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BRIEF User ID: 1551548 United States 09/16/2011 07:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Suggestion: don't be a pinko hall monitor and harass people with your camera...Maybe if Jr. had a girlfriend or played a sport he wouldn't have time to chase cops that, in this case, was simply talking to someone...if you fuck with and harass people, then you may get fucked up...bet Jr. wouldn't like it if a cop filmed him jacking off over a youtube video... Quoting: BRIEF He's not harassing anyone. The cop is harassing the citizen. From what I saw he was talking... From what I've seen on this forum, you will defend any police officer any time no matter how far they overstep, and always blame the victim for triggering their own fate. I don't care if you get paid to be here or not, either way you must spend at least 40 hours a week pursuing this twisted agenda, so if you are really doing it for your own personal reasons, you must be one sick, fucked up excuse for a human being. Every time I Seeing your avatar and tagline, I know I am about to be treated to the same brand of righteous pig headed sewage that always spews out of you from both ends. The only silver lining is getting to see how few people agree with you and how strongly people with souls react to your fallacious "personal responsibility trumps law" garbage. And no, sorry, you don't get any "you mad bro" props for getting a rise out of me, I just enjoy trashing mental crumbs like you for fun and practice on the side, and Don't even bother replying, since I won't bother coming back to check. I know exactly where to find you next time, playing your broken record... Check my karma next time before developing diarrhea of the keyboard... I never forgive and I never forget I am a licensed firearm holder. I will, under protection of law, use lethal force if attacked. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1309522 Canada 09/16/2011 07:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Quiet conversation is NOT a police investigation, the interruption of which this kid was illegally detained for. Quoting: Advaita Vedantist You lose. The kid wasn't illegally detained, he was detained, questioned and released. Pre-charge detention refers to the period of time that an individual can be held and questioned by police, prior to being charged with an offence. Not all countries have such a concept, and in those that do, the period for which a person may be detained without trial varies from jurisdiction to jurisdiction. From: [link to en.wikipedia.org] Legal or not the purpose of the arrest and detainment was a punishment, punishment for the act of approaching the officer with a camera and answering a question. Should he have that power? No. If you are really arguing that this officer was involved in such an important investigation, that any sort of disruption to his field of view constitutes criminal hinderance, and that it is up to his discretion to apply the legal detention procedures in such a case, then I would kindly request that you just shut the f*** up. We are sick of idiots and apologists, and you do not meet the minimum level of humanity to deserve my further attention either. Bye. |
BRIEF User ID: 1551548 United States 09/16/2011 07:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Quiet conversation is NOT a police investigation, the interruption of which this kid was illegally detained for. Quoting: Advaita Vedantist You lose. The kid wasn't illegally detained, he was detained, questioned and released. Pre-charge detention refers to the period of time that an individual can be held and questioned by police, prior to being charged with an offence. Not all countries have such a concept, and in those that do, the period for which a person may be detained without trial varies from jurisdiction to jurisdiction. From: [link to en.wikipedia.org] Legal or not the purpose of the arrest and detainment was a punishment, punishment for the act of approaching the officer with a camera and answering a question. Should he have that power? No. If you are really arguing that this officer was involved in such an important investigation, that any sort of disruption to his field of view constitutes criminal hinderance, and that it is up to his discretion to apply the legal detention procedures in such a case, then I would kindly request that you just shut the f*** up. We are sick of idiots and apologists, and you do not meet the minimum level of humanity to deserve my further attention either. Bye. Bye then, lawyer sucking dick wad. I never forgive and I never forget I am a licensed firearm holder. I will, under protection of law, use lethal force if attacked. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1165613 United States 09/16/2011 07:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Quiet conversation is NOT a police investigation, the interruption of which this kid was illegally detained for. Quoting: Advaita Vedantist You lose. The kid wasn't illegally detained, he was detained, questioned and released. Pre-charge detention refers to the period of time that an individual can be held and questioned by police, prior to being charged with an offence. Not all countries have such a concept, and in those that do, the period for which a person may be detained without trial varies from jurisdiction to jurisdiction. From: [link to en.wikipedia.org] Legal or not the purpose of the arrest and detainment was a punishment, punishment for the act of approaching the officer with a camera and answering a question. Should he have that power? No. If you are really arguing that this officer was involved in such an important investigation, that any sort of disruption to his field of view constitutes criminal hinderance, and that it is up to his discretion to apply the legal detention procedures in such a case, then I would kindly request that you just shut the f*** up. We are sick of idiots and apologists, and you do not meet the minimum level of humanity to deserve my further attention either. Bye. I didn't really want to get into a conversation about the cop being within his rights to detain the kid, or if the kid was in his right to film. I wasn't there and there are too many possibilities. For all we know the cop might have been talking to an undercover officer who's been workin for six months to arrest gang members who murder seventeen year old kids for being douch bags, or he could have been talking to his drug dealer tryin to score some weed. If the kid got tackled to the ground or tazed I could agree with you. Maybe the cop was just trying to teach the kid a lesson his parents were too busy playing with thier ipads to teach him. To have a little respect for your fellow man regardless of thier occupation, or simply don't be a douchbag. If parents would parent thier own children cops wouldn't have too. |
BRIEF User ID: 1551548 United States 09/16/2011 07:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Quiet conversation is NOT a police investigation, the interruption of which this kid was illegally detained for. Quoting: Advaita Vedantist You lose. The kid wasn't illegally detained, he was detained, questioned and released. Pre-charge detention refers to the period of time that an individual can be held and questioned by police, prior to being charged with an offence. Not all countries have such a concept, and in those that do, the period for which a person may be detained without trial varies from jurisdiction to jurisdiction. From: [link to en.wikipedia.org] Legal or not the purpose of the arrest and detainment was a punishment, punishment for the act of approaching the officer with a camera and answering a question. Should he have that power? No. If you are really arguing that this officer was involved in such an important investigation, that any sort of disruption to his field of view constitutes criminal hinderance, and that it is up to his discretion to apply the legal detention procedures in such a case, then I would kindly request that you just shut the f*** up. We are sick of idiots and apologists, and you do not meet the minimum level of humanity to deserve my further attention either. Bye. I didn't really want to get into a conversation about the cop being within his rights to detain the kid, or if the kid was in his right to film. I wasn't there and there are too many possibilities. For all we know the cop might have been talking to an undercover officer who's been workin for six months to arrest gang members who murder seventeen year old kids for being douch bags, or he could have been talking to his drug dealer tryin to score some weed. If the kid got tackled to the ground or tazed I could agree with you. Maybe the cop was just trying to teach the kid a lesson his parents were too busy playing with thier ipads to teach him. To have a little respect for your fellow man regardless of thier occupation, or simply don't be a douchbag. If parents would parent thier own children cops wouldn't have too. yup, but you realize that by saying that, the trolls will call you a cop sucker and a pig sucking shill now, right? LOL! I never forgive and I never forget I am a licensed firearm holder. I will, under protection of law, use lethal force if attacked. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1165613 United States 09/16/2011 07:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | yup, but you realize that by saying that, the trolls will call you a cop sucker and a pig sucking shill now, right? LOL! Quoting: BRIEF I support everyones right to not be fucked with or bullied. I don't care what thier job is. If the kid were talkin to his friends and a cop came outta nowhere and handcuffed him I would support the kid. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1419389 United States 09/16/2011 07:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Sweet Jesus. I wonder how brief would feel if that happened to one of his kids. Yeah, I know............."MY kids would never do that; they know better than to fuck with cops." The thing brief does not understand is, sometimes there have been incidences when the supposed "perp" was not doing ANYTHING and they were still fucked with. This is basically a case of "I'm willing to have others get the crap beaten out of them as long as I myself get to supposedly sleep safe at night and I don't have my property stolen. Sometimes people go too far, but that is the price we pay for stability. I'm not THOSE people. They're "trash". I'm not because I'm a law abiding citizen and those other people are not-----and even if they are, FUCK THEM. The society comes first." yes, indeed----that is what it is. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1165613 United States 09/16/2011 07:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Sweet Jesus. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1419389 I wonder how brief would feel if that happened to one of his kids. Yeah, I know............."MY kids would never do that; they know better than to fuck with cops." The thing brief does not understand is, sometimes there have been incidences when the supposed "perp" was not doing ANYTHING and they were still fucked with. This is basically a case of "I'm willing to have others get the crap beaten out of them as long as I myself get to supposedly sleep safe at night and I don't have my property stolen. Sometimes people go too far, but that is the price we pay for stability. I'm not THOSE people. They're "trash". I'm not because I'm a law abiding citizen and those other people are not-----and even if they are, FUCK THEM. The society comes first." yes, indeed----that is what it is. Ok go find that video, we can all be friends on that thread. That's not the case here so we disagree. |
BRIEF User ID: 1551548 United States 09/16/2011 07:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | yup, but you realize that by saying that, the trolls will call you a cop sucker and a pig sucking shill now, right? LOL! Quoting: BRIEF I support everyones right to not be fucked with or bullied. I don't care what thier job is. If the kid were talkin to his friends and a cop came outta nowhere and handcuffed him I would support the kid. Me too! I've yet to see that happen, although a lot of anti-cop youtube videos have been cleverly edited, or conveniently cut to show that... I never forgive and I never forget I am a licensed firearm holder. I will, under protection of law, use lethal force if attacked. |
qwerty123 User ID: 1522344 United States 09/16/2011 07:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Sweet Jesus. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1419389 I wonder how brief would feel if that happened to one of his kids. Yeah, I know............."MY kids would never do that; they know better than to fuck with cops." The thing brief does not understand is, sometimes there have been incidences when the supposed "perp" was not doing ANYTHING and they were still fucked with. This is basically a case of "I'm willing to have others get the crap beaten out of them as long as I myself get to supposedly sleep safe at night and I don't have my property stolen. Sometimes people go too far, but that is the price we pay for stability. I'm not THOSE people. They're "trash". I'm not because I'm a law abiding citizen and those other people are not-----and even if they are, FUCK THEM. The society comes first." yes, indeed----that is what it is. Ok go find that video, we can all be friends on that thread. That's not the case here so we disagree. I just watched that video. A civilian on a public street filmed a police officer. Not a crime. The civilian was subsequently handcuffed for no reason. End of story. |
BRIEF User ID: 1551548 United States 09/16/2011 07:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Sweet Jesus. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1419389 I wonder how brief would feel if that happened to one of his kids. Yeah, I know............."MY kids would never do that; they know better than to fuck with cops." The thing brief does not understand is, sometimes there have been incidences when the supposed "perp" was not doing ANYTHING and they were still fucked with. This is basically a case of "I'm willing to have others get the crap beaten out of them as long as I myself get to supposedly sleep safe at night and I don't have my property stolen. Sometimes people go too far, but that is the price we pay for stability. I'm not THOSE people. They're "trash". I'm not because I'm a law abiding citizen and those other people are not-----and even if they are, FUCK THEM. The society comes first." yes, indeed----that is what it is. Well, it's true that I didn't raise my kids to be pussy hall monitors...if my kids saw them do something wrong they'd break them in half...trust me, I taught them well... I never forgive and I never forget I am a licensed firearm holder. I will, under protection of law, use lethal force if attacked. |
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Advaita Vedantist User ID: 1255103 United States 09/16/2011 07:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Quiet conversation is NOT a police investigation, the interruption of which this kid was illegally detained for. Quoting: Advaita Vedantist You lose. The kid wasn't illegally detained, he was detained, questioned and released. Pre-charge detention refers to the period of time that an individual can be held and questioned by police, prior to being charged with an offence. Not all countries have such a concept, and in those that do, the period for which a person may be detained without trial varies from jurisdiction to jurisdiction. From: [link to en.wikipedia.org] You're ignoring the point: to be detained you need to be suspected of something (a crime, particularly). This kid was suspected of nothing else except pissing off the cop in question (not a crime). But you're right, actually; he wasn't detained. The cop literally said he's under arrest! I am like the space which permeates all objects, and is yet undefiled. I am of the nature of Absolute Consciousness. I can now cognize my Reality to be no other than That. Jnana Vashistha |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1419389 United States 09/16/2011 07:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Sweet Jesus. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1419389 I wonder how brief would feel if that happened to one of his kids. Yeah, I know............."MY kids would never do that; they know better than to fuck with cops." The thing brief does not understand is, sometimes there have been incidences when the supposed "perp" was not doing ANYTHING and they were still fucked with. This is basically a case of "I'm willing to have others get the crap beaten out of them as long as I myself get to supposedly sleep safe at night and I don't have my property stolen. Sometimes people go too far, but that is the price we pay for stability. I'm not THOSE people. They're "trash". I'm not because I'm a law abiding citizen and those other people are not-----and even if they are, FUCK THEM. The society comes first." yes, indeed----that is what it is. Ok go find that video, we can all be friends on that thread. That's not the case here so we disagree. I just watched that video. A civilian on a public street filmed a police officer. Not a crime. The civilian was subsequently handcuffed for no reason. End of story. |
BRIEF User ID: 1551548 United States 09/16/2011 07:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Quiet conversation is NOT a police investigation, the interruption of which this kid was illegally detained for. Quoting: Advaita Vedantist You lose. The kid wasn't illegally detained, he was detained, questioned and released. Pre-charge detention refers to the period of time that an individual can be held and questioned by police, prior to being charged with an offence. Not all countries have such a concept, and in those that do, the period for which a person may be detained without trial varies from jurisdiction to jurisdiction. From: [link to en.wikipedia.org] You're ignoring the point: to be detained you need to be suspected of something (a crime, particularly). This kid was suspected of nothing else except pissing off the cop in question (not a crime). But you're right, actually; he wasn't detained. The cop literally said he's under arrest! ...for obstructing an investigation, or are you special? I never forgive and I never forget I am a licensed firearm holder. I will, under protection of law, use lethal force if attacked. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1419389 United States 09/16/2011 07:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Sweet Jesus. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1419389 I wonder how brief would feel if that happened to one of his kids. Yeah, I know............."MY kids would never do that; they know better than to fuck with cops." The thing brief does not understand is, sometimes there have been incidences when the supposed "perp" was not doing ANYTHING and they were still fucked with. This is basically a case of "I'm willing to have others get the crap beaten out of them as long as I myself get to supposedly sleep safe at night and I don't have my property stolen. Sometimes people go too far, but that is the price we pay for stability. I'm not THOSE people. They're "trash". I'm not because I'm a law abiding citizen and those other people are not-----and even if they are, FUCK THEM. The society comes first." yes, indeed----that is what it is. Well, it's true that I didn't raise my kids to be pussy hall monitors...if my kids saw them do something wrong they'd break them in half...trust me, I taught them well... Are you talking about beating up the police??? Please enlighten this "dumbass." |
Advaita Vedantist User ID: 1255103 United States 09/16/2011 07:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Conversation can be investigation...how do you investigate without uttering a word? Like Carl Marx your hero, who spent his life in a library? Quoting: BRIEF Even if it was an investigation, so? Please explain how this kid's actions were obstructing the conversation (investigation)? Vibrations of air (i.e. words from a 17 year old asking a question in the public) can be ignored. Clearly it wasn't too serious of an investigation for the guy to go waste his time on a 17-year old with a camera just to be suspended and put back on officer training. Last Edited by Advaita Vedantist on 09/16/2011 07:52 PM I am like the space which permeates all objects, and is yet undefiled. I am of the nature of Absolute Consciousness. I can now cognize my Reality to be no other than That. Jnana Vashistha |
