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Tracking Nibiru throughout history

 
kicktothehead
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Ok... I finally took the time to read through this :

[link to www.scribd.com]


INCREDIBLE information with calculation,timelines,charts, etc whoever compiled this paper did an outstanding job.

IF you believe in this stuff then this read answers all your questions about whats going on up there.

In a nutshell elenin is indeed a comet but its caught in Niribu/PlanetX/Dwarf Star WHATEVER you wanna call it's magnetic field.

This is why its hard to see, this is why nasa is not jumping up and down saying look at this comet as it passes on x date like they have done to other comets...because its so magnetically charged it makes it hard to see .... there are times when its visible, others when its not.

On Sept. 26,27th niribus magnetic field finally encompasses
earth BUT since we are on the other side of the sun we should be somewhat shielded by it's magnetism and this may help us.
Its not until after the first of the year that we come back around and get completely exposed to Niribu's magnetic field.
On these days (26th,27th) Elenin will be passing between the earth and the sun. Who knows what will happen with elenins electrical discharge?
The 3 days of darkness is NOT expected until NEXT Sept as Niribu passes between us and the sun...

I am telling you ... if you are interested in this stuff ...read that paper.. its fascinating... even if it doesnt happen its still a fascinating read with the amount of work that went into it.

B
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I bookmarked it for later. Thank you for the synopsis.

On the "next" September note, I hope you are right. I really hope there is more time to prepare, plan, and enlighten others.

Thank you for posting

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from "Paraphrase of Shem" Nag Hammadi Lib.

57 After I cease to be upon the earth and withdraw up to my rest, a great, evil error will come upon the world, and many evils in accordance with the number of the forms of Nature. Evil times will come. And when the era of Nature is approaching destruction, darkness will come upon the earth. The number will be small. And a demon will come up from the power who has a likeness of fire. He will divide the heaven, and he will rest in the depth of the east. For the whole world will quake. And the deceived world will be thrown into confusion. Many places will be flooded because of envy of the winds and the demons who have a name which is senseless: Phorbea, Chloerga. They are the ones who govern the world with their teaching. And they lead astray many hearts because of their disorder and their unchastity. Many places will be sprinkled with blood. And five races by themselves will eat their sons. But the regions of the south will receive the Word of the Light. But they who are from the error of the world and from the east will not. A demon will come forth from the belly of the serpent. He was in hiding in a desolate place. He will perform many wonders. Many will loathe him. A wind will come forth from his mouth with a female likeness. Her name will be called Abalphe. He will reign over the world from the east to the west.
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And the deceived world will be thrown into confusion. : Purposefully deceiving the populous of the coming apocalypse. people are goin to sh1t when thee truth comes out.

And five races by themselves will eat their sons.:

Cannibalism becomes necessary in very extreme times?
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Bump for later reading.
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Ok... I finally took the time to read through this :

[link to www.scribd.com]


INCREDIBLE information with calculation,timelines,charts, etc whoever compiled this paper did an outstanding job.

IF you believe in this stuff then this read answers all your questions about whats going on up there.

In a nutshell elenin is indeed a comet but its caught in Niribu/PlanetX/Dwarf Star WHATEVER you wanna call it's magnetic field.

This is why its hard to see, this is why nasa is not jumping up and down saying look at this comet as it passes on x date like they have done to other comets...because its so magnetically charged it makes it hard to see .... there are times when its visible, others when its not.

On Sept. 26,27th niribus magnetic field finally encompasses
earth BUT since we are on the other side of the sun we should be somewhat shielded by it's magnetism and this may help us.
Its not until after the first of the year that we come back around and get completely exposed to Niribu's magnetic field.
On these days (26th,27th) Elenin will be passing between the earth and the sun. Who knows what will happen with elenins electrical discharge?
The 3 days of darkness is NOT expected until NEXT Sept as Niribu passes between us and the sun...

I am telling you ... if you are interested in this stuff ...read that paper.. its fascinating... even if it doesnt happen its still a fascinating read with the amount of work that went into it.

