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oct 31---things are going to change forever

 
Lotus Flower

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Is it time to get to the safe zones, chip?
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The only safe zone YOU need to get to is one away from Chipg.
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Hey man. What about the drones?
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damned

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Is it time to get to the safe zones, chip?
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The only safe zone YOU need to get to is one away from Chipg.
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Hey man. What about the drones?
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damned

shroom
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that's ok flower, we already knew you were not too bright. lead the charge. we will clean up the mess, still standing.

oh am i hateful? nothing compared to yall, am i sending the right message? well mashing and grinding of teeth. you like that one more. it's going down and so are most of you. get use to it...
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The only safe zone YOU need to get to is one away from Chipg.
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Hey man. What about the drones?
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damned

shroom
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that's ok flower, we already knew you were not too bright. lead the charge. we will clean up the mess, still standing.

oh am i hateful? nothing compared to yall, am i sending the right message? well mashing and grinding of teeth. you like that one more. it's going down and so are most of you. get use to it...
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Shut up Chip for crying out loud, you have already shown how much you are a liar.

I couldn't give a rat's arse if you are hateful or not, and whether you are or are not doesn't even enter my mind because quite frankly, I think you are nothing but a charlatan.

Besides which, you never shut up, you speak too many words, but never have much to say.

No matter, one day, you will grow up.
Lotus

Be not forgetful to entertain strangers: for thereby some have entertained angels unawares - Hebrews 13:2

One Crowded hour of glorious life, is worth an age without a name - Thomas Osbert Mordaunt
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nine we have come to a fork in the road, in case you don't understand this, it means you must turn, the choice is removed. left or right. i have a strange feeling you have an answer for even this dilemma. a jumping left or something. as to the virgin, we were both virgin, in case you missed that, which i know you didn't just your way of sliding in the stupid for the stupid, which also allows for the jumping left. starting to see how your mind works...

wish i had linked your reply, i had a lot more to say, but drawing a blank. that means, nothing comes to mind...
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If I were at a fork in the road, guess I'd consider myself temporarily lost and use the wilderness survival plan. STOP.

Sit, Think, Observe, Plan

Stop, sit and collect thoughts.

Think what tools you have at your disposal. How will you use the tools?
Move with a plan.

Observe. Are you in a place there is shelter, water, high ground where you can be found, or a location you can build a fire, or use a signal?

Plan. Prioritize immediate needs. If it's late, build a fire for heat and signaling. Find a shelter against the weather.

It's very late Chip. You have to find shelter.
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as to the demons, refresh my memory. i talk more about them than the good guys? copy and paste, please.

that means right click and following the words, then left clink at the flashing cursor. it all gets easier the more you do it...

don't get mad, just having the same fun as you, playing the game. i have been very clear or at least i thought i was, up to now. this might be a good night for a break, beer anyone.

come on nine, my writing is not hard to understand, is it?
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No, not mad and am glad you are enjoying it, but no fair trying to get me banned. LOL. No way am I going to repost everything. Just read back. As you read, keep this scripture in mind and see if you think it applies to you, or if you think other people think it applies to you.

Colossians 2:18
Do not let anyone who delights in false humility and the worship of angels disqualify you. Such a person also goes into great detail about what they have seen; they are puffed up with idle notions by their unspiritual mind.
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as to the demons, refresh my memory. i talk more about them than the good guys? copy and paste, please.

that means right click and following the words, then left clink at the flashing cursor. it all gets easier the more you do it...

don't get mad, just having the same fun as you, playing the game. i have been very clear or at least i thought i was, up to now. this might be a good night for a break, beer anyone.

come on nine, my writing is not hard to understand, is it?
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No, not mad and am glad you are enjoying it, but no fair trying to get me banned. LOL. No way am I going to repost everything. Just read back. As you read, keep this scripture in mind and see if you think it applies to you, or if you think other people think it applies to you.

Colossians 2:18
Do not let anyone who delights in false humility and the worship of angels disqualify you. Such a person also goes into great detail about what they have seen; they are puffed up with idle notions by their unspiritual mind.
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this is what i mean nine, just you finish reading that chapter, it is speaking of one who brings false visions for his own gain> your playing with real fire!!!!!! you will get burned.

i thought you had more class than that, no fear of, well screw it. you show who you are. not worth wasting any more time. go on fearing the devil. he is fixing to beat you. the one to fear you never knew, just pitiful, nine.

this really makes me mad, all my time and energy wasted on this. one line queens, it was yourself you fooled...
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Hey man. What about the drones?
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damned

shroom
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that's ok flower, we already knew you were not too bright. lead the charge. we will clean up the mess, still standing.

oh am i hateful? nothing compared to yall, am i sending the right message? well mashing and grinding of teeth. you like that one more. it's going down and so are most of you. get use to it...
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Shut up Chip for crying out loud, you have already shown how much you are a liar.

I couldn't give a rat's arse if you are hateful or not, and whether you are or are not doesn't even enter my mind because quite frankly, I think you are nothing but a charlatan.

Besides which, you never shut up, you speak too many words, but never have much to say.

No matter, one day, you will grow up.
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flower, go away, never mind i will. big waste of time the whole lot of you, the women are the worst. built up on false pride, tearing worlds apart. family whole families never to be together, yea let the girls run it,
NO WOMEN HERE
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WHEN YOUR LEFT. MAYBE THEN YOU WILL START TAKING ALL THIS SEROUS, SOME DO COME OUT OF THE GREAT TRIB.


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damned

shroom
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that's ok flower, we already knew you were not too bright. lead the charge. we will clean up the mess, still standing.

oh am i hateful? nothing compared to yall, am i sending the right message? well mashing and grinding of teeth. you like that one more. it's going down and so are most of you. get use to it...
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Shut up Chip for crying out loud, you have already shown how much you are a liar.

