Supreme Court: No 'Due Process' Guarantee for Those Unable to Pay Child Support | |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1548771 United States 09/14/2011 01:57 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | And women - want to claim your child as your personal property? Run to the state and seek 'support'. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1548771 United States 09/14/2011 01:58 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Most of the time, the money turns up pretty quickly once jail is threatened. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1548987 This is mainly to catch, well, deadbeats. bullshit... i was on unemployment for like 2 years... and all was well while the unemployment benefits paid the child support. the instant the unemployment benefits stopped, the threat of jail became an immediate reality. i was told at my last child support hearing that if i didnt pay, i was going to jail, period. i explained to the rich, white motherfucker sitting across from me that i have been looking for a job for over 2 years now without success..... and she said if you dont pay, you are going to jail, period... so fuck them... i refuse to attend their fuckign hearings, and if they want me, they can come and find me. saw my kids yesterday too. FUCK THE SYSTEM. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 744051 United States 09/14/2011 02:02 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Tawandaaaa Funny. My ex is way behind in child support/medical reimbursement and I've never had free housing, welfare checks, free medical, free schooling, free food or a free cell phone. Sad thing is, he has means to pay and just doesn't. Don't put us all into the same category. The exception to the rule, only proves the rule. I am single and I have two children. I've never had free housing, welfare checks, free medical, free schooling, free food or a free cell phone. And I never filed for child support. They are 10 and 7. You aren't taking advantage of the system. I think you should file for support but I'm sure you have your reasons. I'm sure you don't appreciate paying taxes so that other women in your same position can choose to stay at home and recieve for free all the things you work hard for. The point is a lot of women are being rewarded while the men are being punished. I would never see a dime of it anyway and I figured he would just go away, I didn't list him on the birth certificate. No, I don't appreciate having to pay for anyone laying up on the state. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1548771 United States 09/14/2011 02:09 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | . Quoting: Borat Sagdiyev You make it sound so easy. If I was at least getting the joy of sex out of the deal it might make the sting to my paycheck seem to hurt less each week. The problem is that there's a lot of people shitting out babies all of the time and we all get to pay for their Food Stamps, Free School Lunch, Housing, etc. In 2008, 39.8 million (13.2%) Americans were living in absolute poverty. In 2009, 43.6 million (14.3%) Americans were living in absolute poverty. In 2010, 46.2 million (15.1%) Americans were living in absolute poverty -- its highest level since 1993. No hate at all here, but while I feel sorry for all of those poor unfortunate children, IT'S NOT MY FUCKING PROBLEM NOR MY FUCKING RESPONSIBILITY TO PAY FOR THEIR PARENT'S LACK OF PLANNING. . All this child support business, and state subsidies that you guys mention are illogical and wrong. The problem is your Govt is interfering too much into your family. I said very clearly - a child is part of Father's household, except in very rare circumstances. Poverty is not a reason to pluck a child from the Father. Moral values are very important, otherwise you get a society of degenerates and downfall of nation. Exactly. In normal societies, the children were always kept in the father's household after a parental break-up. This is why Western women empowered the state to be the father when they tried to claim children as their own personal property against biological fathers they were no longer in relationships with. Women are the first weak link in the human race which is why traditional rules for women were always so strict. The most beastial, feral, and pig-like women on the planet live in the Western world - and their societies reflect it. |
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Cylo Serious User ID: 1549046 United States 09/14/2011 02:18 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Do not father children you do not intend to support. Quoting: Bluebird Problem solved. Get a vasectomy if you are too stupid to practice birth control. All of the bastard children in this world are because of the poor choices that woman make when they decide to have unprotected sex with a man. None of this would be possible if woman would properly prepare themselves for this sort of lifestyle. Of course if she were raped then it would be a totally different situation. I'm not a bigot after all. Faith consists in believing when it is beyond the power of reason to believe. Voltaire |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1494996 United States 09/14/2011 02:19 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Most of the time, the money turns up pretty quickly once jail is threatened. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1548987 This is mainly to catch, well, deadbeats. Exactly. CA refuses to even look for the Dad. Mine owed 200K but the kids are grown now, he is off the hook. I owe 45K for College to support his kids. The kids each work for 300 max a week in a good month, and we still live in an apartment. He is building a new house. Never did CA threaten him with jail, nor would they even investigate where he lived or worked. I paid all. |
