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Tracking Nibiru throughout history

 
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Stupid. Bullshit.

Nibiru would have destroyed earth 3600 years ago. But I guess that doesn't matter because you make your own shit up and believe stupid shit you see on the internet.
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Well, thanks for your link backed opinion. Please feel free to move along :)
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In this regards we'll have to respecfully disagree :)
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And you are welcome to that.

Listen, I don't have all the answers. These are theories based on the information I have connected through years of research, questions, and analysis.

Very suddenly last week the gigantic puzzle fell together at once, revealing the nature of man. It was really terrifying and I shook from the horror of it. My entire consciousness cracked open and some of the mysteries of this solar system was revealed to me. A veil lifted. My entire life came into a perfect focus where I literally saw all the steps i had taken to get there. Information I had so feverishly collected, stored and analyzed. It was almost enough to be pushed over the edge.

Instead, I gathered the information I found and gave it to others to consider and hopefully have time to prepare themselves.

There is a fourth level of consciousness called Cosmic Consciousness.

The only REAL truth is the truth that resonates with YOU.

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Stupid. Bullshit.

Nibiru would have destroyed earth 3600 years ago. But I guess that doesn't matter because you make your own shit up and believe stupid shit you see on the internet.
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According to Sitchin, sometimes Nibiru caused more destruction than others, sometimes it passed almost unnoticed and another it caused the great deluges and cataclysms recorded by the ancient world.
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If the rotation of this object is truly like a hurricane (from the PDF _ Nibiru Final_Update), then the fact that some passages of this object could have been less violent than others. If the clockwise rotation leaves the outer arms of its "spiral" being the "fast" storm side, then if Nibiru were to pass the earth on the left, instead of the right, then it would seem to follow that the amount of force that the Earth would experience would be less. If it passes us on the right, as it *may* do this time around, then would the Earth not be more violently affected? Just a thought.
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Dating Niburu (Planet of the Crossing) throughout history.

According to the Ancient Sumerians, Nibiru has an orbital pattern that is around 3600 years. This left me curious to know if 3500-3600 years ago there were any significant Earth-based disasters around that time. Calculate 2011-3600=1589 BCE(BC). What I found has been no less than shocking and further proof of a 3600 year cycle that occurs on this Planet.

What I found first:
[link to en.wikipedia.org]

1570 BC: Cretan palaces at Knossos and other centres flourish despite disasters.

This intrigued me so I attempted to find these particular disasters. Turns out it was during this particular time period a SERIES of disasters struck the planet leading to The Bronze Age Collapse.

Notable Disaster:
The Eruption of Thera

A little History:
The Minoan eruption on the island of Thera (present-day Santorini about 100 km(70 miles) distant from Crete) occurred during the LM IA period. The island of Santorini is the site of one of the largest volcanic eruptions in recorded history: the Minoan eruption (sometimes called the Thera eruption), which occurred some 3600 years ago at the height of the Minoan civilization. The eruption left a large caldera surrounded by volcanic ash deposits hundreds of feet deep and may have led indirectly to the collapse of the Minoan civilization on the island of Crete, 110 km (68 mi) to the south, through a gigantic tsunami. Another popular theory holds that the Thera eruption is the source of the legend of Atlantis.
seem to have declined.
Significant Minoan remains have been found above the Late Minoan I era Thera ash layer, implying that the Thera eruption did not cause the immediate downfall of the Minoans. As the Minoans were a sea power and depended on their naval and merchant ships for their livelihood, the Thera eruption caused significant economic hardship to the Minoans. Whether these effects were enough to trigger the downfall of the Minoan civilization is under intense debate.

How The Eruption of Thera Changed the World
Heather Whipps
Date: 24 February 2008

[link to www.livescience.com]

The world map might look differently had the Greek volcano Thera not erupted 3,500 years ago in what geologists believe was the single-most powerful explosive event ever witnessed.
Thera didn't just blow a massive hole into the island of Santorini – it set the entire ancient Mediterranean onto a different course, like a train that switched tracks to head off in a brand new direction.
Minoan culture, the dominant civilization in the Mediterranean at the time, crumbled as a result of the eruption, historians believe, changing the political landscape of the ancient world indefinitely. Environmental effects were felt across the globe, as far away as China and perhaps even North America and Antarctica.
The legend of Atlantis and the story of the Biblical plagues and subsequent exodus from Egypt have also been connected to the epic catastrophe.