I couldn't give a rat's arse if you are hateful or not, and whether you are or are not doesn't even enter my mind because quite frankly, I think you are nothing but a charlatan.

Besides which, you never shut up, you speak too many words, but never have much to say.

No matter, one day, you will grow up.
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flower, go away, never mind i will. big waste of time the whole lot of you, the women are the worst. built up on false pride, tearing worlds apart. family whole families never to be together, yea let the girls run it,
NO WOMEN HERE
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YOU drove her away, start taking responsibility and stop blaming everyone else for your own misfortunes!!!

This IS a public forum Chip, you do realize that don't you. This place is also a bit brutal, you choose to post here, nobody forces you to. YOU type your postings, but you cannot expect everybody (or anybody come to that) to agree with them or believe you, you do realize that don't you, that people have freewill??

Ahh hold on, no of course, you think this forum is selective, that you are being "made" to post and that everybody should just take your word for everything you post.

Well, I have news for you pal, life isn't like that, so get used to it because this world involves males AND females and if you don't like it, you are upsetting the natural balance.

Good grief and you presume you are one of the Two Witnesses, you need to rethink and start, as I said, taking some responsibility for your own actions first.

ps why do you continually refer to people "running things"? Why does everybody have to be trying to lead and run things? Has it never occurred to you that that sort of life is far from the vast majority of the world's population???

You really do have serious issues Chippo and those issues are right under your nose but are not what you think they are, seriously, be warned.
Lotus

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WHEN YOUR LEFT. MAYBE THEN YOU WILL START TAKING ALL THIS SEROUS, SOME DO COME OUT OF THE GREAT TRIB.


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It is THIS sort of posting - your words in uppercase I am talking about, that rile people.

You see, you go on and on and on about the End Time, the Tribulation, how everybody will have this, that, the other put upon them, you even had the bloody audacity to give out dates IN THE LORD'S NAME!!! When those dates came and went with nothing happening, you THEN had the cheek to say GOD HAD CHANGED HIS MIND???????

When the 21st December, 2012 came and went, you said you were going to stay away, but you couldn't could you, you had to come back, try to justify yourself and THEN you started it all again, blaming others, continually griping about your hate for women - that feeling was ALWAYS in the background of your postings even if you never actually said as such. It shows particularly when you have an altercation with a female on these boards. You suddenly get really angry and insulting.

Do you know what "Delusions of Grandeur" means Chip?
Do you know what "Narcissistic" means?
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Be not forgetful to entertain strangers: for thereby some have entertained angels unawares - Hebrews 13:2

One Crowded hour of glorious life, is worth an age without a name - Thomas Osbert Mordaunt
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as to the demons, refresh my memory. i talk more about them than the good guys? copy and paste, please.

that means right click and following the words, then left clink at the flashing cursor. it all gets easier the more you do it...

don't get mad, just having the same fun as you, playing the game. i have been very clear or at least i thought i was, up to now. this might be a good night for a break, beer anyone.

come on nine, my writing is not hard to understand, is it?
 Quoting: chipg 24472516


No, not mad and am glad you are enjoying it, but no fair trying to get me banned. LOL. No way am I going to repost everything. Just read back. As you read, keep this scripture in mind and see if you think it applies to you, or if you think other people think it applies to you.

Colossians 2:18
Do not let anyone who delights in false humility and the worship of angels disqualify you. Such a person also goes into great detail about what they have seen; they are puffed up with idle notions by their unspiritual mind.
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this is what i mean nine, just you finish reading that chapter, it is speaking of one who brings false visions for his own gain> your playing with real fire!!!!!! you will get burned.

i thought you had more class than that, no fear of, well screw it. you show who you are. not worth wasting any more time. go on fearing the devil. he is fixing to beat you. the one to fear you never knew, just pitiful, nine.

this really makes me mad, all my time and energy wasted on this. one line queens, it was yourself you fooled...
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Ah. You do see yourself in the scripture. Even so, it's not ok to mess with someone elses' feelings just because you're unsure of your own.

Lotus Flower is right that you drive people from your life. It's a choice that you continue to make.

I told you I would like to be your friend but I won't be your follower. What you do and say is not of His Word. It's been shown to you from the Bible. The Bible that you say you believe every word, yet anything you don't want to apply to yourself becomes a "one liner."

Narcissistic? Delusions of grandeur? I hope so. At least that will be forgiven. Friendship with and accepting and acting the lies of demons, while comparing your trials to Jesus, might not be.

No, no class, Chip. A person hanging on to the rope while a person dangles over the edge of a cliff doesn't look ladylike or that she has class. Even less class when the person realizes they have to let go of the rope or be pulled over with you.

Your first sentence says to finish reading the chapter. I did. There were only five more verses and it said nothing about false visions for his own gain. Please post the scripture where it says that.

We've reached out to you and offered the hand of friendship. It was refused and met with either ridicule, or your warnings of playing with fire, getting burned, or being doomed to hell.

You know what you need to do but you won't because you won't part with your demon friends. Get rid of them and their influence on you and you might have real friends. Always choices Chip. I hope you make better ones in the future than you have in the past.
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Below are Bible commentators comments on Colossians 2:18.

Ray Stedman
Paul is warning against the false teachers in Colossae who had visions and made contact with angels (remembering that 1/3 of the angels are "fallen" and constitute the demons ruled by Satan). In bypassing the Word of God and the Spirit of God, they were opening themselves to all kinds of demonic activity because Satan is a liar (Jn 8:44) and a deceiver (Rev 12:9-note) who is a master at creating counterfeit experiences (2Cor 11:13, 14, 15).

