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# Complexity of Influence - and Light that Does not Travel - Toroidal Manifestation

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Another flash, aether...

2 is the smallest number to exist ever, something and something else always

1 = 1 = Is considered to be a primordial unity. The beginning. The Creator.
Quoting: aether

There MUST be relationship. So we have 1 and 1. As yet, the 1 and 1 exist, but are beyond relationship. THIS is the existence of Potential.

12 = 3 = Three is a moving forward of energy, overcoming duality, expression, manifestation and synthesis.
Quoting: aether

The 3 is the all inclusive. It is the 'friction' of 1 and 1 having a relationship together. It is 'beyond' 1 and 1, because it is merely 1 and 1's relationship. Therefor, it is never 1 or the other 1...

This would make 3 everything and nothing at the same time. It is without physicality. It is the CAUSE of manifestation. Actually, it is the CAUSE of duality, expression, manifestation and synthesis.

12 is the pattern of relationship.
3 is...angular momentum. IT IS LIGHT.

Hahaha! CORRECTION... 3 = 'deformed' light...or, slowed down light.

The 'friction' of 1 and 1 causes light to slow down. 1 and 1 is what? Charge and Field. Maximize the energy being converted through the 'relationship' or friction between 1 and 1 (charge and field), by pulsation.

There is something in this that is missing. The CAUSE for the pulse is missing. lmfao! That is what is ALWAYS missing when we do this fucking scenario!

Wait...the FRICTION must be the PULSE. Therefore, the pulse is the ratio of charge in relation to field.

PULSE is Quantum Spin 1/2...?

If this deduction is correct, than we should have the pulse ratio of interaction between potential (1 and 1, charge and field) in numerical form when describing the Aether Unit.

Also, Q1/2 would be the first deformation of LIGHT into manifestation. There is no way to isolate that number though in real world...only mathematically.

Q1/2 would deform per the complexity of sacred geometry, with 4 spherical nodes being the first manifestation.

EDIT TO ADD: Deformation would occur as well because of Schrodinger's Cat.

Also, a note. If this is the case, then 3 is not consciousness like I thought, though it is integrated within the process. Somehow, even consciousness, is an effect of another, yet deeper, cause.

Is pulse Q1/2 ?

Is it Fibonacci?

Does it change due to complexity of influence?

If it changes due to complexity of influence, what is that ratio of change?

My answer to the above is that it changes due to complexity of influence. The answer may lie in the research: Thread: Self Organizing Criticalilty Points
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I apologize for the complexity of this post. I can flesh it out, though it may take a while...and I am unsure as to how it would be worth it...Schrodinger's Cat rends it nearly useless. Consciousness is an effect of something outside these causes.

I have an idea. It is akin to Trinity inside Trinty inside Trinity. That would solve consciousness being an effect integrated within this... 3-6-9
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Note: Pulse exists because of relationship between charge and field. This relationship causes spiral...spiral is pulse in a 'spiral-1 dimension' perception.

Pulse = Spiral - 1 Dimension (observation)
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I have an idea. It is akin to Trinity inside Trinty inside Trinity. That would solve consciousness being an effect integrated within this... 3-6-9
Quoting: SickScent

I am trying to flesh that out too.

I think metaphorically and in reality it is the oneness of all the threes coming together to birth the rise of consciousness.

The trinity and oneness of all the Mary’s the Gnostics knew as one.

The trinity and oneness of father son and Holy Spirt with Pistic Sophia being the Spirt that moves this from within us to outside of ourselves.

The trinity and oneness of our own masculine and feminine or left and right side of our brain coming to together as one in the temple of the spirt in our bodies.