Dwarfed the atomic bomb
Historians and archaeologists have had trouble deciding on the year Thera erupted, with dates ranging anywhere from 1645 BC to 1500 BC. Studies of ash deposits on the ocean floor have revealed, however, that when the volcano did blow, it did so with a force dwarfing anything humans had ever seen or have seen since.
There are no first-person accounts of what happened that day, but scientists can compare it to the detailed records available from the famous eruption of Krakatoa, Indonesia, in 1883.
That fiery explosion killed upwards of 40,000 people in just a few hours, produced colossal tsunamis 40 feet tall, spewed volcanic ash across Asia, and caused a drop in global temperatures and created strangely colored sunsets for three years. The blast was heard 3,000 miles away.
Thera's eruption was four or five times more powerful than Krakatoa, geologists believe, exploding with the energy of several hundred atomic bombs in a fraction of a second.
An absence of human remains and valuables like metal suggest that the Minoan residents of Santorini predicted the eruption and the island was evacuated, but the culture as a whole did not fare as well.
Based on the nearby island of Crete, the powerful Minoan civilization declined suddenly soon after Thera blew its top. Tsunamis spawned by the eruption would have swamped its naval fleet and coastal villages first off, historians think. A drop in temperatures caused by the massive amounts of sulphur dioxide spouted into the atmosphere then led to several years of cold, wet summers in the region, ruining harvests. The lethal combination overran every mighty Minoan stronghold in less than 50 years.
In just a short time, their peaceful, efficient bureaucracy made way for the warring city-state system of ancient Greece to dominate the Mediterranean. The Aegean would turn out to be a fundamental building block for the history of Europe, and the Minoan decline changed its early foundation completely.

Famous legends
Thera didn't just alter the cultural make up of Europe, it has kept adventurers and treasure hunters busy too.
When the Greek philosopher Plato described the lost city of Atlantis over a thousand years after the volcanic eruption, he may have been referring to Thera folklore passed down in Greece over many generations and exaggerated like a game of broken telephone.
The eruption has also been loosely linked with the Biblical story of Moses and the exodus from Egypt. The effects of Thera's eruption could have explained many of the plagues described in the Old Testament, including the days of darkness and polluting of the rivers, according to some theories.


The Bronze Age:
The Bronze Age is a period characterized by the use of copper and its alloy bronze as the chief hard materials in the manufacture of some implements and weapons. Chronologically, it stands between the Stone Age and Iron Age.

[size=150]
The Bronze Age collapse:[/size]
The Bronze Age collapse is a transition in southwestern Asia and the Eastern Mediterranean from the Late Bronze Age to the Early Iron Age that some historians believe was violent, sudden and culturally disruptive. Cultural collapse of the Mycenaean kingdoms, the Hittite Empire in Anatolia and Syria, Egyptian Empire in Syria and Canaan interrupted trade routes and severely reduced literacy. In the first phase of this period, almost every city between Troy and Gaza was violently destroyed, and often left unoccupied thereafter: examples include Hattusa, Mycenae, Ugarit.

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

Ok, that's interesting, what else? What else occurred during the 16th century BCE (1599-1500BCE)?

1500BCE: Vedas are composed.
The Vedas (Sanskrit वेद véda, "knowledge") are a large body of texts originating in ancient India. Composed in Vedic Sanskrit, the texts constitute the oldest layer of Sanskrit literature and the oldest scriptures of Hinduism. Alluded to the existence of Vimanas:mythological flying machines described in Sanskrit epics.

1580 BCE:The Egyptians invented a new and better calendar. It is based on both the moon and a star. They observed the annual appearance of the brightest star in the sky, Sirius. This calendar was more advanced than the Babylonian calendar.

1550 BCE: Stonehenge is built

1540 BCE: History of ancient Israel and Judah—earliest date for Ahmose I founding the Eighteenth dynasty of Egypt.

1534 BC—The oldest dated star chart was made in Ancient Egypt



So lets go back ANOTHER 3600 years. Calculate: 1589-3600=5189. 5189 BCE(BC). So, what happened in the 6th Millennium BCE (6000 BCE-5000 BCE)? Obviously the 5189 BCE date is toward the end of the 6th Millennium BCE. Quote Wiki: During the 6th millennium BC, agriculture spread from the Balkans to Italy and Eastern Europe, and also from Mesopotamia to Egypt. World population was essentially stable at approximately 5 million, though some speculate up to 7 million.
[link to en.wikipedia.org]

What else? The Eruption of Mt. Etna.
Quote Wiki: Thousands of years ago, the eastern flank of the mountain experienced a catastrophic collapse, generating an enormous landslide in an event similar to that seen in the 1980 eruption of Mount St. Helens. The landslide left a large depression in the side of the volcano, known as 'Valle del Bove' (Valley of the Ox). Research published in 2006 suggested this occurred around 6000 BC, and caused a huge tsunami, which left its mark in several places in the eastern Mediterranean. It may have been the reason the settlement of Atlit Yam (Israel), now below sea level, was suddenly abandoned around that time.[9]

A massive volcanic landslide off of Mt. Etna, Sicily caused a mega tsunami which devastated the eastern Mediterranean coastline on three continents.(1)
[link to en.wikipedia.org]

I followed the citation and found this:
Here it is:

SAO/NASA ADS Astronomy Abstract Service

Numerical simulations support the occurrence of a catastrophic tsunami impacting all of the eastern Mediterranean in early Holocene. The tsunami was triggered by a debris avalanche from Mt. Etna (Sicily, Italy) which entered the Ionian Sea in the order of minutes. Simulations show that the resulting tsunami waves were able to destabilize soft marine sediments across the Ionian Sea floor. This generated the well-known, sporadically located, ``homogenite'' deposits of the Ionian Sea, and the widespread megaturbidite deposits of the Ionian and Sirte Abyssal Plains. It is possible that, ~8 ka B.P., the Neolithic village of Atlit-Yam (Israel) was abandoned because of impact by the same Etna tsunami. Two other Pleistocenic megaturbidite deposits of the Ionian Sea can be explained by previous sector collapses from the Etna area.
[link to adsabs.harvard.edu]

Now, why would NASA and SAO (Smithsonian Astrophysical Observatory [link to www.cfa.harvard.edu] ) want to know about this particular event and tsunami? Hmmm... :think: Is it because they know about this 3600 year cycle? I think that is very likely.

From the Bible:
Daniel 12:6-12
One of them said to the man clothed in linen, who was above the waters of the river, "How long will it be before these astonishing things are fulfilled?"
The man clothed in linen, who was above the waters of the river, lifted his right hand and his left hand toward heaven, and I heard him swear by him who lives forever, saying, "It will be for a time, times and half a time. When the power of the holy people has been finally broken, all these things will be completed."
8. I heard, but I did not understand. So I asked, "My lord, what will the outcome of all this be?"
He replied, "Go your way, Daniel, because the words are closed up and sealed until the time of the end.
Many will be purified, made spotless and refined, but the wicked will continue to be wicked. None of the wicked will understand, but those who are wise will understand.
"From the time that the daily sacrifice is abolished and the abomination that causes desolation is set up, there will be 1,290 days.
Blessed is the one who waits for and reaches the end of the 1,335 days

Time=1
Times=2
Half of time=.5
=3.5 or approximately 3500 years.
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I don't need a link to prove there is no Nibiru.

Because there is no fucking planet heading towards.

Fucking childish.

Get a telescope look for it. You will see no huge planet 20x the size of fucking Jupiter.

Don't tell me nobody can see it because if there was a planet that was going to ass fuck earth anytime soon we would have been able to see it decades ago.

From what I have been seeing on the internet about this Nibiru is that it duking hits earth every 3600.

Does that make any sense?

There would be evidence here on earth that would show something.to that effect. And no not some ancient bullshit.
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The seven planets has me thinking of Revelations from the Bible. Seven heads reference. I need to read the passages obviously, but I wonder if there is a connection...maybe you two have made it already and I have lost it in the immersion :)
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Stupid. Bullshit.

Nibiru would have destroyed earth 3600 years ago. But I guess that doesn't matter because you make your own shit up and believe stupid shit you see on the internet.
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According to Sitchin, sometimes Nibiru caused more destruction than others, sometimes it passed almost unnoticed and another it caused the great deluges and cataclysms recorded by the ancient world.
 Quoting: Koelbren


If the rotation of this object is truly like a hurricane (from the PDF _ Nibiru Final_Update), then the fact that some passages of this object could have been less violent than others. If the clockwise rotation leaves the outer arms of its "spiral" being the "fast" storm side, then if Nibiru were to pass the earth on the left, instead of the right, then it would seem to follow that the amount of force that the Earth would experience would be less. If it passes us on the right, as it *may* do this time around, then would the Earth not be more violently affected? Just a thought.
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Sometimes I wonder if Nibiru will return according to prophecies. I mean, the ancients wrote prophecies based on the knowledge they had on what had previously transpired, but we don't know exactly what happened to Nibiru during the millennia it has been orbiting away on another solar system or whatever. Maybe it collided with a giant planet and lost all it's moons, maybe it was decimated itself due to a collition, maybe it was caught on the orbit of another star. So many things could have happened that could have changed the predictions of the ancients.

What I don't doubt if that the ancient faithfully recorded the accounts based on their experience, albeit through their own perspective as ancient men.
This is the fate of man. He must strive for that which he cannot attain. He must believe in that which he cannot prove. He must seek that which he cannot find. He must travel a road without knowing his destination. Only thus can the purpose of life be fulfilled.

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I don't need a link to prove there is no Nibiru.

Because there is no fucking planet heading towards.

Fucking childish.

Get a telescope look for it. You will see no huge planet 20x the size of fucking Jupiter.

Don't tell me nobody can see it because if there was a planet that was going to ass fuck earth anytime soon we would have been able to see it decades ago.

From what I have been seeing on the internet about this Nibiru is that it duking hits earth every 3600.

Does that make any sense?

There would be evidence here on earth that would show something.to that effect. And no not some ancient bullshit.
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What childlish post, you say there would be evidence but disregard "ancient bullshit"? you dont deserve the time for an explanation even.
This is the fate of man. He must strive for that which he cannot attain. He must believe in that which he cannot prove. He must seek that which he cannot find. He must travel a road without knowing his destination. Only thus can the purpose of life be fulfilled.

