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Nasa insider. not much time to get this info out. truth on elenin

 
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I knew it wasn't anon instantly. Anon shares the journey. One tends to look forward to anon's contribution, because like a true intellect he / she thinks with the person reading. This bozo, plying the science tripe of textbook recital is nothing short of a role player. We are all intelligent.
in nature we know science isn't written in stone. if it were then we wouldn't have this strange self replicating chemical composition that reforms itself on division called dna or the fact that light can exist from nothing but two mirrors of distance shorter then virtual particles , creating a vacuum , literally creating light or photon from nothing .then again, in reality we would not have the fascinating paradox of titan would we?
(one of NASA's biggest fails.. see if they say its life, problems exist for the religions, if they say its physics or chemistry then well, they have to falsify it. if they can falsify a chemical process that creates methane and ethane gas from non bio origins . well then that solves the world energy crisis. too convoluted , you know what i mean?)
the people who question the media are people like myself. i hate conspiracy stuff cause it distracts from the truth. we are not misled we are misinformed. every human has a thinking mind, be it unconscious or instinctual. it still formulates strategies for interacting with the environment that cause change.
if the false anon is trying to make a fool of us or the actual need to question. then i have one question. in order to have such a job as he is claiming and to have such a position. he must of at one time asked him self the same questions. in other words, if i am going looking for hamburgers i don't ask about the nearest vegan symposium.
the cover up of NASA is simple to comprehend and that is the problem. i have spent a long time trying to explain to normal everyday people that the photos and the actual events that happen in space as observed officially and unofficially by NASA are ours, the people of the earth , as it is science and that is the only data science has. that they are belligerently withholding information from us. lying and saying that they are a scientific human endeavor and then when something like, oh those strange shapes that were drawn to the tether line show up, are mistakenly caught on public airwaves, mysteriously they cancel all broadcasts from the shuttle from that time on. weak example i know, but maybe you see my angle. Cassini had one of the transmitters fail long enough to see what it was sending back before they brought it on . the ? 15 mins of silence of Apollo 11 ? what was happening? our inability to see June's asteroid 1/3 the distance of the moon,(after the one in 99 that did the same thing..apparently NASA just doesn't get it??.we are to trust the reports of a agency that doesn't learn from mistakes? we hear excuses , space is vast , space is full of..space..?? and what motion sensors are an illusion. against a backdrop of relatively stable orbiting planets. meh , yea it would be too hard wouldn't it.hard gauging the traffic to jaywalk in a speed restrictive zone.tough stuff. but we know about something just past Pluto ..by pure luck?. it is hard not to be skeptical about NASA. for me, the bs they fly us about titan is suffice.
thing is, like everyone else here, i can use science, i could even manipulate science fact i guess, to prove some redundant point.
the fake anon is redundant. i remember a guy in Indonesia, he was a guide for some cryptozoologists looking for the chupcrapa or whatever. this backwoods guy explained his theory. it fascinated me. he said it was either an escaped primate experiment.there was a lab that had some at one time.that managed to establish a population in the forest or he said...it was an experiment of the u.s. (possibly CIA or whatever) to see how people in a community would live and how the nature of some Richard Dawkin nightmare meme or virus would evolve into a legend.of note if it is an experiment of any psy-ops or such a thing then..it wouldn't be anything but darpa trying to make the last year sales catalog look outdated. since that is what they basically deal with the most. communications and psychological manipulation via media communications.
the op (false anon) has said nothing drastically new and only used the role playing to invent a unique way to posit a theory. entertaining , thanks, it is an opinion, to be sure. but, when the real anon came on and the gig was up. why continue?
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I'm posting from my Mobile as I'm currently caught by a wide IP ban. Anyway I'd like to thank OP for his entertaining post and say that I had thought something on the same lines. He had lost me at HAARP, but as he cleared up that it was not really to create EQs but to release already stored stress, that was an interesting twist. Well done OP. Here you have a CT that is completely on the fence about elenin, but wondering why they were tryng so hardware to keep it alive.
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I believe he could work for nasa. And I think the elite group is getting scared, that the so called CT group is growing!!! So then there will be less sheeple to manipulate, and maybe they lose control. He used some nice arguments; about the earthquakes/haarp/psi-op he could be right. But there is definetely something not right. Maybe nothing astronomical/universal will happen, but I've seen with my own eyes a lot of different strange things. I have seen in Holland a train full (over 100 vehicles) of military jeeps with the red cross on the side. Also a lot of strange new military vehicles in my village. Such as miltary bulldozers (more then 10), some sort of mini tank which can transport prisoners of CT people, :D Even amphibia vehicules driving around: the see is at least 150km further away. And where I live, there is no war, wait I check outside.... No nothing going on now. So they are preparing for something. For me thats proof bad things will happen. Could be 'only civil war', when the euro/EU collapse, but the guy is really trying to make us look more stupid then the "sheeple".