It is the consummation of Heaven and Earth into the oneness of the Abyss of Creation. The Holy Mount or Ziggurat in Babylonian terms.
Quoting: A Muse Me This Morning on Another Thread

Last Edited by Metanoia on 09/14/2011 10:18 PM
The term derives from the Ancient Greek words, meta, meaning beyond or after, and noia, meaning perception or understanding or mind.
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Thought: Light doesn't MOVE. It is the friction that is the glimmer of 'LIGHT'. The light doesn't move...the friction makes it 'seen', though it is in the 'background' of all things. It is potential, which is convergence without friction. Once friction occurs, light slows down into the 'visible'.
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I have an idea. It is akin to Trinity inside Trinty inside Trinity. That would solve consciousness being an effect integrated within this... 3-6-9
Quoting: SickScent

I am trying to flesh that out too.

I think metaphorically and in reality it is the oneness of all the threes coming together to birth the rise of consciousness.

The trinity and oneness of all the Mary’s the Gnostics knew as one.

The trinity and oneness of father son and Holy Spirt with Pistic Sophia being the Spirt that moves this from within us to outside of ourselves.

The trinity and oneness of our own masculine and feminine or left and right side of our brain coming to together as one in the temple of the spirt in our bodies.

It is the consummation of Heaven and Earth into the oneness of the Abyss of Creation. The Holy Mount or Ziggurat in Babylonian terms.
Quoting: A Muse Me This Morning on Another Thread

Quoting: A Muse Me

Thank you Muse. I am a little unfamiliar with Gnostic terminology. I'll have to look it up.
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Holy shit. I just had a vision flash of how light doesn't move.

Charge/Field is 1 and 1. Angular momentum is 3.

I don't know if I can explain it right now.

Angular Momentum, light, is a convergence of two other vortices (at this point 'unknown'. These two other votices converge on the vortex line of charge and field. It creates it's own 3...fuck

It is hidden is some of this stuff...

...

I just had an intuitive flash at your words Toad. Galaxy mass/gravity holds the system together, and magnetism creates the form as it goes through expansion.

So, mass/gravity in the beginning holds things together, but doesn't create the 'form'... magnetism during expansion creates the 'form' and holds the form together..
Quoting: SickScent

No! Magnetism holds things together in the beginning, via the magnetic "pull" of the black holes and once they close, then mass/gravity comes into play.

Ribbit

But, isn't it magnetism that creates the forms? It is the force that structures. Hell, it structures light...
Quoting: SickScent

Here is the full spill, so you can see the organization from beginning to end . . .

Twin identical orbs of anti-matter (inverted positive matter) are ejected from the 1st Dimension into the 2nd Dimension (our dimension). They rip through space, invert, revert, then explode against one-another, pancaking and creating a vaccum from the pancake effect, sucking in the majority of both birthing plumes, and the resulting galaxy is a saucer shaped galaxy. The TWO massive black holes absorb the anti-matter explosion that is directed at them, which damages the holes and makes them even bigger and over time the galaxy develops a spiral shape, from the magnetic pull of both black holes and also dew to the fact both black holes are rotating in opposite directions, which, in union, they are actually turning the same direction together but when looking at them, they turn opposite directions, which is just like our planet's oceanic currents (northern hemi goes clockwise and sourthern hemi goes counterclockwise), which goes in line with "as above, so below" because that saying also applies to identical opposites.

If you remember my Soulmate Quote:

"Soulmates are TWO Singularities creating a Duality of ONE Love." - Old Toad Proverb

Soulmates are born with a galaxy and are opposites of one another, like Yin-Yang describes:

"The Symbol (Yin-Yang) represents the ancient Chinese understanding of how things work. The outer circle represents "everything", while the black and white shapes within the circle represent the interaction of two energies, called "yin" (black) and "yang" (white), which cause everything to happen. They are not completely black or white, just as things in life are not completely black or white, and they cannot exist without each other."

I hope that clears things up a bit? :tiphatsmiley:

Ribbit :kickmesign:

Which relates to this.

...

Remember the Trinty Psy4!