For I tell you, God will not do things you are too apathetic to do for yourselves.
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Like carvings on rocks. There are no explanation to them. They could mean anything.
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"Perhaps the association of the Sanskrit term "svastika" with this symbol can be linked to the Astika Parva in the MAHABHARATA which relates the birth of a cosmic bird par excellence--Garuda. This fabulous winged deity had a radiance like the Sun, could change shapes at will, and destroyed other gods and kings by casting down fire and stirring up storms of reddish dust which darkened the Sun, Moon and stars. Clearly Garuda was symbolic of an Earth approaching comet."


Yes the Svastika was also a symbol for Nibiru, and as Colonel Churchward discovered in his research of Lemuria, they had this symbol for a very long time. Here's described among other comet descriptions in ancient China.

[link to abob.libs.uga.edu]

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This is the fate of man. He must strive for that which he cannot attain. He must believe in that which he cannot prove. He must seek that which he cannot find. He must travel a road without knowing his destination. Only thus can the purpose of life be fulfilled.

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I don't need a link to prove there is no Nibiru.

Because there is no fucking planet heading towards.

Fucking childish.

Get a telescope look for it. You will see no huge planet 20x the size of fucking Jupiter.

Don't tell me nobody can see it because if there was a planet that was going to ass fuck earth anytime soon we would have been able to see it decades ago.

From what I have been seeing on the internet about this Nibiru is that it duking hits earth every 3600.

Does that make any sense?

There would be evidence here on earth that would show something.to that effect. And no not some ancient bullshit.
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This is where you are wrong. Nibiru is currently BEHIND THE SUN. It rises with the sun and sets with it. You CAN NOT see it at night. Nibiru is coming from our SOUTHERN HEMISPHERE. It is literally underneath us and behind the sun.
When it finally is high enough in the Northern Hemisphere to be seen in the Holy City as TWO SUNS in the sky, it will begin.

This is a picture of Today's position of the sun, Virgo, Leo.
:Virgo12d:
:VirgoRevalations:
TheBlueKachina
Thered dragon
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Very interesting thread !! I will personal-pin to read when I'm not so damn tired from cooking all day......
Oh, and +K for your efforts.....
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And I should just believe you?

The whole thing is made up dude.

Where did everyone first hear about Nibiru?
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Jesus said in Luke chapter 21, that there would be signs in the heavens, sea and waves roaring (tsunami's), the nations in distress, and that "men's hearts will fail them for fear for WHAT IS COMING UOPN THE EARTH"...
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And I should just believe you?

The whole thing is made up dude.

Where did everyone first hear about Nibiru?
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Absolutely not. Like I said, It will all come into perfect focus when you see it without ego and let go. I can only offer you the avenues to find the truth. Research, read, watch, listen. Don't take my word for it. Find IT for yourselves.

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And I should just believe you?

The whole thing is made up dude.

Where did everyone first hear about Nibiru?
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Don't get caught up with names, Nibiru is just the name Sitchin intepreted to be the cyclical Destroyer planet of ancient lore. There's historical evidence that the event called Exodus in the Bible was in reality caused by a fiery astral body which passed on the heavens and was withnessed by both Egyptians and Ethiopians alike. The scientific evidence is also there for this catastrophe.

Call it whatever you want, Typhoon, Phaeton, Wormwood, The destroyer, The Dark Sun, Nibiru, Yahweh, references in the ancient world are abundant of the existence of this cyclical body.
This is the fate of man. He must strive for that which he cannot attain. He must believe in that which he cannot prove. He must seek that which he cannot find. He must travel a road without knowing his destination. Only thus can the purpose of life be fulfilled.

For I tell you, God will not do things you are too apathetic to do for yourselves.
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Way to stupid for me I am sorry.

What makes you believe in this so strongly?

What makes you think that this planet exists?
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Dating Niburu (Planet of the Crossing) throughout history.

According to the Ancient Sumerians, Nibiru has an orbital pattern that is around 3600 years. This left me curious to know if 3500-3600 years ago there were any significant Earth-based disasters around that time. Calculate 2011-3600=1589 BCE(BC). What I found has been no less than shocking and further proof of a 3600 year cycle that occurs on this Planet.

What I found first:
[link to en.wikipedia.org]

1570 BC: Cretan palaces at Knossos and other centres flourish despite disasters.

This intrigued me so I attempted to find these particular disasters. Turns out it was during this particular time period a SERIES of disasters struck the planet leading to The Bronze Age Collapse.

Notable Disaster:
The Eruption of Thera

A little History:
The Minoan eruption on the island of Thera (present-day Santorini about 100 km(70 miles) distant from Crete) occurred during the LM IA period. The island of Santorini is the site of one of the largest volcanic eruptions in recorded history: the Minoan eruption (sometimes called the Thera eruption), which occurred some 3600 years ago at the height of the Minoan civilization. The eruption left a large caldera surrounded by volcanic ash deposits hundreds of feet deep and may have led indirectly to the collapse of the Minoan civilization on the island of Crete, 110 km (68 mi) to the south, through a gigantic tsunami. Another popular theory holds that the Thera eruption is the source of the legend of Atlantis.
seem to have declined.
Significant Minoan remains have been found above the Late Minoan I era Thera ash layer, implying that the Thera eruption did not cause the immediate downfall of the Minoans. As the Minoans were a sea power and depended on their naval and merchant ships for their livelihood, the Thera eruption caused significant economic hardship to the Minoans. Whether these effects were enough to trigger the downfall of the Minoan civilization is under intense debate.

