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Tracking Nibiru throughout history

 
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Great research ty!
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Great research ty!
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Thanks for reading.
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Excellent, excellent thread! bump
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Excellent, excellent thread! bump
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Thank you. My hope is that you will question, ponder, and analyze the information I have provided. Nothing more.
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Excellent, excellent thread! bump
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Thank you. My hope is that you will question, ponder, and analyze the information I have provided. Nothing more.
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nice posts op!!! 5 stars :) +1 good karma fer ya!
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accused of mistranslating and misinterpreting Sumerian texts?
 Quoting: Vlad Tepes


Being "accused" of something does not guilty make.
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Actuakky i t is a documented fasct that Sitchin basically invented various texts, which look as you might do not even exist. He mistranslated to of course, but in my opinion inventing various texts is way worse. It is basically lying outright to your readers.


I challenge any one here to show me one single sumerian text(not one invented) that say Nibiru is on a 3600 year orbit.I challenge any one here that shows one single Sumerian text that says the Anunaki come from Nibiru. I challenge anyone here to show me one single Sumerian text that mentions any of the planets other the the visible 6 ( 7 including the moon)
Let me save you some time, they do not exist.

About 90 percent of what you say in the OP is false.

The only times the word Nibiru is used ( which is only a few) it is referring to Jupiter and or Mars when they CROSS INTO RETROGRADE. thus planet of crossing, any planet is Nibiru while it is crossing into retrograde( The Sumerian's have many modifiers such as this . )

What is really funny about Sitchins blatant lies is that it is not open to interpretation, the Sumerian's left Sumerian to Akkadian dictionaries for us () wasn't that nice of them) So there is absolutely no question what these terms mean. Also they left numerous Astronomical dictionaries, non of which show any of the claims made by Sitchin. The man was a fraud. This has been well proven , but you people just ignore the evidence, it is 10 years since he was utterly destroyed by Mike Heiser .


You people need to wake up . If you want to belief in a Planet x fine. But do not call it Nibiru.. you sound foolish to anyone who knows what it actually means. And saying things that are just false, like the Sumerian's believed it was a planet on a 3600 year orbit shows how little you actually know. You are spouting the lies and ramblings of one of the worst researchers in modern history .
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I called Nibiru by MANY names. I just used the name NIBIRU in the title.

Let me do you one better. What does Sitchen have to do with the Egyptians and the Hopi? How about the Dogon and the Zuni? What about the Hebrews? How about the prophets of the Bible, the Oracle of Delphi, Nostradamus, Edgar Cayce, Mother Shipton and all other ancient/modern day prophets?

The Sumerians are ONE of a plethora of myths the describe this same scenario using DIFFERENT NAMES. How do you explain the intimate knowledge of SIRIUS A, B, AND C of the Dogon tribe in Africa THOUSANDS OF YEARS before Sirius B was discovered?

How is it that cultures ALL OVER THE WORLD, whom never had contact with one another describe a similar event, it's cycle,and it eventual return? Is everybody lying? I think not.

To say that this thread is 90% false shows your absolute ineptitude at deciphering what you read. The SUMERIANS were MENTIONED ONCE IN THE FIRST SENTENCE of this thread THEN NOT MENTIONED AGAIN. What I presented is History like it or not. I did NOT make up these facts and i presented the links for ANYONE who wanted to do some research on there own. I have NEVER said that NIBIRU is on a 3600 year cycle. I said I LOOKED FOR EVIDENCE of such a cycle then placed what I found, which is geological and historical fact, in this thread. The Eruption of Mt Thera occurred around 3500 years ago and destroyed the Mediterranean World. That is FACT and UNARGUABLE. I DID NOT ask you to believe one way or the other. I presented evidence an allowed the reader to glean from it what they will.

NIBIRU is a name, nothing more nothing less.
"A Rose by any other name would smell as sweet."
What does this idiom mean? It means that NAMES do NOT MAKE THE THING. To get hung up on something as ridiculous as a name, it a disservice to our ancient fore-bearers, to our geological past, to our Holy Books, and to the UNSOLVED MYSTERIES of our PAST.

Do not come on my thread throwing around OPINION that NO ONE can verify to try and discredit all the ancient and Holy Myths and geological evidence of a cyclical pattern of destruction on this Planet. YOU are NOTHING but a single voice. The voice of our ancient peoples, geological evidence, 2000 Great Deluge myths, mind blowing archeology, and our prophets, outnumber and are heard louder than yours.

Peace.

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got me convinced. so when does all this go down again?
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I don't think anyone could give you an exact date. There is a lot of speculation and disinformation out there regarding the highly publicized end date of the Maya Calendar. Popular accepted date: 12/21/12. However, new calculations has put the "real" date at 10/28/11 or just around the time that comet Elenin is suppose to make it's pass.

I have done a ton of research and I have linked together myth, archeology, and history to make up a full picture.

Here is some of what I have found:

Kolbrin Bible (Egyptian Great Book) and other excerpts.
CRT:3:1 It is known, and the story comes down from ancient times, that there was not one creation but two, a creation ad a re-creation. It is a known to the wise that the Earth was utterly destroyed once, then reborn on a second wheel of creation.

CRT:3:2 At the time of the great destruction of Earth, God caused a dragon from out of Heaven to come and encompass her about. The dragon was frightful to behold; it lashed its tail, it breathed out fire and hot coals, and a great catastrophe was inflicted upon mankind. The body of the dragon was wreathed in a cold bright light and beneath, on the belly, was a ruddy hued glow, while behind it trailed a flowing tail of smoke. It spewed out cinders and hot stones, and its breath was foul and stenchful, poisoning the nostrils of men. Its passage caused great thunderings and lightnings to rend the thick darkened sky, all Heaven and Earth being made hot. The seas were loosed from their cradles and rose up, pouring across the land. There was an awful, shrilling trumpeting, which outpowered even the howling of the unleashed winds.


Mother Shipton:

A fiery dragon will cross the sky
six times before the earth shall die.
Mankind will tremble and frightened be
for the six heralds in this prophecy.

For seven days and seven nights
man will watch this awesome sight.
The tides will rise beyond their ken.
To bite away the shores and then
the mountains will begin to roar
and earthquakes split the plain to shore.

And flooding waters rushing in,
will flood the lands with such a din
that mankind cowers in muddy fen
and snarls about his fellow men.

Merlin: "The seas shall rise up in the twinkling of an eye, and the dust(memory) of the ancients shall be restored." The Prophecies of Merlin

Edgar Cayce:The Earth will be broken up in the Western Portion of America. The Greater portion of Japan must go into the sea. The upper portion of Europe will be changed as in the twinkling on an eye.

