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Iconoclastics (OP) User ID: 1550405 United States 09/15/2011 02:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: ***WARNING*** About this new alleged piece of WTC 7 Demolition footage... (Update: Proof Video Is Not Legit) After some initial research I am heavily leaning toward this being fake, unfortunately. The penthouse is on the wrong side relative to the front face of the building, this suggests video manipulation. "The person who is in love with their vision of community will destroy community. But the person who loves the people around them will create community everywhere they go." ~ Dietrich Bonhoeffer "Doubt is not a pleasant condition but certainty is absurd" ~ Voltaire "The World is my country, all mankind are my brethren, and to do good is my religion." ~ Thomas Paine On Twitter @Iconoclastics |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1532454 United States 09/15/2011 02:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: ***WARNING*** About this new alleged piece of WTC 7 Demolition footage... (Update: Proof Video Is Not Legit) I don't give a shit about this video. We all know it was brought down on purpose. What I want to see is at least 1 of the 38 or so videos that were confiscated from offices, garages, parking lots, and stores that had cameras pointing at the pentegon on that day. I hope someone leaks one some day. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1547273 United States 09/15/2011 02:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: ***WARNING*** About this new alleged piece of WTC 7 Demolition footage... (Update: Proof Video Is Not Legit) After some initial research I am heavily leaning toward this being fake, unfortunately. Quoting: Iconoclastics The penthouse is on the wrong side relative to the front face of the building, this suggests video manipulation. You do... understanding.... That........ Christ almighty.... Ya know maybe.... Someone was filming..... YA KNOW... FROM THE OTHER SIDE... GEE WHAT A NOVEL THOUGHT |
Iconoclastics (OP) User ID: 1550405 United States 09/15/2011 02:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: ***WARNING*** About this new alleged piece of WTC 7 Demolition footage... (Update: Proof Video Is Not Legit) One clue that it may very well be a fake is the URL embedded in the video. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1445810 People have done far worse for free publicity. ;) I think the fact that the penthouse is on the wrong side of the building according to that vantage point and that the video cuts off abruptly make it extremely suspect. It just doesn't feel right... "The person who is in love with their vision of community will destroy community. But the person who loves the people around them will create community everywhere they go." ~ Dietrich Bonhoeffer "Doubt is not a pleasant condition but certainty is absurd" ~ Voltaire "The World is my country, all mankind are my brethren, and to do good is my religion." ~ Thomas Paine On Twitter @Iconoclastics |
Iconoclastics (OP) User ID: 1550405 United States 09/15/2011 03:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: ***WARNING*** About this new alleged piece of WTC 7 Demolition footage... (Update: Proof Video Is Not Legit) After some initial research I am heavily leaning toward this being fake, unfortunately. Quoting: Iconoclastics The penthouse is on the wrong side relative to the front face of the building, this suggests video manipulation. You do... understanding.... That........ Christ almighty.... Ya know maybe.... Someone was filming..... YA KNOW... FROM THE OTHER SIDE... GEE WHAT A NOVEL THOUGHT You know what else is a novel idea? Doing a little research before you mock someone... Look at this picture and then this new footage and tell me what's wrong with this situation? [link to 911research.wtc7.net] "The person who is in love with their vision of community will destroy community. But the person who loves the people around them will create community everywhere they go." ~ Dietrich Bonhoeffer "Doubt is not a pleasant condition but certainty is absurd" ~ Voltaire "The World is my country, all mankind are my brethren, and to do good is my religion." ~ Thomas Paine On Twitter @Iconoclastics |
Iconoclastics (OP) User ID: 1550405 United States 09/15/2011 03:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: ***WARNING*** About this new alleged piece of WTC 7 Demolition footage... (Update: Proof Video Is Not Legit) I don't give a shit about this video. We all know it was brought down on purpose. Quoting: 4tunat1 What I want to see is at least 1 of the 38 or so videos that were confiscated from offices, garages, parking lots, and stores that had cameras pointing at the pentegon on that day. I hope someone leaks one some day. Yeah, when they confiscate dozens of pieces of footage and refuse to release any of it that is ridiculously suspect... "The person who is in love with their vision of community will destroy community. But the person who loves the people around them will create community everywhere they go." ~ Dietrich Bonhoeffer "Doubt is not a pleasant condition but certainty is absurd" ~ Voltaire "The World is my country, all mankind are my brethren, and to do good is my religion." ~ Thomas Paine On Twitter @Iconoclastics |
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Iconoclastics (OP) User ID: 1550405 United States 09/15/2011 03:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: ***WARNING*** About this new alleged piece of WTC 7 Demolition footage... (Update: Proof Video Is Not Legit) After some initial research I am heavily leaning toward this being fake, unfortunately. Quoting: Iconoclastics The penthouse is on the wrong side relative to the front face of the building, this suggests video manipulation. uh....because it was shot from the other side of the building? Look at this picture and then this new footage and tell me what's wrong with this situation? [link to 911research.wtc7.net] "The person who is in love with their vision of community will destroy community. But the person who loves the people around them will create community everywhere they go." ~ Dietrich Bonhoeffer "Doubt is not a pleasant condition but certainty is absurd" ~ Voltaire "The World is my country, all mankind are my brethren, and to do good is my religion." ~ Thomas Paine On Twitter @Iconoclastics |