How The Eruption of Thera Changed the World
Heather Whipps
Date: 24 February 2008

[link to www.livescience.com]

The world map might look differently had the Greek volcano Thera not erupted 3,500 years ago in what geologists believe was the single-most powerful explosive event ever witnessed.
Thera didn't just blow a massive hole into the island of Santorini – it set the entire ancient Mediterranean onto a different course, like a train that switched tracks to head off in a brand new direction.
Minoan culture, the dominant civilization in the Mediterranean at the time, crumbled as a result of the eruption, historians believe, changing the political landscape of the ancient world indefinitely. Environmental effects were felt across the globe, as far away as China and perhaps even North America and Antarctica.
The legend of Atlantis and the story of the Biblical plagues and subsequent exodus from Egypt have also been connected to the epic catastrophe.

Dwarfed the atomic bomb
Historians and archaeologists have had trouble deciding on the year Thera erupted, with dates ranging anywhere from 1645 BC to 1500 BC. Studies of ash deposits on the ocean floor have revealed, however, that when the volcano did blow, it did so with a force dwarfing anything humans had ever seen or have seen since.
There are no first-person accounts of what happened that day, but scientists can compare it to the detailed records available from the famous eruption of Krakatoa, Indonesia, in 1883.
That fiery explosion killed upwards of 40,000 people in just a few hours, produced colossal tsunamis 40 feet tall, spewed volcanic ash across Asia, and caused a drop in global temperatures and created strangely colored sunsets for three years. The blast was heard 3,000 miles away.
Thera's eruption was four or five times more powerful than Krakatoa, geologists believe, exploding with the energy of several hundred atomic bombs in a fraction of a second.
An absence of human remains and valuables like metal suggest that the Minoan residents of Santorini predicted the eruption and the island was evacuated, but the culture as a whole did not fare as well.
Based on the nearby island of Crete, the powerful Minoan civilization declined suddenly soon after Thera blew its top. Tsunamis spawned by the eruption would have swamped its naval fleet and coastal villages first off, historians think. A drop in temperatures caused by the massive amounts of sulphur dioxide spouted into the atmosphere then led to several years of cold, wet summers in the region, ruining harvests. The lethal combination overran every mighty Minoan stronghold in less than 50 years.
In just a short time, their peaceful, efficient bureaucracy made way for the warring city-state system of ancient Greece to dominate the Mediterranean. The Aegean would turn out to be a fundamental building block for the history of Europe, and the Minoan decline changed its early foundation completely.

Famous legends
Thera didn't just alter the cultural make up of Europe, it has kept adventurers and treasure hunters busy too.
When the Greek philosopher Plato described the lost city of Atlantis over a thousand years after the volcanic eruption, he may have been referring to Thera folklore passed down in Greece over many generations and exaggerated like a game of broken telephone.
The eruption has also been loosely linked with the Biblical story of Moses and the exodus from Egypt. The effects of Thera's eruption could have explained many of the plagues described in the Old Testament, including the days of darkness and polluting of the rivers, according to some theories.


The Bronze Age:
The Bronze Age is a period characterized by the use of copper and its alloy bronze as the chief hard materials in the manufacture of some implements and weapons. Chronologically, it stands between the Stone Age and Iron Age.

[size=150]
The Bronze Age collapse:[/size]
The Bronze Age collapse is a transition in southwestern Asia and the Eastern Mediterranean from the Late Bronze Age to the Early Iron Age that some historians believe was violent, sudden and culturally disruptive. Cultural collapse of the Mycenaean kingdoms, the Hittite Empire in Anatolia and Syria, Egyptian Empire in Syria and Canaan interrupted trade routes and severely reduced literacy. In the first phase of this period, almost every city between Troy and Gaza was violently destroyed, and often left unoccupied thereafter: examples include Hattusa, Mycenae, Ugarit.

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

Ok, that's interesting, what else? What else occurred during the 16th century BCE (1599-1500BCE)?

1500BCE: Vedas are composed.
The Vedas (Sanskrit वेद véda, "knowledge") are a large body of texts originating in ancient India. Composed in Vedic Sanskrit, the texts constitute the oldest layer of Sanskrit literature and the oldest scriptures of Hinduism. Alluded to the existence of Vimanas:mythological flying machines described in Sanskrit epics.

1580 BCE:The Egyptians invented a new and better calendar. It is based on both the moon and a star. They observed the annual appearance of the brightest star in the sky, Sirius. This calendar was more advanced than the Babylonian calendar.