The Bible Matthew 24:30 At that time the sign of the Son(SUN) of Man will appear in the sky, and all the nations of the earth will mourn. They will see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of the sky, with power and great glory.
Revelation 18:
18 Then there came flashes of lightning, rumblings, peals of thunder and a severe earthquake. No earthquake like it has ever occurred since mankind has been on earth, so tremendous was the quake. The great city split into three parts, and the cities of the nations collapsed.... Every island fled away and the mountains could not be found.

The Bible Matthew 24:37-39

37. But as the days of Noah were, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.

38. For as in the days that were before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noah entered into the ark,

39. And knew not until the flood came, and took them all away; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.
I am wondering if when Jesus said this he actually meant "SUN" of man. Otherwise it doesn't really make sense. In the Bible it talks about us being the "children of God" why would there be a great returning of a "son" of man. The ancient Egyptians worshiped the "SUN DISC", Ra. He was their highest deity.

The Bible
Revelation 6:
12 I looked when He opened the sixth seal, and behold,[e] there was a great earthquake; and the sun became black as sackcloth of hair, and the moon became like blood. 13 And the stars of heaven fell to the earth, as a fig tree drops its late figs when it is shaken by a mighty wind. 14 Then the sky receded as a scroll when it is rolled up, and every mountain and island was moved out of its place. 15 And the kings of the earth, the great men, the rich men, the commanders,[g] the mighty men, every slave and every free man, hid themselves in the caves and in the rocks of the mountains, 16 and said to the mountains and rocks, “Fall on us and hide us from the face of Him who sits on the throne and from the wrath of the Lamb! 17 For the great day of His wrath has come, and who is able to stand?”

Nostrdamus:
C.1 Q.046
Tout au pres d'aux de Lestore et Mirande…… Very near Auch, Lectoure and Mirande
Grand feu du ciel entrois nuicts tumbera…….. a great fire will fall from the sky for three nights
Cause aduiendra bien stupende et mirande… The cause will appear both stupefying and marvellous
Bien peu apres la terre tremblera……….....…… shortly afterwards there will be an earthquake.
ApparoiStra vers le Septentrion…………… There will appear towards the North

Non loing de Cancer l'eStoille cheuelue…... Not far from Cancer the bearded star
Suze Sienne Boece Eretrion……………….. Susa , Siena , Boeotia , Eretria ,
Mourra de Rome grand la nuict diSperue….. The great one of Rome will die, the night over.

C.6 Q.97
Cinq et quarante degres ciel bruslera……... At forty-five degrees the sky will burn,
Feu approcher de la grand cite neufue….…. Fire to approach the great new city:
Instant grand flamme esparse sautera….… In an instant a great scattered flame will leap up
Quant on voudra des Normans faire preuue.. When one will want to demand proof of the Normans .

The Bible
Joel 2:
30 “ And I will show wonders in the heavens and in the earth:
Blood and fire and pillars of smoke.
31 The sun shall be turned into darkness,
And the moon into blood,
Before the coming of the great and awesome day of the LORD.



CRT:3:3 Men, stricken with terror, went mad at the awful sight in the Heavens. They were loosed from their senses and dashed about, crazed, not knowing what they did The breath was sucked from their bodies, and they were burnt with a strange ash.

Mother Shipton
He bares his teeth and fights and kills
and secrets food in secret hill
and ugly in his fear, he lies
to kill marauders, thieves and spies.

Man flees in terror from the floods
and kills, and rapes and lies in blood
and spilling blood by mankind's hand
will stain and bitter many lands.

CRT:3:4 Then it passed, leaving Earth enwrapped within a dark and glowering mantle, which was ruddily lit up inside. The bowels of the Earth were torn open in great, writhing upheavals, and a howling whirlwind rent the mountains apart. The wrath of the sky-monster was loosed in the Heavens. It lashed about in flaming fury, roaring like a thousand thunders; it poured down fiery destruction aid a welter of thick black blood. So awesome was the fearfully aspected thing that the memory mercifully departed from man; his thoughts were smothered under a cloud of forgetfulness.


Mother Shipton:
And when the dragon's tail is gone
man forgets and smiles and carries on.
To apply himself - too late, too late
for mankind has earned deserved fate.

His masked smile, his false grandeur,
will serve the gods their anger stir
and they will send the dragon back
to light the sky - his tail will crack.
Upon the earth and rend the earth
and man shall flee, king, lord and serf.


CRT:3:5 The Earth vomited forth great gusts of foul breath from awful mouths opening up in the land. The evil breath bit at the throat before it drove men mad and killed them. Those who did not die in this manner were smothered under a cloud of red dust and ashes, or were swallowed by the yawning mouths of Earth or crushed beneath crashing rocks.



Nostradamus: red hail covering the earth.-VIII.77
Merlin: A shower of blood shall fall, and a dire famine shall afflict mankind. The Red One will grieve for what has happened, but after an immense effort it will regain its strength.
Revelation 21

21 From the sky huge hailstones, each weighing about a hundred pounds,[a] fell on people. And they cursed God on account of the plague of hail, because the plague was so terrible.

Many, many times the word "RED" is used in these prophesies. Red, red, red. Why red? Because the 10th planet is known to be composed completely of iron. Iron oxide is red. The Red color is a huge sign for many of the prophets. When NIRUBU has been photographed it is completely enveloped in a red "cloud" of dust, and iron chunks"

The Hopi call it The Red Kachina. Many others call it the "Red Dragon" The iron oxide will stain the sea and land.

CRT:3:6 The first sky-monster was joined by another, which swallowed the tail of the one going before, but the two could not be seen at once. The sky-monsters reigned and raged above the Earth, doing battle to possess it, but the manly-bladed sword of God cut them to pieces, and their falling bodies enlarged the land and the sea.

This sounds very similar to the myth about the fall of "Lucifer". Lucifer means what? Morning star. Why morning star, because "the Destroyer(10th planet)" is only visible on the horizon lines(sunrise, sunset). Second sun, the sun god, Sun disc, Ra, Aten, I could go on and on with this.

CRT:3:7 In this manner, the first Earth was destroyed by calamity descending from out of the skies. The vaults of Heaven had opened to bring forth monsters more fearsome than any that ever hunted the uneasy dreams of men.