I just can't believe there is a psi-op department, even within nasa, and now this employee is telling their plot: Hi folcks, everything about elenin is all a hoax, don't believe it anymore, we fooled you, HA! For me, this adds to the conclusion, something might actually happen. Elenin could be a distraction, maybe for the other asteroid coming close in november (dont know the name).

What about the movies lately. A lot of alien movies, other planets coming close to earth. Probably mind control. But I don't see the point of that. A lot of "sheeple" go also to the movies, and those people don't believe in such a "crap" and will only listen to the government.

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ill make this as quick as i got about 20 minutes or so. im currently at a very discrete location and im sure i get monitored 24/7 but the person watching me now shouldnt have any idea i am making a communication

blah, blah, blah....

and im involved at pretty much the highest levels of engineering this thing

blah, blah, blah...



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Yeah right!

You always need engineers at discrete locations to engineer something that ISN'T going to happen.

nice try.
"Everybody lies."
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I agree with this statement 100%

"when the real one comes no one will believe it because everyone will be laughing at previous dwarf events not happening and all the CTers will be laughed at when the real time of danger comes."

It must be real! It must!
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It seems like a lot to go through for the possibility that in a hundred years or so, maybe, just maybe there will be a dwarf star in the neighborhood and people will be crying wolf. Just sayin'.
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Here's the Cliff's Notes version:

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Here's also the long version
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To be employed in government, at the highest level psyops, bare minimum level literacy would suffice, I see. To hell with vocabulary, grammar and punctuation skills. Where do we apply?
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Well even if you're hoax theories are true, there is STILL something coming that is about to astound the world. Something like "two asteroids colliding" or something that threatens earth (but will not hit it), but that will cause great fear.

That will happen regardless of psy-ops or hoaxes. Whether the elite are aware of it or not.
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could u make it a bit shorter- i'm pressed for time
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I agree and I will speak to the OP for you, Luke , I am your Father please tone down and remember your failed attempts will never stop the dark side and us dark lords .
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ill make this as quick as i got about 20 minutes or so. im currently at a very discrete location and im sure i get monitored 24/7 but the person watching me now shouldnt have any idea i am making a communication





heres the truth about elenin. nothing will happen sept 26/27 and elenin is a complete hoax, however its a massive government psi op and im involved at pretty much the highest levels of engineering this thing i wont say how high exactly to protect me but i will say this, the people high up in this psi up are laughing so hard at how easily the CT community is gobbling up these hoaxes

there is a real reason these hoaxes are going on. ill explain the reason soon. but first i will list a bunch of the most popular hoaxes and tell you how its just a hoax

what makes a doom-hoax-theory powerful is it seems like it could be true, and to disprove it you need to know a bit about astronomy or else you get left into the "i dunno, maybe its real" category of hoax believers.

so i will list all the most common hoaxes right now and then the simple science that disproves those hoaxes

keep in mind pretty much all of these hoaxes have been generated at the highest levels of elite new world order cyber-warfare psi-op-creation specialists



1) elenin is a brown dwarf star / black dwarf that reflects no light and can only be seen with powerful infra-red telescopes

the reason this hoax is false is because many people out there might fall into the trap of believing that there could be dwarf stars out there that do not reflect sunlight.

this is simply not true. every object in the universe will reflect sunlight except for black holes. so if something as large as a dwarf star was in our solar system and big enough to cause problems, you bet your behind everyone could see it in the night sky it would be bigger than jupiter

this hoax is easy to disprove and most elenin believers already know this one is false. brown dwarfs and black dwarfs are like very giant versions of jupiter.and will reflect sunlight like jupiter



2) elenin is a highly dense object, possibly a small neutron star

this is the hoax that has been growing recently because the brown dwarf star is so easy to disprove. elenin is obviously not a dwarf star because anyone with slight astronomy knowledge knows it would be visible so close to the sun

a neutron star however is so small in size we wouldnt be able to see it in the sky. neutron stars can be much smaller than the moon but way more massive than our sun

currently one of the biggest hoaxes on elenin is that it is a neutron star that is ~50x the mass of the earth but its so small we cant see it.