2 + 3 = 5

EVERYTHING is Relative to Source! :yahoodance:

Now get to figuring out this shit! :spankbutt:

Ribbit :guitarbanger:

I'm trying...I'm doing finance, customer relations, management, other 'teachings', nightly sojourns, being a father and husband, dealing with ET contact, doing experiments of how matter is first created in the non-material, trying to find out where the fuck the dense aspects of Fluffy is in the non-material (which I figured out btw), dealing with bankruptcy...every single day of my life. I'm doing the best I can, Captain!
Quoting: SickScent

Quoting: John Humble

It's more through experiencing a perfect moment in time, that lets your mind open to the universe and information just pours in, like you are a cup and it is being filled.

:HolyGraile:

Ribbit

Ps: Remember, sometimes it is You that is upsidedown, not the world!

:bdaybear:

...and this

OK, Toad, what are the 2 Spaces?
Quoting: SickScent

Trinty Psy4:

1st Dimension (spacial, negative in nature (anti-matter) & where all black holes lead)
2nd Dimension (spacial, positive in nature (positive matter) & where We reside)
3rd Dimenion (Time - 3 parts: Past, Present, Future)

1st + 2nd Dimensions are singular in nature = 1 + 1 = 2
3rd Dimension is the trinity within the Trinity = 3

2 + 3 = 23

Everything is Relative to Source and Source is Relative to Everything!

Ribbit

Taod will be proud of me! I can 'see' it!
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Holy shit. I just had a vision flash of how light doesn't move.

Charge/Field is 1 and 1. Angular momentum is 3.

I don't know if I can explain it right now.

Angular Momentum, light, is a convergence of two other vortices (at this point 'unknown'. These two other votices converge on the vortex line of charge and field. It creates it's own 3...fuck

It is hidden is some of this stuff...

...

No! Magnetism holds things together in the beginning, via the magnetic "pull" of the black holes and once they close, then mass/gravity comes into play.

Ribbit

But, isn't it magnetism that creates the forms? It is the force that structures. Hell, it structures light...
Quoting: SickScent

Here is the full spill, so you can see the organization from beginning to end . . .

Twin identical orbs of anti-matter (inverted positive matter) are ejected from the 1st Dimension into the 2nd Dimension (our dimension). They rip through space, invert, revert, then explode against one-another, pancaking and creating a vaccum from the pancake effect, sucking in the majority of both birthing plumes, and the resulting galaxy is a saucer shaped galaxy. The TWO massive black holes absorb the anti-matter explosion that is directed at them, which damages the holes and makes them even bigger and over time the galaxy develops a spiral shape, from the magnetic pull of both black holes and also dew to the fact both black holes are rotating in opposite directions, which, in union, they are actually turning the same direction together but when looking at them, they turn opposite directions, which is just like our planet's oceanic currents (northern hemi goes clockwise and sourthern hemi goes counterclockwise), which goes in line with "as above, so below" because that saying also applies to identical opposites.

If you remember my Soulmate Quote:

"Soulmates are TWO Singularities creating a Duality of ONE Love." - Old Toad Proverb

Soulmates are born with a galaxy and are opposites of one another, like Yin-Yang describes:

"The Symbol (Yin-Yang) represents the ancient Chinese understanding of how things work. The outer circle represents "everything", while the black and white shapes within the circle represent the interaction of two energies, called "yin" (black) and "yang" (white), which cause everything to happen. They are not completely black or white, just as things in life are not completely black or white, and they cannot exist without each other."

I hope that clears things up a bit? :tiphatsmiley:

Ribbit :kickmesign:

Which relates to this.

...

I'm trying...I'm doing finance, customer relations, management, other 'teachings', nightly sojourns, being a father and husband, dealing with ET contact, doing experiments of how matter is first created in the non-material, trying to find out where the fuck the dense aspects of Fluffy is in the non-material (which I figured out btw), dealing with bankruptcy...every single day of my life. I'm doing the best I can, Captain!
Quoting: SickScent

Quoting: John Humble

It's more through experiencing a perfect moment in time, that lets your mind open to the universe and information just pours in, like you are a cup and it is being filled.