1550 BCE: Stonehenge is built

1540 BCE: History of ancient Israel and Judah—earliest date for Ahmose I founding the Eighteenth dynasty of Egypt.

1534 BC—The oldest dated star chart was made in Ancient Egypt



So lets go back ANOTHER 3600 years. Calculate: 1589-3600=5189. 5189 BCE(BC). So, what happened in the 6th Millennium BCE (6000 BCE-5000 BCE)? Obviously the 5189 BCE date is toward the end of the 6th Millennium BCE. Quote Wiki: During the 6th millennium BC, agriculture spread from the Balkans to Italy and Eastern Europe, and also from Mesopotamia to Egypt. World population was essentially stable at approximately 5 million, though some speculate up to 7 million.
[link to en.wikipedia.org]

What else? The Eruption of Mt. Etna.
Quote Wiki: Thousands of years ago, the eastern flank of the mountain experienced a catastrophic collapse, generating an enormous landslide in an event similar to that seen in the 1980 eruption of Mount St. Helens. The landslide left a large depression in the side of the volcano, known as 'Valle del Bove' (Valley of the Ox). Research published in 2006 suggested this occurred around 6000 BC, and caused a huge tsunami, which left its mark in several places in the eastern Mediterranean. It may have been the reason the settlement of Atlit Yam (Israel), now below sea level, was suddenly abandoned around that time.[9]

A massive volcanic landslide off of Mt. Etna, Sicily caused a mega tsunami which devastated the eastern Mediterranean coastline on three continents.(1)
[link to en.wikipedia.org]

I followed the citation and found this:
Here it is:

SAO/NASA ADS Astronomy Abstract Service

Numerical simulations support the occurrence of a catastrophic tsunami impacting all of the eastern Mediterranean in early Holocene. The tsunami was triggered by a debris avalanche from Mt. Etna (Sicily, Italy) which entered the Ionian Sea in the order of minutes. Simulations show that the resulting tsunami waves were able to destabilize soft marine sediments across the Ionian Sea floor. This generated the well-known, sporadically located, ``homogenite'' deposits of the Ionian Sea, and the widespread megaturbidite deposits of the Ionian and Sirte Abyssal Plains. It is possible that, ~8 ka B.P., the Neolithic village of Atlit-Yam (Israel) was abandoned because of impact by the same Etna tsunami. Two other Pleistocenic megaturbidite deposits of the Ionian Sea can be explained by previous sector collapses from the Etna area.
[link to adsabs.harvard.edu]

Now, why would NASA and SAO (Smithsonian Astrophysical Observatory [link to www.cfa.harvard.edu] ) want to know about this particular event and tsunami? Hmmm... :think: Is it because they know about this 3600 year cycle? I think that is very likely.

From the Bible:
Daniel 12:6-12
One of them said to the man clothed in linen, who was above the waters of the river, "How long will it be before these astonishing things are fulfilled?"
The man clothed in linen, who was above the waters of the river, lifted his right hand and his left hand toward heaven, and I heard him swear by him who lives forever, saying, "It will be for a time, times and half a time. When the power of the holy people has been finally broken, all these things will be completed."
8. I heard, but I did not understand. So I asked, "My lord, what will the outcome of all this be?"
He replied, "Go your way, Daniel, because the words are closed up and sealed until the time of the end.
Many will be purified, made spotless and refined, but the wicked will continue to be wicked. None of the wicked will understand, but those who are wise will understand.
"From the time that the daily sacrifice is abolished and the abomination that causes desolation is set up, there will be 1,290 days.
Blessed is the one who waits for and reaches the end of the 1,335 days

Time=1
Times=2
Half of time=.5
=3.5 or approximately 3500 years.
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Bump...very interesting research....
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Year Dates:

2012 AD

1648 BC: A volcanic eruption destroyed the Late Bronze Age culture of the Island of Santorini, Greece. Carbon dating of ash fall out in Iceland dates this to 1650 B.C. [link to www.telusplanet.net]

5308 BC: But around 5300 B.C. this climate-driven environmental abundance started to decline, and most humans began leaving the increasingly arid region. “Around 5,500 to 6,000 years ago the Egyptian Sahara became so dry that nobody could survive there,” said Stefan Kröpelin, a geoarchaeologist at the University of Cologne in Germany and study co-author. Without rain, rivers, or the ephemeral desert streams known as waddis, vegetation became sparse, and people had to leave the desert or die, Kröpelin says. [link to varnam.org]

8968 BC: The principals of Enki's lineage, in their competition among themselves, transferred much advanced technology to their Earthling minions. Marduk, Enki's eldest son, married to the Adapite Earthling Sarpanit, forged an alliance with the Astronaut Corps (Igigi). Following Marduk's example, the Igigi took Earthling women and captured the Landing Place in Lebanon, and in 8970 B.C., in the name of Marduk's son Satu, were advancing on the Spaceport in Sinai. Gibil, another of Enki's sons, taught Earthlings commanded by Marduk's grandson Horon to make iron weapons. [link to schooloftantra.net]


