If God is perfect why did he create something imperfect like man. | |
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Butt Ugly Toad User ID: 1235357 United States 09/16/2011 04:08 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | fixed it for ya. :) Understand that WE ARE ALL THERE IS - we have to make this homeworld work to everyone's advantage. :) LOL WE are kNot all there is, WE is all there is! Ribbit "To pee or not to pee, that is the question!" - Old Toad Proverb “Unbeknownst to most, Kindness is not a STD, so pass it on!” – Old Toad Proverb Old Toad Proverbs: Thread: Old Toad Proverbs |
Butt Ugly Toad User ID: 1235357 United States 09/16/2011 04:10 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | There is kNOw sPoon! There is kNOw free will! Ribbit "To pee or not to pee, that is the question!" - Old Toad Proverb “Unbeknownst to most, Kindness is not a STD, so pass it on!” – Old Toad Proverb Old Toad Proverbs: Thread: Old Toad Proverbs |
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ungodlike productions (OP) User ID: 1551466 United States 09/16/2011 04:16 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Even Julia Child and Gordon Ramsay have burnt the fuck out of stuff they have cooked, and they rank among the best cooks in existence. Shit happens. The end. Quoting: shame_spiral The End my ass. You make no point and prove nothing. Come up with something better than cooks burning their dishes. So now that explains that God is perfect and we are imperfect? Really? dumbass |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1539112 United States 09/16/2011 04:17 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Even Julia Child and Gordon Ramsay have burnt the fuck out of stuff they have cooked, and they rank among the best cooks in existence. Shit happens. The end. Quoting: shame_spiral The End my ass. You make no point and prove nothing. Come up with something better than cooks burning their dishes. So now that explains that God is perfect and we are imperfect? Really? dumbass I'm saying that the aptitude of the creator has little to do with the end result. Get it? |
ungodlike productions (OP) User ID: 1551466 United States 09/16/2011 04:20 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Even Julia Child and Gordon Ramsay have burnt the fuck out of stuff they have cooked, and they rank among the best cooks in existence. Shit happens. The end. Quoting: shame_spiral The End my ass. You make no point and prove nothing. Come up with something better than cooks burning their dishes. So now that explains that God is perfect and we are imperfect? Really? dumbass I'm saying that the aptitude of the creator has little to do with the end result. Get it? So either a perfect God purposely created imperfect man or he simply fucked up. But that wouldn't be possible if God were indeed perfect? See the problem here? So God is either imperfect which defeats the existence of God or made us fucked up on purpose which doesn't seem like something a perfect God would want to do. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1539112 United States 09/16/2011 04:22 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Even Julia Child and Gordon Ramsay have burnt the fuck out of stuff they have cooked, and they rank among the best cooks in existence. Shit happens. The end. Quoting: shame_spiral The End my ass. You make no point and prove nothing. Come up with something better than cooks burning their dishes. So now that explains that God is perfect and we are imperfect? Really? dumbass I'm saying that the aptitude of the creator has little to do with the end result. Get it? So either a perfect God purposely created imperfect man or he simply fucked up. But that wouldn't be possible if God were indeed perfect? See the problem here? So God is either imperfect which defeats the existence of God or made us fucked up on purpose which doesn't seem like something a perfect God would want to do. I don't understand where you get the notion that a creator is infallible. Seems like taking a lot on blind faith and eliminating the influence of entropy and chaos. |
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Butt Ugly Toad User ID: 1235357 United States 09/16/2011 04:25 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Even Julia Child and Gordon Ramsay have burnt the fuck out of stuff they have cooked, and they rank among the best cooks in existence. Shit happens. The end. Quoting: shame_spiral The End my ass. You make no point and prove nothing. Come up with something better than cooks burning their dishes. So now that explains that God is perfect and we are imperfect? Really? dumbass I'm saying that the aptitude of the creator has little to do with the end result. Get it? So either a perfect God purposely created imperfect man or he simply fucked up. But that wouldn't be possible if God were indeed perfect? See the problem here? So God is either imperfect which defeats the existence of God made us fucked up on purpose which doesn't seem like something a perfect God would want to do. Bingo! Ribbit "To pee or not to pee, that is the question!" - Old Toad Proverb “Unbeknownst to most, Kindness is not a STD, so pass it on!” – Old Toad Proverb Old Toad Proverbs: Thread: Old Toad Proverbs |