B
 Quoting: kicktothehead 1531002

Thank you sir! I was partially through this document when I hit this thread. Which, btw, has stopped me from completing that read thus far. :) SO much incredible data. So am I to interpret, what I think I am hearing, this correctly? Elenin is the "kick off" for he one year cycle of (sorry to use it) Ultra-doom? Seriously...no joking here.
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Thank you sir! I was partially through this document when I hit this thread. Which, btw, has stopped me from completing that read thus far. :) SO much incredible data. So am I to interpret, what I think I am hearing, this correctly? Elenin is the "kick off" for he one year cycle of (sorry to use it) Ultra-doom? Seriously...no joking here.
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Honestly, I don't think we are suppose to know when Nibiru returns. That is not say however, if enough thought, wisdom, and evidence went into it, one could get close.

"But the day of the Lord will come like a thief. The heavens will disappear with a roar; the elements will be destroyed by fire, and the earth and everything in it will be laid bare."
2 Peter 3:10

"And this is the Ninth and Last Sign: You will hear of a dwelling-place in the heavens, above the earth, that shall fall with a great crash. It will appear as a blue star. Very soon after this, the ceremonies of my people will cease.

"These are the Signs that great destruction is coming. The world shall rock to and fro. The white man will battle against other people in other lands -- with those who possessed the first light of wisdom. There will be many columns of smoke and fire such as White Feather has seen the white man make in the deserts not far from here. Only those which come will cause disease and a great dying. Many of my people, understanding the prophecies, shall be safe. Those who stay and live in the places of my people also shall be safe. Then there will be much to rebuild. And soon -- very soon afterward -- Pahana will return. He shall bring with him the dawn of the Fifth World. He shall plant the seeds of his wisdom in their hearts. Even now the seeds are being planted. These shall smooth the way to the Emergence into the Fifth World. ~Hopi Prophecy

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The "new Earth" may rise from the sea and/or potentially shift Greenland and Northern Canada further down toward the Equator. This will change and warm up their climates make human habitation more likely in those areas.
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Some say that the New Earth is a new planet, made up by a finner type of matter. If these verses from Bible below are true, we may note that in the New Earth "there shall be no more death", and that only happens in planets composed by Higher Mental Plane matter, to use Theosophy nomenclature. In planets like present Earth death is part of Nature Laws, but in planets like the New Earth will be, physical immortality is part of Nature Laws.

Rev.21
[1] And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea.
........
[4] And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away.
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Show where Sumerian history indicates this planet had a 3, 600

year orbit.(or for that matter, anything about it)Ancient

history at University deals much with the

Sumerian (Mesopotamian) civilization, the only references to

this planet I've heard of are from works of fiction.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1555822


Sitchin related the Sumerian Shar measure of time with the year of the gods, and the cycle of Nibiru. It was his theory, the Kolbrin for instance gives a longer cycle for The Destroyer. The Bible speaks about the day of the Lord being 2 times, 1 time and half a time, some people hypothesize that could mean 3500 years, but I have no certainty of this.
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Isn't there a phrase in the bible that states: A day unto god is a thousand years unto man.
I'm not sure really but this just pop out of my mind when I read ^^.
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Isn't there a phrase in the bible that states: A day unto god is a thousand years unto man.
I'm not sure really but this just pop out of my mind when I read ^^.
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Here you go:

2 Peter 3:8–9

"But do not forget this one thing, dear friends: With the Lord a day is like a thousand years, and a thousand years are like a day. The Lord is not slow in keeping his promise, as some understand slowness. He is patient with you, not wanting anyone to perish, but everyone to come to repentance."
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Here you go:

2 Peter 3:8–9

"But do not forget this one thing, dear friends: With the Lord a day is like a thousand years, and a thousand years are like a day. The Lord is not slow in keeping his promise, as some understand slowness. He is patient with you, not wanting anyone to perish, but everyone to come to repentance."
 Quoting: Seer777


Hey great thread, great compilation and makes perfect sense.


Just want to suggest that this verse has been mis-understood. When I read this verse, the meaning comes across as God existing outside of time. What is being said is that God could spend 1000 years inside of one day, or God can experience 1000 years within one day. God, existing beyond the dimension we perceive as time, needs no clock or calander.