Matthew Henry's Concise Commentary
Colossians 2:18-23
It looked like humility to apply to angels, as if men were conscious of their unworthiness to speak directly to God. But it is not warrantable; it is taking that honour which is due to Christ only, and giving it to a creature. There really was pride in this seeming humility. Those who worship angels, disclaim Christ, who is the only Mediator between God and man. It is an insult to Christ, who is the Head of the church, to use any intercessors but him. When men let go their hold of Christ, they catch at what will stand them in no stead. The body of Christ is a growing body. And true believers cannot live in the fashions of the world. True wisdom is, to keep close to the appointments of the gospel; in entire subjection to Christ, who is the only Head of his church.

Jamieson-Fausset-Brown Bible Commentary
Tregelles refers this to fancied visions of angels. But if Paul had meant a fancied seeing, he would have used some qualifying word, as, "which he seemed to see," not "which he hath seen." Plainly the things were actually seen by him, whether of demoniacal origination (1Sa 28:11-20), or phenomena resulting from natural causation, mistaken by him as if supernatural.

Barclay comments that...
The Gnostic prided himself upon special visions of secret things which were not open to the eyes of ordinary men and women. No one will deny the visions of the mystics, but there is always danger when a man begins to think that he has attained a height of holiness which enables him to see what common men-as he calls them-cannot see; and the danger is that men will so often see, not what God sends them, but what they want to see. There is the worship of angels [2:20]. Jews had a highly-developed doctrine of angels and Gnostics believed in all kinds of intermediaries. They worshipped these, while the Christian knows that worship must be kept for God and for Jesus Christ." (Barclay, W: The Daily Study Bible Series, Rev. ed. Philadelphia: The
Westminster Press)

Vincent says: "The attitude of the false teachers would involve their sitting in judgment as to the future reward of those who refused their doctrine of angelic mediation. Paul speaks from the standpoint of their claim." We could go a step farther and say that these false teachers would actually deprive those Christians who would be led astray by them, of their reward at the Judgment Seat of Christ by reason of the fact that their Christian experience would be affected, and in a bad way. (Wuest, K. S.

Wuest's Word Studies from the Greek New Testament: Eerdmans or Logos)
1 Timothy 4:1
The Spirit clearly says that in later times some will abandon the faith and follow deceiving spirits and things taught by demons.

Matthew 4:10
Jesus said to him, “Away from me, Satan! For it is written: ‘Worship the Lord your God, and serve him only.”


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nine, if i wasn't mistaken i would think you were saying Paul was not of GOD, but of his own making? is this what your implying?

it seems you know just enough bible to confuse yourself. does the bible state or imply anywhere inside it's covers that angels do in fact speak and are sent by GOD or Jesus them self to speak to those working for GOD/ Jesus on this planet?
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The only words of mine, in the post directly above yours, are, "Below are Bible commentators comments on Colossians 2:18."

Of course there are examples of angels sent by God in the Bible.Satan and his demons are fallen angels. Good angels don't lie or make a liar of you.

Fallen angels, or demons, would, and do.

True, I don't know a lot about the Bible. I'm learning. Your mockery won't interfere with my learning.

If you truly want to work for God, maybe you should tell the demons to leave.
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I thought we were making some progress Chip. Your last few post are really disappointing. YOU are passing judgement on people who you barely know. Take a good hard look in the mirror. That is where your problems are. Attacking women and condemning anyone who questions you. Lotus is correct, you made predictions in Gods name that didn't come true. Nines is correct, you want followers. The story I shared with you was about a family that showed Christian values through their actions not their words. What I see from you is anger and resentment.

This is an important question that you must answer.

If a non-Christian were to read the last two pages, how would your words of brought them closer to salvation?

You shouldn't write another thing on this board until you can truthfully answer, not to me but to yourself.
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The only words of mine, in the post directly above yours, are, "Below are Bible commentators comments on Colossians 2:18."

Of course there are examples of angels sent by God in the Bible.Satan and his demons are fallen angels. Good angels don't lie or make a liar of you.

Fallen angels, or demons, would, and do.

True, I don't know a lot about the Bible. I'm learning. Your mockery won't interfere with my learning.

If you truly want to work for God, maybe you should tell the demons to leave.
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nine, your the only one claoming these guys are demons, i say you, meaning all of you who do. you bese your words on things you don't fully understand. you say they lie, i say they misrepresent the truth and for good reason. i am not in any way, shape or form saying i agree with their methoms, but i do understand them. the truth is a lot of times i can't handle the truth, it would be more than i could bare.

i used the examples with the preachers, how i had to mislead them, because the truth would have left me stranded, seeing it from this point of view helped me to understand a few things.

example, if i told you your draughter was going to die and this would lead you on to bigger things, the pain and hurt, just waiting on the event would hold you back, but if i said, one day all this will make since, but you have to trust me.
take job for example, he lost everything, even his wife was saying to cuss his god already. job, said no, he knows something i don't and held true. i bet it was as many as 10 yrs for all the things to go wrong with him, at the end he was even breaking out with sores, his friends and family all came against him.

these stories in the bible are not history lestons, but life lessons. treaching us how to act should these things happen to us.

there is also alot of things i can't bring here to this forum, things i know, i can't tell, for reason you will understand later. you will understand later, if you make it.

the test that stand before us all will be tests one couldn't even image. trails of biblical accounts. people you know losing their lives for doing what is right! when your test comes and it will, will you take that path, the cost of your life, will fear overwhelm you. fear is huge.

before Daniel was thrown in the lions den, he said, my GOD can save me this day, i don't know if he will but he can. then he let them throw him in, same goes for those guys in the firery funance, there were many times people died, their heads were taken.

