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I am not trying to scream the sky is falling - this is an honest observation that perhaps others who know more, can help me with.

I have been checking on the NZ volcanoes since our Geonet advised us in May that it looked like Ruapehu was awakening. They have since said that all has calmed down i.e. lake temps cooling.

However, the extra things they check on i.e. lake temps wouldn't be very easy to do through winter so we haven't had any extra updates for the past 3/4 months.

I can only check on the drums and charts provided on the Geonet site.

For the past two days there has been evidence of some sort of explosion (obviously small) but it is not a usual thing you see on the drums.

Today, another sort of explosion and/or quake happened. So I think its time to have a thread that kiwis can come to and add their 2 cents as to what is going on.

Below is a link to todays drum showing some sort of action.

[link to www.geonet.org.nz]

This is a link to two examples that try and explain what these seismos are picking up. The above could be an explosion or a quake swarm.

This is an explosion example:
[link to www.geonet.org.nz]

This is a swarm example:

[link to www.geonet.org.nz]


On checking all other drums in the area there is no sign of a quake - which points me towards an explosion.

The other interesting thing. Is that both drums for Ruapehu and Tongariro show no wind noise disturbance, whilst Nguarahoe shows heavy disturbance. (For those are are not kiwis these three volcanoes stand in a row with Nguarahoe in the middle). I hope it is wind and not harmonic.

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Good timing Bro ! we are luck/unlucky we have so many volcaoes in a relatively small mass of land to monitor, especially as many are active or recently active in the geological time frame.
Good post, will be following your thread closely !
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Good timing Bro ! we are luck/unlucky we have so many volcaoes in a relatively small mass of land to monitor, especially as many are active or recently active in the geological time frame.
Good post, will be following your thread closely !
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Hi Smiling. Good thread. Don't forget the tsunami buoy just off your south west coast which keeps going into event mode. Something must be happening under the ocean there, for it to keep doing that.
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Any smell of sulphure? Frequent headache? Dizziness? Long dream/nightmare? Agressiveness? Sore eyes? Forgetting names of your chilldren and wife's birthday? Off to work without wearing your andy? If you experience these things, then get ready for the shaking:)
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Isn't Ruapehu part of the Taupo volcanic zone? Could taupo be awakening? I hope not..

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Any smell of sulphure? Frequent headache? Dizziness? Long dream/nightmare? Agressiveness? Sore eyes? Forgetting names of your chilldren and wife's birthday? Off to work without wearing your andy? If you experience these things, then get ready for the shaking:)
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Yes to the sulphur smell, see other thread
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I just discovered that Geonet has a facebook page - so I joined and asked the question. They got back pretty quick actually.

At this point, they think it is noise. Due to so much action going on up there with skiing they find it hard to pinpoint these things. They think it might be explosions for avalanche prevention or maybe fixing a chair lift.

Doubt its a chair lift as we would be seeing a lot more noise interference up there.

Avalanche-prevention explosions may be right as there would have been a dump of snow up there in the past couple of days. Haven't seen it before - but then I may have been looking at the wrong time.

Will keep a watch and see. I suspect Geonet are watching too.
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Isn't Ruapehu part of the Taupo volcanic zone? Could taupo be awakening? I hope not..

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The whole planet is experiencing an unprecedented increase of volcanic activity.

Do u follow Gabe and ElQ's threads about this?
They are real informative.
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Hi Smiling. Good thread. Don't forget the tsunami buoy just off your south west coast which keeps going into event mode. Something must be happening under the ocean there, for it to keep doing that.
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I only had a quick look at that a couple of days ago. It is in a spot where we have had at least 4 big quakes (7+) in the past few years. Then again, it is also in the Southern Ocean (or is that the Southern Tasman?) and we know how big the waves can get in that ocean.

If another big quake happened there I wouldn't be at all surprised.
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Any smell of sulphure? Frequent headache? Dizziness? Long dream/nightmare? Agressiveness? Sore eyes? Forgetting names of your chilldren and wife's birthday? Off to work without wearing your andy? If you experience these things, then get ready for the shaking:)
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Lol funny you should say that. Thought I'd been reading too much GLP when I got a sniff of something Rotorua-ish outside the other day. My husband smelt it too (Hutt Valley) though it was very faint. I also forgot my own birthday today - wondered why my husband and son were waking me up with big hugs and kisses.
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Isn't Ruapehu part of the Taupo volcanic zone? Could taupo be awakening? I hope not..

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 Quoting: Kimchi


If Taupo was awakening there would be quakes around Turangi and under the lake. Ruapehu is its own monster. Would much rather Ruapehu thanks!
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Ks,
Could we also record here, all the quakes offshore and at kermadec that geonet dont list?
They appear on various other quake monitoring sites
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Happy birthday to u!hf
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Ks,
Could we also record here, all the quakes offshore and at kermadec that geonet dont list?
They appear on various other quake monitoring sites
 Quoting: Tauranga


You can do whatever you want. We have a lot of action in this part of the world that isn't picked up globally. This thread should be used to all kiwis and Aussies who notice strange volcanic/quake stuff - so that all can discuss it. All the way up to the Pacific Islands i.e. Vanuatu is a huge concern for all of us.
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Happy birthday to u!hf
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LOl - thanks its a strange feeling when you forget your own birthday.
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Ks,
Could we also record here, all the quakes offshore and at kermadec that geonet dont list?
They appear on various other quake monitoring sites
 Quoting: Tauranga


You can do whatever you want. We have a lot of action in this part of the world that isn't picked up globally. This thread should be used to all kiwis and Aussies who notice strange volcanic/quake stuff - so that all can discuss it. All the way up to the Pacific Islands i.e. Vanuatu is a huge concern for all of us.
 Quoting: Keep Smiling


Yeah, we are just discussing antarctica on Q's thread.
Loads of quakes probably happen there.
And of course there are volcanoes there too.
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I do not know how to read the RSAM's and SSAM's but i look at them every day, for changes.