CRT:3:8 Men and their dwelling places were gone; only sky-boulders and red earth remained where once they were, but amidst all of the desolation, a few survived, for man is not easily destroyed. They crept out of caves and came down from the mountainsides. Their eyes were wild, and their limbs trembled; their bodies' shook, and their tongues lacked control. Their faces were twisted, and the skin hung loose on their bones. They were as maddened wild beasts driven into an enclosure before flames; they knew no law, being deprived of all the wisdom they once had, and those who guided them were gone.

Mother Shipton:
But the land that rises from the sea
will be dry and clean and soft and free.
Of mankind's dirt and therefore be,
the source of man's new dynasty.
and those that live will ever fear
the dragon's tail for many year
but time erases memory
You think it strange. but it will be.



CRT:3:9 The Earth, only true Altar of God, had offered up a sacrifice of life and sorrow to atone for the sins of mankind. Man had not sinned in deed, but in the things he had failed to do. Man suffers not only for what he does, but for what he fails to do. He is not chastised for making mistakes, but for failing to recognize and rectify them.
I thought this passage is incredibly powerful.


CRT:3:10 Then the great canopy of dust and cloud, which encompassed the Earth, enshrouding it in heavy darkness, was pierced by ruddy light, and the canopy swept down in great cloudbursts and raging storm waters. Cool moon-tears were shed for the distress of Earth and the woes of men.


CRT:3:11 When the light of the Sun pierced the Earth's shroud, bathing the land in its revitalizing glory, the Earth again knew day, for there were times of light and times of darkness. The smothering canopy rolled away, and the vaults of Heaven became visible to man. The foul air was purified, and new air clothed the reborn Earth, shielding her from the dark hostile void of Heaven.

CRT:3:12 The rainstorms ceased to beat upon the faces of the land, and the waters stilled their turmoil. Earthquakes no longer tore the Earth open, nor was it burned and buried by hot rocks. The landmasses were re-established in stability and solidity, standing firm in the midst of the surrounding waters. The oceans fell back to their assigned places, and the land stood steady upon its foundations. The Sun shown upon land and sea, and life was renewed upon the face of the Earth. Rain fell gently once more, and clouds of fleece floated across day skies.

CRT:3:13 The waters were purified, the sediment sank and life increased in abundance. Life was renewed, but it was different. Man survived, but he was not the same. The Sun was not as it had been, and a moon had been taken away.

This is indicative of a pole shift. The sun, our sun rises in the East and sets in the West. If we experience a pole shirt some have theorized that our current North pole will face NW. This would technically give us a new view of the Heavens.


Mother Shipton
And in some far - off distant land
some men - oh such a tiny band
will have to leave their solid mount
and span the earth, those few to count.

Who survives this then
begin the human race again.
But not on land already there,
but on ocean beds, stark, dry and bare.

Not every soul on earth will die,
as the dragon's tail goes sweeping by,
not every land on earth will sink,
but these will wallow in stench and stink,
of rotting bodies of beast and man,
of vegetation crisped on land.

But the land that rises from the sea
will be dry and clean and soft and free.
Of mankind's dirt and therefore be,
the source of man's new dynasty.
and those that live will ever fear
the dragon's tail for many year
but time erases memory
You think it strange. but it will be.


CRT:3:13 cont. Man stood in the midst of renewal and regeneration. He looked up into the Heavens above in fear for the awful powers of destruction lurking there. Henceforth, the placid skies would hold a terrifying secret.

CRT:3:14 Man found the new Earth firm and the Heavens fixed. He rejoiced, but also feared, for he lived in dread that the Heavens would again bring forth monsters and crash about him.

CRT:3:15 When men came forth from their hiding places and refuges, the world their fathers had known was gone forever. The face of the land was changed, and Earth was littered with rocks and stones, which had fallen when the structure of Heaven collapsed. One generation groped in the desolation and gloom, and as the thick darkness was dispelled, its children believed they were witnessing a new creation. Time passed, memory dimmed and the record of events was no longer clear. Generation followed generation, and as the ages unfolded, new tongues and new tales replaced the old.


Mother Shipton:
And before the race is built anew,
a silver serpent comes to view
and spew out men of like unknown
to mingle with the earth now grown
cold from its heat and these men can
enlighten the minds of future man
to intermingle and show them how
to live and love and thus endow.
the children with the second sight.
a natural thing so that they might
grow graceful, humble and when they do
the golden age will start anew.

Maya Long Date Calendar marks the end of one cycle and the "re-birth of the world".

An ancient Hopi Prophesy states, "When the Blue Star Kachina makes it's appearance in the Heavens, the Fifth world will emerge. The Great day of Purification.


Mother Shipton
The dragon's tail is but a sign
for mankind's fall and man's decline.
and before this prophecy is done
I shall be burned at the stake, at one
My body singed and my soul set free
You think I utter blasphemy
These things have come to me
this prophecy will come to be.

The Bible
Revelations 21:1-3
Then I saw a new heaven and a new earth, for the first heaven and the first earth had passed away, and there was no longer any sea. I saw the Holy City, the new Jerusalem, coming down out of heaven from God, prepared as a bride beautifully dressed for her husband. And I heard a loud voice from the throne saying,

"Now the dwelling of God is with men, and he will live with them. They will be his people, and God himself will be with them and be their God.
 Quoting: Seer777


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Best thread and research yet. Great job and thanks.. well, "thanks" is kind of tounge in cheak knowing what's coming down the pike... er, around the corner, er, right now.... bump and 5.bump
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What you should really be worried about it something that is actually happening, Our solar systems movement into a denser region of " The local fluff nebula " If 2012 gets us it will be the combination of the local fluff, the solar max, and or a superwave event .
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That is clearly a false statement.

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Clearly? According to whom? You? Shall I bow before your logic?

Tit for tat.

Stop spamming my threads with your beliefs. that is ALL they are. YOUR BELIEFS.

If you spam my thread again I will delete your posts.
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And yet, somehow, there exist no records whatsoever, not too be found anywhere of a planetary body encroaching on the inner solar system.

If nothing else, this is the blatant logical fallacy and huge “inconsistency.” They were great astronomers. Yet they all managed to miss this gigantic event.


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Who missed it?The Plethora of cultures who described nearly the same celestial body?

The Chinese called it the Red Dragon. The Hopi the Red Kachina, The Egyptians/Hebrews The Destroyer, the Maya the Red Comet.

There is a description of the Egyptians account I placed two threads up. All the sentences are bolded for reading convenience.

Look, I find it to be a bit too coincidental that you and Astro decide to attack my threads on the same day at the same time, not allowing me proper time to rebuttal. You are both spamming my threads with a bunch of conjecture and YOUR beliefs. You are both playing a word game. Trying to twist words to prove something I had no intention of relaying to the forum.