this hoax takes care of the "we cant see it" problem of elenin hoaxes but also keeps the "its very massive" part thats needed to make a elenin hoax scary

but this hoax is false and here is why

the only way neutron stars can be created is by huge supernova. a neutron star will always be extremely massive, normally more massive than our sun, because only supernova of extremely massive stars can create a neutron star

neutron stars are such powerful objects of gravity they cant be split apart. once one is created its going to be large and powerful forever unless it falls into a black hole. if a neutron star crashes into our sun it would suck most of it into itself and turn all of the matter into more neutrons

simply put, elenin is not a neutron star. neutron stars can only be extremely massive, they cannot be 50x the mass of earth

because elenin hasnt completely sent the entire orbit of all planets in this solar system into haywire by now, this means elenin cannot be a neutron star. if a neutron star was this close to the sun (elenin is closer than earth) it would have been doomsday months ago




3) elenin is a black hole

this is easy to disprove and its a small popularity hoax at the moment. most people know elenin cant be a black hole because when its been observed by amatuer astronomers you can clearly see it because its reflecting light black holes cannot reflect light, thus elenin is not a black hole



points 1-3 are the only possible ways elenin could be a threat to earth. however, elenin is not a dwarf star, it is not a neutron star, and it is not a black hole. simple science proves that because elenin is not any of those 3 things, it is not a danger to earth.

points 1-3 are the main elenin hoaxes right now that cause people to create their elenin doom beliefs. they need a reason to think elenin is a threat. but even people who have simple science knowledge may fall into the elenin fear trap if they are easily swayed by the following reinforcing psi-ops






4) a 6ton nasa satellite is set to fall into earth late september

this hoax is actually real. but even real hoaxes can still be part of a hoax and be manufactured to get a desired result.

this hoax was generated because a strong belief in elenin doom already exists in many CT'ers, so by manufacturing this event the CT'ers will reinforce their beliefs they already have about elenin doom.

This psi-op will make many CT'ers think to themselves "omg, elenin doom must be real because nasa is doing this satellite drop as a coverup of the real elenin doom that must be coming. omg this proves the elenin doom is real"

these types of hoax/psi-ops are stories / talking points that can be created in order to reinforce the beliefs CT'ers have made on previous psi-ops. so one psi-op will build upon what a previous psi-op has created

the truth is just because nasa is throwing out this 6-ton satellite psi-op that doesnt mean elenin doom is real. the purpose/point of this hoax is to get you to reinforce your belief in elenin doom, and for many CT'ers it is working perfectly and they are just eating this stuff up insantly



5) obama, congress, fema, nasa elites, general society elites, elites of almost all government agencies in america, and almost all royalty and elite in the world have either stated they are going on vacation for late september, or have no plans for late september, or in obama/nasa's case they says they are going to be in denver in late september.

this again is a real hoax but its one of those reinforcing psi-ops that is manufactured in order to build upon what a previous psi-op has created.

the science of elenin explained in points 1-3 show why there is no reason to fear elenin, however even if you are smart enough to know that elenin is no threat, the above reinforcing psi-ops can make even the average intelligent CT'er become afraid of elenin doom













HOWEVER, i will not shy away from the 100% absolute most important reason why elenin doom psi-ops are so powerful right now.

this is the reason every elenin believer is not feeling right about elenin. because thousands of people have already died and many think elenin is partly to blame for these deaths

i speak of course of the chile / new zealong / japan earthquakes.

All 3 of these powerful earthquakes occured within 7 days of a elenin alignment with the earth/sun if you look at the overhead view of JPL.

this are REAL EVENTS. with THOUSANDs of REAL PEOPLE dying. i understand how powerful elenin psi ops are because thousands of real people have already died

however im just here to explain whats going on for people that want to know

the new world order does have systems that can create earthquakes. i understand slightly how they work. haarp isnt even the main system i dont know where the other systems are but i know they exist

the way these systems work is as time passes the earths continents/crust will store pressure and energy and the release of this energy causes earthquakes and its completely natural. the earthquake that happened in japan was a forced hyper natural event. The haarp systems were fired up and caused most of the energy/pressure to be released which caused the japan earthquake.

