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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1446074  Germany09/15/2011 08:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
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birdie  User ID: 764206 United States09/15/2011 08:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | as for the UFO: Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1446074 [link to i54.tinypic.com] But, as always, this thread will only turn in cycles from now on because morans don´t bother to READ what has been written before. Seriously? You have GOT to be kidding me. You have a VIDEO of the EXPLOSIONS in the building ... ...WITH THE SOUNDS.... and what you focus on is some, gray part in the smoke? This is a video that is consistent with the other audible explosions, and the only one I've seen with the charges igniting visibly, but you guys want to talk about a fucking UFO. Idiots - one and all.  |
| birdie User ID: 764206 United States09/15/2011 08:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | sooooo? nothing resembling the "UFO" in your pics, as opposed to the fake video. The evidence is overwhelming, the video is faked, we don´t need such BS spreading *** as propheticseer. Anyone here, such as yourself, who would so quickly announce this video as a fake only marks themselves as a SHILL and a MORAN.  |
| birdie User ID: 764206 United States09/15/2011 08:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | How is this debunked? Quoting: birdie You people are total IDIOTS. There is NO SIMILARITY between the two videos. THINK ABOUT IT. It doesn't matter one bit if the new footage is a mirror-image piece of footage - not ONE bit. The old footage that you all are pissing yourselves over is a STATIC non-moving image, obviously shot from a camera sitting on a tripod from some distance away. The new footage is a HANDHELD shot, and is either closer to the building or more zoomed in. Who cares if "propheticseer" or whoever the fuck put it up reversed it? What difference does that make? NONE! They are OBVIOUSLY NOT TAKEN FROM THE SAME FOOTAGE. Good grief, GLP has some seriously RETARDED people on it sometimes. You probably don´t know how easy it is to make a small part of a bigger video appear shaky... Just look, not one frame of the new video shows an area outside of the old video. They're not even from the same angle! They are only from the same side of the building. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1446074 Germany09/15/2011 08:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | as for the UFO: Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1446074 [link to i54.tinypic.com] But, as always, this thread will only turn in cycles from now on because morans don´t bother to READ what has been written before. Seriously? You have GOT to be kidding me. You have a VIDEO of the EXPLOSIONS in the building ... ...WITH THE SOUNDS.... and what you focus on is some, gray part in the smoke? This is a video that is consistent with the other audible explosions, and the only one I've seen with the charges igniting visibly, but you guys want to talk about a fucking UFO. Idiots - one and all. Maybe you should look at the evidence provided that this video is a fake, before calling other people idiots. I "focused" on the UFO because you brought it up, claiming it to be an antenna, what is obviously not the case. Soooo, just for you, dear moran, here is the evidence, have a look: oooold video: description: Explosion heard at 0:11 mark, just before east penthouse collapse. Note: No one disputes the fact that WTC 7 got pulled. new, imho fake video: WTC7 from the other side: [link to 911research.wtc7.net] So, obviously the video was mirrored. I could live with that, if the rest of the video was authentic. But as shown by me in this screenshot [link to imageshack.us] , when unmirrored, the two videos align perfectly and share the same perspective. So either the two cameramen were standing next to eachother or the new video was faked out of the old one. Or the old one has been tampered with. Your call, i´ll go with the new one being fake. You don´t seem to understand how easy videos can be faked, the sound is probably taken from a controlled demolition video. Mirror the old video, zoom in on it, shake the "camera" (more like a frame controlled with the mouse) a bit, add funky explosions and you´re done, the new 9/11 hit video to be debunked by government shills. Just saying, people should be more sceptical when new footage comes. This case shows it clearly, most people won´t research on their own. |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1551851 United States09/15/2011 08:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | you can plainly see that as the supports began to fail the building began to cumple and the windows popped out and electrical connections were sparking as they broke and shorted. Nothing new here. Quoting: debunker 1322127 DEBUNKED  you can plainly see that as the supports began to fail the building began to cumple and the windows popped out and electrical connections were sparking as they broke