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Iconoclastics (OP) User ID: 1550405 United States 09/15/2011 03:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: ***WARNING*** About this new alleged piece of WTC 7 Demolition footage... (Update: Proof Video Is Not Legit) Dude, take a minute, maybe a deep breath and turn your brain back on. I know 9/11 was an inside job but you have got to be more discerning than this. You cant just believe everything you find on the internet, regardless of whether or not it confirms your suspicions... "The person who is in love with their vision of community will destroy community. But the person who loves the people around them will create community everywhere they go." ~ Dietrich Bonhoeffer "Doubt is not a pleasant condition but certainty is absurd" ~ Voltaire "The World is my country, all mankind are my brethren, and to do good is my religion." ~ Thomas Paine On Twitter @Iconoclastics |
Iconoclastics (OP) User ID: 1550405 United States 09/15/2011 03:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: ***WARNING*** About this new alleged piece of WTC 7 Demolition footage... (Update: Proof Video Is Not Legit) "The person who is in love with their vision of community will destroy community. But the person who loves the people around them will create community everywhere they go." ~ Dietrich Bonhoeffer "Doubt is not a pleasant condition but certainty is absurd" ~ Voltaire "The World is my country, all mankind are my brethren, and to do good is my religion." ~ Thomas Paine On Twitter @Iconoclastics |
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Iconoclastics (OP) User ID: 1550405 United States 09/15/2011 03:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: ***WARNING*** About this new alleged piece of WTC 7 Demolition footage... (Update: Proof Video Is Not Legit) It's easy to see the video has been doctored, no doubt they demo'ed that building but this footage ain't doin' no one any good. It's poison for the well, nothing more and nothing less... "The person who is in love with their vision of community will destroy community. But the person who loves the people around them will create community everywhere they go." ~ Dietrich Bonhoeffer "Doubt is not a pleasant condition but certainty is absurd" ~ Voltaire "The World is my country, all mankind are my brethren, and to do good is my religion." ~ Thomas Paine On Twitter @Iconoclastics |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1551138 Greece 09/15/2011 03:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: ***WARNING*** About this new alleged piece of WTC 7 Demolition footage... (Update: Proof Video Is Not Legit) A. WTC 7 came down from controlled demolition B. The official story is office fires C. There is an immediate outcry by critical thinkers D. This 'outcry' has spread beyond control because it is TRUTH E. As the WTC7 TRUTH spreads, something has to be done to counter HYPOTHESIS: F. 10 years later they forge a video depicting what actually happened G. Previously unaware people, jump on the bandwagon H. The video is debunked, dropping peoples new high to a new low I. Previously unaware people now turn back to the official story as true, and become even more numb to all WTC7 and indeed 911 revelations GET IT if you cant make a convincing argument all that is left is to take the credibility out of the message that is beating your lies |
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Iconoclastics (OP) User ID: 1550405 United States 09/15/2011 03:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: ***WARNING*** About this new alleged piece of WTC 7 Demolition footage... (Update: Proof Video Is Not Legit) FACTS: Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1551138 A. WTC 7 came down from controlled demolition B. The official story is office fires C. There is an immediate outcry by critical thinkers D. This 'outcry' has spread beyond control because it is TRUTH E. As the WTC7 TRUTH spreads, something has to be done to counter HYPOTHESIS: F. 10 years later they forge a video depicting what actually happened G. Previously unaware people, jump on the bandwagon H. The video is debunked, dropping peoples new high to a new low I. Previously unaware people now turn back to the official story as true, and become even more numb to all WTC7 and indeed 911 revelations GET IT if you cant make a convincing argument all that is left is to take the credibility out of the message that is beating your lies Now I got what you're saying, yes I think it is an attempt to poison the well. Last Edited by Iconoclastics on 09/15/2011 03:47 PM "The person who is in love with their vision of community will destroy community. But the person who loves the people around them will create community everywhere they go." ~ Dietrich Bonhoeffer "Doubt is not a pleasant condition but certainty is absurd" ~ Voltaire "The World is my country, all mankind are my brethren, and to do good is my religion." ~ Thomas Paine On Twitter @Iconoclastics |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1551138 Greece 09/15/2011 03:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: ***WARNING*** About this new alleged piece of WTC 7 Demolition footage... (Update: Proof Video Is Not Legit) FACTS: Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1551138 A. WTC 7 came down from controlled