ungodlike productions (OP) User ID: 1551466 United States 09/16/2011 04:26 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Someone or something made us whether it be God or not something also made that thing or made God. Whatever being or energy that is the ultimate creator of all things could not have been imperfect or could it? Shit I am now confusing my own thoughts? |
Butt Ugly Toad User ID: 1235357 United States 09/16/2011 04:28 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: ungodlike productions 1551466 The End my ass. You make no point and prove nothing. Come up with something better than cooks burning their dishes. So now that explains that God is perfect and we are imperfect? Really? dumbass I'm saying that the aptitude of the creator has little to do with the end result. Get it? So either a perfect God purposely created imperfect man or he simply fucked up. But that wouldn't be possible if God were indeed perfect? See the problem here? So God is either imperfect which defeats the existence of God or made us fucked up on purpose which doesn't seem like something a perfect God would want to do. I don't understand where you get the notion that a creator is infallible. Seems like taking a lot on blind faith and eliminating the influence of entropy and chaos. There is nO sPoon! There is nO cHaos! You are missinformed! Go look at the Hubble pics to see the Perfect Order of the Universe, since it is NOT a closed system, but rather, an OPEN system. Ribbit "To pee or not to pee, that is the question!" - Old Toad Proverb “Unbeknownst to most, Kindness is not a STD, so pass it on!” – Old Toad Proverb Old Toad Proverbs: Thread: Old Toad Proverbs |
Butt Ugly Toad User ID: 1235357 United States 09/16/2011 04:29 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Look the fact that you and I are both here right now on this planet means we came from somewhere or something. Quoting: ungodlike productions 1551466 Someone or something made us whether it be God or not something also made that thing or made God. Whatever being or energy that is the ultimate creator of all things could not have been imperfect or could it? Shit I am now confusing my own thoughts? You are confused because EVERYTHING is Perfect! Ribbit "To pee or not to pee, that is the question!" - Old Toad Proverb “Unbeknownst to most, Kindness is not a STD, so pass it on!” – Old Toad Proverb Old Toad Proverbs: Thread: Old Toad Proverbs |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1539112 United States 09/16/2011 04:33 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Look the fact that you and I are both here right now on this planet means we came from somewhere or something. Quoting: ungodlike productions 1551466 Someone or something made us whether it be God or not something also made that thing or made God. Whatever being or energy that is the ultimate creator of all things could not have been imperfect or could it? Shit I am now confusing my own thoughts? I think it depends on what you interpret as perfection. I believe that if we were created by something, then it sees us as its creation and therefore loves us unconditionally. That doesn't mean that we will get along, not kill one another, or accept anything that is being told us. I like to think of it like a family, with God as the mother, and we are the children. Most siblings have love and regard for one another and also rivalry. I also know from my own experience as a mother that there is no action my child could take that would ever make me stop loving her. The mysteries are what they are. These questions have been around for as long as we've been able to form the words to ask them. |
ungodlike productions (OP) User ID: 1551466 United States 09/16/2011 04:59 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Look the fact that you and I are both here right now on this planet means we came from somewhere or something. Quoting: ungodlike productions 1551466 Someone or something made us whether it be God or not something also made that thing or made God. Whatever being or energy that is the ultimate creator of all things could not have been imperfect or could it? Shit I am now confusing my own thoughts? I think it depends on what you interpret as perfection. I believe that if we were created by something, then it sees us as its creation and therefore loves us unconditionally. That doesn't mean that we will get along, not kill one another, or accept anything that is being told us. I like to think of it like a family, with God as the mother, and we are the children. Most siblings have love and regard for one another and also rivalry. I also know from my own experience as a mother that there is no action my child could take that would ever make me stop loving her. The mysteries are what they are. These questions have been around for as long as we've been able to form the words to ask them. Perfection needs no interpretation. It is or it isn't. Interpretation only tries make up for not knowing the real answer. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1552355 Spain 09/16/2011 05:00 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Look the fact that you and I are both here right now on this planet means we came from somewhere or something. Quoting: ungodlike productions 1551466 Someone or something made us whether it be God or not something also made that thing or made God. Whatever being or energy that is the ultimate creator of all things could not have been imperfect or could it? Shit I am now confusing my own thoughts? You are confused because EVERYTHING is Perfect! Ribbit --Little Toad, why are you all green and and slimy? --Oh, nothing. I am just a ailing a bit, but normally I am white and fluffy. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1218513 United Kingdom 09/16/2011 05:02 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Okay explain this to me. Quoting: Ungodlike productions 1551466 If God is perfect then everything he creates should be perfect. Earth, the universe, the animals on earth and mankind. But look what fucked up beings we are on this planet. We are murderers, destroyers of nature and this planet. How could a perfect God create this. And more importantly why? Only logical answer is a perfect God didn't create us. We created us. Our imperfect selves. There is no perfect God. Oh shut up. You get given FREE WILL fuck that up, and then moan about God not being perfect. |
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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 1551466 United States 09/16/2011 05:04 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Okay explain this to me. Quoting: Ungodlike productions 1551466 If God is perfect then everything he creates should be perfect. Earth, the universe, the animals on earth and mankind. But look what fucked up beings we are on this planet. We are murderers, destroyers of nature and this planet. How could a perfect God create this. And more importantly why? Only logical answer is a perfect God didn't create us. We created us. Our imperfect selves. There is no perfect God. Oh shut up. You get given FREE WILL fuck that up, and then moan about God not being perfect. But who really fucked up? The creator or the created? And who's free will was that? |
EazyD User ID: 1326518 United States 09/16/2011 05:07 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So we could learn. And He has given us thousands of years to learn. But since most of us are trapped in a world of materialism, we are perpetuating our imperfection. When we learn that if we love, respect, and cherish others more than ourselves, the world would be perfect. Alas, I doubt that will ever happen until God intervenes. In this game the lesson's in your eyes to see, though things change, the future's still inside of me. We must remember that tomorrow comes after the dark, so you will always be in my heart, with unconditional Love. |
ungodlike productions (OP) User ID: 1551466 United States 09/16/2011 05:10 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So we could learn. And He has given us thousands of years to learn. But since most of us are trapped in a world of materialism, we are perpetuating our imperfection. When we learn that if we love, respect, and cherish others more than ourselves, the world would be perfect. Alas, I doubt that will ever happen until God intervenes. Quoting: EazyD That was beautiful! |
EazyD User ID: 1326518 United States 09/16/2011 05:19 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So we could learn. And He has given us thousands of years to learn. But since most of us are trapped in a world of materialism, we are perpetuating our imperfection. When we learn that if we love, respect, and cherish others more than ourselves, the world would be perfect. Alas, I doubt that will ever happen until God intervenes. Quoting: EazyD That was beautiful! Thank you. I hope you got the answer to your question somewhere in this thread, OP. Or the path to your answer...may you be blessed! In this game the lesson's in your eyes to see, though things change, the future's still inside of me. We must remember that tomorrow comes after the dark, so you will always be in my heart, with unconditional Love. |
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ungodlike productions (OP) User ID: 1551466 United States 09/16/2011 05:24 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So we could learn. And He has given us thousands of years to learn. But since most of us are trapped in a world of materialism, we are perpetuating our imperfection. When we learn that if we love, respect, and cherish others more than ourselves, the world would be perfect. Alas, I doubt that will ever happen until God intervenes. Quoting: EazyD That was beautiful! Thank you. I hope you got the answer to your question somewhere in this thread, OP. Or the path to your answer...may you be blessed! Thank you. But I am still a lost little lamb on that matter. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1218513 United Kingdom 09/16/2011 05:25 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | YOU fucked up because even now you can't take control of your own WILL and take responsibility of your OWN thoughts and actions. So you seek a way to blame God even though there's no God here controlling your life.. Do you know what FREE WILL is. It means no one CONTROLS YOU. Not even GOD. Along with this FREE WILL we were given a simple commandant. Love your neighbour as you would have them love you. YOU know what people seek to do with their FREE WILL? Dominate and control other people, to rule over them, using practically everything they can to make that possible. They seek to make others bend to their own WILL. That's how you and others respect FREE WILL. Remember that story about a war in Heaven? Well that what that was about. Us seeking to dominate in Heaven, so we got cast out to Earth. And now here in the flesh you have the nerve to complain about things being imperfect. Welcome to a lesson learned the hard way. The Earth sucks because we are ALL of the same desire, meaning we desire to rule and control each other, and hence this is the result of that desire. This Earth as it is now. Look around you, and throughout history. This is what happens when you use your FREE WILL to abuse other's FREE WILL. As it stands now, Human WILL is restricted, thankfully. But still people seek to abuse others anyway. Yet you blame God for your troubles. Heck it wasn't even God who cast us out. It's was the other Angels in Heaven we warred against. Breaking God's law. God clearly could of prevented and stopped the war. But what would be the point of giving us FREE WILL? The other Angels being more understanding than us, and who clearly demonstrated the commandment love thy neighbour in their actions, then set up this universe, this Earth specifically for our redemption, to make us perfect again via Earthly incarnations and the many experiences they bring. And yes suffering is a large part of that. Be thankful you don't remember. With that said, it is the spirit, and it WILL and intent that is important. That is what needs correcting. Your current thoughts, beliefs and feelings are merely part of the program, no matter how backwards and corrupt they may be at this time. Is the Air to blame because someone who breaths it killed someone. That's how much God is to blame for your thoughts and actions. Meaning not at all. |
EazyD User ID: 1326518 United States 09/16/2011 05:30 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | YOU fucked up because even now you can't take control of your own WILL and take responsibility of your OWN thoughts and actions. So you seek a way to blame God even though there's no God here controlling your life.. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1551466}Do you know what FREE WILL is. It means no one CONTROLS YOU. Not even GOD. Along with this FREE WILL we were given a simple commandant. Love your neighbour as you would have them love you. YOU know what people seek to do with their FREE WILL? Dominate and control other people, to rule over them, using practically everything they can to make that possible. They seek to make others bend to their own WILL. That's how you and others respect FREE WILL. Remember that story about a war in Heaven? Well that what that was about. Us seeking to dominate in Heaven, so we got cast out to Earth. And now here in the flesh you have the nerve to complain about things being imperfect. Welcome to a lesson learned the hard way. The Earth sucks because we are ALL of the same desire, meaning we desire to rule and control each other, and hence this is the result of that desire. This Earth as it is now. Look around you, and throughout history. This is what happens when you use your FREE WILL to abuse other's FREE WILL. As it stands now, Human WILL is restricted, thankfully. But still people seek to abuse others anyway. Yet you blame God for your troubles. Heck it wasn't even God who cast us out. It's was the other Angels in Heaven we warred against. Breaking God's law. God clearly could of prevented and stopped the war. But what would be the point of giving us FREE WILL? The other Angels being more understanding than us, and who clearly demonstrated the commandment love thy neighbour in their actions, then set up this universe, this Earth specifically for our redemption, to make us perfect again via Earthly incarnations and the many experiences they bring. And yes suffering is a large part of that. Be thankful you don't remember. With that said, it is the spirit, and it WILL and intent that is important. That is what needs correcting. Your current thoughts, beliefs and feelings are merely part of the program, no matter how backwards and corrupt they may be at this time. Is the Air to blame because someone who breaths it killed someone. That's how much God is to blame for your thoughts and actions. Meaning not at all. Wow.... In this game the lesson's in your eyes to see, though things change, the future's still inside of me. We must remember that tomorrow comes after the dark, so you will always be in my heart, with unconditional Love. |