Does anyone else check them?

What i can see is that on 10/11th they all changed.
And although it is windy, thats about when the seismos started to get very messy...

zl2tod.net is a cool place to look at the nz graphs.
Click on nz weather and geophysics
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try Posting them here ...

[link to thecontrail.com]


you can even burn a internet radio pod cast if you think its of public record... got a ZN DJ and Call in Number

I am not trying to scream the sky is falling - this is an honest observation that perhaps others who know more, can help me with.

I have been checking on the NZ volcanoes since our Geonet advised us in May that it looked like Ruapehu was awakening. They have since said that all has calmed down i.e. lake temps cooling.

However, the extra things they check on i.e. lake temps wouldn't be very easy to do through winter so we haven't had any extra updates for the past 3/4 months.

I can only check on the drums and charts provided on the Geonet site.

For the past two days there has been evidence of some sort of explosion (obviously small) but it is not a usual thing you see on the drums.

Today, another sort of explosion and/or quake happened. So I think its time to have a thread that kiwis can come to and add their 2 cents as to what is going on.

Below is a link to todays drum showing some sort of action.

[link to www.geonet.org.nz]

This is a link to two examples that try and explain what these seismos are picking up. The above could be an explosion or a quake swarm.

This is an explosion example:
[link to www.geonet.org.nz]

This is a swarm example:

[link to www.geonet.org.nz]


On checking all other drums in the area there is no sign of a quake - which points me towards an explosion.

The other interesting thing. Is that both drums for Ruapehu and Tongariro show no wind noise disturbance, whilst Nguarahoe shows heavy disturbance. (For those are are not kiwis these three volcanoes stand in a row with Nguarahoe in the middle). I hope it is wind and not harmonic.
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Thanks RpHunter - will go and have a look at that site.
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Any smell of sulphure? Frequent headache? Dizziness? Long dream/nightmare? Agressiveness? Sore eyes? Forgetting names of your chilldren and wife's birthday? Off to work without wearing your andy? If you experience these things, then get ready for the shaking:)
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Thats from farting in bed Bro !

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[link to www.geonet.org.nz]

There's one starting !
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Wednesday September 14 2011, 13:36:38 UTC 6 hours ago east of the North Island of New Zealand 5.6 40.8 Detail
Wednesday September 14 2011, 13:36:36 UTC 6 hours ago east of the North Island of New Zealand 5.9 19.8 Detail


Is this what you needed Tauranga?
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My wife and I have both noticed just perceptible tremors whilst lying in bed at night. This in the last three to four months. Not traffic - we live in a quiet cul-de-sac in Manurewa which sits on old volcanic lava flows, as does much of Auckland.
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My wife and I have both noticed just perceptible tremors whilst lying in bed at night. This in the last three to four months. Not traffic - we live in a quiet cul-de-sac in Manurewa which sits on old volcanic lava flows, as does much of Auckland.
 Quoting: mikal


I feel vibrations quite often. I am in BOP and i figure i am feeling magma movements.

Some americans on GLP feel it too.

Have u looked at the seismos, RSAM's and SSAM's for your area?
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Wednesday September 14 2011, 13:36:38 UTC 6 hours ago east of the North Island of New Zealand 5.6 40.8 Detail
Wednesday September 14 2011, 13:36:36 UTC 6 hours ago east of the North Island of New Zealand 5.9 19.8 Detail


Is this what you needed Tauranga?
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Thank you brother.
karma coming your way!
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Wednesday September 14 2011, 13:36:38 UTC 6 hours ago east of the North Island of New Zealand 5.6 40.8 Detail
Wednesday September 14 2011, 13:36:36 UTC 6 hours ago east of the North Island of New Zealand 5.9 19.8 Detail


Is this what you needed Tauranga?
 Quoting: El Quisqueyano


Thank you brother.
karma coming your way!
 Quoting: Tauranga


Thanks El Q - there must be some sort of demarcation line that Geonet uses as a cut off point between the Kermadecs and NZ where they are not reported to the NZ public. I think that those quakes must have been close to that line. I notice someone has asked them that question this morning so will keep an eye out for their reply.
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My wife and I have both noticed just perceptible tremors whilst lying in bed at night. This in the last three to four months. Not traffic - we live in a quiet cul-de-sac in Manurewa which sits on old volcanic lava flows, as does much of Auckland.
 Quoting: mikal


I've noticed the same tremors when I've stayed in the BOP. They were never reported as quakes.

There must be a whole lot of old magma chambers around Auckland. You might find this interesting. You may well be feeling magma movement.

All of Auckland’s volcanoes come from one magma source. Underlying Auckland is a diffuse pool of magma that occasionally finds its way to the surface.

(I will link the rest to you due to copyright stuff) but notice on the map that Manurewa sits on a red zone.


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