however the way these systems work is they cannot create earthquakes, they only release the pressure that is already there which would have been naturally released eventually. what this means is the haarp systems cannot create massive earthquakes in japan every week. the system is only able to release natural energy that is already there and is created naturally by the earth. the system cannot create new earthquakes on the spot. and the system cant be used to blow up yellowstone either thats out of its ability.

thats pretty much all i know about these systems. i dont have anything to do with the haarp systems i just know they release energy thats already there, but they are unable to create new energy for new earthquakes. back to elenin


but heres what you will be glad to here. the haarp systems will not be fired up in late september, or even this year or next year.

the high up plan as far as psi-ops go is to create massive hype for this september 26 date and then laugh at the CT'ers as nothing happens

but i still dont know WHY THE HELL the elite had to kill thousands of people by firing up these haarp systems and creating earthquakes on elenin alignments

i honestly dont know. im told to do my job and shut up. i personally see no reason why so many people need to die in order for the goal to be achieved


i guess elenin fear wouldnt be at the level they are right now if those earthquakes/tsunami didnt happen... but still... all that killing just to create a psi-op? it seems to extreme

the plan of the elite was to generate MASSIVE FEAR in the CT'ers with this elenin stuff, and now as we appraoch the 26th of september for the final alignment and nothjing happens the CT'ers will have been afraid and then their reinforced beliefs that they had will be crushed

that is essentially, "the goal" as we have been told

now i dont know why so many people needed to die for "the goal" but i do know why "the goal" exists



theres 2 things that i have to explain that many wont believe but it doesnt really matter

elite space program scientists have found that there is a very far out dwarf star orbiting the sun, but we have no idea what its orbital calculations are like because its so far away. we dont know if the dwarf star comes further than saturn or further than jupiter or further than mars. we have no idea.

The dark overlords wont tell us anything about the dwarf star. however it probably wont be here for 100+ years the observers are concluding, and "the plan" is to keep creating psi-ops of dwarf events so when the real one comes no one will believe it because everyone will be laughing at previous dwarf events not happening and all the CTers will be laughed at when the real time of danger comes.

thats assuming there even is a time of danger, as we actually have no idea whether or not this dwarf star comes close to earth because the dark overlords wont tell us anything about it. they dont care about earth, they dont care about giving us advice, they just want fear to be created and are somehow making a deal with the new world order to get what they want.



ive never seen a dark overlord and i dont know what they are i have just heard little about them, some say they are aliens or "something else" but they have some kind of deal with the elite and they are giving something (i dont know what it is) to the elite and in return the elite does what they want. and for some reason, what the dark overlords want is fear to be created. but not any kind of fear, their favorite fear is fear that is created in the minds of the most mentally strong individuals, or the CT'ers as we call them.

now the new world order certainly isnt only creating "fake fear" for the ct'ers. the NWO is doing plenty of real things to scare a CT'er as well. the new world order is waging many wars killing millions of innocent people in the middle east and blowing up 2 giant buildings cinema-style in front of world television on 9/11 and showing the CT'ers they have the power to do that and nothing can stop them, and setting up massive nazi-style holocaust preperations in the united states and creating huge tyranny grids in the US and many people are scared they might end up homeless with no money.

there certainly are many real things for the CT'ers to fear in this world, however i dont work in that area i work in psi-ops which is what we in the practice consider to be forms of "fake fear". and from what i hear the dark overlords absolutely love the type of fear that is being created by this elenin stuff and thats why they want more and more of it. this thing is ramping up so much in the past few weeks. thats why nearly every world elite is going to denver, in order to ramp up the elenin fear so much more

and its not just the fear that they like. im told that another emotion the dark overlords like to create is whats been described as "the feeling of crushed beliefs". many CT'ers have a belief that the elenin doom is real, and all these signs are reinforcing their beliefs, and when nothing happens on the next elenin alignment the ct'ers will all have crushed beliefs.


i honestly dont know what the fukk the purpose/point to all of this is.... i believe in god but i have my own religious ideas and i think concepts of "hell" and "heaven" are way too linear for my tastes... anyway the reason im writing this is because i feel in my heart this fear is going way too far and i ive always been a person of impulses to an extent and i feel an impulse to explain whats going on to anyone wondering wtf is going on


so for anyone out there with a little bit of scientific knowledge, im just saying read points 1-3 which is absolute proof that elenin is no threat.