That being said, I do believe prophecy may have a timetable for us, after all we do exist in a finite temporal reality.
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the events of the Exodus occurred around that time. Blood fell from the skies, plagues, intense "palpable" darkness, Earthquakes, the sea parted, carbohydrates fell from the sky like dew (manna). this stuff went on for a while. In Joshua's time, the Earth wobbled and balls of molten rock fell from the sky.
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"Blood fell from the sky"

The methane atmosphere of brown dwarf stars contributes to violent storms and iron rain. Oxidized liquid iron could very well be looked at as "blood falling from the sky".

It's amazing. Many people think these ancient inscriptions or prophetic visions in the Bible are products of "miracles", but it could very well be a naturally occurring interaction of a brown dwarf star's orbit. I will reserved judgment until the end of September. I have written of hundreds of interpretations of Revelation, but the coincidences are too interesting.

God willing, may we always stay objective and steadfast against deceit. This opportunity strengthens our expectations, but let us not preach this as "truth" until we are assured... unlike many pseudo-Christians these days falsely interpreting every event as "prophetic".
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the events of the Exodus occurred around that time. Blood fell from the skies, plagues, intense "palpable" darkness, Earthquakes, the sea parted, carbohydrates fell from the sky like dew (manna). this stuff went on for a while. In Joshua's time, the Earth wobbled and balls of molten rock fell from the sky.
 Quoting: tranny witch

"Blood fell from the sky"

The methane atmosphere of brown dwarf stars contributes to violent storms and iron rain. Oxidized liquid iron could very well be looked at as "blood falling from the sky".

It's amazing. Many people think these ancient inscriptions or prophetic visions in the Bible are products of "miracles", but it could very well be a naturally occurring interaction of a brown dwarf star's orbit. I will reserved judgment until the end of September. I have written of hundreds of interpretations of Revelation, but the coincidences are too interesting.

God willing, may we always stay objective and steadfast against deceit. This opportunity strengthens our expectations, but let us not preach this as "truth" until we are assured... unlike many pseudo-Christians these days falsely interpreting every event as "prophetic".
 Quoting: Guildenstern


Nicely put! I definitely believe that we should be using 21st century knowledge and insight to interpret the Bible (and other ancient texts). What scares me, personally, is that there are SO many people in the world that are using 1st century knowledge and insight to interpret those texts. Let's look for the scientific explanations to understand these texts...not just take them at face value because that is what we are taught to do. The men that have controlled the church used to say the the earth was the center of the universe, and that the earth was flat...it was punishable by death to think/say otherwise. Look at where all of that has gotten us thus far. not throwing stones here....just making an observation. It is more peaceful and holy to interpret calmly, scientifically and, if at all possible, without judgement...than it is to take things at face value and castigate others in the process. Peace to all...may the truth and the light be shed upon us through our honest pursuit.
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Edgar Cayce's prophecies of the "End of times" parallels the other's significantly.

"The earth will be broken up in the western portion of America. The greater portion of Japan must go into the sea. The upper portion of Europe will be changed as in the twinkling of an eye. Land will appear off the east coast of America. When there is the first breaking up of some conditions in the South Sea and those as apparent in the sinking or rising of that that's almost opposite same, or in the Mediterranean, and the Etna area, then we many know it has begun."

"If there are greater activities in Vesuvius or Pelee, then the southern coast of California and the areas between Salt Lake and the southern portions of Nevada, we may expect, within the three months following same, inundation by the earthquakes. But these are to be more in the Southern than the Northern Hemisphere."

"There will be the upheavals in the Arctic and in the Antarctic that will make for the eruption of volcanoes in the torrid areas, and there will be the shifting then of the poles -- so that where there has been those of a frigid or the semi-tropical will become the more tropical, and moss and fern will grow.

"As to conditions in the geography of the world, of the country -- changes here are gradually coming about. No wonder, then, that the entity feels the need, the necessity for change of central location. For, many portions of the east coast will be disturbed, as well as many portions of the west coast, as well as the central portion of the U.S. In the next few years land will appear in the Atlantic as well as in the Pacific. And what is the coast line now of many a land will be the bed of the ocean. Even many battle fields of the present will be ocean, will be the seas, the bays, the lands over which The New World Order will carry on their trade as one with another.

