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Life and Love User ID: 1525154 United States 09/15/2011 08:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I can't believe your children are asking such questions. How horrid! God is all-knowing and all-powerful and He created this world. This should not be questioned! To question the word of God is to betray Him and His son!! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1536799 I read your post carefully, and I read the OP carefully. There is nothing in the OP that "question the word of God." But I applaud the OP for having children who ask thoughtful questions! We become like that to which we are devoted. - Choose wisely. |
PENG (OP) User ID: 1159762 United States 09/15/2011 08:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Then my 10yr old said, "yeah, that hurts my brain. And what's outside of the universe?" Quoting: PENG Seriously? For believers, what's your response, because the reply that God has always just "been", didn't fly well. It was a Santa Claus moment for sure. You got a really smart kid, and whether you think this would be appropriate- I don't know. But I came to the conclusion that the human mind isn't capable of understanding God. But there is a lot to learn watch how he/she/it does things. I personally like the idea that God is a woman, but I still wouldn't be able to tell you that's true. Yes! I told them most of us can't understand the details of it. Then when I dropped the bomb that they can't think of "him" in human form, well, that's when I got pure silence for a moment. Then the next question was verbatim.... "wuh, wuh, wait. Let me get this straight... Then what does he look like, and how does he hear all these voices talking to him at once, every day?" Well, honestly, I got depressed that night! I thought, uh, gooood question hun. Seriously, I have been getting hammered with serious questions from him the last year. He says it hurts his brain to think about it. Lol. Uh. Yeeeah. "May the road rise up to meet you.... May the wind be always at your back..." |
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PENG (OP) User ID: 1159762 United States 09/15/2011 08:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I can't believe your children are asking such questions. How horrid! God is all-knowing and all-powerful and He created this world. This should not be questioned! To question the word of God is to betray Him and His son!! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1536799 I read your post carefully, and I read the OP carefully. There is nothing in the OP that "question the word of God." But I applaud the OP for having children who ask thoughtful questions! Ouch. :-(. No no. It's not is there a God. It's the very details of how he has always been. To a child, and most adults, there is a beginning. But how did the beginning begin. That's their question. God created God makes no sense to a 10 year old. I tried to say he is everywhere, but that's what is difficult for him to wrap around his head. And btw, Jesus said something about it being okay to question..... He is just thinking hard about it. With aspergers, or whatever people want to label this kind of child, he wants to find logic in it all. It " blows his mind" to think about God and that he's always been, and whats on the other side of the universe. "May the road rise up to meet you.... May the wind be always at your back..." |
PENG (OP) User ID: 1159762 United States 09/15/2011 08:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Then my 10yr old said, "yeah, that hurts my brain. And what's outside of the universe?" Quoting: PENG Seriously? For believers, what's your response, because the reply that God has always just "been", didn't fly well. It was a Santa Claus moment for sure. Tell your son his dad created him. Lmao! Nice! I'm sure dad would love that. ;) "May the road rise up to meet you.... May the wind be always at your back..." |
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Life and Love User ID: 1525154 United States 09/15/2011 08:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Ouch. :-(. No no. It's not is there a God. It's the very details of how he has always been. To a child, and most adults, there is a beginning. But how did the beginning begin. That's their question. God created God makes no sense to a 10 year old. I tried to say he is everywhere, but that's what is difficult for him to wrap around his head. Quoting: PENG ^^THIS^^ is what I was getting at in my "domain mismatch" post. And btw, Jesus said something about it being okay to question..... Quoting: PENGHe is just thinking hard about it. With aspergers, or whatever people want to label this kind of child, he wants to find logic in it all. It " blows his mind" to think about God and that he's always been, and whats on the other side of the universe. Quoting: PENGMy daughter is a 4th grade teacher, and children like yours are the delight of her life! We become like that to which we are devoted. - Choose wisely. |