you know that scientifically, elenin cannot be a threat. BUT you also know having 3 major earthquakes happening on all 3 alignments is too much of a coincidence. im here to say yes you are right it is too much of a coincidence but dont let your emotions fool your logic. you know logically there is no way elenin can be a threat, so dont fear it. logic should always destroy fear.
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pretty good post, but haarp can't assist the natural earthquake. Japan was completely natural and on it's on time. I will recommend a pin. I have been rather disappointed in the "CT's" myself, for seeing the psyops on tv but not on the internet. the internet is a great place for the thugs to play and they are playing with you.
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Dark Overlords LOL!
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that is true. christians like to give them one name, satan. most are removed which is why op makes the statement that the ones on the ground are minus their heads and runny amoke.
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Dang he typed all that BS in 20 minutes
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the only bs I saw in it was that Japan quake was influenced, and maybe haarp was involved.
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A few days ago I kinda sussed this out for myself. Nice to see someone else either factually or fictionally get there as well.

If Elenin does turn out to be BS, it has been so convincing that I will never believe in another conspiracy like it again. I'l probably even abandon Godlike so as to not be tempted. I have a very high IQ (I'm not bragging, I think I'm an idiot, it's just what the tests say), I never blindly follow and I don't trust the media. If there's a term for me, CT is it.

This Elenin thing has had a tremendous effect on my life. I trust no one, believe nothing, everything is gray area, politicians are all shit, so is the media, everyone on the internet is a retard - honestly, all this has a) prepared me to be on my own and b) removed any and all faith I had in humanity. While I hope none of it pans out, it's been devastating to my psyche.
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the whole elenin was never believable from day one. pysop screamed of the story and I am disappointed in the "CT'" here, hugely so. You can and should do better. Hopefully there has been a lesson learned.

Now lets see if you can over come Nibiru too. Thread: Nibiru is not here plus an archive of my posts.
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No caps and periods give you away Idiot!


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hey i dont use caps!!! but i do use punctuation.

eh, i feel like the op is a psiop just having a go at glpers.
Awww, damn it. It was a great quote too.

Conversation NOT Confrontation
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A few days ago I kinda sussed this out for myself. Nice to see someone else either factually or fictionally get there as well.

If Elenin does turn out to be BS, it has been so convincing that I will never believe in another conspiracy like it again. I'l probably even abandon Godlike so as to not be tempted. I have a very high IQ (I'm not bragging, I think I'm an idiot, it's just what the tests say), I never blindly follow and I don't trust the media. If there's a term for me, CT is it.

This Elenin thing has had a tremendous effect on my life. I trust no one, believe nothing, everything is gray area, politicians are all shit, so is the media, everyone on the internet is a retard - honestly, all this has a) prepared me to be on my own and b) removed any and all faith I had in humanity. While I hope none of it pans out, it's been devastating to my psyche.
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Sorry it's affected you that way. I guess I just blindly put my faith in God and when he's ready to take me, I'm ready to go.
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ill make this as quick as i got about 20 minutes or so. im currently at a very discrete location and im sure i get monitored 24/7 but the person watching me now shouldnt have any idea i am making a communication


Op, either you are a bot, not real, or someone is behind this communication that has too many things not right with it.
I. if monitored 24/7...then you are monitored 24/7.
1. you say you have 20 minutes of so, for the one watching to not know you are communicating...hmm...then that sounds like monitory 23hrs40minutes/7 and not 24/7.

A case is as strong as it's weakest link. Your case fails.

I don't think Elenin is a big deal because that's what I want to think for me. Even if it's a big deal to some and is an (E)xtention (L)evel (E)vent - ELE ; well I want to think that someone was around to draw pictures on rocks and in caves to tell the rest of us that they had advanced civilizations and something from the sky took them back to cave man days.

I want to see the movie coming out 11.11.11 called Underworld, so I don't want to think ELE is a big deal.

I want to so much more that I can't sit here and expect the program to just end...it's like an abrupt ending to a song and you are like "That's the end?"...remember Janet Jackson's song 'If'...it just ended abruptly and it was rumored on first recording when it stopped abruptly she said that, and they made it part of the song.

Anyway OP..it wasn't even entertaining but maybe it will make people rethink what 'lie' they want to be.lie.ve in.

Also calling someone a CT means nothing to me. I AM that I AM. On any given day I AM delightful. I AM excited. In your case I AM a CT, in another place I AM a customer.