what would you say to abe, when he was asked to kill his child? GOD would never ask that from you! it's the devil or his demons, right. nope, it was GOD and abe knew it, he did what was asked of him. it worked out good.

you think i didn't question my GOD for over 40 yrs as i grew up, my own family didn't want me. my GOD fearing wifes had lovers and left. everyone i trusted did me in. over and over, yet the whole while i following GOD's rules to the letter or at least trying to and trying real hard. only to be left in the cold over and over. july 31 it all became very clear. i was tested on levels most couldn't, i have watched people kill themselves over one event in life. that one event was not even close to 10 of mine. i'm not blowing my own horn, it's true. i watched GOD save me over and over, yet no one was there. was that you GOD? no answer
it's been a long hard ride, this last act will be the toughest by far.

as to following me, to where? i'm saying get ready, and for things that will not make since. trust your GOD, up to and even into death. this is the test of test. words, throw them away. your actions are who you are! do you know who you are? well your fixing to find out!!!
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I thought we were making some progress Chip. Your last few post are really disappointing. YOU are passing judgement on people who you barely know. Take a good hard look in the mirror. That is where your problems are. Attacking women and condemning anyone who questions you. Lotus is correct, you made predictions in Gods name that didn't come true. Nines is correct, you want followers. The story I shared with you was about a family that showed Christian values through their actions not their words. What I see from you is anger and resentment.

This is an important question that you must answer.

If a non-Christian were to read the last two pages, how would your words of brought them closer to salvation?

You shouldn't write another thing on this board until you can truthfully answer, not to me but to yourself.
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yea, ray i am pissed off and at women, some men, well boys. the women have a role here unlike any other. they teach the next generration, what is expected of them. how to act! they are teaching the girls my sons would married, have a couple kids, throw him out, get a real nice check.

while that man, and i'm talking to the men, loses all reason to live. some new guy drives up with my wife and kids, she jumps out wanting the check before even getting the kids out, no check, no kids. some dipshit stole my life and he thinks it funny.

look man, i planed her death. i was going to kill the shit out of her, i was dead anyway. don't you get it! the pain was so great i wanted someone to suffer with me, killing her was all i could think of and i thought of it a lot. i planned it, right down to seeing her dead laying in front of me, this voice kept whispering vegenous is mine. what? i don't understand GOD, i hurt the min. i open my eyes and all day long, everyday. months on end.

i thought of her laying there dead, in my mind, i could see her laying there. i knew my pain wouldn't quit that day, so i said ok GOD, she yours, do as you wish. i never thought of killing her again. i still hurt, many many months. then one day my phone rings. it was candi, my ex, she said chip, i have no place to live. it has been four long years since being kicked out of my house for beating her. i never layed a finger on her, the judge could have cared less. pay this much and stay 500 ft from her. see your kids 2 times a month.
i am their dad, i have a job to do only their dad can do!!! i just cried for the whole fucking court room. my love was being tore from me. my heart was being ripped out of my chest. i had to walk out of there. that is exeded in my mind.

these women don't care who they hurt, 3 people paid dearly for her actions. chip, chase and chance. if you can't understand that, oh well. the church isn't saying a word. THAT IS THE CHURCHES JOB!!! the divorce rate among christian families is 83% check who is doing all the filing!

anyway, she called, i have no place to live, ok where are you now? i'll be right there. i came got the boys, thank you GOD, you are true. i have had them every since. they were 6 and 7, today 17 and 18. men i have raised, still got a crap hole of women, just check the stats...
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as far as bringing people to christ, i do this with my actions, i help any and all when i can. this means even when it cost me something, which it always does. most people out here are just useing each other like some kind of game. we are human, we can't help it. i say bullcrap and i say it too their faces when i am helping them.

did you know 96% of all preachers live here in the USA, well if they can't get it here, it ant going to happen.

i don't play silly little christian games. i will bust your butt if i see you doing things any 5 yr old kid understand is wrong. i call you out, right there to your face, just ask anyone who knows me. i am know for being one of the hardest do right guys in the world. i pull my weight and then some. that is why my wifes left, i didn't play games, i play hard, but i work harder. this thing is real very real, judgement day is fast approaching and most ant going to like it.

if i can knock some sence into a few of these people with my words, i plan to. the standard is high, very high. JESUS didn't do one single sin, that in itself is hard to believe, what is harder to believe is that it was the church that killed him.

yea he lay down his life, he didn't fight back. don't you ever forget!!!!! it was a murder that day on the cross. GOD turned even the murder of his son into a good thing.

the church is all but dead and gone, just the way it was when Jesus came. same crowd here today. saying sweet little nothing as they do each other and their families in...

follow me, not one of you could follow me. i drive a hard game and until i take my last breath i will be driving it. this is no game to me. i care, i care enough to make you very mad and day after day, if that is what it takes. we the people must change, this crap wont fly in heaven...
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this really makes me mad, all my time and energy wasted on this.
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Man, that breaks my heart, all that noble effort you valiantly wasted on us obstinate punks. . .

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this really makes me mad, all my time and energy wasted on this.
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Man, that breaks my heart, all that noble effort you valiantly wasted on us obstinate punks. . .

rolleyes
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i know you understand what i mean, almost 2 yrs and we are still debating if they are demons or not.
heck, there is a test in the bible as how to tell who is who. 2nd John, but you see how when the bible can be used to end an argument, they never want to use it!

they are not demons, for the last time, well i wish it was the last time.

i know you don't understand, it don't make me wrong or them demons.

we can't get pass the stupid stuff to get to stuff that will help you. not follow me, but follow those who have come before you. those in the bible. John the baptist lost his head. in fact all those who were with Jesus during his 3 yrs lost their heads.