12628 BC: Rydno is a complex of archeological sites along the Kamiennna River valley between Skarżysko-Kamienna and Wąchock. Several hundred Paleolithic campsites have been located there, which makes it the world's largest accumulation of such finds. They extend over a number of periods, beginning with the Mousterian (Neanderthal) culture, followed by the Hamburg culture of reindeer hunters; the Final Paleolithic is represented there by the Komornica culture named after a village in Legionowo County. The best known Late Paleolithic campsites in the area, which include some dugout huts, belonged to the people preoccupied with hematite ore mining, from which ochre pigment used for body painting was being made. The red dye was widely traded, which is why rocks and minerals originating from distant regions of today's Poland, Slovakia and Hungary are found at Rydno. Pieces of "chocolate" flint brought into this area for processing were stored in quantities that were always the multiples of three. Because of this and other evidence it is believed that the Paleolithic people developed a counting system based on this number. A 12,600 BC Hamburg culture site with tents, camp-fire and stone meat baking devices was discovered in Olbrachcice, Wschowa County[1][5][6]. [link to instapedia.com] Beginning of Holocene EXTINCTION EVENT: [link to en.wikipedia.org]



16288 BC: Lemurian landmass (aka Kumari Kandam) south of India submerged for the final time. Some sources suggest Atlantis settled by Lemurian refugees. [link to drunkenlullabyes.wikidot.com]


19948 BC: 20,000 B.C., the peak of the last ice age--the atmosphere is heavy with dust, deserts, and glaciers span vast regions, and people, if they survive at all, exist in small, mobile groups, facing the threat of extinction. [link to www.2think.org]


23608 BC: 24000 BC: start of the second Mousterian Pluvial in North Africa. [link to wapedia.mobi] BC. Human cremations carried out. Climatic desiccation of Australia, Sahara and other parts of the world, with water locked up in the ice of the Ice Age. Sea levels some 450 feet below current levels, but larger vertical crustal movements. [link to www.goldenageproject.org.uk]

27268 BC: 27000 BC): extinction of Homo neanderthalensis[ Homo sapiens reach the islands that will be called Japan and may have arrived in the islands as much as 5,000 years earlier over ice sheets or land bridges

30928 BC

34588 BC: Homo sapiens become the dominant species on earth, with no serious rivals to their supremacy. [link to www.enotes.com]


38248 BC: Homo sapiens emerges in Africa. Although physically less powerful, he has a more prominent chin, a much larger brain volume, and superior intelligence. Homo sapiens will split into six major divisions, or stocks—Negroids, Mongoloids, Caucasoids, Australoids, Amerindians, and Polynesians, and some of these will have subdivisions (Caucasoids, for example, will include Alpine, Mediterranean, and Nordic stocks).

38,000 B.C.: food and drink
His control of fire, his development of new, lightweight bone and horn tools, weapons, and fishhooks, and his superior intelligence permit homo sapiens to obtain food more easily and to preserve it longer. Hunters provide early tribes with meat from bison and tigers, while other tribespeople fish and collect honey, fruits, and nuts (as shown by cave paintings near Aurignac in southern France).

38,000 B.C.: population
Increased availability of food in the next few thousand years will lead to an increase in human populations.

[link to www.enotes.com]

41908 BC: 42,000 B.C.: exploration, colonization
The continent that will be called Australia is populated by the earth's first seafaring people. Colonists whose ancestors left Africa perhaps 30 millennia ago have arrived across a narrow expanse of ocean from the Asian mainland (see New Guinea, 28500 B.C.). [link to www.enotes.com]

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Data suggests -- even SCREAMS -- there is a 3660 year periodicity to major EXTINCTION/CLIMATE-CHANGE events that drive human development/evolution.

The NEXT time is 2012 -- no kidding. [link to www.google.com]
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Way to stupid for me I am sorry.

What makes you believe in this so strongly?

What makes you think that this planet exists?
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What makes you think it's a planet? I am not certain if this is a comet or a wandering star.


"The Doomshape, called the Destroyer, in Egypt, was seen in all the lands whereabouts. In colour it was bright and fiery, in appearance changing and unstable. It twisted about itself like a coil, like water bubbling into a pool from an underground supply, and all men agree it was a most fearsome sight. It was not a great comet or a loosened star, being more like a fiery body of flame.

Its movements on high were slow, below it swirled in the manner of smoke and it remained close to the sun whose face it hid. There was a bloody redness about it, which changed as it passed along its course. It caused death and destruction in its rising and setting. It swept the Earth with grey cinder rain and caused many plagues, hunger and other evils. It bit the skin of men and beast until they became mottled with sores."
This is the fate of man. He must strive for that which he cannot attain. He must believe in that which he cannot prove. He must seek that which he cannot find. He must travel a road without knowing his destination. Only thus can the purpose of life be fulfilled.

For I tell you, God will not do things you are too apathetic to do for yourselves.
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Data suggests -- even SCREAMS -- there is a 3660 year periodicity to major EXTINCTION/CLIMATE-CHANGE events that drive human development/evolution.

