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Soccer VS. American Football. The ultimate breakdown.

 
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Soccer VS. American Football. The ultimate breakdown.
So football and soccer seasons are just beginning all around the world. And the haters of each are waking from their summer slumber to trash what they dont like. So I would like to clear the air about the arguments I hear of each and hopefully, allow the 2 different breeds of football fans to respect each other's sport.

First let me say that I love both football and soccer, have played both, still play soccer and am a Fantasy Football nut.
With that said, lets begin.

Game time/Injury time.
One of the biggest complaints I hear from the soccer haters is that the games are too long and injury time is stupid. So lets compare both games. Soccer is a 90 minute game split into 2 45 minute halves w no time outs. Football is played in 4 15 minute quarters. Since there are no time outs and the clock never stops in soccer, you can estimate when the game will be over to within about 10 minutes. Injury time is kept to ensure that the each half has a full 45 minutes of actual game time. So when there is an injury, foul, time wasted on free kicks and substitutions, someone keeps track of the time the time that is taken up by all of that and adds it at the end of each half.
In football, an hour long game routinely takes at least 3 hours to play. with 3 timeouts outs per team per half and tv timeouts for commercial breaks a 15 minute quarter lasts close to half an hour. Even more, if you add up just the time that goes by once the ball is snapped and when the play is whistled dead, the average NFL game has only about 12-13 minutes of actual game time.

"World Champions"
Once a year, the NFL crowns a world champion in the SuperBowl. Every 4 years a world champion is crowned in soccer during the World Cup. What makes more sense, a team who plays the world and is named world champions or a team that plays teams from 1 country?

Origins
Soccer has been played in 1 form or another for over 2,000 years in China whos military would kick a ball around for exercise. Fast forward to midevil Europe when behaedings were the norm. Sometimes the head would not land in the basket and people would kick the head around until they got it back in the basket.
Football is basically just rugby that has been gradually changed over the years. The forward pass isnt even 100 years old. Rules in football change almost every year where as rules in soccer have barely changed in over 100 years.

Too many coaches
Soccer is played and controlled by the 11 players on the field. Coaches and managers will change line ups and tactics during the game, but the game itself is controlled by the players.
Football is controlled by head coaches, assistant coaches, linebacker coaches, line coaches, special teams coaches, numerous Nascar style spotters up in the booths and wireless headsets. We are always told how smart Brady and Manning are but the guys wear cheat sheets on their wrists.

Why soccer will NEVER be a top sport in the U.S.
We are always told that soccer is the world's most popular game and the fastest growing sport in the states. But it will never be a top sport here for several reasons. For one, its not our sport. As Americans, we take pride in what is ours. Basketball, Baseball and Football are all our sports that we usually dominate on the world stage. Soccer for a very long time was seen as a game that European and South American immigrants played that we laughed at. Another reason is that soccer just isnt a made for tv and sponsor game. With no timeouts, sponsors wont pay up and tv would rather play a sport that will get them the most cash.
Last, is that we are a highlight loving, ESPN top 10 craving nation. We want to see dunks, home runs, diving catches and fights, even if the teams lost.

So what do you think?
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it's called football, stop with your moran soccer term already!
in your "football" you don't even really use your foot.
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John Cleese rants - Soccer vs Football

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it's called football, stop with your moran soccer term already!
in your "football" you don't even really use your foot.
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Someone sounds butthurt this morning.
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John Cleese rants - Soccer vs Football


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^this
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it's called football, stop with your moran soccer term already!
in your "football" you don't even really use your foot.
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Ok, its called moron, not moran. And Soccer is what we call it here. Soccer comes from Association Football and goes back to the 1800's. Soccer came from association, and is used by some older guys in other countries. I agree that American Football should be called something like, maybe hand egg, but thats not how it is.
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Great thread for someone like me.. as well I grew up playing both sports and still follow both sports with a passion.

One of the things I love about European "football" is the setup of the leagues and how top teams from the league qualify for tournaments. The Champions League is one of the best sporting spectacles in the world. I can never get enough of it.
Also, I love following each league to see who gets relegated, who gets promoted, etc.

For those who do not know - in European "football" they don't need to put up with the likes of teams who don't invest in their squad. More than likely those teams will be relegated to the lower league and the top team(s) from the lower league will get promoted and get their shot at the league. I personally find it fascinating.

The top teams in each top division around Europe also qualify for major tournaments where there is a boatload of cash prize money awarded.
Last year Manchester United took in over 50 million dollars JUST from the Champions League tournament.

