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Complexity of Influence - and Light that Does not Travel - Toroidal Manifestation

 
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please, Stoner, do not be an Accident!

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lmao

Mom always aid I was one :D

Thought, word = same thing.

Thx for link!

Tao was before origin of chaos.
It was before before :)


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*said*

damn, my typing
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Does this resonate for simplicity? Also, in my heart I feel that linguistics, the thoughtform of naming the observation, naming the vibration...even that of light, is what creates the awareness that holds the observation together in feedback loops or spins???

[link to www.jayweidner.com]

"Getting back to the central core of our hyperdimensional torus we can understand the vortexes inside this sphere and how time unfolds by using the tornado analogy. As the energy flow begins to dip down into the top of the tetrahedral shaped vortex it begins to spin. As the energy flow descends, its spin becomes more rapid and compressed. Like a tornado, as it reaches further down, the tip of the vortex ‘hardens’. It could be said that this hardening of vorticular forces is what makes up the solidity of our three dimensional space. Each human, plant, animal and indeed every planet and star alike are the hardened tips of hyperdimensional vortexes, which are flowing all around us constantly.

Like air, these hyperdimensional forces are pretty much invisible to us. It is only when these forces coagulate into a spinning vortex that they can be seen and felt. It is through the rapid spinning of four-dimensional space that the solidity of the third dimension is actually created. The mystics from all great traditions know this and they realize these inner dynamics of the fourth dimension as it interacts with the third dimension. The fourth dimension is the surrounding sphere and the third dimension are the tetrahedral vortexes that make up the central core of the sphere. To the ancients, four-dimensional space was called ‘spirit’ and three-dimensional space was called ‘matter’.

So what does this have to do with time and the topography of time? Remember the dilemma that we face in trying to make the four ages of the precession match up with the Ages or Yugas from the Hindu system? By attempting to make the two into one we can not only understand the topology of time, but also we can map time like the ancients and we can know where we are in the river of time.

As shown in illustration F, imagine that we are coming through the very center of where the two tetrahedral tornado vortexes intersect at the very center of the inner hyperdimensional sphere. Moving down the bottom vortex towards the outside surface of the sphere, each spin in the vortex takes longer and is wider and slower than the previous spin in the vortex. In other words, the energy flow expands after it passes the ‘null’ point in the very center of the hyperdimensional sphere, or torus, where the tips of the two tetrahedral vortexes touch.

This energy flow continues its expansion as it climbs over the lip of the bottom edge of the sphere where the vortex meets the outside edge of the sphere. The energy flow continues to expand until it reaches the outside equator area of the sphere. Once it gets past the equator, the energy flow begins to condense, the flow begins to move faster and the spin density increases. This flow continues until the energy flow reaches the upper lip of the outside of the hyperdimensional sphere where it begins to ‘fall’ into the top of the tornado tetrahedral vortex.

Now as the flow of energy falls down the vortex towards the null point at the very center of the sphere it begins to harden as it spins faster and faster. This goes on and on until the vortex is so hard it is like iron. This is how the fourth dimensional forces create three-dimensional reality. As the vortex spins faster and faster eventually it compresses down to the point where it has nowhere to go but outwards again. This occurs at the null point in the center of the sphere and the energy flow now begins to once again expand.

The Golden Age is the time period that starts at the null point in the center of the sphere and continues through the bottom vortex. As the energy flow expands outwards time appears to slow down. The entire period of the Satya Yuga, or the Golden Age, continues as the energy flow goes down the bottom vortex and rounds across the top of the sphere. It continues expanding until it arrives at the equator (see illustration G).

The equator of the outside of the hyperdimensional sphere is the borderline between the Satya Yuga and Treta Yuga, or the Golden Age and the Silver Age. Now the energy flow begins to contract as it flows upwards towards the north pole of the hypersphere.

The Silver Age, or the Treta Yuga, continues until the energy flow rounds the top lip of the hyperdimensional sphere and begins to fall into the upper tetrahedral vortex. This then is the borderline between the Treta Yuga and the Dvapara Yuga, or the border between the Silver Age and the Bronze Age.

About two thirds down in the upper vortex, where the energy flow is spinning so fast that it becomes as solid as iron, is beginning of the last Age, the Kali Yuga, or the Iron Age. This spinning continues to gain density and compression and speed as it races towards the central null point in the very center of the sphere. As it approaches this null point the forces become unbelievably fast, violent and dense. It is only when these forces achieve maximum density and they can no longer compress any further that they begin to suddenly flip and begin the expansion of the flow. This happens in an instant. This is the shift from the Iron Age, or the Kali Yuga to the Golden Age, or the Satya Yuga. The borderline between the Iron Age and the Golden Age is the most distinct border in this topographical illustration of hyperdimensional time. It is the most jarring and is instantaneous.