"Portions of the now east coast of New York, or New York City itself, will in the main disappear. This will be another generation, though, here; while the southern portions of Carolina, Georgia -- these will disappear. This will be much sooner. The waters of the lakes will empty into the Gulf, rather than the waterway over which such discussions have been recently made. It would be well if the waterway were prepared, but not for that purpose for which it is at present being considered. Then the area where the entity is now located (Virginia Beach) will be among the safety lands, as will be portions of what is now Ohio, Indiana and Illinois, and much of the southern portion of Canada and the eastern portion of Canada; while the western land -- much of that is to be disturbed as, of course much in other lands."

"Strife will arise through the period. Watch for them near the Davis Strait in the attempts there for the keeping of the life line to land open. Watch for them in Libya and in Egypt, in Ankara and in Syria, through the straits about those areas above Australia, in the Indian Ocean and the Persian Gulf."



I typed "Ankara" into Google with +news. Here's what came up.
[link to www.hurriyetdailynews.com]
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 Quoting: Seer777


check it out today... [link to www.google.com]


Took me a awhile to remember where you typed this. LOL Peace
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Consider one thing

betwenn 3500 and 3600 years there are 100 years -.-
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Consider one thing

betwenn 3500 and 3600 years there are 100 years -.-
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I'm glad that you cleared that up...Whew! LOL.

Just giving you some grief man...just a little sarcasm for today.
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Here you go:

2 Peter 3:8–9

"But do not forget this one thing, dear friends: With the Lord a day is like a thousand years, and a thousand years are like a day. The Lord is not slow in keeping his promise, as some understand slowness. He is patient with you, not wanting anyone to perish, but everyone to come to repentance."
 Quoting: Seer777


Hey great thread, great compilation and makes perfect sense.


Just want to suggest that this verse has been mis-understood. When I read this verse, the meaning comes across as God existing outside of time. What is being said is that God could spend 1000 years inside of one day, or God can experience 1000 years within one day. God, existing beyond the dimension we perceive as time, needs no clock or calander.

That being said, I do believe prophecy may have a timetable for us, after all we do exist in a finite temporal reality.
 Quoting: Swordtongue 913336


You could be right however, there is this as well:

From the Bible:
Daniel 12:6-12
One of them said to the man clothed in linen, who was above the waters of the river, "How long will it be before these astonishing things are fulfilled?"
The man clothed in linen, who was above the waters of the river, lifted his right hand and his left hand toward heaven, and I heard him swear by him who lives forever, saying, "It will be for a time, times and half a time. When the power of the holy people has been finally broken, all these things will be completed."
8. I heard, but I did not understand. So I asked, "My lord, what will the outcome of all this be?"
He replied, "Go your way, Daniel, because the words are closed up and sealed until the time of the end.
Many will be purified, made spotless and refined, but the wicked will continue to be wicked. None of the wicked will understand, but those who are wise will understand.
"From the time that the daily sacrifice is abolished and the abomination that causes desolation is set up, there will be 1,290 days.
Blessed is the one who waits for and reaches the end of the 1,335 days

Time=1
Times=2
Half of time=.5
=3.5 or approximately 3500 years.

I believe that with this, "With the Lord a day is like a thousand years, and a thousand years are like a day" is in direct correlation with the verse in Daniel. It takes wisdom to see it:

"a day"=1
"a day"=1000 years

Time=1
Times=2
Half of time=.5
=3.5 or approximately 3500 years.

We do not know exactly when Daniel was given this message. it very well could fit into the 3600 year cyclical time line if it occur years or decades after Nibiru's return.

Thank you for your contribution.

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"Blood fell from the sky"

The methane atmosphere of brown dwarf stars contributes to violent storms and iron rain. Oxidized liquid iron could very well be looked at as "blood falling from the sky".

It's amazing. Many people think these ancient inscriptions or prophetic visions in the Bible are products of "miracles", but it could very well be a naturally occurring interaction of a brown dwarf star's orbit. I will reserved judgment until the end of September. I have written of hundreds of interpretations of Revelation, but the coincidences are too interesting.