and shorted. Nothing new here. Quoting: debunker 1322127 DEBUNKED Electricity should of been shut off shortly after firefighters arrived |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1446074 Germany09/15/2011 08:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | sooooo? nothing resembling the "UFO" in your pics, as opposed to the fake video. The evidence is overwhelming, the video is faked, we don´t need such BS spreading *** as propheticseer. Anyone here, such as yourself, who would so quickly announce this video as a fake only marks themselves as a SHILL and a MORAN. Just read page 12 and following to see how this video was debunked, you´re ridiculing yourself. This thread wasn´t unpinned for nothing. I think you are the shill. Shilling for stupidity. |
| birdie User ID: 764206 United States09/15/2011 08:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | as for the UFO: Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1446074 [link to i54.tinypic.com] But, as always, this thread will only turn in cycles from now on because morans don´t bother to READ what has been written before. Seriously? You have GOT to be kidding me. You have a VIDEO of the EXPLOSIONS in the building ... ...WITH THE SOUNDS.... and what you focus on is some, gray part in the smoke? This is a video that is consistent with the other audible explosions, and the only one I've seen with the charges igniting visibly, but you guys want to talk about a fucking UFO. Idiots - one and all. Maybe you should look at the evidence provided that this video is a fake, before calling other people idiots. I "focused" on the UFO because you brought it up, claiming it to be an antenna, what is obviously not the case. No, I thought you were referring to the antenna as the UFO. I see the "ufo" now that you pointed it out, but so WHAT? What does the ufo have to do with the price of tea in China? There are all kinds of "ufos" in the 9/11 footage, e.g.'rods' streaking by at an estimated 2,000 mph, etc.. Is that why you think this is a fake? Well, then I guess that makes a whole lot of 9/11 footage fake too, eh? |
| icphotons User ID: 526584 United States09/15/2011 08:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1446074 Germany09/15/2011 08:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | No, I thought you were referring to the antenna as the UFO. I see the "ufo" now that you pointed it out, but so WHAT? Quoting: birdie What does the ufo have to do with the price of tea in China? There are all kinds of "ufos" in the 9/11 footage, e.g.'rods' streaking by at an estimated 2,000 mph, etc.. Is that why you think this is a fake? Well, then I guess that makes a whole lot of 9/11 footage fake too, eh? Holy shit NO. PLEASE read the rest of my post where i explained in length why i think this video is fake. Now i know how you guys got Bush as president... |
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| BuRn User ID: 1505703  Belgium09/15/2011 09:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This video has been removed because its content violated YouTube's Terms of Service. Quoting: ImSofaKingWeToddIt Hmmmm... Please read my comment to the end as otherwise you'll think I am a chill or one of the sheeple, which obviously is NOT the case... Nope man, the video still works. And I looked throught some debunk sites and saw photographs of WTC7 before it collapsed. On some photos you can clearly see extensive damage to one of the corners, going multiple stories high and a big rip in the middle of the building. I must say : for me the collapse has been debunked... HOWEVER : this is what I have always said : WTC1 and 2 collapsed due to the impact. Never did doubt about that. I start to be pretty convinced that WTC7 was not "pulled" but collapsed due to the damage. The video of BBC : your biggest universal screw up you can imagine by a news station wanting to have the biggest scope (something similar already happened in the past by announcing the death of somebody, don't remember who though). In cases like this, redaction of the news paper have their stories prepped on forehand very quickly : one for every possible outcome. Probably they started airing too soon due to the chaotic info they were receiving. BUT : THIS DOES NOT EXPLAIN THE MESSUPS IN THE DECISION CHAIN OF THE GOVERNMENT TO SCRAMBLE JETS AND TO RESPOND TO THE ATTACKS !!!!. As I said before : the things which happened may well have been executed by terrorists. The buildings that collapsed may be explained due to impacts and fire. But NOONE can make me believe that a government which was warned way on forehand (admitted by condoleeza rice) by interpol and other organizations that an attack of this scale might happen, makes screw up after screw up. My opinion has always been that US government did know on forehand what was going to happen. And they DID LET IT HAPPEN as it was extremely convenient for them as giving them a reason to start war in the Middle East and to fortify their influence there. IMHO they just did not expect the buildings to collapse and to have such a high death count. I think they calculated that 2 planes would impact the WTC, some other planes would impact other targets, but they never imagined the WTC1 and 2 to come down... But in the end they got what they wanted : war in the middle east and a collapsing Euro. But they did not expect the US economy to collapse... So another screw up :-) Are you kidding? That went according to plan as well. Dependant of the goal and who's behind it, you might be right |