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Yes it does. Thank you for your contribution. I can feel people may be starting to alter their perception. Be warned that this knowledge is tough to deal with. It is written that people will go completely mad when confronted by this reality. Tread lightly and give yourself time to ingest it all. If it becomes to much, walk away and take a breath. Feel it for what it is. Accept it. Make peace with your own mortality. Live for today. Then plan and prepare if you feel it's right for you personally.

"Those who return to the ways given to us in the original teachings, and live a natural way of life will not be touched by the coming of the Purifier. They will survive and build the new world. Only in the ancient teachings will the ability to understand the messages be found."
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I don't need a link to prove there is no Nibiru.

Because there is no fucking planet heading towards.

Fucking childish.

Get a telescope look for it. You will see no huge planet 20x the size of fucking Jupiter.

Don't tell me nobody can see it because if there was a planet that was going to ass fuck earth anytime soon we would have been able to see it decades ago.

From what I have been seeing on the internet about this Nibiru is that it duking hits earth every 3600.

Does that make any sense?

There would be evidence here on earth that would show something.to that effect. And no not some ancient bullshit.
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This is where you are wrong. Nibiru is currently BEHIND THE SUN. It rises with the sun and sets with it. You CAN NOT see it at night. Nibiru is coming from our SOUTHERN HEMISPHERE. It is literally underneath us and behind the sun.
When it finally is high enough in the Northern Hemisphere to be seen in the Holy City as TWO SUNS in the sky, it will begin.

This is a picture of Today's position of the sun, Virgo, Leo.
:Virgo12d:
:VirgoRevalations:
:TheBlueKachina:
:Thered dragon:
:Google SkySirius:
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Does anyone have information if Nibiru is coming directly from the south or is it more SE or SW?
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Does anyone have information if Nibiru is coming directly from the south or is it more SE or SW?
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It's being seen now in the Southern Hemisphere. It might of crossed the Equator by now.

Some of this video DOES show Nibiru next to the sun. Any reflections that move are lens flare. There are also "sundogs" which area natural phenomena. Stationary objects don't move when the camera moves. I believe the China one to be fake because the distance between the two celestial bodies is to great.
This will give you an idea at least of what to look for. Do your own research but be cautious of fakes. There ARE real ones out there.


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In this regards we'll have to respecfully disagree :)
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And you are welcome to that.

Listen, I don't have all the answers. These are theories based on the information I have connected through years of research, questions, and analysis.

Very suddenly last week the gigantic puzzle fell together at once, revealing the nature of man. It was really terrifying and I shook from the horror of it. My entire consciousness cracked open and some of the mysteries of this solar system was revealed to me. A veil lifted. My entire life came into a perfect focus where I literally saw all the steps i had taken to get there. Information I had so feverishly collected, stored and analyzed. It was almost enough to be pushed over the edge.

Instead, I gathered the information I found and gave it to others to consider and hopefully have time to prepare themselves.

There is a fourth level of consciousness called Cosmic Consciousness.

The only REAL truth is the truth that resonates with YOU.
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Hitler had a similar condition
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Incorporating astronomical evidence of a recent giant short period comet into our attempt to understand past cultures is essential for an objective interpretation.
This is the fate of man. He must strive for that which he cannot attain. He must believe in that which he cannot prove. He must seek that which he cannot find. He must travel a road without knowing his destination. Only thus can the purpose of life be fulfilled.

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In this regards we'll have to respecfully disagree :)
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And you are welcome to that.

Listen, I don't have all the answers. These are theories based on the information I have connected through years of research, questions, and analysis.

Very suddenly last week the gigantic puzzle fell together at once, revealing the nature of man. It was really terrifying and I shook from the horror of it. My entire consciousness cracked open and some of the mysteries of this solar system was revealed to me. A veil lifted. My entire life came into a perfect focus where I literally saw all the steps i had taken to get there. Information I had so feverishly collected, stored and analyzed. It was almost enough to be pushed over the edge.

Instead, I gathered the information I found and gave it to others to consider and hopefully have time to prepare themselves.

There is a fourth level of consciousness called Cosmic Consciousness.

The only REAL truth is the truth that resonates with YOU.
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Hitler had a similar condition
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Hitler spread hate, intolerance, and death while also contributing very remarkable technological advances by his scientists. Some say the knowledge was gained through the study of a craft that crashed in I believe Germany or a surrounding area.
See: Anceint Aliens season 2 episode 5.
[link to movies.netflix.com]
See: The REAL FOO FIGHTERS.

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Title should be :Tracking Nibiru throughout mythology.
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Title should be :Tracking Nibiru throughout mythology.
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Mythology is the way our ancient ancestors wrote their history. If you can decypher it's symbols you have the key to the ancient past.
This is the fate of man. He must strive for that which he cannot attain. He must believe in that which he cannot prove. He must seek that which he cannot find. He must travel a road without knowing his destination. Only thus can the purpose of life be fulfilled.

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Title should be :Tracking Nibiru throughout mythology.
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Mythology is the way our ancient ancestors wrote their history. If you can decypher it's symbols you have the key to the ancient past.
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That and the geological PROOF.
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