Take notice of the hourglass shape of the two tetrahedral vortexes inside the hyperdimensional sphere. Is this why Fulcanelli tells us about the hour-glass in the quote at the beginning of this article? In the Hindu mythology the God Shiva dances the world into and out of existence playing his dhamaru which is a two sided drum shaped like an hourglass.

Notice that, like the number of years in the Hindu Yuga system, the distance traveled through our ages in the hypersphere is similar; the Golden Age, which is the distance between the null point in the center and the outside equator is twice the distance as that traveled through the Silver Age which is the distance from the equator to the top of the lip of the upper vortex. Equally, the distance traveled from the top of the vortex to two thirds down, which is the Bronze Age, is half the length of the Silver Age. Finally, the tip of the vortex is half the length of the Bronze Age.

This part, called the Iron Age, is the Age in which we live. This is also why, in the Iron Age, each second feels shorter than the second before. This is why each day, each month and year appear to be going faster than they did previously. In the topology of time this effect can be easily understood and explained.

Also remember even though the distance traveled is much further in the Golden Age than it is in the Iron Age, the number of years it takes is the same. It takes 6,480 years to go through the Golden Age just as it takes 6,480 years to go through the Iron Age, but it feels much different. In the Golden Age each second, each day, each month and year appear to be longer than the previous day, month and year. Time is expanding in the Golden Age and with that expansion the anxiety and tension of the Iron Age disappears. It is a paradise, especially to those who may have survived the passing through the wormhole, or the null point at the center of the hyperdimensional sphere.

Therefore, the years listed within the Yuga system are actually symbolic times that explain the lengths of time as it is felt not as it is lived. So the Golden Age or the Satya Yuga feels like it is much longer than the Kali Yuga, or the Iron Age."
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...

From my 'revelation' last night, light does not move. Light is actually everywhere, but it exists super-luminally. A cause occurs (the meeting up of the two counter rotating vortexes) and its effect is that it slows down the 'area' around itself (which is all super-luminal light) and allows light to become visible in 3 dimensions...what we call 'materiality'.
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That sounds realistic. And it applies in the relativistic as well. To say that (background) light does not move, is like claiming the universe as a whole does not.

The visibility part is a matter of perception.

Don't bog yourself down with the notion of 3 dimensions. 'Tis simpler to think of 'paths'.
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I've been trying to keep away from that!
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"In the beginning was the word."



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No! it is The Thought, which is.

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Before the first word: silence
Before the first light: sound
The farther you enter into the truth the more you see that all life flows from the intelligence of one heart. ~ Lyricus
In the human spirit, as in the universe, nothing is higher or lower; everything has equal rights to a common center which manifests its hidden existence precisely through this harmonic relationship between every part and itself. ~ Goethe
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...

From my 'revelation' last night, light does not move. Light is actually everywhere, but it exists super-luminally. A cause occurs (the meeting up of the two counter rotating vortexes) and its effect is that it slows down the 'area' around itself (which is all super-luminal light) and allows light to become visible in 3 dimensions...what we call 'materiality'.
 Quoting: SickScent



That sounds realistic. And it applies in the relativistic as well. To say that (background) light does not move, is like claiming the universe as a whole does not.

The visibility part is a matter of perception.

Don't bog yourself down with the notion of 3 dimensions. 'Tis simpler to think of 'paths'.
 Quoting: just a dude


I've been trying to keep away from that!
 Quoting: SickScent


Yet it is the very context within which you need to frame your revelation!!

hf
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...

From my 'revelation' last night, light does not move. Light is actually everywhere, but it exists super-luminally. A cause occurs (the meeting up of the two counter rotating vortexes) and its effect is that it slows down the 'area' around itself (which is all super-luminal light) and allows light to become visible in 3 dimensions...what we call 'materiality'.
 Quoting: SickScent



That sounds realistic. And it applies in the relativistic as well. To say that (background) light does not move, is like claiming the universe as a whole does not.

The visibility part is a matter of perception.

Don't bog yourself down with the notion of 3 dimensions. 'Tis simpler to think of 'paths'.
 Quoting: just a dude


I've been trying to keep away from that!
 Quoting: SickScent


Yet it is the very context within which you need to frame your revelation!!

hf
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Yes, but some of the terms have so much 'baggage' attached to them nowadays...like DIMENSION
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"In the beginning was the word."



