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If God is perfect why did he create something imperfect like man.

 
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If God is perfect why did he create something imperfect like man.
Okay explain this to me.

If God is perfect then everything he creates should be perfect. Earth, the universe, the animals on earth and mankind.

But look what fucked up beings we are on this planet. We are murderers, destroyers of nature and this planet.

How could a perfect God create this. And more importantly why?

Only logical answer is a perfect God didn't create us. We created us. Our imperfect selves. There is no perfect God.flip
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We are a genetically modified apes.
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Okay explain this to me.

If God is perfect then everything he creates should be perfect. Earth, the universe, the animals on earth and mankind.

But look what fucked up beings we are on this planet. We are murderers, destroyers of nature and this planet.

How could a perfect God create this. And more importantly why?

Only logical answer is a perfect God didn't create us. We created us. Our imperfect selves. There is no perfect God.flip
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it's none of your business
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We suck!afro
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so are you saying "god" conspires against ushuffy
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What impetus could exist for a perfect being to have to do anything. If he created us at all it shows that he wasn't perfection because he found it necessary to alter his state of being. Now perhaps a being could be perfect now in sense that everything so far as we know is complete but then again the universe is an ongoing process. Perhaps God won't be truly perfect until the universe runs its coarse. But who knows, by then God may feel the need to create another universe.
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A lesson learned is far more valuable than an opinion given.
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Supposedly God created Satan too. What a fucked up thing to do! I'm amazed at how many people believe creation fairy tales.
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Re: If God is perfect why did he create something imperfect like man.
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Unlike a lot of Christian Theology, I do believe that God created man imperfect. ie We did not fall from grace... we were never perfect (with perfect knowledge, incapable of sin, etc).

My theory, and until I die and find out for sure, it will only be a theory... is that: IF God created us perfect, and we only EVER knew perfection, how would we know the *value* of perfection?

I believe that this life is like it is so that we have / gain an understanding of pain suffering etc so that we have something to compare perfection to, and thus when we attain perfection we will be able to fully appreciate it.



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If God were really perfect. We would all have wings and would be flying all over heaven right now.

If God were really perfect he would've known long before creating man that Lucifer his most brilliant angel would turn against him one day. And that angel would deceive other angels that he imperfectly created to turn against him. And he would have to banish them all to this planet called earth.

And then the perfect God not learning his lesson that he cannot create anything perfect continues to experiment making imperfect things by creating animals on earth and eventually man and woman. And we know how that went with Eve eating the apple.

So what gives God? Why you fucking with us up there? Hello??? You still there, God?????
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I hate people. I hate stupid polite chit chat type conversations. I avoid people as much as I can. I have my few like minded lifetime friends and that's enough for me.

Fuck Facebook and all your fake friends.

Facebook is where the friendless make friends.
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He created us "not" perfect {maybe physically}, but with free-will which has in itself given way to Satan the loser who makes us imperfect through our fall when we give in. The work from God's hands was perfect, beyond that it's on someone else.
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If God were really perfect. We would all have wings and would be flying all over heaven right now.

If God were really perfect he would've known long before creating man that Lucifer his most brilliant angel would turn against him one day. And that angel would deceive other angels that he imperfectly created to turn against him. And he would have to banish them all to this planet called earth.

And then the perfect God not learning his lesson that he cannot create anything perfect continues to experiment making imperfect things by creating animals on earth and eventually man and woman. And we know how that went with Eve eating the apple.

So what gives God? Why you fucking with us up there? Hello??? You still there, God?????
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He had to do this because He knew it would happen at one point in the future so he could finally flush this scumbag and his minions into the lake of fire and be done with him. Also in the process to refine his followers into the leaders he wants us to be.
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Okay explain this to me.

If God is perfect then everything he creates should be perfect. Earth, the universe, the animals on earth and mankind.

But look what fucked up beings we are on this planet. We are murderers, destroyers of nature and this planet.

How could a perfect God create this. And more importantly why?

Only logical answer is a perfect God didn't create us. We created us. Our imperfect selves. There is no perfect God.flip
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If God were really perfect. We would all have wings and would be flying all over heaven right now.

If God were really perfect he would've known long before creating man that Lucifer his most brilliant angel would turn against him one day. And that angel would deceive other angels that he imperfectly created to turn against him. And he would have to banish them all to this planet called earth.

And then the perfect God not learning his lesson that he cannot create anything perfect continues to experiment making imperfect things by creating animals on earth and eventually man and woman. And we know how that went with Eve eating the apple.

So what gives God? Why you fucking with us up there? Hello??? You still there, God?????
 Quoting: ungodlike productions 1551466


He had to do this because He knew it would happen at one point in the future so he could finally flush this scumbag and his minions into the lake of fire and be done with him. Also in the process to refine his followers into the leaders he wants us to be.
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So we were just pawns in the grand scheme of ousting Lucifer once and for all? Well that just sucks. And I am not surprised one bit by this.
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If God were really perfect. We would all have wings and would be flying all over heaven right now.

