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Scientists accidentally create spontaneous life with electricity and crystals. Detailed and Documented in The Americal Journal of Science

 
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Inimical!!??

You gotta be kidding! That's not even close to inimical!

Ha! inimical, my butt!
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I think this makes more sense in the context of somatid theory. They did not create life, because the basic core building blocks of life are already all around us.

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Well, I'll be. Looks like the Newagers got it right. They've also been hoarding crystals for some time now
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Be careful then, because most of your electronic devices incorporating a microcontroller, do probably have a quartz crystal that it is used as part of the oscillator that clocks the microcontroller.
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This is idiotic. Early 19th century text, made without sufficient equipment, means abiogenesis? Seriously? You can't think of various ways of contamination involved?
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This is idiotic. Early 19th century text, made without sufficient equipment, means abiogenesis? Seriously? You can't think of various ways of contamination involved?
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You are in GLP, so you'll read from very serious to very idiotic things and a few hundreds of non-experts (or should I say experts in everything) will pop up and backup the whatever claims of whoever, like in this, which some misunderstanding from 200 years ago becomes exciting news! Maybe the next thread getting pinned will be about how to control the Universe with an FPGA.
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Crosse later went on to patent the first bug zapper.
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LOL
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I seem to remember NASA doing an experiment once. They took the primordial gas believed to be present in the early Earth. Put them in a triple neck flask, and poured on the heat and electrical. Walla, life did form there too, but it was simple single cells stuff. Not anything already evolved.!!.

I believe the experiments your posting on were probably defunct due to contamination... The small bugs were probably already there in the experiment. Since back then, they didn't even know about how to sterilize before an experiment. Just a hunch. But it sounds more probable than a bug suddenly appears without evolution of the bug...
It's like saying I charge these crystals and a dog pops out. Full dog like today. Not going to happen..

Now if it had been, bacteria formed all on their own, I might follow this experiment better. But you can't go from nothing to a bug. No enzymes nada???
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That's too bad. I'd like to make my own dog :)
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I seem to remember NASA doing an experiment once. They took the primordial gas believed to be present in the early Earth. Put them in a triple neck flask, and poured on the heat and electrical. Walla, life did form there too, but it was simple single cells stuff. Not anything already evolved.!!.

I believe the experiments your posting on were probably defunct due to contamination... The small bugs were probably already there in the experiment. Since back then, they didn't even know about how to sterilize before an experiment. Just a hunch. But it sounds more probable than a bug suddenly appears without evolution of the bug...
It's like saying I charge these crystals and a dog pops out. Full dog like today. Not going to happen..

Now if it had been, bacteria formed all on their own, I might follow this experiment better. But you can't go from nothing to a bug. No enzymes nada???
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That's too bad. I'd like to make my own dog :)
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the experiment mentioned was propably "The Miller and Urey experiment[1] (or Urey–Miller experiment)[2] ... an experiment that simulated hypothetical conditions thought at the time to be present on the early Earth, and tested for the occurrence of chemical origins of life."


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Why don't we hear about this stuff in School?

In 1837, Andrew Crosse reported to the London electrical Society concerning the accidental spontaneous generation of life in the form of Acurus genus insects while he was conducting experiments on the formation of artificial crystals by means of prolonged exposure to weak electric current. Throughout numerous strict experiments under a wide variety of conditions utterly inimical to life as we know it, the insects continued to manifest. The great Michael Faraday also reported to the Royal Institute that he had replicated the experiment. Soon afterwards, all notice of this phenomenon ceased to be reported, and the matter has not been resolved since then.

Wait a second, did that just say "Acurus genus insects were created by means of prolonged exposure to weak electrical current." ?

Yes it did! Well what the hell does that mean? It means bugs were created spontaneously with electricity and crystals basically.
Description of some Experiments made with the Voltaic Battery; by Andrew Crosse, esq., of Broomfield, near Taunton, for the purpose of producing Crystals; in the process of which Experiments certain Insects constantly appeared. [Reprinted from the Transactions of the Electrical Society of London]


References

(1) A. Crosse: The American Journal of Science & Arts; Vol. 35: 125-137 (January, 1839) ~ Reprint of Annals of Electricity, Magnetism, & Chemistry, vol. 2: 246-257 (January-June 1838)

(2) M. Roberton: Annals of Electricity, Magnetism & Chemistry, Vol. 2: 355-360 (January-June 1838) ~ Reprint of Comptes Rendu Acad. Sci. Paris (November 13, 1837); Note on a kind of Acarus presented to the Academy.

(3) Sir David Brewster: British Association Report (1855), page 9: On the Existence of Acari in Mica

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And now we know how we where made.
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The Mayan Crystal Skulls.