I gave information. Nothing more nothing less. The people can decide for themselves if it has a ring of truth or is dismissible.

History is as history does. The Bronze Age collapse happened. As did the eruption of Mt Thera. 3600 years ago. Coincidence? Decide for yourself. Don't spam my thread using twisted semantics.
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So now you are just goona remove my posts , should I log on with my other computer . are you goona remove any one that says something you do not like . how about this I dedicate a thread to your dumbass
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So now you are just goona remove my posts , should I log on with my other computer . are you goona remove any one that says something you do not like . how about this I dedicate a thread to your dumbass
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My kitteh had a seizure and almost died while I have been attempting to respond to you. Couple that with my responses disappearing after I hit "post" and a really slow internet response and you get what we have here.

Please give me some time to find an appropriate response to your questions and quit spamming my thread.

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So now you are just goona remove my posts , should I log on with my other computer . are you goona remove any one that says something you do not like . how about this I dedicate a thread to your dumbass
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My kitteh had a seizure and almost died while I have been attempting to respond to you. Couple that with my responses disappearing after I hit "post" and a really slow internet response and you get what we have here.

Please give me some time to find an appropriate response to your questions and quit spamming my thread.

My heart and mind are with my dying kitty right now.
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Good luck with you Kitty OP. Hopefully everything will be okay.
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Good luck with you Kitty OP. Hopefully everything will be okay.
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Thank you so much. He just had another seizure. I think he's dying. He has been with me for 12 years. He is my best friend. My husband is at our beach house so I am having to deal with this alone.
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Regardless of dates being set for Nibiru's(or whatever you choose to call "IT") arrival,there seems to be a cycle to this planet which occurs every 3500-3600 years. A cycle of destruction then re-creation.

Our little blue planet is billions of years old. It is ego-centric and a bit deluded to believe that WE(our current time)are the single greatest creation of this planet though out ALL of that history and time. We also all know that human beings have a tendency to spread quickly. Over billions of years or even the recent millions, our record of history on this planet does not go back THAT far. If human being have been around for at least 30,000 years with the same level of intellect and cunning we today possess, then why is it hard to believe we haven't already done this before?

If there was this cycle, a cycle that re-births Earth, it would have to keep re-occurring to keep population on this planet stabilized. Each cycle bring human kind to the next evolutionary level due to the benevolent sources returning as well.

From Homo Erectus--->man--->civilized man--->modern man--->?
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Nice thread, Seer777.

How is your Kitty?too_sad

My own one is ten years old and sleeping now on my bed. I'm glad he's still healthy and happy! And I hope it will be for long!





The real date of Thera's explosion seems to be 1643 BC (+/- 20 y.), so approximately 3650 ans before today, so it could match actually with the 3600 years Nibiru's cycle.

But we all know by now that this cycle probably only existed in the imagination of Mr. Sitchin. Or maybe he had hidden sources, which he couldn't share.

Did you research traces of another catastrophic volcanic event like Thera's explosion 7200 years or 10800 years before our era?
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Nice thread, Seer777.

How is your Kitty?too_sad

My own one is ten years old and sleeping now on my bed. I'm glad he's still healthy and happy! And I hope it will be for long!





The real date of Thera's explosion seems to be 1643 BC (+/- 20 y.), so approximately 3650 ans before today, so it could match actually with the 3600 years Nibiru's cycle.

But we all know by now that this cycle probably only existed in the imagination of Mr. Sitchin. Or maybe he had hidden sources, which he couldn't share.

Did you research traces of another catastrophic volcanic event like Thera's explosion 7200 years or 10800 years before our era?
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He is doing better. thank you for asking. He is eating again which I am taking as a good sign.

The eruption of mount Thera is in debate as to when it actually occurred. There is a 100 year or so discrepancy depending on who you ask or talk to.
There also seem to be evidence of MANY, many, catestrophic volcanic eruptions around (can't pinpoint) the same time as Mt. Thera the world over:
I did some more research on other possible volcanic events of note around 3500 years ago. The number of occurrences is a bit eerie. I am sure there are more, this was what I could find in under 10 minutes. Judge for yourself:

The Eruption of Thera site of one of the largest volcanic eruptions in recorded history 3500 years ago
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Rincón de la Vieja Volcano is an active andesitic complex volcano in north-western Costa Rica, about 25 km from Liberia, in the province of Guanacaste. Little is known about Rincón de la Vieja's early eruptive history. It lies within a larger caldera, which indicates that a very large eruption probably occurred thousands of years ago. Analysis of nearby pyroclastic flow deposits shows that they were erupted in a moderately large eruption about 3500 years ago

Mt.St.Helens happened 3500 years ago which produced 13 times more material than in 1980.

Hayes Volcano Southcentral Alaska
1500 BC Hayes Volcano was largely destroyed in its last eruption about 3500 years ago and is difficult to detect, even from the air.

It is believed Chato first erupted 38,000 years ago during the Pleistocene period and last erupted about 3,500 years ago. Costa Rica

Aniakchak (Alaska) erupted catastrophically about 3500 years ago and has exhibited much post-caldera activity. It is considered active, and consists of a 10 km-wide by 0.5 to 1.0 km deep caldera that was formed during this major eruptive event.


Yes, further down the first post of this thread I mentioned the eruption of Mt. Etna around 5100 BCE. This was the information I mentioned that NASA and SOA seemed to be interested in the link and abstract I provided.
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OK! This date (1500 BC) seems to correspond to a volcanic paroxysmic activity. But one date doesn't make a cycle.

What about 4500 BC and 8000 BC??? No eruptive activity?

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Oops! I wanted to say 5000 and 8500!
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Here you go. This is a contribution from another member here on this thread. tracking Nibiru back to 40000 BCE. Our dates don't exactly match up but that is because they (geologists/scientists) can not accurately pinpoint eruption dates. Also, look at the bottom of the first post. It goes back to 5100 BCE. The eruption of Mt. Etna. NASA and SOA were interested enough in this particular eruption to do a study on it.



