens of thousands of galaxies make up a super cluster)
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Thank you for finding that. Did you see the vid?
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Not yet hf
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Now I watched the vid. Truly awesome and magnanimous what we find ourselves in the midst of...
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Now I watched the vid. Truly awesome and magnanimous what we find ourselves in the midst of...
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Mist of or midst of? Six of one half dozen of another. I suppose.

So nice of the poster to find that for everyone.
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Now I watched the vid. Truly awesome and magnanimous what we find ourselves in the midst of...
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Mist of or midst of? Six of one half dozen of another. I suppose.

So nice of the poster to find that for everyone.
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Both =)

Refering to the vid, finding ourselves in the midst of a self recursive eternal living fractal unison.
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Now I watched the vid. Truly awesome and magnanimous what we find ourselves in the midst of...
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Mist of or midst of? Six of one half dozen of another. I suppose.

So nice of the poster to find that for everyone.
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Both =)

Refering to the vid, finding ourselves in the midst of a self recursive eternal living fractal unison.
 Quoting: Xisuthros Rex


Still trying to integrate the fractal info. Think I will download some software and try my hand at the fractal art and see if I can intuit all this out that way.
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Check it out. Looks like the Tree of Life. The Gnostics were clever they were trying and succeeding in tying it all together at the same time. They were brilliant. No wonder their writings were left out. The utter simplicity of all of it is mind-boggling awe.

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