GOD is mad, very mad. he is the first guy when it comes to family. family is tops in his book, yet all these Christians in their 3rd and 4th marriages. taking away the family is like taking away god. if it wasn't for his desire for family, we would not be here. it is his core family values that allows him to put up with his family at this point...

try to look at all this from his point of view, love each other, love your enemy.

yet these (Christians) guys are throwing the mothers and fathers out on the street. going to work all day, letting the crap school system lay down the rules for life, mommy don't have time, daddy's gone, the new guy only wants what men want, we know the song and dance.

i was working one day and this fat, well half fat lady comes running in, yelling, sorry, sorry everyone, but the line was so long. me being the noisy guy i am, was trying to think what line is she talking about? the line at the nusrny. i ask how old is your child? 4 months, she said. i ask, do you go to church? she said of course. i just love Jesus! Jesus i said, you love him? oh yes, the guy with me droped everything and began to pull me outside.

i said what are you doing? i'm your boss! he says i know chip, please don't go off on her, i need the money. we are standing outside. i try hard to cool off and say OK man, i will let it go. you know you really should trust GOD a bit more, if i did make us lose this job, another would be there to back this one up. don't sweat it so much. if i start getting rich, i start getting worried, what am i doing so wrong to make all this money.

anyway we walk back in, start back working, i work around people all day. voice and date, telephones and computers, camera's, etc. the lady starts going off on one of the teachers at the day care center, she is this and that. i lose it.

just how does one walk into a day care and drop off a 4 month old? that baby is still on your titty, how do you work all that out? oh i put bottles in her bag. i had to ask one more questions, what does your husband think about all this? oh i put his sorry butt in the road.

well we lost that job, almost had the police called, at least she wont say "i didn't know" oh yes you did, chip told you! i can almost hear GOD now...

strangest thing happened, the next day, her boss called, the guy who hired me. you think you can come back on Saturday and finish up? i said you sure? yea man, somebody has to say something! tired of watching these foolish women.

we finish and got paid cash, no taxes. their is GOD's fingerprint again...the lady probably did the accounting
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this really makes me mad, all my time and energy wasted on this.
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Man, that breaks my heart, all that noble effort you valiantly wasted on us obstinate punks. . .

rolleyes
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i know you understand what i mean, almost 2 yrs and we are still debating if they are demons or not.
heck, there is a test in the bible as how to tell who is who. 2nd John, but you see how when the bible can be used to end an argument, they never want to use it!

they are not demons, for the last time, well i wish it was the last time.

i know you don't understand, it don't make me wrong or them demons.

we can't get pass the stupid stuff to get to stuff that will help you. not follow me, but follow those who have come before you. those in the bible. John the baptist lost his head. in fact all those who were with Jesus during his 3 yrs lost their heads.

GOD is mad, very mad. he is the first guy when it comes to family. family is tops in his book, yet all these Christians in their 3rd and 4th marriages. taking away the family is like taking away god. if it wasn't for his desire for family, we would not be here. it is his core family values that allows him to put up with his family at this point...

try to look at all this from his point of view, love each other, love your enemy.

yet these (Christians) guys are throwing the mothers and fathers out on the street. going to work all day, letting the crap school system lay down the rules for life, mommy don't have time, daddy's gone, the new guy only wants what men want, we know the song and dance.

i was working one day and this fat, well half fat lady comes running in, yelling, sorry, sorry everyone, but the line was so long. me being the noisy guy i am, was trying to think what line is she talking about? the line at the nusrny. i ask how old is your child? 4 months, she said. i ask, do you go to church? she said of course. i just love Jesus! Jesus i said, you love him? oh yes, the guy with me droped everything and began to pull me outside.

i said what are you doing? i'm your boss! he says i know chip, please don't go off on her, i need the money. we are standing outside. i try hard to cool off and say OK man, i will let it go. you know you really should trust GOD a bit more, if i did make us lose this job, another would be there to back this one up. don't sweat it so much. if i start getting rich, i start getting worried, what am i doing so wrong to make all this money.

anyway we walk back in, start back working, i work around people all day. voice and date, telephones and computers, camera's, etc. the lady starts going off on one of the teachers at the day care center, she is this and that. i lose it.

just how does one walk into a day care and drop off a 4 month old? that baby is still on your titty, how do you work all that out? oh i put bottles in her bag. i had to ask one more questions, what does your husband think about all this? oh i put his sorry butt in the road.

well we lost that job, almost had the police called, at least she wont say "i didn't know" oh yes you did, chip told you! i can almost hear GOD now...

strangest thing happened, the next day, her boss called, the guy who hired me. you think you can come back on Saturday and finish up? i said you sure? yea man, somebody has to say something! tired of watching these foolish women.

we finish and got paid cash, no taxes. their is GOD's fingerprint again...the lady probably did the accounting
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Can someone please interpret. . .?
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i know you understand what i mean, almost 2 yrs and we are still debating if they are demons or not.
heck, there is a test in the bible as how to tell who is who. 2nd John, but you see how when the bible can be used to end an argument, they never want to use it!

they are not demons, for the last time, well i wish it was the last time.

i know you don't understand, it don't make me wrong or them demons.

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Since 2 John is one of the shortest chapters in the New Testament, it was easy to read and re-read to make sure there is nothing there like you say. There isn't.

You're probably thinking of 1 John where it is speaking of how to tell if someone is teaching/preaching from the Holy Spirit,and in agreement with His Word, as explained by Bible commentaries.

From Barnes: Every spirit - Everyone professing to be under the influence of the Spirit of God. The apostle uses the word "spirit" here with reference to the person who made the claim, on the supposition that everyone professing to be a religious teacher was animated by some spirit or foreign influence, good or bad.