Year Dates:

2012 AD

1648 BC: A volcanic eruption destroyed the Late Bronze Age culture of the Island of Santorini, Greece. Carbon dating of ash fall out in Iceland dates this to 1650 B.C. [link to www.telusplanet.net]

5308 BC: But around 5300 B.C. this climate-driven environmental abundance started to decline, and most humans began leaving the increasingly arid region. “Around 5,500 to 6,000 years ago the Egyptian Sahara became so dry that nobody could survive there,” said Stefan Kröpelin, a geoarchaeologist at the University of Cologne in Germany and study co-author. Without rain, rivers, or the ephemeral desert streams known as waddis, vegetation became sparse, and people had to leave the desert or die, Kröpelin says. [link to varnam.org]

8968 BC: The principals of Enki's lineage, in their competition among themselves, transferred much advanced technology to their Earthling minions. Marduk, Enki's eldest son, married to the Adapite Earthling Sarpanit, forged an alliance with the Astronaut Corps (Igigi). Following Marduk's example, the Igigi took Earthling women and captured the Landing Place in Lebanon, and in 8970 B.C., in the name of Marduk's son Satu, were advancing on the Spaceport in Sinai. Gibil, another of Enki's sons, taught Earthlings commanded by Marduk's grandson Horon to make iron weapons. [link to schooloftantra.net]


12628 BC: Rydno is a complex of archeological sites along the Kamiennna River valley between Skarżysko-Kamienna and Wąchock. Several hundred Paleolithic campsites have been located there, which makes it the world's largest accumulation of such finds. They extend over a number of periods, beginning with the Mousterian (Neanderthal) culture, followed by the Hamburg culture of reindeer hunters; the Final Paleolithic is represented there by the Komornica culture named after a village in Legionowo County. The best known Late Paleolithic campsites in the area, which include some dugout huts, belonged to the people preoccupied with hematite ore mining, from which ochre pigment used for body painting was being made. The red dye was widely traded, which is why rocks and minerals originating from distant regions of today's Poland, Slovakia and Hungary are found at Rydno. Pieces of "chocolate" flint brought into this area for processing were stored in quantities that were always the multiples of three. Because of this and other evidence it is believed that the Paleolithic people developed a counting system based on this number. A 12,600 BC Hamburg culture site with tents, camp-fire and stone meat baking devices was discovered in Olbrachcice, Wschowa County[1][5][6]. [link to instapedia.com] Beginning of Holocene EXTINCTION EVENT: [link to en.wikipedia.org]



16288 BC: Lemurian landmass (aka Kumari Kandam) south of India submerged for the final time. Some sources suggest Atlantis settled by Lemurian refugees. [link to drunkenlullabyes.wikidot.com]


19948 BC: 20,000 B.C., the peak of the last ice age--the atmosphere is heavy with dust, deserts, and glaciers span vast regions, and people, if they survive at all, exist in small, mobile groups, facing the threat of extinction. [link to www.2think.org]


23608 BC: 24000 BC: start of the second Mousterian Pluvial in North Africa. [link to wapedia.mobi] BC. Human cremations carried out. Climatic desiccation of Australia, Sahara and other parts of the world, with water locked up in the ice of the Ice Age. Sea levels some 450 feet below current levels, but larger vertical crustal movements. [link to www.goldenageproject.org.uk]

27268 BC: 27000 BC): extinction of Homo neanderthalensis[ Homo sapiens reach the islands that will be called Japan and may have arrived in the islands as much as 5,000 years earlier over ice sheets or land bridges

30928 BC

34588 BC: Homo sapiens become the dominant species on earth, with no serious rivals to their supremacy. [link to www.enotes.com]


38248 BC: Homo sapiens emerges in Africa. Although physically less powerful, he has a more prominent chin, a much larger brain volume, and superior intelligence. Homo sapiens will split into six major divisions, or stocks—Negroids, Mongoloids, Caucasoids, Australoids, Amerindians, and Polynesians, and some of these will have subdivisions (Caucasoids, for example, will include Alpine, Mediterranean, and Nordic stocks).

38,000 B.C.: food and drink
His control of fire, his development of new, lightweight bone and horn tools, weapons, and fishhooks, and his superior intelligence permit homo sapiens to obtain food more easily and to preserve it longer. Hunters provide early tribes with meat from bison and tigers, while other tribespeople fish and collect honey, fruits, and nuts (as shown by cave paintings near Aurignac in southern France).

38,000 B.C.: population
Increased availability of food in the next few thousand years will lead to an increase in human populations.

[link to www.enotes.com]

41908 BC: 42,000 B.C.: exploration, colonization
The continent that will be called Australia is populated by the earth's first seafaring people. Colonists whose ancestors left Africa perhaps 30 millennia ago have arrived across a narrow expanse of ocean from the Asian mainland (see New Guinea, 28500 B.C.). [link to www.enotes.com]

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Data suggests -- even SCREAMS -- there is a 3660 year periodicity to major EXTINCTION/CLIMATE-CHANGE events that drive human development/evolution.

The NEXT time is 2012 -- no kidding. [link to www.google.com]
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Wow--very good research!!!
Hope kitty is ok....Put you in fav.
Keep us up to date.
This might be a little off-subject,but...
Do you have any thoughts about the so-called Nancy and Zeta information?

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Excellent info. I'm on page 3 right now and plan to read everything. One thing, however, I'd like to ask. There is the "school of thought" claiming MAN is responsible for all this. The MILITARY MAN, to be exact.

The US military have been experimening with powers (HAAARP, CHEMTRAILS etc.) indicated in their docs ie. "Owning the Weather by 2025" and so on, powers as I said, that will, ultimately, escape their control.

There's also, apparently, a seriously powerful clan/ruling elite who are insanely set on setting afoot the "Rapture" as per the Bible.

There is good evidence that "they" are playing with the planet as if it was their personal toy.

Anyway, I'm just asking. I must continue with this fascinating read now. hf
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Dating Nibiru (Planet of the Crossing) throughout history.

According to the Ancient Sumerians, Nibiru has an orbital pattern that is around 3600 years. This left me curious to know if 3500-3600 years ago there were any significant Earth-based disasters around that time. Calculate 2011-3600=1589 BCE(BC). What I found has been no less than shocking and further proof of a 3600 year cycle that occurs on this Planet.

What I found first:
[link to en.wikipedia.org]

1570 BC: Cretan palaces at Knossos and other centres flourish despite disasters.

This intrigued me so I attempted to find these particular disasters. Turns out it was during this particular time period a SERIES of disasters struck the planet leading to The Bronze Age Collapse.

Notable Disaster:
The Eruption of Thera

A little History:
The Minoan eruption on the island of Thera (present-day Santorini about 100 km(70 miles) distant from Crete) occurred during the LM IA period. The island of Santorini is the site of one of the largest volcanic eruptions in recorded history: the Minoan eruption (sometimes called the Thera eruption), which occurred some 3600 years ago at the height of the Minoan civilization. The eruption left a large caldera surrounded by volcanic ash deposits hundreds of feet deep and may have led indirectly to the collapse of the Minoan civilization on the island of Crete, 110 km (68 mi) to the south, through a gigantic tsunami. Another popular theory holds that the Thera eruption is the source of the legend of Atlantis.