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| BuRn User ID: 1505703 Belgium09/15/2011 09:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | as for the UFO: Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1446074 [link to i54.tinypic.com] But, as always, this thread will only turn in cycles from now on because morans don´t bother to READ what has been written before. Seriously? You have GOT to be kidding me. You have a VIDEO of the EXPLOSIONS in the building ... ...WITH THE SOUNDS.... and what you focus on is some, gray part in the smoke? This is a video that is consistent with the other audible explosions, and the only one I've seen with the charges igniting visibly, but you guys want to talk about a fucking UFO. Idiots - one and all. Maybe you should look at the evidence provided that this video is a fake, before calling other people idiots. I "focused" on the UFO because you brought it up, claiming it to be an antenna, what is obviously not the case. Soooo, just for you, dear moran, here is the evidence, have a look: oooold video: description: Explosion heard at 0:11 mark, just before east penthouse collapse. Note: No one disputes the fact that WTC 7 got pulled. new, imho fake video: WTC7 from the other side: [link to 911research.wtc7.net] So, obviously the video was mirrored. I could live with that, if the rest of the video was authentic. But as shown by me in this screenshot [link to imageshack.us] , when unmirrored, the two videos align perfectly and share the same perspective. So either the two cameramen were standing next to eachother or the new video was faked out of the old one. Or the old one has been tampered with. Your call, i´ll go with the new one being fake. You don´t seem to understand how easy videos can be faked, the sound is probably taken from a controlled demolition video. Mirror the old video, zoom in on it, shake the "camera" (more like a frame controlled with the mouse) a bit, add funky explosions and you´re done, the new 9/11 hit video to be debunked by government shills. Just saying, people should be more sceptical when new footage comes. This case shows it clearly, most people won´t research on their own. You guys in for some REAL science : go here [link to www.debunking911.com] About 85% sure the building did collapse. Before I did not believe it too, but then I never took the effort to go and lookup images other than those easily found. Look halfway the page and look at the damage of the building. Somewhere else on the site, there's a clear image of a huge rip in the middle of the building. So: probably very sure : collapse due to damage. Also proof on the site that most vids containing the order to pull the building proove just that parts of the original vid have been removed in a LOT of vids on youtube. I remain with my original thought : the attacks were executed by terrorists. Buildings collapsed due to damage. US Governmant probably warned on forehand that attack was imminent but did let it pass in order to have a reason to attack Iraq (but first Afghanistan because otherwise to suspicious). Believe me people, you are doing those who were aware of the imminent attack a pleasure by continuing believing the theories of building collapses and the government having placed explosives in the buildings on forehand. It is a DEAD trail. And you make it very easy for them this way : they can safely keep on denying. As they know in the end you won't find ANYTHING. Why? Because they DID NOT DO ANYTHING AT ALL. Just letting the events unfold as it did fit in their agenda. As multiple people already said : follow the moneytrail. It will probably bring you to some unexpected places and persons......... Last Edited by BuRn on 09/15/2011 09:10 PM |
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| birdie User ID: 764206 United States09/15/2011 09:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The fact that the shills jumped out of the woodwork so QUICKLY to "debunk" it and the fact that the video was removed from youtube tells one all one needs to know about whether or not the video is significant. Quoting: birdie Video is NOT removed from youtube. Yes, it is. Original poster is b0necrusher. His channel is gone. Look for yourself. |
| Fury User ID: 1008941 United States09/15/2011 09:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| birdie User ID: 764206 United States09/15/2011 09:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | His video is there, the channel is not: [link to www.youtube.com] Last Edited by birdie on 09/15/2011 09:42 PM |