Sungaze_At_Dawn User ID: 1458670 Canada 09/15/2011 08:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Fractal Mathematical Rabbit Hole The error here is zooming in on ONE loan fractal. Infinity never does that, there are infinite fractals, infinite ONE-1....s. You cannot make a measurement, place a dot anywhere on an infinite line and its the same measure of endlessness all around. All energies are infinite, including our intellegences. The universe is earth's universe, one of infinite layers of frequency. We're in the middle, on the point of light between light and dark, in the school. This school has prime creator(s), Father/Mother/Family/Yeshua. Love is the answer. Prime Creator is always discovering Himself/Herself to the Child of yet another Creation. All things exist eteranlly, and all progress, though spirits sometimes have to make U-Turns many times to do so. All things have a teleos purpose, progression, evolving, growth. There is No Time, the clock is in our head, each moment of our lives hangs in space forever, like clips in a roll of film. Higher Self is Future Self in the journey, progressed Future Self. We have a Family, Dad and Mom. Last Edited by Sungaze_At_Dawn on 09/15/2011 09:00 PM The Devil tries to convince everyone he doesn't exist. The state tries to convince everyone they cannot resist. Do not go quietly into the good night. Rage Rage against the dying light! |
PENG (OP) User ID: 1159762 United States 09/15/2011 09:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Then my 10yr old said, "yeah, that hurts my brain. And what's outside of the universe?" Quoting: PENG Seriously? For believers, what's your response, because the reply that God has always just "been", didn't fly well. It was a Santa Claus moment for sure. The question is actually futile because our thinking is bound by time and space. Trying to explain eternity while a sentient being inside of time and space is an attempt to explain what is outside of our dimension having never been there. One of the prerequisites of being GOD is a self existing status. In other words, not created. Inside of time and space everything that exists has a beginning and an end. Outside of time and space, is "who knows?, eternity?, higher dimensions?" If there is a plane where time doesn't exist, then there would be no beginning or end; eternity. If there is no beginning or end the concept of self existence and not having a beginning can be better understood. However, trying to understand this theory inside of time and space is a waste of TIME. He said "ahhh" one day when I told him that humans invented time. Not sure if it was a lightbulb moment or a " she's nuts" thought. :-/ But he did get my dad when he heard him say that the universe is expanding.... He popped in and asked " into what?" eventually I just said we don't know and could be that we aren't meant to know it all. That kept him quiet for awhile. "May the road rise up to meet you.... May the wind be always at your back..." |
PENG (OP) User ID: 1159762 United States 09/15/2011 09:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Ouch. :-(. No no. It's not is there a God. It's the very details of how he has always been. To a child, and most adults, there is a beginning. But how did the beginning begin. That's their question. God created God makes no sense to a 10 year old. I tried to say he is everywhere, but that's what is difficult for him to wrap around his head. Quoting: PENG ^^THIS^^ is what I was getting at in my "domain mismatch" post. And btw, Jesus said something about it being okay to question..... Quoting: PENGHe is just thinking hard about it. With aspergers, or whatever people want to label this kind of child, he wants to find logic in it all. It " blows his mind" to think about God and that he's always been, and whats on the other side of the universe. Quoting: PENGMy daughter is a 4th grade teacher, and children like yours are the delight of her life! Ironic to say thank God for teachers like her. I think he irritates a couple of them. He's really pretty quiet, just likes to talk to adults more so than kids. Good for her. And thank her for me, because it means a great deal to a child, and their mother. "May the road rise up to meet you.... May the wind be always at your back..." |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1535899 Australia 09/15/2011 09:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Then my 10yr old said, "yeah, that hurts my brain. And what's outside of the universe?" Quoting: PENG Seriously? For believers, what's your response, because the reply that God has always just "been", didn't fly well. It was a Santa Claus moment for sure. No shit, my son asked the exactly the same question a few weeks back. |
Life and Love User ID: 1525154 United States 09/15/2011 09:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | My daughter is a 4th grade teacher, and children like yours are the delight of her life! Quoting: Life and Love Ironic to say thank God for teachers like her. I think he irritates a couple of them. He's really pretty quiet, just likes to talk to adults more so than kids. Good for her. And thank her for me, because it means a great deal to a child, and their mother. I think it's because they are more "what you see is what you get" - totally authentic and genuine, unlike some of the others who are already playing "games." We become like that to which we are devoted. - Choose wisely. |
PENG (OP) User ID: 1159762 United States 09/15/2011 09:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | No no. Even if this was the case, it certainly doesn't hurt to believe. I mean, there's a good chance you are very wrong. In that case, I'd play it safe and practice faith! "May the road rise up to meet you.... May the wind be always at your back..." |
Life and Love User ID: 1525154 United States 09/15/2011 09:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | No no. Even if this was the case, it certainly doesn't hurt to believe. I mean, there's a good chance you are very wrong. In that case, I'd play it safe and practice faith! OP, I've been thinking about this since the beginning of your thread. How do you answer a 5-year old or 10-year old on questions like these? Maybe a good approach would be: "I don't exactly know, but maybe over time you and I can find out together." We become like that to which we are devoted. - Choose wisely. |