Significant Minoan remains have been found above the Late Minoan I era Thera ash layer, implying that the Thera eruption did not cause the immediate downfall of the Minoans. As the Minoans were a sea power and depended on their naval and merchant ships for their livelihood, the Thera eruption caused significant economic hardship to the Minoans. Whether these effects were enough to trigger the downfall of the Minoan civilization is under intense debate.

How The Eruption of Thera Changed the World
Heather Whipps
Date: 24 February 2008

[link to www.livescience.com]

The world map might look differently had the Greek volcano Thera not erupted 3,500 years ago in what geologists believe was the single-most powerful explosive event ever witnessed.
Thera didn't just blow a massive hole into the island of Santorini – it set the entire ancient Mediterranean onto a different course, like a train that switched tracks to head off in a brand new direction.
Minoan culture, the dominant civilization in the Mediterranean at the time, crumbled as a result of the eruption, historians believe, changing the political landscape of the ancient world indefinitely. Environmental effects were felt across the globe, as far away as China and perhaps even North America and Antarctica.
The legend of Atlantis and the story of the Biblical plagues and subsequent exodus from Egypt have also been connected to the epic catastrophe.

Dwarfed the atomic bomb
Historians and archaeologists have had trouble deciding on the year Thera erupted, with dates ranging anywhere from 1645 BC to 1500 BC. Studies of ash deposits on the ocean floor have revealed, however, that when the volcano did blow, it did so with a force dwarfing anything humans had ever seen or have seen since.
There are no first-person accounts of what happened that day, but scientists can compare it to the detailed records available from the famous eruption of Krakatoa, Indonesia, in 1883.
That fiery explosion killed upwards of 40,000 people in just a few hours, produced colossal tsunamis 40 feet tall, spewed volcanic ash across Asia, and caused a drop in global temperatures and created strangely colored sunsets for three years. The blast was heard 3,000 miles away.
Thera's eruption was four or five times more powerful than Krakatoa, geologists believe, exploding with the energy of several hundred atomic bombs in a fraction of a second.
An absence of human remains and valuables like metal suggest that the Minoan residents of Santorini predicted the eruption and the island was evacuated, but the culture as a whole did not fare as well.
Based on the nearby island of Crete, the powerful Minoan civilization declined suddenly soon after Thera blew its top. Tsunamis spawned by the eruption would have swamped its naval fleet and coastal villages first off, historians think. A drop in temperatures caused by the massive amounts of sulphur dioxide spouted into the atmosphere then led to several years of cold, wet summers in the region, ruining harvests. The lethal combination overran every mighty Minoan stronghold in less than 50 years.
In just a short time, their peaceful, efficient bureaucracy made way for the warring city-state system of ancient Greece to dominate the Mediterranean. The Aegean would turn out to be a fundamental building block for the history of Europe, and the Minoan decline changed its early foundation completely.

Famous legends
Thera didn't just alter the cultural make up of Europe, it has kept adventurers and treasure hunters busy too.
When the Greek philosopher Plato described the lost city of Atlantis over a thousand years after the volcanic eruption, he may have been referring to Thera folklore passed down in Greece over many generations and exaggerated like a game of broken telephone.
The eruption has also been loosely linked with the Biblical story of Moses and the exodus from Egypt. The effects of Thera's eruption could have explained many of the plagues described in the Old Testament, including the days of darkness and polluting of the rivers, according to some theories.


The Bronze Age:
The Bronze Age is a period characterized by the use of copper and its alloy bronze as the chief hard materials in the manufacture of some implements and weapons. Chronologically, it stands between the Stone Age and Iron Age.

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The Bronze Age collapse:[/size]
The Bronze Age collapse is a transition in southwestern Asia and the Eastern Mediterranean from the Late Bronze Age to the Early Iron Age that some historians believe was violent, sudden and culturally disruptive. Cultural collapse of the Mycenaean kingdoms, the Hittite Empire in Anatolia and Syria, Egyptian Empire in Syria and Canaan interrupted trade routes and severely reduced literacy. In the first phase of this period, almost every city between Troy and Gaza was violently destroyed, and often left unoccupied thereafter: examples include Hattusa, Mycenae, Ugarit.

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

Ok, that's interesting, what else? What else occurred during the 16th century BCE (1599-1500BCE)?

1500BCE: Vedas are composed.
The Vedas (Sanskrit वेद véda, "knowledge") are a large body of texts originating in ancient India. Composed in Vedic Sanskrit, the texts constitute the oldest layer of Sanskrit literature and the oldest scriptures of Hinduism. Alluded to the existence of Vimanas:mythological flying machines described in Sanskrit epics.

1580 BCE:The Egyptians invented a new and better calendar. It is based on both the moon and a star. They observed the annual appearance of the brightest star in the sky, Sirius. This calendar was more advanced than the Babylonian calendar.

1550 BCE: Stonehenge is built

1540 BCE: History of ancient Israel and Judah—earliest date for Ahmose I founding the Eighteenth dynasty of Egypt.

1534 BC—The oldest dated star chart was made in Ancient Egypt



So lets go back ANOTHER 3600 years. Calculate: 1589-3600=5189. 5189 BCE(BC). So, what happened in the 6th Millennium BCE (6000 BCE-5000 BCE)? Obviously the 5189 BCE date is toward the end of the 6th Millennium BCE. Quote Wiki: During the 6th millennium BC, agriculture spread from the Balkans to Italy and Eastern Europe, and also from Mesopotamia to Egypt. World population was essentially stable at approximately 5 million, though some speculate up to 7 million.
[link to en.wikipedia.org]

What else?
The Eruption of Mt. Etna.
Quote Wiki: Thousands of years ago, the eastern flank of the mountain experienced a catastrophic collapse, generating an enormous landslide in an event similar to that seen in the 1980 eruption of Mount St. Helens. The landslide left a large depression in the side of the volcano, known as 'Valle del Bove' (Valley of the Ox). Research published in 2006 suggested this occurred around 6000 BC, and caused a huge tsunami, which left its mark in several places in the eastern Mediterranean. It may have been the reason the settlement of Atlit Yam (Israel), now below sea level, was suddenly abandoned around that time.[9]

A massive volcanic landslide off of Mt. Etna, Sicily caused a mega tsunami which devastated the eastern Mediterranean coastline on three continents.(1)
[link to en.wikipedia.org]