If God were really perfect he would've known long before creating man that Lucifer his most brilliant angel would turn against him one day. And that angel would deceive other angels that he imperfectly created to turn against him. And he would have to banish them all to this planet called earth.

And then the perfect God not learning his lesson that he cannot create anything perfect continues to experiment making imperfect things by creating animals on earth and eventually man and woman. And we know how that went with Eve eating the apple.

So what gives God? Why you fucking with us up there? Hello??? You still there, God?????
 Quoting: ungodlike productions 1551466


He had to do this because He knew it would happen at one point in the future so he could finally flush this scumbag and his minions into the lake of fire and be done with him. Also in the process to refine his followers into the leaders he wants us to be.
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So we were just pawns in the grand scheme of ousting Lucifer once and for all? Well that just sucks. And I am not surprised one bit by this.
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You might be....but not His chosen people. lol
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He created us "not" perfect {maybe physically}, but with free-will which has in itself given way to Satan the loser who makes us imperfect through our fall when we give in. The work from God's hands was perfect, beyond that it's on someone else.
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This question would have some meaning, if there was actually a perfect god to start with! But there’s no such thing..so it is, at best, a rhetorical question!

You see...god is just a man made hierarchal theory and a label created and given by both deluded evil and good fools throughout history to describe the polar paradoxes of universal energy (which fundamentally has duality). There is not one single thing in this universe is either stable, perfect or infinite. In fact, I would go as far to say, that this universe it is a perfect example of being completely imperfect (if you can actually understand the duality of that too...LOL).

Humans and perhaps other deluded (advanced yet dumb) creature (like ETS) have always tried a understand yet then often manipulate and control the truth and information to suit their personal ego’s, fears and agendas, in attempting to rationalise all the conflicting, opposing forces and realities of this world and universe and life (i.e. good and bad etc, etc). In response they have invented hundreds of unfounded unscientific theories and mystical stories to justify things into a polar order systems – i.e. the good comes from a good god who loves and cares for us and the bad from evil gods or Satan who hate us etc,etc.

The reality however is much more simple yet complex LOL (you see....these polarities in action again LOL) , You see every single thing in the universe has duality (yes...even in singularities)... and therefore all have the natural inherent ability to fluctuate between the two contained polar opposite forces.

A good example of this is electricity and gas, they are primarily invisible forces that can do many positives things ...but can equally kill, hurt and destroy things and us at the same time..Got it?

So to cut a long story short.... I say this to all religious people blindly following their polar god,....You are deluding yourself, and without your knowledge, actually worshiping both god and the devil ...as they are both (and can only be) one half of the same whole!

Now personally I don’t care one way or the other if you want to waste your time and money believing in some made up man-made spiritual control and money making doctrines (there’s millions of them out there to choose..Disney and harry potter are just as relevant..but it’s your choice!

But one thing’s for sure.... you can never actually escape this fundamental truth of universal duality and polarity, in the end.
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he did not!

you are the product of cosmic miscarriage. Deal with it.
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There is no God.
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fixed it for ya.

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Understand that WE ARE ALL THERE IS - we have to make this homeworld work to everyone's advantage.

:)

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Okay explain this to me.

If God is perfect then everything he creates should be perfect. Earth, the universe, the animals on earth and mankind.

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Humans are perfect. It the fear, or control by other humans that makes us otherwise. If we were to act like animals (listen to our instincts), we would see how perfect we really are. God is inside of us, not in some book or church.
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But one thing’s for sure.... you can never actually escape this fundamental truth of universal duality and polarity, in the end.
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not that sure for everyone. only the aborted filth sticks to duality forever. I am not claiming that i am different from you, but i am trying to deal with this truth.
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He created us "not" perfect {maybe physically}, but with free-will which has in itself given way to Satan the loser who makes us imperfect through our fall when we give in. The work from God's hands was perfect, beyond that it's on someone else.
 Quoting: pwned 1469175


This question would have some meaning, if there was actually a perfect god to start with! But there’s no such thing..so it is, at best, a rhetorical question!

You see...god is just a man made hierarchal theory and a label created and given by both deluded evil and good fools throughout history to describe the polar paradoxes of universal energy (which fundamentally has duality). There is not one single thing in this universe is either stable, perfect or infinite. In fact, I would go as far to say, that this universe it is a perfect example of being completely imperfect (if you can actually understand the duality of that too...LOL).

Humans and perhaps other deluded (advanced yet dumb) creature (like ETS) have always tried a understand yet then often manipulate and control the truth and information to suit their personal ego’s, fears and agendas, in attempting to rationalise all the conflicting, opposing forces and realities of this world and universe and life (i.e. good and bad etc, etc). In response they have invented hundreds of unfounded unscientific theories and mystical stories to justify things into a polar order systems – i.e. the good comes from a good god who loves and cares for us and the bad from evil gods or Satan who hate us etc,etc.

The reality however is much more simple yet complex LOL (you see....these polarities in action again LOL) , You see every single thing in the universe has duality (yes...even in singularities)... and therefore all have the natural inherent ability to fluctuate between the two contained polar opposite forces.