Cylo Serious User ID: 1549046 United States 09/14/2011 02:22 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Most of the time, the money turns up pretty quickly once jail is threatened. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1548987 This is mainly to catch, well, deadbeats. Exactly. CA refuses to even look for the Dad. Mine owed 200K but the kids are grown now, he is off the hook. I owe 45K for College to support his kids. The kids each work for 300 max a week in a good month, and we still live in an apartment. He is building a new house. Never did CA threaten him with jail, nor would they even investigate where he lived or worked. I paid all. Good for you. Way to handle your business. That is something to be proud of. I wish the baby of my children were more like you. Faith consists in believing when it is beyond the power of reason to believe. Voltaire |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 744051 United States 09/14/2011 02:22 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Do not father children you do not intend to support. Quoting: Bluebird Problem solved. Get a vasectomy if you are too stupid to practice birth control. All of the bastard children in this world are because of the poor choices that woman make when they decide to have unprotected sex with a man. None of this would be possible if woman would properly prepare themselves for this sort of lifestyle. Of course if she were raped then it would be a totally different situation. I'm not a bigot after all. I like how the woman is solely responsible for having the unprotected sex in your world, you aren't responsible for anything are you? That, unfortunately, is reality. They should make it law and teach it in school, women are solely responsible for any children they bear because ultimately, they are. Men should have no rights or responsibilities, they can't handle them anyway. |
Burt Gummer User ID: 1548819 United States 09/14/2011 02:26 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I get the feeling the state is really punishing people for having children. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1520768 Probably just another front in the war to depopulate the planet? How do you think a man reading this article is going to react, he's going to say oh shit I better not have kids at all look what can happen to me... No...just the feral kids and broken families. A marriage used to mean something in the USA. If it doesn't.....then don't have kids and you will avoid the problem. |
Cylo Serious User ID: 1549046 United States 09/14/2011 02:27 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Do not father children you do not intend to support. Quoting: Bluebird Problem solved. Get a vasectomy if you are too stupid to practice birth control. All of the bastard children in this world are because of the poor choices that woman make when they decide to have unprotected sex with a man. None of this would be possible if woman would properly prepare themselves for this sort of lifestyle. Of course if she were raped then it would be a totally different situation. I'm not a bigot after all. I like how the woman is solely responsible for having the unprotected sex in your world, you aren't responsible for anything are you? That, unfortunately, is reality. They should make it law and teach it in school, women are solely responsible for any children they bear because ultimately, they are. Men should have no rights or responsibilities, they can't handle them anyway. Men should have the right to choose the responsibilities they want to have. That sounds way better. Faith consists in believing when it is beyond the power of reason to believe. Voltaire |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 744051 United States 09/14/2011 02:29 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Do not father children you do not intend to support. Quoting: Bluebird Problem solved. Get a vasectomy if you are too stupid to practice birth control. All of the bastard children in this world are because of the poor choices that woman make when they decide to have unprotected sex with a man. None of this would be possible if woman would properly prepare themselves for this sort of lifestyle. Of course if she were raped then it would be a totally different situation. I'm not a bigot after all. I like how the woman is solely responsible for having the unprotected sex in your world, you aren't responsible for anything are you? That, unfortunately, is reality. They should make it law and teach it in school, women are solely responsible for any children they bear because ultimately, they are. Men should have no rights or responsibilities, they can't handle them anyway. Men should have the right to choose the responsibilities they want to have. That sounds way better. whatever makes you happy, sweet cheeks. After all, that is what it is all about, YOU. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1548771 United States 09/14/2011 02:31 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Most of the time, the money turns up pretty quickly once jail is threatened. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1548987 This is mainly to catch, well, deadbeats. Exactly. CA refuses to even look for the Dad. Mine owed 200K but the kids are grown now, he is off the hook. I owe 45K for College to support his kids. The kids each work for 300 max a week in a good month, and we still live in an apartment. He is building a new house. Never did CA threaten him with jail, nor would they even investigate where he lived or worked. I paid all. You received exactly what you asked for. You went to the state to claim your personal property. You got it. |
Cylo Serious User ID: 1549046 United States 09/14/2011 02:33 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Cylo Serious All of the bastard children in this world are because of the poor choices that woman make when they decide to have unprotected sex with a man. None of this would be possible if woman would properly prepare themselves for this sort of lifestyle. Of course if she were raped then it would be a totally different situation. I'm not a bigot after all. I like how the woman is solely responsible for having the unprotected sex in your world, you aren't responsible for anything are you? That, unfortunately, is reality. They should make it law and teach it in school, women are solely responsible for any children they bear because ultimately, they are. Men should have no rights or responsibilities, they can't handle them anyway. Men should have the right to choose the responsibilities they want to have. That sounds way better. whatever makes you happy, sweet cheeks. After all, that is what it is all about, YOU. Just as God intended. Have you read the Bible? Faith consists in believing when it is beyond the power of reason to believe. Voltaire |