| Bio-hazard User ID: 878454 United States09/15/2011 09:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This video looks mirrored to me. I don't think I can be convinced it wasn't. My question is, who made and released this video? Could this be politically motivated to try and make people look like crazies? Sorry OP, not trying to dis your post or anything, but looking at both those video's, it's very clear the image has been flipped. COUNTRY FIRST These are possibly the 5 best sentences you'll ever read: 1. You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity. 2. What one person receives without working for, another person must work for without receiving. 3. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. 4. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them, and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for, that my dear friend, is the beginning of the end of any nation. 5. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it. |
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| Swampgasser User ID: 1544919  Sweden09/15/2011 09:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | sooooo? nothing resembling the "UFO" in your pics, as opposed to the fake video. The evidence is overwhelming, the video is faked, we don´t need such BS spreading *** as propheticseer. Anyone here, such as yourself, who would so quickly announce this video as a fake only marks themselves as a SHILL and a MORAN. + 1000 |
| Swampgasser User ID: 1544919 Sweden09/15/2011 09:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | quoting About 85% sure the building did collapse. Before I did not believe it too, but then I never took the effort to go and lookup images other than those easily found. Look halfway the page and look at the damage of the building. Somewhere else on the site, there's a clear image of a huge rip in the middle of the building. So: probably very sure : collapse due to damage. Also proof on the site that most vids containing the order to pull the building proove just that parts of the original vid have been removed in a LOT of vids on youtube. About 85% sure the building did collapse. Funny ,,The demolition experts i talked dont buy that at all they say its school example of a nice clean well prepared demolition ! Last Edited by Swampgasser on 09/15/2011 09:56 PM |
| birdie User ID: 764206 United States09/15/2011 09:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The video description and title are as follows: Building 7 detonated - ORIGINAL new footage Quoting: Uploaded by b0necrusher on Sep 14, 2011 YES THIS IS THE ORIGINAL UPLOAD 9/14/11 5:26 PM, please do not mirror as mirrors are being suppressed by YT and people are getting strikes on their account...Never before seen video of 7 world trade center undergoing controlled demolition!! I always thought there was something fishy about that collapse...a tall skyscraper would not just fall straight down like that on it's own it would tip over DUH. OMG, people need to see this, NWO is so evil and lied before so logically everything they say now is a LIE... DOWN with the NWO...DOWN with globalized fascism...BELIEVE in 9/11 Truth |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 914377 United States09/15/2011 09:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Remember, it wasn't planes or explosives that brought down the building...it was box cutters and pilots that have never flown large aircraft before. Damn...these Al Qaeda guys good. Defeating our airspace and managing to drop steel reinforced buildings like at free fall speed. WOW...you sheep believe this crap. America is divided into two groups. Those that believe the media, and those who 'at least' question the media. Good luck to you all and see you on the other side. |
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| fellowearthling User ID: 1551691  New Zealand09/16/2011 01:16 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ...A few Billion of fraudulent $ benefit/s for one of their co-ops, such as Silverstein, is small change compared to their future gains through the larger Agenda 21 plan. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1524221 You may find this Youtube series of six (6) videos of interest. Why They Sunk The Titanic [link to www.youtube.com] Thanks for the links and insights... I was convinced that this was a real smoking gun. I must admit that I was wrong in that thinking. Good thing we have someone here that knew the other side of the building looks so much different! Quoting: ImSofaKingWeToddIt You and the other folks saying it's reversed are 100% correct! This is totally debunked! Thanks for the save. I won't waste another moment on this. Of course the UFO was thrown in to really make us look like tards! This is more muddying of the waters pain and simple. Too bad. I agree with you ~ it also had me fooled briefly ~ it does nothing to support the truthers but it doesn't prove some sort of controlled demolition didn't take place either which is still my belief based on the original, un-altered footage. "If you do not go within You WILL go without." A wiser man than I "Standing on truth Ensures eternal support." "There is a perfectly logical explanation for everything and a logically perfect everything for explanations." A phellow earthling |
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