"It cannot be supposed that a mere statement of this in words would show that they were of God in the sense that they were true Christians; but the sense is, that if this constituted one of the doctrines which they held and taught, it would show that they were advocates of truth, and not apostles of error. If they did not do this, 1 John 4:3, it would be decisive in regard to their character and claims."

"Is of God - This does not necessarily mean that everyone who confessed this was personally a true Christian, for it is clear that a doctrine might be acknowledged to be true, and yet that the heart might not be changed; nor does it mean that the acknowledgment of this truth was all which it was essential to be believed in order that one might be recognised as a Christian; but it means that it was essential that this truth should be admitted by everyone who truly came from God. They who taught this held a truth which he had revealed, and which was essential to be held; and they thus showed that they did not belong to those to whom the name "antichrist" could be properly given. Still, whether they held this doctrine in such a sense, and in such connection with other doctrines, as to show that they were sincere Christians, was quite another question, for it is plain that a man may hold and teach the true doctrines of religion, and yet have no evidence that he is a child of God."

In this case, the spirit to be tested is you, Chip, and you've failed.
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Right now, I don't see where you claimed that we don't want to use the Bible. It seens to me that it is you who doesn't want to use the Bible. Still waiting for your answer as to where in Colossians 2 it says about false visions for his own gain.

You aren't even reading the verses provided for you or you wouldn't have asked if there is anywhere in the Bible that God sent an angel. It was answered in the verses right above your post.

You asked for facts. I produced them. Please have the courtesy to read them.
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i used the examples with the preachers, how i had to mislead them, because the truth would have left me stranded, seeing it from this point of view helped me to understand a few things.
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as to following me, to where? i'm saying get ready, and for things that will not make since. trust your GOD, up to and even into death. this is the test of test. words, throw them away. your actions are who you are! do you know who you are? well your fixing to find out!!!
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No, you didn't have to mislead them. You chose to mislead them. When you can't even pass the test to be truthful for fear of being stranded, you might want to worry more about yourself passing tests, than others.
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this really makes me mad, all my time and energy wasted on this.
 Quoting: chipg 24455934


Man, that breaks my heart, all that noble effort you valiantly wasted on us obstinate punks. . .

rolleyes
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i know you understand what i mean, almost 2 yrs and we are still debating if they are demons or not.
heck, there is a test in the bible as how to tell who is who. 2nd John, but you see how when the bible can be used to end an argument, they never want to use it!

they are not demons, for the last time, well i wish it was the last time.

i know you don't understand, it don't make me wrong or them demons.

we can't get pass the stupid stuff to get to stuff that will help you. not follow me, but follow those who have come before you. those in the bible. John the baptist lost his head. in fact all those who were with Jesus during his 3 yrs lost their heads.

GOD is mad, very mad. he is the first guy when it comes to family. family is tops in his book, yet all these Christians in their 3rd and 4th marriages. taking away the family is like taking away god. if it wasn't for his desire for family, we would not be here. it is his core family values that allows him to put up with his family at this point...

try to look at all this from his point of view, love each other, love your enemy.

yet these (Christians) guys are throwing the mothers and fathers out on the street. going to work all day, letting the crap school system lay down the rules for life, mommy don't have time, daddy's gone, the new guy only wants what men want, we know the song and dance.

i was working one day and this fat, well half fat lady comes running in, yelling, sorry, sorry everyone, but the line was so long. me being the noisy guy i am, was trying to think what line is she talking about? the line at the nusrny. i ask how old is your child? 4 months, she said. i ask, do you go to church? she said of course. i just love Jesus! Jesus i said, you love him? oh yes, the guy with me droped everything and began to pull me outside.

i said what are you doing? i'm your boss! he says i know chip, please don't go off on her, i need the money. we are standing outside. i try hard to cool off and say OK man, i will let it go. you know you really should trust GOD a bit more, if i did make us lose this job, another would be there to back this one up. don't sweat it so much. if i start getting rich, i start getting worried, what am i doing so wrong to make all this money.

anyway we walk back in, start back working, i work around people all day. voice and date, telephones and computers, camera's, etc. the lady starts going off on one of the teachers at the day care center, she is this and that. i lose it.

just how does one walk into a day care and drop off a 4 month old? that baby is still on your titty, how do you work all that out? oh i put bottles in her bag. i had to ask one more questions, what does your husband think about all this? oh i put his sorry butt in the road.

well we lost that job, almost had the police called, at least she wont say "i didn't know" oh yes you did, chip told you! i can almost hear GOD now...

strangest thing happened, the next day, her boss called, the guy who hired me. you think you can come back on Saturday and finish up? i said you sure? yea man, somebody has to say something! tired of watching these foolish women.

we finish and got paid cash, no taxes. their is GOD's fingerprint again...the lady probably did the accounting
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Can someone please interpret. . .?
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i know you understand what i mean, almost 2 yrs and we are still debating if they are demons or not.
heck, there is a test in the bible as how to tell who is who. 2nd John, but you see how when the bible can be used to end an argument, they never want to use it!

they are not demons, for the last time, well i wish it was the last time.

i know you don't understand, it don't make me wrong or them demons.

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Since 2 John is one of the shortest chapters in the New Testament, it was easy to read and re-read to make sure there is nothing there like you say. There isn't.

You're probably thinking of 1 John where it is speaking of how to tell if someone is teaching/preaching from the Holy Spirit,and in agreement with His Word, as explained by Bible commentaries.

From Barnes: Every spirit - Everyone professing to be under the influence of the Spirit of God. The apostle uses the word "spirit" here with reference to the person who made the claim, on the supposition that everyone professing to be a religious teacher was animated by some spirit or foreign influence, good or bad.



You still fail.

