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Message Subject oct 31---things are going to change forever
Poster Handle chipg
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The first is a 2 part question. When your prayers weren't answered, what were you praying for, and why do you think some prayers are answered and others aren't?

When there was a war in heaven and the bad angels were cast out, what do you think happened to them? I think the Bible says they were cast down to earth doesn't it? If so, what are those bad angels now doing here on earth?

It's really interesting that you started out with the issue of the judgement day stage.

On this stage, you saw your sins beginning at 5 when you hit a boy. If God loves us more than we love our own children, why would He do that? How can a God of love judge a 5 yr. old little boy? Or even show the past behavior?

Even in the Bible, self defense is allowed and if it weren't, a 5 yr. old doesn't yet have a conscience. That's taught. So if they do wrong at that age, isn't the parent accountable?

Even when you were 16. God supposedly loves us more than we love our own children. You were going through a hard stage in life. Some have it harder than others, but for every teen, it's rough.

In my opinion, yours was a lot harder than many. If I can understand that, it makes no sense that God wouldn't. Especially since He supposedly loves us more than we love our own children.

I know God will settle the score in the end, and can see how people believe he punishes us now, because Hebrews 12:6 says, "because the Lord disciplines the one he loves, and he chastens everyone he accepts as his son."

BUT, James 1:13 says, “"When under trial, let no one say: ‘I am being tried by God.’ For with evil things God cannot be tried nor does he himself try anyone."”

ok nine, let me give it a shot...

our accountableity begins or we will be held accountable when he knows we understand, until then it falls under sins, so back when i was 5 and i might even be wrong as to my age, i might have been closer to 10. that was a few years back when i was on that stage or in that room. "my fathers house has many rooms"

when thinking back on the actual event, it went something like this. my dad and brother and i were out in the front yard, my dad had just returned home from yet another stay at the drunk tank, my dad had a very bad drinking problem and my mother would force him to treatment center, he would go away for up to 3 years at a time, we would visit every couple weeks is how i remember it, well this day he came back home to stay. so we were standing in the front yard and my dad ask me if i was a tough guy? wanting to please him i said yes i am! he said well then go punch that kid in the nose, the kid was our next door neibor. he was standing out in his back yard. i ran and jumped the fence and punch him right in the nose, i ran back to see my dad's aproval and him and my brother had already moved on to different things. in fact my dad never said a word about if i had pleased him, i remember thinking, i wish i hadn't done that, the kid was my friend. my heart hurt because i choice to please my dad over doing what was right. the boy and i remained friends, but not on the level we were. i betray my friend over a worthless dad. i was wrong!
but as to the rest of the judgement day, there were many times when i responded, eye for and eye, if you will. i was hit and returned the hit, or was called a name and called one back. it only showed my role in the conflict.
we are to defend ourselves when there is no other out, if we can walk away, then we are expected too, period, same with the name calling, etc.
remember our goal here is to see evil and not chose it, not to become as the world is. to turn the other chick is just that. let it stop with us, wheather it be actions or words. we are learning how to live in a world that will never die, no one will grow old, all OUR NEEDS AND WANTS WILL BE MET.

judgement is meant to show us were our work will begin and also the standard in which we are being held. our father is perfect and he is holding us to the same standard he holds himself. we have a ways to go, but we also have plenty of time to get there. we must know what we are being expected to achive. rightousness is the standard and nothing short of that will be allowed. only those willing to fight against evil will be invited in, the hurt and pain of this place is not vain, we take all we learned back with us, so never again will there be a war in heaven.

try to remember once in our new world the pull of the evil one will be removed and the walk become much easier, no drunks, no thieves, no liers, etc. will be there, just the ones who already agree those things are bad and unwanted in our new home or world.

in heaven there is this river, when you walk down into the water, the water has powers to remove the hurt and pain of the memories of the bad things done to us here. the events stay with us, but the hurt and pain are literaly washed away. very cool huh? we must not allow sin back into heaven, we must remember why it is and was bad. this way it will never happen again. each person has their own set of events of very painful things, so each person becomes a one man army if you will, standing firm against sin and all that comes with it. all those there agree, we want a world where such things are not allowed. hope this makes since...
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