In any event, this experiment is far from conclusive.
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I once saw a flying shrimp bumble bee,,,strange I thought, but then I wanted to eat it cause I like shrimp deadhorse
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Not only far from conclusive, what are "Acurus genus" insects?

And even if they did do it, what would it prove? That you and I came from insects? Totally not.
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The Mayan Crystal Skulls.


In any event, this experiment is far from conclusive.
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this insect abiogenesis study happens to be more ancient than "Mayan" crystal skulls...
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I made Oreo cookies from mud, dog shit, and cool whip.
My dumbass brother actually ate one.

Don't tell me it's not possible to make something wonderful out of pure shit.

Been there, done that.
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dude....ugh....jeez

this was done in the era of spontaneous generation theory,
look at the date 1837

a fly got in the culture, and also did for faraday.

join the 21st century.

so much for the progression of science.
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Why don't we hear about this stuff in School?

In 1837, Andrew Crosse reported to the London electrical Society concerning the accidental spontaneous generation of life in the form of Acurus genus insects while he was conducting experiments on the formation of artificial crystals by means of prolonged exposure to weak electric current. Throughout numerous strict experiments under a wide variety of conditions utterly inimical to life as we know it, the insects continued to manifest. The great Michael Faraday also reported to the Royal Institute that he had replicated the experiment. Soon afterwards, all notice of this phenomenon ceased to be reported, and the matter has not been resolved since then.

Wait a second, did that just say "Acurus genus insects were created by means of prolonged exposure to weak electrical current." ?

Yes it did! Well what the hell does that mean? It means bugs were created spontaneously with electricity and crystals basically.
Description of some Experiments made with the Voltaic Battery; by Andrew Crosse, esq., of Broomfield, near Taunton, for the purpose of producing Crystals; in the process of which Experiments certain Insects constantly appeared. [Reprinted from the Transactions of the Electrical Society of London]


References

(1) A. Crosse: The American Journal of Science & Arts; Vol. 35: 125-137 (January, 1839) ~ Reprint of Annals of Electricity, Magnetism, & Chemistry, vol. 2: 246-257 (January-June 1838)

(2) M. Roberton: Annals of Electricity, Magnetism & Chemistry, Vol. 2: 355-360 (January-June 1838) ~ Reprint of Comptes Rendu Acad. Sci. Paris (November 13, 1837); Note on a kind of Acarus presented to the Academy.

(3) Sir David Brewster: British Association Report (1855), page 9: On the Existence of Acari in Mica

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we did, where were you?
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This is wonderful.

This means that the universe is electricity driven and not gravity driven.
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only pea brains could believe such a thing. Lets see any actual evidence?

Anyone can write volumes of text.

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Pea brain? not so much.

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You should read it.

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Reminds me of this a little:


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This reminds me of the plot to From Beyond


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crystals were used by the atlantians to lift heavy object certain sound waves passed though crystals set in a circle will levitate the object in the center, they can also be used in negative gravity fields and the manipulation on dna
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crystals were used by the atlantians to lift heavy object certain sound waves passed though crystals set in a circle will levitate the object in the center, they can also be used in negative gravity fields and the manipulation on dna
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crystals were used by the atlantians to lift heavy object certain sound waves passed though crystals set in a circle will levitate the object in the center, they can also be used in negative gravity fields and the manipulation on dna
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Who were the atlantians and where did they live....please keep this thread at a scientific level.
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That's called "contamination of control" in science.

It's well-understood.
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^This^

And Faraday never tried to reproduce this experiment, so the fact that he may have defended Andrew Crosse is probably pretty irrelevant.
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During the 25-year period that Van Tassel developed the Integratron, (1954-1978), he called it "a time machine, a rejuvenation machine and an anti-gravity device." His theory for rejuvenation was based on the recharging of the human cell structure using a powerful negative ion field. Van Tassel never tested the Integratron's ability to fulfill his dream. What he left behind, however, is a structure that captures, focuses and amplifies powerful geomagnetic and geologic forces, while its all-wood construction creates a deeply resonant sound field.

Scientists travel from around the world to study the Integratron. One geophysicist described it this way, "The building, just sitting there, is a mass battery." A nuclear physicist called the sound chamber "a magnetic room." In 2005, a scientist verified that in the center of the Integratron, there is a significant spike in the Earth's magnetic field, which she had measured from Giant Rock to Joshua Tree National Park.

According to Van Tassel, there are powerful geo-magnetic forces running through the Integratron's location. There is also a large aquifer underground. These elements combined with large concentrations of quartz, gold, copper and granite result in a powerful vortex of energy.

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That's called "contamination of control" in science.

It's well-understood.
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^This^

And Faraday never tried to reproduce this experiment, so the fact that he may have defended Andrew Crosse is probably pretty irrelevant.
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