"It cannot be supposed that a mere statement of this in words would show that they were of God in the sense that they were true Christians; but the sense is, that if this constituted one of the doctrines which they held and taught, it would show that they were advocates of truth, and not apostles of error. If they did not do this, 1 John 4:3, it would be decisive in regard to their character and claims."

"Is of God - This does not necessarily mean that everyone who confessed this was personally a true Christian, for it is clear that a doctrine might be acknowledged to be true, and yet that the heart might not be changed; nor does it mean that the acknowledgment of this truth was all which it was essential to be believed in order that one might be recognised as a Christian; but it means that it was essential that this truth should be admitted by everyone who truly came from God. They who taught this held a truth which he had revealed, and which was essential to be held; and they thus showed that they did not belong to those to whom the name "antichrist" could be properly given. Still, whether they held this doctrine in such a sense, and in such connection with other doctrines, as to show that they were sincere Christians, was quite another question, for it is plain that a man may hold and teach the true doctrines of religion, and yet have no evidence that he is a child of God."

In this case, the spirit to be tested is you, Chip, and you've failed.
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I apologize. I was reading the second verse of John when I said it wasn't there. You're referring to 2 John 1:7

"For many deceivers are gone forth into the world, even they that confess not that Jesus Christ cometh in the flesh. This is the deceiver and the antichrist."

Still the same meaning according to Gill's Exposition:

"For many deceivers are entered into the world,.... By whom are meant false teachers, who are described by their quality, "deceivers", deceitful workers, pretending to be ministers of Christ, to have a: value for truth, a love for souls, and a view to the glory of God, but lie in wait to deceive, and handle the word of God deceitfully; and by their quantity or number, "many", and so likely to do much mischief; and by the place where they were, they were "entered into the world"; or "gone out into the world", as the Alexandrian copy and some others, and the Vulgate Latin and Syriac versions read; See Gill on 1 John 4:1; and by their tenet"

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.....................................yada...yada......yad​a.......................................................
we finish and got paid cash, no taxes...........yada...................
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Can someone please interpret. . .?
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Uh - Chip cheats on his taxes?
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yea, ray i am pissed off and at women, some men, well boys. the women have a role here unlike any other. they teach the next generration, what is expected of them. how to act! they are teaching the girls my sons would married, have a couple kids, throw him out, get a real nice check.

while that man, and i'm talking to the men, loses all reason to live. some new guy drives up with my wife and kids, she jumps out wanting the check before even getting the kids out, no check, no kids. some dipshit stole my life and he thinks it funny.

look man, i planed her death. i was going to kill the shit out of her, i was dead anyway. don't you get it! the pain was so great i wanted someone to suffer with me, killing her was all i could think of and i thought of it a lot. i planned it, right down to seeing her dead laying in front of me, this voice kept whispering vegenous is mine. what? i don't understand GOD, i hurt the min. i open my eyes and all day long, everyday. months on end.

i thought of her laying there dead, in my mind, i could see her laying there. i knew my pain wouldn't quit that day, so i said ok GOD, she yours, do as you wish. i never thought of killing her again. i still hurt, many many months. then one day my phone rings. it was candi, my ex, she said chip, i have no place to live. it has been four long years since being kicked out of my house for beating her. i never layed a finger on her, the judge could have cared less. pay this much and stay 500 ft from her. see your kids 2 times a month.
i am their dad, i have a job to do only their dad can do!!! i just cried for the whole fucking court room. my love was being tore from me. my heart was being ripped out of my chest. i had to walk out of there. that is exeded in my mind.

these women don't care who they hurt, 3 people paid dearly for her actions. chip, chase and chance. if you can't understand that, oh well. the church isn't saying a word. THAT IS THE CHURCHES JOB!!! the divorce rate among christian families is 83% check who is doing all the filing!

anyway, she called, i have no place to live, ok where are you now? i'll be right there. i came got the boys, thank you GOD, you are true. i have had them every since. they were 6 and 7, today 17 and 18. men i have raised, still got a crap hole of women, just check the stats...
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Matthew 6:14-15
"Yes, if you forgive others for their sins, your Father in heaven will also forgive you for your sins. But if you don't forgive others, your Father in heaven will not forgive your sins."

You can't start the next chapter of your life until you stop re-reading the last one.
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i know you understand what i mean, almost 2 yrs and we are still debating if they are demons or not.
heck, there is a test in the bible as how to tell who is who. 2nd John, but you see how when the bible can be used to end an argument, they never want to use it!

they are not demons, for the last time, well i wish it was the last time.

i know you don't understand, it don't make me wrong or them demons.

 Quoting: chipg 25632852


Since 2 John is one of the shortest chapters in the New Testament, it was easy to read and re-read to make sure there is nothing there like you say. There isn't.

You're probably thinking of 1 John where it is speaking of how to tell if someone is teaching/preaching from the Holy Spirit,and in agreement with His Word, as explained by Bible commentaries.

From Barnes: Every spirit - Everyone professing to be under the influence of the Spirit of God. The apostle uses the word "spirit" here with reference to the person who made the claim, on the supposition that everyone professing to be a religious teacher was animated by some spirit or foreign influence, good or bad.

"It cannot be supposed that a mere statement of this in words would show that they were of God in the sense that they were true Christians; but the sense is, that if this constituted one of the doctrines which they held and taught, it would show that they were advocates of truth, and not apostles of error. If they did not do this, 1 John 4:3, it would be decisive in regard to their character and claims."