demolition B. The official story is office fires C. There is an immediate outcry by critical thinkers D. This 'outcry' has spread beyond control because it is TRUTH E. As the WTC7 TRUTH spreads, something has to be done to counter HYPOTHESIS: F. 10 years later they forge a video depicting what actually happened G. Previously unaware people, jump on the bandwagon H. The video is debunked, dropping peoples new high to a new low I. Previously unaware people now turn back to the official story as true, and become even more numb to all WTC7 and indeed 911 revelations GET IT if you cant make a convincing argument all that is left is to take the credibility out of the message that is beating your lies GLPer's are absolutely horrible about reading before they post. For the 100th time I know building 7 was controlled demo, I am not arguing that point. What I am saying is this video is bullshit and people should not promote it as legit, that's all!!! Gosh... dude, take some of your own advise i was not suggesting that you are not aware that it was 'pulled' i was merely trying to explain why they need to fake a video of an event in order to show what ACTUALLY happened this is a rare example of faking something to make it look as it truly happened again i was not trying your powers of perception, but trying to explain in more detail what you had already pointed out ok? |
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Iconoclastics (OP) User ID: 1550405 United States 09/15/2011 03:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: ***WARNING*** About this new alleged piece of WTC 7 Demolition footage... (Update: Proof Video Is Not Legit) FACTS: Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1551138 A. WTC 7 came down from controlled demolition B. The official story is office fires C. There is an immediate outcry by critical thinkers D. This 'outcry' has spread beyond control because it is TRUTH E. As the WTC7 TRUTH spreads, something has to be done to counter HYPOTHESIS: F. 10 years later they forge a video depicting what actually happened G. Previously unaware people, jump on the bandwagon H. The video is debunked, dropping peoples new high to a new low I. Previously unaware people now turn back to the official story as true, and become even more numb to all WTC7 and indeed 911 revelations GET IT if you cant make a convincing argument all that is left is to take the credibility out of the message that is beating your lies GLPer's are absolutely horrible about reading before they post. For the 100th time I know building 7 was controlled demo, I am not arguing that point. What I am saying is this video is bullshit and people should not promote it as legit, that's all!!! Gosh... dude, take some of your own advise i was not suggesting that you are not aware that it was 'pulled' i was merely trying to explain why they need to fake a video of an event in order to show what ACTUALLY happened this is a rare example of faking something to make it look as it truly happened again i was not trying your powers of perception, but trying to explain in more detail what you had already pointed out ok? Yeah, you're right my bad. I have spent the last 30 minutes dealing with knuckle-heads calling me a shill and what not. Sorry about that, jumped to conclusions. Lesson learned. No disrespect intended. "The person who is in love with their vision of community will destroy community. But the person who loves the people around them will create community everywhere they go." ~ Dietrich Bonhoeffer "Doubt is not a pleasant condition but certainty is absurd" ~ Voltaire "The World is my country, all mankind are my brethren, and to do good is my religion." ~ Thomas Paine On Twitter @Iconoclastics |
Iconoclastics (OP) User ID: 1550405 United States 09/15/2011 03:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: ***WARNING*** About this new alleged piece of WTC 7 Demolition footage... (Update: Proof Video Is Not Legit) sorry, i cant edit my reply Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1551138 no hard feelings i know my written language can be confusing some times and yes that is a good analogy poisoning the well All good, my friend. How are things in Greece? "The person who is in love with their vision of community will destroy community. But the person who loves the people around them will create community everywhere they go." ~ Dietrich Bonhoeffer "Doubt is not a pleasant condition but certainty is absurd" ~ Voltaire "The World is my country, all mankind are my brethren, and to do good is my religion." ~ Thomas Paine On Twitter @Iconoclastics |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1551460 Denmark 09/15/2011 03:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: ***WARNING*** About this new alleged piece of WTC 7 Demolition footage... (Update: Proof Video Is Not Legit) Well the other active thread on this same subject seems to be biased. "it must be real footage". yes, we all know the buildings were brought down, but it shouldn't mean that Any footage promoting that need be accepted without question :s Besides what I know in my heart and my gut to be true, this looks fake in my opinion. As much as clear 'evidence' would be great to present to the non-believers and doubters, I won't be jumping on this bandwagon just because of a newly surfaced video, 10 years later? Nahh.. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1346428 United States 09/15/2011 03:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: ***WARNING*** About this new alleged piece of WTC 7 Demolition footage... (Update: Proof Video Is Not Legit) I don't give a shit about this video. We all know it was brought down on purpose. Quoting: 4tunat1 What I want to see is at least 1 of the 38 or so videos that were confiscated from offices, garages, parking lots, and stores that had cameras pointing at the pentegon on that day. I hope someone leaks one some day. Just the fact that we know the FBI was confiscating local security cameras within minutes of the attack is all you need to know. With all of the chaos going on that day, would it have really been top priority to immediately secure the video cameras? The FBI could have stopped in to the surrounding businesses the next week and collected the tapes. The fact that they did so immediately after the Pentagon was attacked is a smoking gun in itself. People were dying on the ground, and the FBI is giving priority to something that could be done anytime after that. Now consider that we still haven't seen any of this video. If a commercial plane hit the Pentagon, there would have been video proof and the government surely would have provided it by now. End of story. |