I followed the citation and found this:
Here it is:

SAO/NASA ADS Astronomy Abstract Service

Numerical simulations support the occurrence of a catastrophic tsunami impacting all of the eastern Mediterranean in early Holocene. The tsunami was triggered by a debris avalanche from Mt. Etna (Sicily, Italy) which entered the Ionian Sea in the order of minutes. Simulations show that the resulting tsunami waves were able to destabilize soft marine sediments across the Ionian Sea floor. This generated the well-known, sporadically located, ``homogenite'' deposits of the Ionian Sea, and the widespread megaturbidite deposits of the Ionian and Sirte Abyssal Plains. It is possible that, ~8 ka B.P., the Neolithic village of Atlit-Yam (Israel) was abandoned because of impact by the same Etna tsunami. Two other Pleistocenic megaturbidite deposits of the Ionian Sea can be explained by previous sector collapses from the Etna area.
[link to adsabs.harvard.edu]

Now, why would NASA and SAO (Smithsonian Astrophysical Observatory [link to www.cfa.harvard.edu] ) want to know about this particular event and tsunami? Hmmm... think Is it because they know about this 3600 year cycle? I think that is very likely.

From the Bible:
Daniel 12:6-12
One of them said to the man clothed in linen, who was above the waters of the river, "How long will it be before these astonishing things are fulfilled?"
The man clothed in linen, who was above the waters of the river, lifted his right hand and his left hand toward heaven, and I heard him swear by him who lives forever, saying, "It will be for a time, times and half a time. When the power of the holy people has been finally broken, all these things will be completed."
8. I heard, but I did not understand. So I asked, "My lord, what will the outcome of all this be?"
He replied, "Go your way, Daniel, because the words are closed up and sealed until the time of the end.
Many will be purified, made spotless and refined, but the wicked will continue to be wicked. None of the wicked will understand, but those who are wise will understand.
"From the time that the daily sacrifice is abolished and the abomination that causes desolation is set up, there will be 1,290 days.
Blessed is the one who waits for and reaches the end of the 1,335 days

Time=1
Times=2
Half of time=.5
=3.5 or approximately 3500 years.
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Cataclysm4: 1,600 BC- 1,500 BC.



According to Mike Baillie, a dendrochronologist at Queens University in Belfast in Northern Ireland there was a major temperature trough worldwide around 1,600 BC. Baillie had constructed an Irish bog oak dendochronology spanning the period from 5,000 BC to 1,000 AD. The Irish bog oaks showed a pattern of narrow rings, indicating extremely minimal growth, around 1,627 BC. In fact the rings were so narrow that Baillie could barely measure them indicating that weather conditions had been catastrophic. These narrow rings covered most of the 1,620s and unlike a major volcanic eruption lasted almost a decade. Even the largest volcanic eruptions only produce nuclear winter conditions for around three years. Baillie then compared his bog oak data against Greenland ice cores and a number of dates lined up indicated by ice core acid layers. These major weather events, much larger than volcanic induced nuclear winter conditions, occurred within thirty years of 210 BC, fifty years of 1,120 BC, ninety years of 3,150 BC and one hundred years of 4,400 BC. When new data was published in 1987 it showed another major acid layer within twenty years of 1,645 BC.



Mr. Val LaMarche of the University of Arizona specifically mentioned the year 1,627 BC as being a year with a particularly striking frost indicating a major weather variation. This was deduced from bristle cone pine dendrochronology. LaMarche had analyzed bristlecone pines from the White Mountains along the California and Nevada borders in the United States.



Cataclysm4. Arabia. 1,600 BC- 1,495 BC.




There are ancient ruins in southern Arabia that date back to a time when the area was fertile and well watered. In western Arabia, there are 28 fields of scorched and shattered stones that cover as many as 7,000 square miles each. The stones are sharp-edged, densely grouped and burned black. They are not volcanic and appear to date from the time when this area was lush and fertile and suddenly became scorched by intense heat transforming it into an instant desert. It was an intense blast of heat coupled to other catastrophic events. Under this area there is an enormous reservoir of water below the parched desert. The only source for such a large deposit of water could only have been heavy rains from the fertile times. What caused this intense heat surge and when?



Could this have been in the middle of the Second Millennium BC?



Or was it the Eighth Millennium BC?



How accurate are our radiation decay dating procedures anyway?



What had caused the heat surge onto the area? Not meteorites or comets or asteroids as they do not do this. Something else was traveling with the cosmic bodies and it was generating intense amounts of heat as well as radiation.



Cataclysm4: 1,600 BC- 1,495 BC. Babylon.



A dark age descended over Babylon that lasted one hundred years. At the same time the Amorite capital is sacked and the Mittani and Hurrian overlords lose their hold of the Assyrian Empire.



During the ninth year of the reign of Amaziduga, circa 1,629 BC, the king described seeing the cosmic body Ninsianna for a period of nine months. Was this a comet?



In the Babylonian Venus Tablets which was a set of astronomical records kept by Babylonian astronomers during the reign of King Ammizaduga in the 1,600s BC the planet Venus disappeared from view for nine months and four days during the ninth year of his reign. Venus is one of the brightest of the celestial objects and the skies are remarkably clear over Babylon. The archeoastronomer P. J. Huber deduced that the date of this event was, amazingly enough, 1,628 BC. The planet Venus could have been obscured by a dustveil event.



Cataclysm4: 1,600 BC- 1,495 BC. Britain.



Tree rings in Britain indicate enormous ashfall around 1,628 BC.



Around 1,500 BC the two thousand year old Neolithic civilization in Britain changed completely from that of a peaceful agrarian culture to that of one that focused on building fortifications and weapons of war. The old Neolithic sites such as Stonehenge and Avebury were abandoned and no new ones were created. There is no excavated evidence for foreign invasion or massive climate change.



Cataclysm4: 1,600 BC- 1,495 BC. China.



In a Silk text called the “Mawangdui Silk Almanac” there is a reference to a huge comet seen in the sky over China in 1,486 BC approximately that had ten tails and to the Chinese this indicated the worst of portents. This incidentally was the first comet recorded by the Chinese who plotted all cometary positions to occur thereafter. The comet was named “Lao-Tien-Yeh”, the Great God and became the Supreme God of China for a very turbulent and warlike period thereafter. This was by King Tang in the beginning of the Shang Dynasty. Incidentally in 1,486 BC the Egyptians recorded in the Tulli Papyrus that a great celestial disc of fire appeared in the Sky over the Temple of Karnak that the priests prostrated themselves in fear. This fiery disc was so unique that it was recorded as never having been seen before and was one rod in length by one rod in width and it extended to the limits of the four supports of the heavens. The Egyptian rod was 170 feet. The Egyptians used to say that the Full Moon was five cubits wide and the rod was one hundred cubits long. This was enormous. The Tulli Papyrus also stated that the aerial object broke up after several days had passed and became more numerous in the sky.



