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Judethz
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9teen It looks like full scale war in the very near future...

DEBKAfile Special Report September 16, 2011, 8:05 PM (GMT+02:00)

Palestinian leader Mahmoud Abbas announced Friday, Sept. 16, in Ramallah that he would ask the UN Security Council next week for recognition of Palestinian statehood. Once they have a state and a flag and recognition by two-thirds of the world's nations, the Palestinians would leave all other issues open for negotiation with Israel, he said.
While citing the 1967 borders for a future Palestinian state in reference to his UN application,
Abbas stressed that Israel's "occupation" will not will not end the next day and much more remains to be done because the 1967 lines do not define the true borders - any more than the roadblocks and the settlements. The real Palestinian borders were laid down in 1947 down by the UN. All other areas [meaning large parts of the state of Israel] are "occupied territory" which the Palestinians intend to claim.

The Palestinian leader sought to imply that the 126 governments which have recognized the Palestinian right to a state had accepted this interpretation.

His other points:..........

For more info click on the link. (Edited to less than 50%)... [link to debka.com]

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wasnt it only the other day they gave up on this??
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hmmmm
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interesting.. but hei.. its debka :P
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wasnt it only the other day they gave up on this??
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7491t9 It's been on again, off again. on again for the last few weeks now. But the public announcement just an hour or so ago means that the die is cast.

Personally this is what I expected he would do. The reason being than Hamas and Hizballah would be calling him a traitor to the Arab cause, "Uncle Sam's Lapdog," and what have you, and his position would quickly become untenable. My guess is that they will be on their best behaviour until after the UN vote, then.....
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Fuck that shit.

The "Palestinians" rejected the deal back in 1947.
Too late now, especially after the way the islamofascists have been attacking Israel and losing ground.
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wasnt it only the other day they gave up on this??
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Yeah, according to Debka. chuckle
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then it goes to the "Security Council"...and US will veto the vote...

Then the Arabs will go insane and expel ALL US ambassadors from the middle east.
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wasnt it only the other day they gave up on this??
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Yeah, according to Debka.
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cowgal NO. There was a big push by Hillery Twillery and the State Dept, along with Saudi Arabia, Egypt, etc to get him to water the whole thing down. So things have been a bit up in the air this last week or so.

I don't see what your picking on Debkafile about this matter for. They are a news organization and it's their job to cover this kind of stuff.
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Fuck that shit.

The "Palestinians" rejected the deal back in 1947.
Too late now, especially after the way the islamofascists have been attacking Israel and losing ground.
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why too late ?:o we are still alive.. so.. time to do something about it :P
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Fuck that shit.

The "Palestinians" rejected the deal back in 1947.
Too late now, especially after the way the islamofascists have been attacking Israel and losing ground.
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why too late ?:o we are still alive.. so.. time to do something about it :P
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It's also too late for the US to give the southwest back to Mexico or Manhattan back to the Indians.
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then it goes to the "Security Council"...and US will veto the vote...

Then the Arabs will go insane and expel ALL US ambassadors from the middle east.
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blinker Lets just say that I'm sure glad I haven't booked a Nile Cruse this year.
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Obviously:

Israel is not going to just move out because the UN tells them to.

Israel will continue to fight with the Palestinians whether they have a "state" or not. It's not like anything changes on the ground if the heavily Muslim security council decides that Gaza & the West Bank are officially states. I can put a hamburger on a plate and call it prime rib if I want to.

This should expedite the final outcome because the war that always seems around the corner should finally erupt once and for all out of this, and that will produce the real "final solution".
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I wonder if this is the real reason why the Turks are sending warships.
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Fuck that shit.

The "Palestinians" rejected the deal back in 1947.
Too late now, especially after the way the islamofascists have been attacking Israel and losing ground.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1552868


why too late ?:o we are still alive.. so.. time to do something about it :P
 Quoting: Hei


It's also too late for the US to give the southwest back to Mexico or Manhattan back to the Indians.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1552868


eh...centuries passed..not in the pals case
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I wonder if this is the real reason why the Turks are sending warships.
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blumerl That ones more complicated, but it also involves oil exploration between Cyprus and Israel on the one hand, and Turkey on the other, in the Eastern Med.
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It's also too late for the US to give the southwest back to Mexico or Manhattan back to the Indians.
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mexgal I kinda get the feeling that some parts of the USA are in the process of reverting back to Mexico.
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9teen Bump for a new day.
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Hey I heard that the Caananites want some of their turf back too! They predate the invaders dont they? You know the Hejoos!
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bump
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Re: Abbas claims 1947 borders for Palestinian state, affirms bid to UN Security Council
then it goes to the "Security Council"...and US will veto the vote...

Then the Arabs will go insane and expel ALL US ambassadors from the middle east.
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us is hoping it'll be defeated w/o their veto:

U.S. laboring to avoid veto of Palestinian statehood bid at UN, sources say

The United States is working to gather enough United Nations Security Council members to resist a planned Palestinian statehood bid so as to avoid having to use its veto power, Israeli and U.S. sources said on Saturday

[link to www.haaretz.com]
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then it goes to the "Security Council"...and US will veto the vote...

Then the Arabs will go insane and expel ALL US ambassadors from the middle east.
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Don't believe the US will veto. I know, that's what the MSM is saying now but, things will look different next week.
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Israel should have never be created. It was a mistake. Time to fix it.
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Legal scenarios of Palestine’s UN statehood bid

very informative article

[link to www.nowlebanon.com]
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The United States is working to gather enough United Nations Security Council members to resist a planned Palestinian statehood bid so as to avoid having to use its veto power, Israeli and U.S. sources said on Saturday

 Quoting: Swinburnian


blinker Someone was saying that the whole thing will be dragged out until the eve of Rosh Hashanah for 'maximum impact' I guess that we shall just have to wait and see.
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Islamofacist make less sense than Israelinazi.
Israeli zionist settler nazi's ethnically cleansed Palistine in 1947.
Funny isn't it, claims of the ethnic cleansing committed on them ,... they then turn around and do it to another people, for a land they didn't even come from
Palestinians had nothing to do with the death camps you idiots.
Partition gave a minority population of Israeli Zionists 70% of the land. they were not even near 10% of the population.
In 1890 the jewish population was 30,000 ish, mostly centered on Jerusalem and there were 600,000 Arabs.
We should have given the Camp survivors Belin,... not some innocent peoples land with their own desire for a country.

Israel has never attempted peace. Ever.
Israeli's Zionist Settler Scum are now ethnic cleansing the Arabs in the south of Palestine from their land as well.
to many people know their history/mythology only from stupid bibletard church preacher's...idiot fools. Good Nazi's.
They also executed the Gaza aid activists, shooting them while holding them down in international waters. Zionist Nazi's.
capitalist,facist,nazi,communist,
socialist,militarist,religi​ous nutbars...family nuked,gassed,or robbed by all of them. history never lies but but men who write it do.
take the man away you have the truth...
...grandpa stole first MIG17 in 52..
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happysmile Hi .9999 Silver, you didn't take your meds today did you.
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Those Palestinians sure excel at wasting everybody's time.

yeahsure
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:happysmile: Hi .9999 Silver, you didn't take your meds today did you.
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fuk off tool
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The United States is working to gather enough United Nations Security Council members to resist a planned Palestinian statehood bid so as to avoid having to use its veto power, Israeli and U.S. sources said on Saturday

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:blinker: Someone was saying that the whole thing will be dragged out until the eve of Rosh Hashanah for 'maximum impact' I guess that we shall just have to wait and see.
 Quoting: Judethz


dragged out by who?
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TOTAL SHIT AND YOU KNOW IT.

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