 Quoting: Accidental Stoner 1191993


No! it is The Thought, which is.

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Before the first word: silence
Before the first light: sound
The farther you enter into the truth the more you see that all life flows from the intelligence of one heart. ~ Lyricus
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nope!
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The logos, the power to name things. Out of chaos, desire manifests concept which resonates said desire into matter out of said chaos. It's hard to describe even in quantum terms, like we don't have language to make sense of it. I'm guessing that's our logos, coming soon to a reality near you, lol.
"Chaos exists as a pool of possibilities that order draws from and organizes according to creative desire. Some things get tossed down the memory hole only to reemerge later when the need arises. Neither chaos nor order holds a monopoly on creation and destruction, creative or destructive chaos exists as does creative and destructive order." - ME! Yeah, Bea :) snoocherdoodle@gmail.com
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Thread: Solar Flares / Earthquakes / Local Fluff & Bubble / Nibiru / Elenin / Neutronstar / Brown Dwarfs / Dangers of Nuclear Devices / Matrix / NWO /Fun
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The logos, the power to name things. Out of chaos, desire manifests concept which resonates said desire into matter out of said chaos. It's hard to describe even in quantum terms, like we don't have language to make sense of it. I'm guessing that's our logos, coming soon to a reality near you, lol.
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We honestly do not. It is beautiful, because there-in lies the secret of poetry and parable. We can see, FEEL the emotion in it, because we can contemplate, and relate to it, because it is a part of our experience. Basically, we fill in the blanks to make it Truth.
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The logos, the power to name things. Out of chaos, desire manifests concept which resonates said desire into matter out of said chaos. It's hard to describe even in quantum terms, like we don't have language to make sense of it. I'm guessing that's our logos, coming soon to a reality near you, lol.
 Quoting: Queen Bea of Useless Knowledge


We honestly do not. It is beautiful, because there-in lies the secret of poetry and parable. We can see, FEEL the emotion in it, because we can contemplate, and relate to it, because it is a part of our experience. Basically, we fill in the blanks to make it Truth.
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Yes, create new language that blends art and science, that's the game. I KNOW it, but can't say it because it's both too simple and too complex. Like a tesseract, but not... Damnit, lol. It comes out as "crazy" because we're still using old words to describe new concepts that are both quantum and spiritual. Eh, we'll get it... It's comforting to know I'm not the only one, I've read enough of your stuff, SS. I know you know what I'm saying badly, lol.
"Chaos exists as a pool of possibilities that order draws from and organizes according to creative desire. Some things get tossed down the memory hole only to reemerge later when the need arises. Neither chaos nor order holds a monopoly on creation and destruction, creative or destructive chaos exists as does creative and destructive order." - ME! Yeah, Bea :) snoocherdoodle@gmail.com
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The logos, the power to name things. Out of chaos, desire manifests concept which resonates said desire into matter out of said chaos. It's hard to describe even in quantum terms, like we don't have language to make sense of it. I'm guessing that's our logos, coming soon to a reality near you, lol.
 Quoting: Queen Bea of Useless Knowledge


We honestly do not. It is beautiful, because there-in lies the secret of poetry and parable. We can see, FEEL the emotion in it, because we can contemplate, and relate to it, because it is a part of our experience. Basically, we fill in the blanks to make it Truth.
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Yes, create new language that blends art and science, that's the game. I KNOW it, but can't say it because it's both too simple and too complex. Like a tesseract, but not... Damnit, lol. It comes out as "crazy" because we're still using old words to describe new concepts that are both quantum and spiritual. Eh, we'll get it... It's comforting to know I'm not the only one, I've read enough of your stuff, SS. I know you know what I'm saying badly, lol.
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ohyeah
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"But where is it to get this spiritual world? Where but out of itself? It must reveal itself; and the words that it speaks, ;the revelations in which it unveils itself, these are its world. As a visionary lives and has his world only in the visionary pictures that he himself creates, as a crazy man generates for himself his own dream-world, without which he could not be crazy, so the spirit must create for itself its spirit world, and is not spirit until it creates it." - Max Stirner, the only guy with a sense of humor in Germany in his time who was mistaken for a literalist, lol... or that's how I've always read him anyway.
"Chaos exists as a pool of possibilities that order draws from and organizes according to creative desire. Some things get tossed down the memory hole only to reemerge later when the need arises. Neither chaos nor order holds a monopoly on creation and destruction, creative or destructive chaos exists as does creative and destructive order." - ME! Yeah, Bea :) snoocherdoodle@gmail.com
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The logos, the power to name things. Out of chaos, desire manifests concept which resonates said desire into matter out of said chaos. It's hard to describe even in quantum terms, like we don't have language to make sense of it. I'm guessing that's our logos, coming soon to a reality near you, lol.
 Quoting: Queen Bea of Useless Knowledge