Coincidentally with this appearance a new god appeared in China. Zi Cheng, the third king of the Shang Dynasty, overthrew their rulers the Xiaw with the help of this new supreme God called Lao-Tien-Yeh, the “Great God”. This became the new ruler of the Universe and its symbol was a circle with a series of straight lines radiating in a fan shape beneath it. This is very similar to the new Supreme God symbols that suddenly appeared in the Middle East and Egypt bringing a new monotheism into previously pantheistic cultures.



Cataclysm4: 1,600 BC- 1,495 BC. Egypt.



Heavy falls of ash fell on the Nile Delta in Egypt killing off most plant life in Lower Egypt around 1,600 BC.



In Egypt the El Arish papyrus stated that there was a deep prolonged darkness and a pharaoh had died. An heir of this pharaoh was also injured in this period by heavenly fire that had killed his entourage.



Drastically deteriorating climatic conditions in the Levant caused the Hyksos people to overrun Egypt.



The fourteenth dynasty collapsed as the Hyksos overan the Nile Delta. The historian Manetho of Sais recorded that a “blast of God” prostated Egypt.



The “Tempest Stele” found reused in the third pylon in the Temple of Karnak tells of an extraordinarily ferocious storm that occurred during the reign of Ahmose 1, circa 1550 BC.



The “El Arish” text from the eastern Nile Delta described a deep prolonged darkness and the death of a pharaoh whose heir was injured and his entourage totally destroyed.



Other sources state that there was a mysterious mass death at Avaris during the XIII dynasty around this time period. Other large metropolitan centres were destroyed or abandoned at this time. These included Ithtaw and Hetepsenusret. Avaris was later renamed Rameses and the biblical Israelites were said to be enslaved in its reconstruction.


An odd coincidence from this period is that Atenism, the worship of Aten, the Sun Disc, which later became the official religion of Egypt, started in 1,486 BC. If it was the sun that was suddenly being worshipped as the supreme Deity why did the Egyptians not just refer to it as Ra, the sun’s traditional name and use the winged disc, the traditional symbol for it? This Atenist disc was a heavenly body that shone from above and sent down light and the literal translation of aten is disc.



Incidentally in 1,486 BC the Egyptians recorded in the Tulli Papyrus that a great celestial disc of fire appeared in the Sky over the Temple of Karnak and that the priests prostrated themselves in fear. This fiery disc was so unique that it was recorded as never having been seen before and was one rod in length by one rod in width and it extended to the limits of the hour supports of the heavens. The Egyptian rod was 170 feet. The Egyptians used to say that the Full Moon was five cubits wide and the rod was one hundred cubits long. This was enormous. The Tulli Papyrus also stated that the aerial object broke up after several days had passed and became more numerous in the sky. “In the year 22, in the third month of winter, in the sixth hour of the day, the scribes of the House of Life noticed that there was a disc of fire coming from the sky”. “The hearts of the scribes became terrified and confused, and they lay themselves flat on their bellies”. The fiery disc was described as “ a marvel never before known since the foundation of this land.”



The disc of fire was recorded as appearing early in the year that Tuthmosis overthrew his mother around 1,486 BC. This was the year before the advent of Atenism.



The Tulli papyrus states that the fiery disc divided up into smaller fiery discs until after a few days they became more numerous in the sky. The fragments then grew in size and shined in the sky more than the brightness of the sun. Fish and birds were also said to have fallen from the sky at this time. Ancient cultures often referred to meteors as birds or fiery fish, the firebird being a name for them amongst the ancient Greeks.



Cataclysm4: 1,600 BC- 1,495 BC. England.



Tree rings in England indicate enormous ashfall around 1,628 BC.



Cataclysm4: 1,600 BC- 1,495 BC. Germany.




Tree rings in Germany indicate enormous ashfall around 1,628 BC.


Cataclysm4: 1,600 BC- 1,495 BC. Greece



Greek tradition states that the Great Flood of Deucalion occurred around 1,630 BC though other sources state that the Great Flood occurred much earlier and in fact there may have been more than one Great Flood.




Great post OP.

The ark of Deucalion landed on Mount Tomaros in Greece.
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Re: Tracking Nibiru throughout history
Great research 238! I thank you for including it. I have found other references as well since writing this thread. Mainly American Indian, Maya, Inca, etc...

Unfortunately, scientist can not date the Mt. Thera eruption accurately. But there is a consensus around 3500-3600 years ago.

Through my research and others, it seems to be about a 40 year window the "Event" could have occurred. Sometime between 1620BCE and 1588BCE.

Here are just a few very sizable volcanic eruptions that I found around the same time. Possibly, THE SAME TIME.


I did some more research on other possible volcanic events of note around 3500 years ago. The number of occurrences is a bit eerie. I am sure there are more, this was what I could find in under 10 minutes. Judge for yourself:

The Eruption of Thera site of one of the largest volcanic eruptions in recorded history
3500 years ago.

Rincón de la Vieja Volcano is an active andesitic complex volcano in north-western Costa Rica, about 25 km from Liberia, in the province of Guanacaste. Little is known about Rincón de la Vieja's early eruptive history. It lies within a larger caldera, which indicates that a very large eruption probably occurred thousands of years ago. Analysis of nearby pyroclastic flow deposits shows that they were erupted in a moderately large eruption about 3500 years ago

Mt.St.Helens happened 3500 years ago which produced 13 times more material than in 1980.

Hayes Volcano Southcentral Alaska
1500 BC Hayes Volcano was largely destroyed in its last eruption about 3500 years ago and is difficult to detect, even from the air.

It is believed Chato first erupted 38,000 years ago during the Pleistocene period and last erupted about 3,500 years ago. Costa rica

Aniakchak (Alaska) erupted catastrophically about 3500 years ago and has exhibited much post-caldera activity. It is considered active, and consists of a 10 km-wide by 0.5 to 1.0 km deep caldera that was formed during this major eruptive event.

I am sure there are more but you get the idea. thoughts?
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Last Edited by Seer777 on 12/02/2011 10:25 PM
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12/02/2011 11:58 PM
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Good old thread...
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12/03/2011 12:00 AM
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Interesting....giant hoax or some validity?
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12/03/2011 12:08 AM
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