God willing, may we always stay objective and steadfast against deceit. This opportunity strengthens our expectations, but let us not preach this as "truth" until we are assured... unlike many pseudo-Christians these days falsely interpreting every event as "prophetic".
 Quoting: Guildenstern



Exactly. This is all about seeing it with the right perspective. One that uses logic, wisdom, science, history, mathematics, myth, and faith.
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I think this is a very interesting read, but I'm pretty sure that plenty of other catastrophic events occurred outside of that 3600 year timeframe. So, this doesn't really prove much...
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Indeed they *do* occur outside of the 3600 year cycle. What makes this VERY intriguing however is that the 3600 year cycle can be found geologically and from what I think Seer and Koelbren, and the like have found is that the ancient "texts of wisdom" or religious manuscripts have kept and account in different languages and time periods of this same event. (run on sentence anyone?) The mysteries of our species' amnesia may very WELL be held in this event. I know I will be keeping a close eye on things for the next few weeks. Speaking of which...I need to get .45 ammo, that I will hopefully NOT need to use. Have a good day sir or ma'am!
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Well said!

The phrase "our species' amnesia" really hits home for me. You would think that we would have better records of what has transpired since the dawn of our intelligence, but the lack of info is...astonishing.

I think THAT is the best proof for this repeating event more than anything else.

And since you mention it...I think I have to go pick up some 12 guage shells myself. Good day to you as well!
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You could be right however, there is this as well:

From the Bible:
Daniel 12:6-12
One of them said to the man clothed in linen, who was above the waters of the river, "How long will it be before these astonishing things are fulfilled?"
The man clothed in linen, who was above the waters of the river, lifted his right hand and his left hand toward heaven, and I heard him swear by him who lives forever, saying, "It will be for a time, times and half a time. When the power of the holy people has been finally broken, all these things will be completed."
8. I heard, but I did not understand. So I asked, "My lord, what will the outcome of all this be?"
He replied, "Go your way, Daniel, because the words are closed up and sealed until the time of the end.
Many will be purified, made spotless and refined, but the wicked will continue to be wicked. None of the wicked will understand, but those who are wise will understand.
"From the time that the daily sacrifice is abolished and the abomination that causes desolation is set up, there will be 1,290 days.
Blessed is the one who waits for and reaches the end of the 1,335 days

Time=1
Times=2
Half of time=.5
=3.5 or approximately 3500 years.

I believe that with this, "With the Lord a day is like a thousand years, and a thousand years are like a day" is in direct correlation with the verse in Daniel. It takes wisdom to see it:

"a day"=1
"a day"=1000 years

Time=1
Times=2
Half of time=.5
=3.5 or approximately 3500 years.

We do not know exactly when Daniel was given this message. it very well could fit into the 3600 year cyclical time line if it occur years or decades after Nibiru's return.

Thank you for your contribution.
 Quoting: Seer777



I agree with you. I as well think this is referring to 3500 years, or a milennium, and milenniums, and half a milleniums. Our time, that is, the dimension we are given for the unfolding of events. A dimension un-neccessary to God except for our understanding.
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You could be right however, there is this as well:

From the Bible:
Daniel 12:6-12
One of them said to the man clothed in linen, who was above the waters of the river, "How long will it be before these astonishing things are fulfilled?"
The man clothed in linen, who was above the waters of the river, lifted his right hand and his left hand toward heaven, and I heard him swear by him who lives forever, saying, "It will be for a time, times and half a time. When the power of the holy people has been finally broken, all these things will be completed."
8. I heard, but I did not understand. So I asked, "My lord, what will the outcome of all this be?"
He replied, "Go your way, Daniel, because the words are closed up and sealed until the time of the end.
Many will be purified, made spotless and refined, but the wicked will continue to be wicked. None of the wicked will understand, but those who are wise will understand.
"From the time that the daily sacrifice is abolished and the abomination that causes desolation is set up, there will be 1,290 days.
Blessed is the one who waits for and reaches the end of the 1,335 days

Time=1
Times=2
Half of time=.5
=3.5 or approximately 3500 years.

I believe that with this, "With the Lord a day is like a thousand years, and a thousand years are like a day" is in direct correlation with the verse in Daniel. It takes wisdom to see it:

"a day"=1
"a day"=1000 years

Time=1
Times=2
Half of time=.5
=3.5 or approximately 3500 years.

We do not know exactly when Daniel was given this message. it very well could fit into the 3600 year cyclical time line if it occur years or decades after Nibiru's return.