Advaita Vedantist User ID: 1255103 United States 09/16/2011 07:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Quiet conversation is NOT a police investigation, the interruption of which this kid was illegally detained for. Quoting: Advaita Vedantist You lose. The kid wasn't illegally detained, he was detained, questioned and released. Pre-charge detention refers to the period of time that an individual can be held and questioned by police, prior to being charged with an offence. Not all countries have such a concept, and in those that do, the period for which a person may be detained without trial varies from jurisdiction to jurisdiction. From: [link to en.wikipedia.org] You're ignoring the point: to be detained you need to be suspected of something (a crime, particularly). This kid was suspected of nothing else except pissing off the cop in question (not a crime). But you're right, actually; he wasn't detained. The cop literally said he's under arrest! ...for obstructing an investigation, or are you special? The kid didn't obstruct an investigation. Even the officer's own police department agree with me. Or are you retarded? I am like the space which permeates all objects, and is yet undefiled. I am of the nature of Absolute Consciousness. I can now cognize my Reality to be no other than That. Jnana Vashistha |
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Buford2 User ID: 1447484 United States 09/16/2011 08:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It is bad the boy got arrested but it was a very valuable lesson in life. Now he will know that he is on one side of the fence and the Gov is on the other side. The Gov loves to punish the people. The young guy will realize this and avoid them like herpes. I am still surprised people mention the Constitution? It was a piece of paper that no longer exist in our age. People think that it is God's law and everyone must obey it. Didnt work for the Bible and sure isnt going to work for the Gov. They make the laws and can do whatever they choose. The government wrote it for that time. The Gov keeps everyone dumbed down on pills, propaganda and chemicals while we work like dogs just to survive on a planet we were born on. The Gov does what they want. People see what is happening although some have to find out the hard way by going toe to toe with the Gov. Free your mind of their BS lies and walk in peace. |
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BRIEF User ID: 1551548 United States 09/16/2011 08:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Conversation can be investigation...how do you investigate without uttering a word? Like Carl Marx your hero, who spent his life in a library? Quoting: BRIEF Even if it was an investigation, so? Please explain how this kid's actions were obstructing the conversation (investigation)? Vibrations of air (i.e. words from a 17 year old asking a question in the public) can be ignored. Clearly it wasn't too serious of an investigation for the guy to go waste his time on a 17-year old with a camera just to be suspended and put back on officer training. I never forgive and I never forget I am a licensed firearm holder. I will, under protection of law, use lethal force if attacked. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1243346 United States 09/16/2011 09:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You can use constitutional law to completely devastate these crooked cops. Use article 3 federal courts. You can not act unless your acted upon. You can sue them personally and ask for damages or sue them as a state officer and request an injunction. Your pick. Don't use a lawyer, they will loose your case. If you can obtain your objective without going to court, do it! Don't name the state, they are immune. Which makes sense though if you think about it. Unconstitutional acts can only be done by an individual, the state, by law, must act within the constitution. |
BRIEF User ID: 1551548 United States 09/16/2011 09:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You can use constitutional law to completely devastate these crooked cops. Use article 3 federal courts. You can not act unless your acted upon. You can sue them personally and ask for damages or sue them as a state officer and request an injunction. Your pick. Don't use a lawyer, they will loose your case. If you can obtain your objective without going to court, do it! Don't name the state, they are immune. Which makes sense though if you think about it. Unconstitutional acts can only be done by an individual, the state, by law, must act within the constitution. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1243346 You, are the kind of lawyer pricks that find loopholes and get idiots millions of dollars for tripping over their own feet on someone's property...fuck your suing and law bullshit. Just act like responsible people and none of this is necessary. I never forgive and I never forget I am a licensed firearm holder. I will, under protection of law, use lethal force if attacked. |
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BRIEF User ID: 1551548 United States 09/16/2011 09:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Wow... that as an informed young man. :) Is good too see that a there is still brave people in America. The sad side is to see how many lazy cowards sheeps won't move a finger to defend their rights. Great vid. Called already. Jesus, you called using that pigeon English? LOL... I never forgive and I never forget I am a licensed firearm holder. I will, under protection of law, use lethal force if attacked. |