:HolyGraile:

Ribbit

Ps: Remember, sometimes it is You that is upsidedown, not the world!

:bdaybear:

...and this

OK, Toad, what are the 2 Spaces?
Quoting: SickScent

Trinty Psy4:

1st Dimension (spacial, negative in nature (anti-matter) & where all black holes lead)
2nd Dimension (spacial, positive in nature (positive matter) & where We reside)
3rd Dimenion (Time - 3 parts: Past, Present, Future)

1st + 2nd Dimensions are singular in nature = 1 + 1 = 2
3rd Dimension is the trinity within the Trinity = 3

2 + 3 = 23

Everything is Relative to Source and Source is Relative to Everything!

Ribbit

Taod will be proud of me! I can 'see' it!
Quoting: SickScent

Darn you sound like something opened your eye.
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Keep up I'm learning a lot.
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It is very simple, but I do not know how to explain it without there being a 'distortion' to my words. It' feels' too simple, but it is not.

Light is everywhere. 'Rodin's' math allows a 'hole' to exist where the z-pinch converges in its exact center. But, it is not a hole, it is merely a convergence area that 'allows' light to exist (manifest) in our material universe. The convergence point is the center of a moving, self perpetuating, torus...the Rodin Coil. It is the convergence point that 'moves' throughout the matrix of spirals each one generates. Is is not the light that is moving. Light exists everywhere in another, higher realm. (BTW, this would explain why light is a constant)

Got to head out. I'll keep trying to flesh it out.
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Darn you sound like something opened your eye.
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This is an absolutely amazing concept when understood properly how it works.

Everything in the material is merely the effect of the movement of convergence points.
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bump for awesomeness and simplicity...

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uni verse is a gourd filled with water (light). something knocked the gourd long ago and the vibration fronts produced converged upon and throughout eachother. like how invisible ripples in a pool produce flickering rolling images of condensed and dispersed light on the tablet/surface of the pool bottom.
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the folded vibrations create All Materials
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bump for awesomeness and simplicity...

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I am struggling with the simplicity. Sometimes, if I can break it down as I am following the line of thought, I can create (somewhat) a simplicity in conveying the idea.

I am wondering how others will view it...in as far as the simplicity. It is an extraordinary concept to grasp, but there are no proper words to describe it accurately.

I am trying to think of a way to describe the moving imagery in my head as to how it works, with very easy to understand concepts. Its pretty neat though, because in order to understand it, you must view it in AT LEAST 4 dimensions.
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bump for awesomeness and simplicity...

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I am struggling with the simplicity. Sometimes, if I can break it down as I am following the line of thought, I can create (somewhat) a simplicity in conveying the idea.

I am wondering how others will view it...in as far as the simplicity. It is an extraordinary concept to grasp, but there are no proper words to describe it accurately.

I am trying to think of a way to describe the moving imagery in my head as to how it works, with very easy to understand concepts. Its pretty neat though, because in order to understand it, you must view it in AT LEAST 4 dimensions.
Quoting: SickScent

i have a hard time putting things into word too, sometimes...

let the music do the talking...

do ray me...

i used to call it being trapped in the fourth dimension
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I am impress Sickscent very good....
Lets test you farther....

How would you define matter?

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It is actually two counter rotating vortexes. The meeting point is where light is slowed down from super-luminal, into material manifestation. These three ingredients (charge, field, and angular momentum...or slowed down light) create a 'stabilized' spherical pattern of forward pulsation. Put 4 of these spheres in the closest possible configuration, and the 'meeting points' (the convergence points of the two counter rotating vortexes made of charge, field, and put into motion from angular momentum - or slowed down light) 'connect' and become stable. Thus, the first platonic solid is manifested into materiality. Add more 'spheres' and complexity creates the other platonic solids. Further the complexity and density of the adjoining spheres, and light is slowed down (as an example) and become more defined as matter to our perception.