Thank you for your contribution.
 Quoting: Seer777



I agree with you. I as well think this is referring to 3500 years, or a milennium, and milenniums, and half a milleniums. Our time, that is, the dimension we are given for the unfolding of events. A dimension un-neccessary to God except for our understanding.
 Quoting: Swordtongue 913336


That's one of the most intriguing supporting pieces of evidence for the "shar" theory.
This is the fate of man. He must strive for that which he cannot attain. He must believe in that which he cannot prove. He must seek that which he cannot find. He must travel a road without knowing his destination. Only thus can the purpose of life be fulfilled.

For I tell you, God will not do things you are too apathetic to do for yourselves.
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That's one of the most intriguing supporting pieces of evidence for the "shar" theory.
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I can't find much about that theory. Could you elaborate a bit?
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That's one of the most intriguing supporting pieces of evidence for the "shar" theory.
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I can't find much about that theory. Could you elaborate a bit?
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The shar was the year of the gods according to the Sumerians, that's where the whole idea of the 3600 year cycle of Nibiru comes from, Sitchin made that hypothesis, but I am not aware of Sitchin ever mentioning that passage of Daniel so I guess he wasn't aware of it.
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That's one of the most intriguing supporting pieces of evidence for the "shar" theory.
 Quoting: Koelbren


I can't find much about that theory. Could you elaborate a bit?
 Quoting: Seer777


The shar was the year of the gods according to the Sumerians, that's where the whole idea of the 3600 year cycle of Nibiru comes from, Sitchin made that hypothesis, but I am not aware of Sitchin ever mentioning that passage of Daniel so I guess he wasn't aware of it.
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Speaking of 3600 year cycles...Ever heard of this one?

Treta-yuga, lasts 3600 years of the demigod

LINK: [link to www.mcremo.com]

I'll have to try and run some correlation checks against other world religions and their time structures...Like the Maya. : )
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The shar was the year of the gods according to the Sumerians, that's where the whole idea of the 3600 year cycle of Nibiru comes from, Sitchin made that hypothesis, but I am not aware of Sitchin ever mentioning that passage of Daniel so I guess he wasn't aware of it.
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That IS intriguing. I was never certain how Sitchen came up with that number. The Biblical verses I mentioned above made sense to me and correlated with Sitchen's findings, which is why I used it as a reference point for this thread.
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I would give you good karma for this! But unfortunately I am all out of it for the day! Thanks op!
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The shar was the year of the gods according to the Sumerians, that's where the whole idea of the 3600 year cycle of Nibiru comes from, Sitchin made that hypothesis, but I am not aware of Sitchin ever mentioning that passage of Daniel so I guess he wasn't aware of it.
 Quoting: Koelbren

That IS intriguing. I was never certain how Sitchen came up with that number. The Biblical verses I mentioned above made sense to me and correlated with Sitchen's findings, which is why I used it as a reference point for this thread.
 Quoting: Seer777


"It seems likely that the word `SAR (shar) in Sumerian, which
denotes the second power of 60, actually referred originally to a
disk-shaped or ball-shaped counter.
"

"Shar, "3600," also serves to denote
"myriad," or a very large number."
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Here you go:

2 Peter 3:8–9

"But do not forget this one thing, dear friends: With the Lord a day is like a thousand years, and a thousand years are like a day. The Lord is not slow in keeping his promise, as some understand slowness. He is patient with you, not wanting anyone to perish, but everyone to come to repentance."
 Quoting: Seer777


Hey great thread, great compilation and makes perfect sense.


Just want to suggest that this verse has been mis-understood. When I read this verse, the meaning comes across as God existing outside of time. What is being said is that God could spend 1000 years inside of one day, or God can experience 1000 years within one day. God, existing beyond the dimension we perceive as time, needs no clock or calander.

That being said, I do believe prophecy may have a timetable for us, after all we do exist in a finite temporal reality.
 Quoting: Swordtongue 913336


You could be right however, there is this as well:

From the Bible:
Daniel 12:6-12
One of them said to the man clothed in linen, who was above the waters of the river, "How long will it be before these astonishing things are fulfilled?"
The man clothed in linen, who was above the waters of the river, lifted his right hand and his left hand toward heaven, and I heard him swear by him who lives forever, saying, "It will be for a time, times and half a time. When the power of the holy people has been finally broken, all these things will be completed."
8. I heard, but I did not understand. So I asked, "My lord, what will the outcome of all this be?"
He replied, "Go your way, Daniel, because the words are closed up and sealed until the time of the end.
Many will be purified, made spotless and refined, but the wicked will continue to be wicked. None of the wicked will understand, but those who are wise will understand.
"From the time that the daily sacrifice is abolished and the abomination that causes desolation is set up, there will be 1,290 days.
Blessed is the one who waits for and reaches the end of the 1,335 days

Time=1
Times=2
Half of time=.5
=3.5 or approximately 3500 years.