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PENG (OP) User ID: 1159762 United States 09/15/2011 09:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | My daughter is a 4th grade teacher, and children like yours are the delight of her life! Quoting: Life and Love Ironic to say thank God for teachers like her. I think he irritates a couple of them. He's really pretty quiet, just likes to talk to adults more so than kids. Good for her. And thank her for me, because it means a great deal to a child, and their mother. I think it's because they are more "what you see is what you get" - totally authentic and genuine, unlike some of the others who are already playing "games." Omg! You hit the nail on the head in one sentence! That describes him perfectly. Oh my. You are correct. :-) "May the road rise up to meet you.... May the wind be always at your back..." |
PENG (OP) User ID: 1159762 United States 09/15/2011 09:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | No no. Even if this was the case, it certainly doesn't hurt to believe. I mean, there's a good chance you are very wrong. In that case, I'd play it safe and practice faith! OP, I've been thinking about this since the beginning of your thread. How do you answer a 5-year old or 10-year old on questions like these? Maybe a good approach would be: "I don't exactly know, but maybe over time you and I can find out together." Yes, and I want to know what they think. What their perceptions are. They haven't been conformed so much because they continue to ask, so I find their thoughts very interesting. :) "May the road rise up to meet you.... May the wind be always at your back..." |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1551775 Australia 09/15/2011 09:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | left to their own thoughts, children who are aware of other cultures and their different beliefs usually arrive at the conclusion that gods are created by the humans that need them. Especially that god that sends bad people to hell. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1298522 United States 09/15/2011 09:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I made God, and Oneness made I. Quoting: IAMONENESS ALL is ONE, One God (Father/Mother) made infinite Gods of oneness. Try this: I am the poster named Oneness. I am the writings of the poster named Oneness. I am every poster on GLP right now. I am every writing of every poster on GLP. I was every poster that ever posted on GLP. I was every writing of every poster that posted on GLP. I was every person that has ever existed. I was every writing that has ever existed. I made Myself, I make Myself, and I will make Myself. That I = God is the irrefragible conclusion. I am the Creator and Creation all rolled into One. Hence, I am the 5 year old boy, asking Myself who made Me, the 5 year old boy. Tautologically, I am the 5 year old boy, asking Myself how I made Myself. If I keep asking questions, eventually I find that I am the Questioner, the Question, the Answerer and the Answer all rolled into One. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1538188 United States 09/15/2011 09:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Answer honestly. No one knows the answer to these questions. Anyone who claims to have the answer is either deluded, trying to manipulate you or just lying. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1538188 Not true. Look at the energy explanation. It is very simple. What is not simple is explaining where it all came from because it has always been. And that is how God is described. He is dynamic energy. Not sure but I would guess that the energy explanation is really just a theory. Maybe it is based on the best scientific information to date but..... Besides, it does not even begin to address the obviously follow up questions like, Why or What is the purpose? Stick with no one knows for sure and if they tell you they know for sure they are full of BS. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1538188 United States 09/15/2011 09:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I can't believe your children are asking such questions. How horrid! God is all-knowing and all-powerful and He created this world. This should not be questioned! To question the word of God is to betray Him and His son!! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1536799 God does not exist. And besides you couldn't betray God, if God did exist. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 950716 United States 09/15/2011 09:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Science says that energy cannot be created nor destroyed. Wrap your mind around that one. Energy has always been. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1550123 Now God is said to be dynamic energy with a personality(he has a spirit body rather than a physical one) who has no beginning nor end. From a scientific viewpoint this is correct and makes perfect sense. God has always been just like energy has always been. Some things humans are just not meant to understand. It just IS. We don't question where energy from because we just know it to be here and will always be here. So why question where God came from. All we need to know is he has always been here and will never leave us. Ever. That's actually very good. It just is. Hmm. I did attempt to answer this way at one time, with a rebuttal of, ya but...". That's when I asked if they want to go get ice cream. Kids. Wait till he starts thinking about breaking down particles - you know, to understand what's INSIDE...like, "what's in an atom?" - "Protons and Neurons" - "OK. Let's split those open. What's inside those?" - "Um....Leptons? Quarks?" - "Well, what are THOSE made of then?" - "Um, nothing..those are the smallest things! (look smug even though not sure)".... "Well that's just silly, they HAVE to be made of SOMETHING, cause SOMETHING can't come from NOTHING, right?" - "Go do your homework!!" Or...when they start questioning you about Zeno's Paradox: "Suppose Homer wants to catch a stationary bus. Before he can get there, he must get halfway there. Before he can get halfway there, he must get a quarter of the way there. Before traveling a quarter, he must travel one-eighth; before an eighth, one-sixteenth; and so on. - But mom! He can NEVER REALLY ARRIVE!!" "I SAID GO DO YOUR HOMEWORK!! AAAGGHH!!" Good luck with that. ;-) |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1538188 United States 09/15/2011 09:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | No no. Even if this was the case, it certainly doesn't hurt to believe. I mean, there's a good chance you are very wrong. In that case, I'd play it safe and practice faith! What is to say you are practicing the correct faith then? If you are like most people, your beliefs are probably very close to the one you were born into not the result of a real search for meaning and truth. |
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Canadian_K User ID: 1435305 Canada 09/15/2011 09:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | There was an interesting idea from some man (can't remember his name). But it was basically like this. The question: Is there an edge to the universe? His answer: No, because hitting a "wall" in the universe means there is something beyond that wall. Therefore, space is infinite. The other thing to think about is this. The true definition of nothing is just that NOTHING. You cannot create something from nothing because that defies the definition of nothing. Therefore, because there is something now, there has always been something. You can turn this idea into whatever you want. It could mean that something that has always existed is God, or the universe (not necessarily in a comparable form as it is now). To me, that is a mind blowing idea when you think about it. You could go back in time FOREVER and never reach a beginning. Thus, time is infinite to the past and infinite to the future (of course seeing infinite to the future is much easier for us since we progress into the future throughout our lives). As for the answer to "who made God"? Well we just have to face the fact that infinity is not something we can comprehend, and that the universe is here now and we just have to accept that. Whether you believe in God or not, the universe's existence is bizarre to say the least. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1541888 United States 09/15/2011 09:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | No no. Even if this was the case, it certainly doesn't hurt to believe. I mean, there's a good chance you are very wrong. In that case, I'd play it safe and practice faith! You don't get to9 'practice'[ faith. Don't believe me? OK, take the next five minutes and 'practice' believing that plants can't grow in sunlight. You can't force yourself to believe anything that contradicts your own experience. If god is real (He;s not, so don't panic) then he hac read your thoughts and knows everything in your mind. Saying you 'believe' just to cover your bets cannot fool an entity who can read your mind. If you still have doubts then spend another 5 minutes 'practicing' the belief that only Tabasco sauce can quench your thirst. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 950716 United States 09/15/2011 09:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | There was an interesting idea from some man (can't remember his name). But it was basically like this. Quoting: Canadian_K The question: Is there an edge to the universe? His answer: No, because hitting a "wall" in the universe means there is something beyond that wall. Therefore, space is infinite. The other thing to think about is this. The true definition of nothing is just that NOTHING. You cannot create something from nothing because that defies the definition of nothing. Therefore, because there is something now, there has always been something. You can turn this idea into whatever you want. It could mean that something that has always existed is God, or the universe (not necessarily in a comparable form as it is now). To me, that is a mind blowing idea when you think about it. You could go back in time FOREVER and never reach a beginning. Thus, time is infinite to the past and infinite to the future (of course seeing infinite to the future is much easier for us since we progress into the future throughout our lives). As for the answer to "who made God"? Well we just have to face the fact that infinity is not something we can comprehend, and that the universe is here now and we just have to accept that. Whether you believe in God or not, the universe's existence is bizarre to say the least. Very much my same conclusions over these same thoughts and questions I asked years ago...... The best advice to make peace with these thoughts: Be here now be here now (infinity)! |