Even the lowest team in the tournament won over 7 million dollars.

It just makes the sport that much more attractive to follow for me.

Anywho... just my 2 cents.
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John Cleese rants - Soccer vs Football


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Brilliant. Pretty much sums it all up.
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I completely agree with Mr. Cleese in the video above, but I still like both. :)
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lol handbal. bit off subject but have you noticed all us sports stars are black and all the racists support teams with blacks in????
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It's called Football and American Football.

Football is a worldwide sport, American football is only big in America. So good English is to call it American football on the internet.

Football can be called Soccer but American Football should be called American Football never just Football. Or you's should come up for a second short name for it.

Australian rules football = Aussie Rules

Also I think American Football is OK but Football is better. Fast pace, more simple, less breaks and playing the game each person is a lot more involved.

I don't understand how Americans can watch so many adverts.
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American football? enjoy your padding lolwut?
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It's called Football and American Football.

Football is a worldwide sport, American football is only big in America. So good English is to call it American football on the internet.

Football can be called Soccer but American Football should be called American Football never just Football. Or you's should come up for a second short name for it.

Australian rules football = Aussie Rules

Also I think American Football is OK but Football is better. Fast pace, more simple, less breaks and playing the game each person is a lot more involved.

I don't understand how Americans can watch so many adverts.
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We Americans love NFL Football and you Brits love Football (soccer). End of discussion. If people get so uptight about what sport is better then I suggest don't watch either.
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I don't understand how Americans can watch so many adverts.


We are condition to watch adverts. Gives me time to grab a beer or go take a leek.
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lol handbal. bit off subject but have you noticed all us sports stars are black and all the racists support teams with blacks in????
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Not all US stars are black. Its all related to slavery if you want to get down to it. The biggest, strongest males were forced to breed w the biggest strongest females to make the biggest strongest next generation. Thats why there are freakishly huge athletes. Its a touchy subject, but it is the truth. And to say all racists support teams with blacks isnt true. A true racist would only support bowling or golf.
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John Cleese rants - Soccer vs Football


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applause2
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Cute, but wrong. A quarterback has to read the defensive line and also the wide receivers. They also need to know how and where to run there routes. Same with playing defense. Sorry but there is a lot of thinking during a football game. His assumption on amercian football is so wrong.
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This is just how americans are.

Take the sport that has been played for 2000years around the world.A number one sport in MANY nations.The Nations cups is one of the most interesting competitions with the longest history to them, making real rivarly possible.

Then we have maddon, which is closer to rugby but whatever, it is ideal for television and marketing. A true american sport, made up just a hundred years ago, they can call their own.
No one in the world plays it other then them. No one cares.
It's just typical american self-centered bullshit to call it Football.
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John Cleese rants - Soccer vs Football


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Cute, but wrong. A quarterback has to read the defensive line and also the wide receivers. They also need to know how and where to run there routes. Same with playing defense. Sorry but there is a lot of thinking during a football game. His assumption on amercian football is so wrong.
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It may be wrong, but its still somewhat close to right. As far as WRs running routes, thats not very hard. If you think running in a predetermined path is something hard, well, youre wrong. D line men have 1 purpose, get to the quarter back and plug the holes. Now, the QB position, IMO, is one of the toughest positions in all of sports. I think the point of the video was that everything in football is predetermined. Teams to walk throughs and know what plays they will run in what order, who rns where, who blocks and so on. Soccer is more of an open, free form sport where players can play with little influence from coaches.
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don't see the point of comparing

they're two totally different games

people who argue about which one is best need to :jekit: a bit more, i think.
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don't see the point of comparing

they're two totally different games

people who argue about which one is best need to jerkit a bit more, i think.
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jekit? wtf's a jekit? lol
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I love your post! It helped me with meh homework! And you guys above near the beginning stop with the Hate!
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Something homo about rooting for a bunch of little runt metrosexuals running around futilely kicking the ball abouts, and sporadically scoring for an exciting 1-1 tie.
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I don't care for either one. However, if you enjoy it and people like it and it doesn't infringe on anyone's rights..then play on!!!!
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Soccer IS football and American football is gay-rubgy.
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That is all.

Football rules. YNWA
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applause

and its true - american football is like rugby for girls - except actual girls do actually play actual rugby. actually

baseball is rounders (played by girls) and basketball is netball (played by girls)


yes, im a girl


oh and 'world' series? not quite the world cup, is it?
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forreal i think that futbol is the dominate sport in anything because other sports say world champs when in real life they mean national champs soccer teams are actual world champs thanks to the WORLD CUP

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