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Iconoclastics (OP) User ID: 1550405 United States 09/15/2011 03:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: ***WARNING*** About this new alleged piece of WTC 7 Demolition footage... (Update: Proof Video Is Not Legit) Well the other active thread on this same subject seems to be biased. "it must be real footage". yes, we all know the buildings were brought down, but it shouldn't mean that Any footage promoting that need be accepted without question :s Quoting: miodminds Besides what I know in my heart and my gut to be true, this looks fake in my opinion. As much as clear 'evidence' would be great to present to the non-believers and doubters, I won't be jumping on this bandwagon just because of a newly surfaced video, 10 years later? Nahh.. Smart thinking, if only others were as discerning. If people start touting this video as proof it is just going to blow up in their faces and make them look really, really bad. "The person who is in love with their vision of community will destroy community. But the person who loves the people around them will create community everywhere they go." ~ Dietrich Bonhoeffer "Doubt is not a pleasant condition but certainty is absurd" ~ Voltaire "The World is my country, all mankind are my brethren, and to do good is my religion." ~ Thomas Paine On Twitter @Iconoclastics |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1389434 United States 09/15/2011 03:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: ***WARNING*** About this new alleged piece of WTC 7 Demolition footage... (Update: Proof Video Is Not Legit) Dude, take a minute, maybe a deep breath and turn your brain back on. I know 9/11 was an inside job but you have got to be more discerning than this. You cant just believe everything you find on the internet, regardless of whether or not it confirms your suspicions... The vid of WTC7 explosions from propheticseer is an obvious fake. WTC7 was the shape of a trapezoid. The fake vid is a reversal of a shot of the the north side of the building (facing away from WTC1&2). This is the the side of the building with the longest side (length). The south side of the building (which this would be if it weren't fake) is the short length. Yet this video is of the long (north side) length of the trapezoid. Propheticseer is a pathetic fraud and disinfo agent. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1551138 Greece 09/15/2011 04:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: ***WARNING*** About this new alleged piece of WTC 7 Demolition footage... (Update: Proof Video Is Not Legit) sorry, i cant edit my reply Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1551138 no hard feelings i know my written language can be confusing some times and yes that is a good analogy poisoning the well All good, my friend. How are things in Greece? they are bombarding the populace with the good cop bad cop routine taking away perceptions from what is rally going on in addition to creating an impression of a one way street now they understand it is not working as well as they hopped sot they started with the war threatened by turkey in the end we are many, they are but a handful just keeping the Thermopylae long enough for the rest of the world to regroup one thing is for sure WE are in this together, whether in greece the us or lybia for that matter i've been around, its the same anywhere you go best wishes for your future pal |
arosebyanyothername User ID: 1551562 United States 09/15/2011 04:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: ***WARNING*** About this new alleged piece of WTC 7 Demolition footage... (Update: Proof Video Is Not Legit) FACTS: Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1551138 A. WTC 7 came down from controlled demolition B. The official story is office fires C. There is an immediate outcry by critical thinkers D. This 'outcry' has spread beyond control because it is TRUTH E. As the WTC7 TRUTH spreads, something has to be done to counter HYPOTHESIS: F. 10 years later they forge a video depicting what actually happened G. Previously unaware people, jump on the bandwagon H. The video is debunked, dropping peoples new high to a new low I. Previously unaware people now turn back to the official story as true, and become even more numb to all WTC7 and indeed 911 revelations GET IT if you cant make a convincing argument all that is left is to take the credibility out of the message that is beating your lies |
arosebyanyothername User ID: 1551562 United States 09/15/2011 04:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: ***WARNING*** About this new alleged piece of WTC 7 Demolition footage... (Update: Proof Video Is Not Legit) Just like with the birth certificate issue. After the 'original' fake one was put forth by Obama, which was proved to be totally fabricated; the next thing they did was create one or two other fake ones to accomplish the same diffusion we are witnessing here, so they could debunk them later. Stating that people were not looking at the correct one. |