As reflection of what?
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1180573

The non-material.

And as an expression of what?
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1180573

Relationship as a base foundation to the material. If you want to go deeper, than it is an expression of consciousness...not as we know it, but more as a creative 'force'.
Quoting: SickScent

From my 'revelation' last night, light does not move. Light is actually everywhere, but it exists super-luminally. A cause occurs (the meeting up of the two counter rotating vortexes) and its effect is that it slows down the 'area' around itself (which is all super-luminal light) and allows light to become visible in 3 dimensions...what we call 'materiality'.
Quoting: SickScent
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Electricity is the strain or tension set up by the two opposing desires of universal Mind thinking: the desire for balanced action and the desire for rest.
This electric universe is a complexity of strains caused by the interaction of these two opposing, interchanging electric desires.
All matter is electric. All matter is conditioned into greater or lesser strains according to the intensity of desire which is the cause of all electric strain to which it is subjected.
The farther removed from rest, the greater the strain or tension. That which we call high electric potential is merely great strain to maintain a condition which is far from the condition of rest.

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just a dude

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...

From my 'revelation' last night, light does not move. Light is actually everywhere, but it exists super-luminally. A cause occurs (the meeting up of the two counter rotating vortexes) and its effect is that it slows down the 'area' around itself (which is all super-luminal light) and allows light to become visible in 3 dimensions...what we call 'materiality'.
Quoting: SickScent

That sounds realistic. And it applies in the relativistic as well. To say that (background) light does not move, is like claiming the universe as a whole does not.

The visibility part is a matter of perception.

Don't bog yourself down with the notion of 3 dimensions. 'Tis simpler to think of 'paths'.
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what is it exactly you imply here, please?
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for brilliance!!!

In the human spirit, as in the universe, nothing is higher or lower; everything has equal rights to a common center which manifests its hidden existence precisely through this harmonic relationship between every part and itself. ~ Goethe
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what is it exactly you imply here, please?
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Yes, brilliant.
Hehheh, I'm not smart enough for this, but I'll stick my neck out...

You can have understanding (not sure right word) or being.
If you have existence, you have mystery.

The pulse is the Paradox that drives Everything..?
I mean...if SickScent and Butt Ugly Toad really come up with the Grand
Unification Law of Everything, everything will cease to exist,
even non-existence! *can't stop laffin*
"In the beginning was the word."

Existence cannot be without awareness; hence "time" - which
is PULSE, since awareness always re-detects paradox in its own
inability to fully explain itself.
In material and non-material both.
Round and round it goes, faster and faster.
We all sense that death holds understanding - but takes away being :D

This is by far the weirdest life I've ever had, no doubt
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Yes, brilliant.
Hehheh, I'm not smart enough for this, but I'll stick my neck out...

You can have understanding (not sure right word) or being.
If you have existence, you have mystery.

The pulse is the Paradox that drives Everything..?
I mean...if SickScent and Butt Ugly Toad really come up with the Grand
Unification Law of Everything, everything will cease to exist,
even non-existence! *can't stop laffin*
"In the beginning was the word."

Existence cannot be without awareness; hence "time" - which
is PULSE, since awareness always re-detects paradox in its own
inability to fully explain itself.
In material and non-material both.
Round and round it goes, faster and faster.
We all sense that death holds understanding - but takes away being :D

This is by far the weirdest life I've ever had, no doubt
Quoting: Accidental Stoner 1191993

please, Stoner, do not be an Accident!

"Seeing that everybody, gods of the world and mankind, says that nothing existed prior to chaos, I, in distinction to them, shall demonstrate that they are all mistaken, because they are not acquainted with the origin of chaos, nor with its root. Here is the demonstration."

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"In the beginning was the word."

Quoting: Accidental Stoner 1191993

No! it is The Thought, which is.