A good example of this is electricity and gas, they are primarily invisible forces that can do many positives things ...but can equally kill, hurt and destroy things and us at the same time..Got it?

So to cut a long story short.... I say this to all religious people blindly following their polar god,....You are deluding yourself, and without your knowledge, actually worshiping both god and the devil ...as they are both (and can only be) one half of the same whole!

Now personally I don’t care one way or the other if you want to waste your time and money believing in some made up man-made spiritual control and money making doctrines (there’s millions of them out there to choose..Disney and harry potter are just as relevant..but it’s your choice!

But one thing’s for sure.... you can never actually escape this fundamental truth of universal duality and polarity, in the end.
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You sure have a lot to say about something that doesn't exist.
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Okay explain this to me.

If God is perfect then everything he creates should be perfect. Earth, the universe, the animals on earth and mankind.

But look what XXX up beings we are on this planet. We are murderers, destroyers of nature and this planet.

How could a perfect God create this. And more importantly why?

Only logical answer is a perfect God didn't create us. We created us. Our imperfect selves. There is no perfect God.flip
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God gave Adam special gifts that he lost committing
original sin. The gift to see the consequence of Original
Sin. This is why His sin was so grave. Adam and
Eve repented, they are in Heaven.

The mercy of God.
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He created us "not" perfect {maybe physically}, but with free-will which has in itself given way to Satan the loser who makes us imperfect through our fall when we give in. The work from God's hands was perfect, beyond that it's on someone else.
 Quoting: pwned 1469175


This question would have some meaning, if there was actually a perfect god to start with! But there’s no such thing..so it is, at best, a rhetorical question!

You see...god is just a man made hierarchal theory and a label created and given by both deluded evil and good fools throughout history to describe the polar paradoxes of universal energy (which fundamentally has duality). There is not one single thing in this universe is either stable, perfect or infinite. In fact, I would go as far to say, that this universe it is a perfect example of being completely imperfect (if you can actually understand the duality of that too...LOL).

Humans and perhaps other deluded (advanced yet dumb) creature (like ETS) have always tried a understand yet then often manipulate and control the truth and information to suit their personal ego’s, fears and agendas, in attempting to rationalise all the conflicting, opposing forces and realities of this world and universe and life (i.e. good and bad etc, etc). In response they have invented hundreds of unfounded unscientific theories and mystical stories to justify things into a polar order systems – i.e. the good comes from a good god who loves and cares for us and the bad from evil gods or Satan who hate us etc,etc.

The reality however is much more simple yet complex LOL (you see....these polarities in action again LOL) , You see every single thing in the universe has duality (yes...even in singularities)... and therefore all have the natural inherent ability to fluctuate between the two contained polar opposite forces.

A good example of this is electricity and gas, they are primarily invisible forces that can do many positives things ...but can equally kill, hurt and destroy things and us at the same time..Got it?

So to cut a long story short.... I say this to all religious people blindly following their polar god,....You are deluding yourself, and without your knowledge, actually worshiping both god and the devil ...as they are both (and can only be) one half of the same whole!

Now personally I don’t care one way or the other if you want to waste your time and money believing in some made up man-made spiritual control and money making doctrines (there’s millions of them out there to choose..Disney and harry potter are just as relevant..but it’s your choice!

But one thing’s for sure.... you can never actually escape this fundamental truth of universal duality and polarity, in the end.
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You sure have a lot to say about something that doesn't exist.
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^^^this
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FREE-WILL of course!hf
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The whole "god" story is made up by people; it's called mythopoeic thinking. It's when you don't use your entire brain to think because there is no data to work with.
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Okay explain this to me.

If God is perfect then everything he creates should be perfect. Earth, the universe, the animals on earth and mankind.

But look what fucked up beings we are on this planet. We are murderers, destroyers of nature and this planet.

How could a perfect God create this. And more importantly why?

Only logical answer is a perfect God didn't create us. We created us. Our imperfect selves. There is no perfect God.flip
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I just love when highly ignorant morons who have never touched a bible in their lives come on and try to act like they got it ALL figured out. Not only that, but they do it so damned arrogantly that one has to just stop and laugh out loud at them. I just love arrogant, know it all fails.

In answer, God DID create man perfect. As a matter of fact He created a perfect world (and one that He is helping us head back towards.) I am not going to sit here and do your work for you, you read the Bible and figure it out. It is not my task or within my inclination to sit here and throw verses at you like some bible thumper. In the end, we are ALL responsible for our actions and inactions when we stand before God. You won't have the option of pointing to me or anyone else and say: "well, he didn't explain it to me." When all you have to do is pick up the book and read the first two pages or so to answer your own question...

Have a good life... while it lasts.
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because GOD did not create "man"..
God created the "universe" .... others... created man!

read and study ancient texts that have been secreted on this planet for our knowledge!bumpclappa
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Okay explain this to me.

If God is perfect then everything he creates should be perfect. Earth, the universe, the animals on earth and mankind.

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Humans are perfect. It the fear, or control by other humans that makes us otherwise. If we were to act like animals (listen to our instincts), we would see how perfect we really are. God is inside of us, not in some book or church.
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