We honestly do not. It is beautiful, because there-in lies the secret of poetry and parable. We can see, FEEL the emotion in it, because we can contemplate, and relate to it, because it is a part of our experience. Basically, we fill in the blanks to make it Truth.
 Quoting: SickScent


Yes, create new language that blends art and science, that's the game. I KNOW it, but can't say it because it's both too simple and too complex. Like a tesseract, but not... Damnit, lol. It comes out as "crazy" because we're still using old words to describe new concepts that are both quantum and spiritual. Eh, we'll get it... It's comforting to know I'm not the only one, I've read enough of your stuff, SS. I know you know what I'm saying badly, lol.
 Quoting: Queen Bea of Useless Knowledge


ohyeah
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new language in the Lands of Hades... and in order to art new scientific concepts for the World of the dissipating Error,.. and with the hope to hold it firmly and forever in place...
cool!
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:starfleetapprove:
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a question, if i may...

does space goat farts = fluffy in webot talk?...

'cuase that kinda funny...
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a question, if i may...

does space goat farts = fluffy in webot talk?...

'cuase that kinda funny...
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lmao!
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a question, if i may...

does space goat farts = fluffy in webot talk?...

'cuase that kinda funny...
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lmao!
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me too!...
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It is very simple, but I do not know how to explain it without there being a 'distortion' to my words. It' feels' too simple, but it is not.

Light is everywhere. 'Rodin's' math allows a 'hole' to exist where the z-pinch converges in its exact center. But, it is not a hole, it is merely a convergence area that 'allows' light to exist (manifest) in our material universe. The convergence point is the center of a moving, self perpetuating, torus...the Rodin Coil. It is the convergence point that 'moves' throughout the matrix of spirals each one generates. Is is not the light that is moving. Light exists everywhere in another, higher realm. (BTW, this would explain why light is a constant)

Got to head out. I'll keep trying to flesh it out.
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my god.... that makes sense and ties it together for me, awesome.
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however, it was a serious ?...
hf
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bmp For GLP's Esoteric Scientist!

Should make that your forum title.

"Esoteric Scientist"
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however, it was a serious ?...
hf
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No. I had a brief e-mail exchange with George Ure and Space Goat Farts was created before knowledge of the fluff.
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:bmp: For GLP's Esoteric Scientist!

Should make that your forum title.

"Esoteric Scientist"
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thumbs
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It is very simple, but I do not know how to explain it without there being a 'distortion' to my words. It' feels' too simple, but it is not.

Light is everywhere. 'Rodin's' math allows a 'hole' to exist where the z-pinch converges in its exact center. But, it is not a hole, it is merely a convergence area that 'allows' light to exist (manifest) in our material universe. The convergence point is the center of a moving, self perpetuating, torus...the Rodin Coil. It is the convergence point that 'moves' throughout the matrix of spirals each one generates. Is is not the light that is moving. Light exists everywhere in another, higher realm. (BTW, this would explain why light is a constant)

Got to head out. I'll keep trying to flesh it out.
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my god.... that makes sense and ties it together for me, awesome.
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applause

I've got some visuals coming up.
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Dood, you're awesome! thumbs


Good to see you still spreading the mind boundaries for yourself and others ;)

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Dood, you're awesome! thumbs
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:thumbup:
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however, it was a serious ?...
hf
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No. I had a brief e-mail exchange with George Ure and Space Goat Farts was created before knowledge of the fluff.
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just because the name was created before knowledge doesn't elimate the possibility or probability you are speaking of the same thing with 2 different name...also semi linear thinking and isn't the webots designated purpose to identify trend,novelty etc. before such existance?...

hf

ooh, and bump for title of thread and simplicity!...

ps, i c s t p c...lol
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From my 'revelation' last night, light does not move. Light is actually everywhere, but it exists super-luminally. A cause occurs (the meeting up of the two counter rotating vortexes) and its effect is that it slows down the 'area' around itself (which is all super-luminal light) and allows light to become visible in 3 dimensions...what we call 'materiality'.
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