"Is of God - This does not necessarily mean that everyone who confessed this was personally a true Christian, for it is clear that a doctrine might be acknowledged to be true, and yet that the heart might not be changed; nor does it mean that the acknowledgment of this truth was all which it was essential to be believed in order that one might be recognised as a Christian; but it means that it was essential that this truth should be admitted by everyone who truly came from God. They who taught this held a truth which he had revealed, and which was essential to be held; and they thus showed that they did not belong to those to whom the name "antichrist" could be properly given. Still, whether they held this doctrine in such a sense, and in such connection with other doctrines, as to show that they were sincere Christians, was quite another question, for it is plain that a man may hold and teach the true doctrines of religion, and yet have no evidence that he is a child of God."

In this case, the spirit to be tested is you, Chip, and you've failed.
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nine, i can go for that, at least we dredge ahead. your asking yourself some real questions. just like i did.

man these angels came to me. it didn't do one thing for me, so you say this and that so what. i didn't fall for anyone but GOD. send your leader, i would say in around about way. don't get me wrong, i was no smart but. i had real fear inside. what are these things? no mater who they serve, i'm beat!!!! i can't stress that enough. i am going to use some hard words, bare with me... i have never felt so fucked! power, i thought i understood power. man i knew nothing, i went and did what they said, looking for a place to hide.
i went to my parents out of fear, not respect for them, meaning my parents. i had long lost hope in them.

but this time i'm in a real pickle. who are these people? look just like us, talked the whole nine yard, no putt intended.

i went to the church, wanting answers. the ran me off. i would have kicked the doors down, they knew it, so they let me in. no one had the answers i hunted.

WHO IS GOD? WHO IS HE? i asked every so called preacher in town, read every book. fear drove me, nothing else. GOD is one smart dude. i spend my life counting on him, his truth, at the end of the day or my life, GOD would decide. if he is who i thought he was, i win...that was before the stakes became so high.

there is alot i haven't said here and many reason why. the angels, you want to hear it ok, but sometimes you get wwhat you ask for, just remember that. they took me to deaths, yes real people being killed in real life, hope this don't get me banned, i got no friends, nor am i looking for any, i just want rest, do this last job and rest, a few thousand yrs. yea, deaths, that wreslser guy who killed his wife and son and shot himself. i seen it. the next day i flip on the tv, front page knews, grass ten ft tall growing in my bed room, right out of the floor, the angels walking around like nothing is going on, i could go on for hrs. the nut house was real. i went to make it stop. got to be real careful what you say if you want to leave. so i tip toe around saying this and that. i knew it was real! fear most of you don't understand. i wanted an exercision, couldn't get that. final i gave in, it was that or die. i was no easy sale.

i stoped and liston, i had no other choice. i turned that devil down just like i said. i spent a full yr running, ever try running from yourself. can't be done.

they had a job and said GOD have choice me, day one, they begin to show me how all things worked, day 2 til even now. everyone must and does pick a side and they live that side. it's never too late to change sides if you repent. well those guys who sold their souls there done, my guess is they haven't see hell or they couldn't funtion.

the days are numbered, just like the hairs on your head, time is running out so fast you wouldn't believe. i don't care about the loud mouths, i guess one could call me one, but i know what i'm talking about.

my questions are more like if there is two of us, where is the other guy? now that is one friend i could use. i'm not the sharpest knife in the drawn, but when i understand something i understand it.

i said from the jump, i wouldn't do it unless i total understood. i believe i do. it took me 3 yrs to read the bible, because i only read one page at a time. i wanted to understand and most times i need more than words in a book, well i got all that and more.

all i'm asking is get ready, it's coming. know your GOD, because this antichrist will fool everyone including me, if it were possable. it's not possable. the words in the bible are true and unchanged, add the 7 books and you have the whole story.

there is going to be a display of power like never seen before, if you know your GOD and his book. you will make it and making it might mean only being willing to die. the other side in one second away. don't be afraid! so if you want to follow me as someone put it, be willing to die, that you may live!!! paradice is 1000000000 fold your best thought, the best of the best, no pain of any type. only love. all your needs and wants met!!!!

you must know how to live there, that is what this place is all about. we just happen to live in the worst time of human history, the end folks. no matter how bad you want it not to be true, sorry it is. get your heart and mind ready. it will all change in one day. one day, never going back.

the devil gave up forever in peace and love for this day. we must pull together and ride it out, no matter what that is, i have only seen pieces, very bad pieces. your fear is your worst enemy! don't fear the bad guys, it will be much harder than it sounds. you can count on me.

go to your local church, ask the preacher who GOD is? if he was a person sitting in an enempty chair, fill that chair with who he is. after you ask your preachers, come back and i will tell you.

he is the best case possable for our GOD, our FATHER, he does loves us all, he wants people to act like they know how, not like they see others doing. the bar is very high! start reaching, start tonight, pray like you mean it!!! dear father, i am very afraid, what do i do? that is what i did, he showed me, i am here to help. let me help. please. go to your father tonight? did you send chip to help me? ask like you mean it, like your life is on the line, it is.
i will be getting banned soon, i'll keep trying until then.

i don't love any of you, i want to, i know how, but we don't know each other. my role is a strange one, my life wasn't built around love, it was built around trust. i trust my GOD, my FATHER. he will caught me, because i ask him to and i trust him...
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02/10/2013 09:44 PM
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Re: oct 31---things are going to change forever
Right now, I don't see where you claimed that we don't want to use the Bible. It seens to me that it is you who doesn't want to use the Bible. Still waiting for your answer as to where in Colossians 2 it says about false visions for his own gain.

You aren't even reading the verses provided for you or you wouldn't have asked if there is anywhere in the Bible that God sent an angel. It was answered in the verses right above your post.

You asked for facts. I produced them. Please have the courtesy to read them.
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ok nine, just one last question, just what have i gained? i really want to know, because i can't find it anywhere.

looks like a whole lot of nothing. what a few arguments on glp. the big winner is chip griffin, winner of nothing...