Cylo Serious User ID: 1549046 United States 09/14/2011 02:34 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Most of the time, the money turns up pretty quickly once jail is threatened. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1548987 This is mainly to catch, well, deadbeats. Exactly. CA refuses to even look for the Dad. Mine owed 200K but the kids are grown now, he is off the hook. I owe 45K for College to support his kids. The kids each work for 300 max a week in a good month, and we still live in an apartment. He is building a new house. Never did CA threaten him with jail, nor would they even investigate where he lived or worked. I paid all. You received exactly what you asked for. You went to the state to claim your personal property. You got it. Faith consists in believing when it is beyond the power of reason to believe. Voltaire |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 744051 United States 09/14/2011 02:37 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 744051 I like how the woman is solely responsible for having the unprotected sex in your world, you aren't responsible for anything are you? That, unfortunately, is reality. They should make it law and teach it in school, women are solely responsible for any children they bear because ultimately, they are. Men should have no rights or responsibilities, they can't handle them anyway. Men should have the right to choose the responsibilities they want to have. That sounds way better. whatever makes you happy, sweet cheeks. After all, that is what it is all about, YOU. Just as God intended. Have you read the Bible? Sure have, and when it says that the man is the head of the household, it means that HE takes care of those in it. |
Cylo Serious User ID: 1549046 United States 09/14/2011 02:40 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Cylo Serious Men should have the right to choose the responsibilities they want to have. That sounds way better. whatever makes you happy, sweet cheeks. After all, that is what it is all about, YOU. Just as God intended. Have you read the Bible? Sure have, and when it says that the man is the head of the household, it means that HE takes care of those in it. Its only the women that aren't allowed to stay in the mans house that complain. Faith consists in believing when it is beyond the power of reason to believe. Voltaire |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 744051 United States 09/14/2011 02:44 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 744051 whatever makes you happy, sweet cheeks. After all, that is what it is all about, YOU. Just as God intended. Have you read the Bible? Sure have, and when it says that the man is the head of the household, it means that HE takes care of those in it. Its only the women that aren't allowed to stay in the mans house that complain. I have my own house, no complaints. Good night, sweet cheeks. Some of us have to get up early to go to our jobs so that we can support our kids. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1548771 United States 09/14/2011 02:45 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Sure have, and when it says that the man is the head of the household, it means that HE takes care of those in it. Its only the women that aren't allowed to stay in the mans house that complain. I have my own house, no complaints. Good night, sweet cheeks. Some of us have to get up early to go to our jobs so that we can support our kids. Night Butch! |
Scytherius User ID: 1531714 United States 09/14/2011 02:47 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The slavering Right Wing morons wanted a "constitutionally conservative" Court. Well ... that Court has flushed rights down the toilet with AMAZING speed. Be sure and thank your local TeaBagger for the ever reaching police state. It is time for the utter and complete destruction of TeaBaggery and Conservatism. |
Cylo Serious User ID: 1549046 United States 09/14/2011 02:55 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Sure have, and when it says that the man is the head of the household, it means that HE takes care of those in it. Its only the women that aren't allowed to stay in the mans house that complain. I have my own house, no complaints. Good night, sweet cheeks. Some of us have to get up early to go to our jobs so that we can support our kids. Ditto. Except I have to go run my business in the morning. Faith consists in believing when it is beyond the power of reason to believe. Voltaire |
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Skeptic the First User ID: 1531347 United States 09/14/2011 03:22 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | And likewise, the toll of women who refuse to obey court-ordered visitation rights also sits squarely on the children. Some states have virtuously enacted laws that empower visitation rights just as vigorously as child support. Unfortunately, lazy bigoted police often refuse to enforce the law. [link to www.illinoisdivorce.com] |
Skeptic the First User ID: 1531347 United States 09/14/2011 03:30 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The slavering Right Wing morons wanted a "constitutionally conservative" Court. Well ... that Court has flushed rights down the toilet with AMAZING speed. Quoting: Scytherius Be sure and thank your local TeaBagger for the ever reaching police state. You apparently didn't read how the 5-4 decision split. The 5 liberals voted that the man is dirt, the 4 conservatives voted that the man has rights. [link to www.nytimes.com] --- The case decided Monday involved a South Carolina man, Michael D. Turner, who was repeatedly held in civil contempt and jailed for as much as a year at a time for not paying child support. Mr. Turner argued that he was too poor to pay what he owed and that a lawyer could have helped him convince the judge that jailing him was impermissible. ... Justice Breyer’s majority opinion... Justices Anthony M. Kennedy, Ruth Bader Ginsburg, Sonia Sotomayor and Elena Kagan [the liberals] joined the majority opinion in the case, Turner v. Rogers, No. 10-10. Chief Justice John G. Roberts Jr. and Justices Antonin Scalia and Samuel A. Alito Jr. [the conservatives] joined all or substantial parts of Justice Thomas’s dissent. --- |
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