I believe that with this, "With the Lord a day is like a thousand years, and a thousand years are like a day" is in direct correlation with the verse in Daniel. It takes wisdom to see it:

"a day"=1
"a day"=1000 years

Time=1
Times=2
Half of time=.5
=3.5 or approximately 3500 years.

We do not know exactly when Daniel was given this message. it very well could fit into the 3600 year cyclical time line if it occur years or decades after Nibiru's return.

Thank you for your contribution.
 Quoting: Seer777


Here you go:

2 Peter 3:8–9

"But do not forget this one thing, dear friends: With the Lord a day is like a thousand years, and a thousand years are like a day. The Lord is not slow in keeping his promise, as some understand slowness. He is patient with you, not wanting anyone to perish, but everyone to come to repentance."
 Quoting: Seer777


Hey great thread, great compilation and makes perfect sense.


Just want to suggest that this verse has been mis-understood. When I read this verse, the meaning comes across as God existing outside of time. What is being said is that God could spend 1000 years inside of one day, or God can experience 1000 years within one day. God, existing beyond the dimension we perceive as time, needs no clock or calander.

That being said, I do believe prophecy may have a timetable for us, after all we do exist in a finite temporal reality.
 Quoting: Swordtongue 913336


You could be right however, there is this as well:

From the Bible:
Daniel 12:6-12
One of them said to the man clothed in linen, who was above the waters of the river, "How long will it be before these astonishing things are fulfilled?"
The man clothed in linen, who was above the waters of the river, lifted his right hand and his left hand toward heaven, and I heard him swear by him who lives forever, saying, "It will be for a time, times and half a time. When the power of the holy people has been finally broken, all these things will be completed."
8. I heard, but I did not understand. So I asked, "My lord, what will the outcome of all this be?"
He replied, "Go your way, Daniel, because the words are closed up and sealed until the time of the end.
Many will be purified, made spotless and refined, but the wicked will continue to be wicked. None of the wicked will understand, but those who are wise will understand.
"From the time that the daily sacrifice is abolished and the abomination that causes desolation is set up, there will be 1,290 days.
Blessed is the one who waits for and reaches the end of the 1,335 days

Time=1
Times=2
Half of time=.5
=3.5 or approximately 3500 years.

I believe that with this, "With the Lord a day is like a thousand years, and a thousand years are like a day" is in direct correlation with the verse in Daniel. It takes wisdom to see it:

"a day"=1
"a day"=1000 years

Time=1
Times=2
Half of time=.5
=3.5 or approximately 3500 years.

We do not know exactly when Daniel was given this message. it very well could fit into the 3600 year cyclical time line if it occur years or decades after Nibiru's return.

Thank you for your contribution.
 Quoting: Seer777


There's also this from Psalms 90:4 For a thousand years in your sight are like a day that has just gone by, or like a watch in the night.
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There's also this from Psalms 90:4 For a thousand years in your sight are like a day that has just gone by, or like a watch in the night.
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Thank you for finding this. The bold area gave me mental shivers.
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There's also this from Psalms 90:4 For a thousand years in your sight are like a day that has just gone by, or like a watch in the night.
 Quoting: ayala678

Thank you for finding this. The bold area gave me mental shivers.
 Quoting: Seer777


This could very well be related to the Sumerian shar as we must remember the Hebrews were Mesopotamians who descended from a Sumerian Linage (Abraham from UR). I am certain many aspects of the Sumerian religion creeped into Hebraic religion but were modified to fit monotheism.
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For a thousand years in your sight are like a day that has just gone by...

 Quoting: Koelbren


This could be alluding immortality as well. If they never die and are immortal, then a thousand years would be of little consequence.

Most people consider God(s) to be immortal, I assume.

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