Gives no clout to the post just by calling someone a 'term'. I think 'useless eaters' was one used by some thinking they were in power and 'sheeple' we've taken to very well here when describing people who move like a bunch of sheep following a leader. Someone said a bunch of sheep will follow a goat with a bell straight into hell. CT gives no credibility.

You seemed to have chosen your life, holed up in a place where someone is a 'God' before you and decides what you can or can't do. Seems we have a little more freedom to post on GLP than you do.

Thanks for the supposed heads up, but so much is 'distorted' in your communication that it's 'unbe - l.i.e - vable'. Seriously.

Also, you can learn to use the computer better, like you can open a Notepad or Wordpad (rtf) and type and edit your document and in your 20 minutes of not being monitored you can have copied and pasted your notice in seconds into GLP and have all the punctuation and capitalizations in place. If you are a bot, then the bot programmer needs to add these features to the program.
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2,695 words / so minutes = 135 words a minute.
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I agree with this statement 100%

"when the real one comes no one will believe it because everyone will be laughing at previous dwarf events not happening and all the CTers will be laughed at when the real time of danger comes."

It must be real! It must!
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I must be the dumbest guy here, every since y2k, I have thought that was a psyop for something bigger coming, so no one would believe it.

When one steps out from the yoke of Christianity, one learns the g-ds of old were actually planets, and much has been written about this planet of the crossing, and "g-d" coming back, etc.

Really sounds like the same shit to me, if not now, when.
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ill make this as quick as i got about 20 minutes or so. im currently at a very discrete location and im sure i get monitored 24/7 but the person watching me now shouldnt have any idea i am making a communication


first i must say that in the disinformation / psi-op teams we have a word for people who are smart/awake/aware. we call these people CT'ers. the broad definition of a CT'er is simply someone who doesnt blindly follow what society tells him to follow, and most CTers have gotten to the point where they are sure almost everything the media tells them is some form of attempted mind-control because secret powers must be controlling the the governments and societies of the world behind the scenes for their own interest and not the interest of the general population while creating an illusion of free/representative government so the masses never feel like they are living in a tyranny


heres the truth about elenin. nothing will happen sept 26/27 and elenin is a complete hoax, however its a massive government psi op and im involved at pretty much the highest levels of engineering this thing i wont say how high exactly to protect me but i will say this, the people high up in this psi up are laughing so hard at how easily the CT community is gobbling up these hoaxes

there is a real reason these hoaxes are going on. ill explain the reason soon. but first i will list a bunch of the most popular hoaxes and tell you how its just a hoax

what makes a doom-hoax-theory powerful is it seems like it could be true, and to disprove it you need to know a bit about astronomy or else you get left into the "i dunno, maybe its real" category of hoax believers.

so i will list all the most common hoaxes right now and then the simple science that disproves those hoaxes

keep in mind pretty much all of these hoaxes have been generated at the highest levels of elite new world order cyber-warfare psi-op-creation specialists



1) elenin is a brown dwarf star / black dwarf that reflects no light and can only be seen with powerful infra-red telescopes

the reason this hoax is false is because many people out there might fall into the trap of believing that there could be dwarf stars out there that do not reflect sunlight.

this is simply not true. every object in the universe will reflect sunlight except for black holes. so if something as large as a dwarf star was in our solar system and big enough to cause problems, you bet your behind everyone could see it in the night sky it would be bigger than jupiter

this hoax is easy to disprove and most elenin believers already know this one is false. brown dwarfs and black dwarfs are like very giant versions of jupiter.and will reflect sunlight like jupiter



2) elenin is a highly dense object, possibly a small neutron star

this is the hoax that has been growing recently because the brown dwarf star is so easy to disprove. elenin is obviously not a dwarf star because anyone with slight astronomy knowledge knows it would be visible so close to the sun

a neutron star however is so small in size we wouldnt be able to see it in the sky. neutron stars can be much smaller than the moon but way more massive than our sun

currently one of the biggest hoaxes on elenin is that it is a neutron star that is ~50x the mass of the earth but its so small we cant see it.

this hoax takes care of the "we cant see it" problem of elenin hoaxes but also keeps the "its very massive" part thats needed to make a elenin hoax scary

but this hoax is false and here is why

the only way neutron stars can be created is by huge supernova. a neutron star will always be extremely massive, normally more massive than our sun, because only supernova of extremely massive stars can create a neutron star

neutron stars are such powerful objects of gravity they cant be split apart. once one is created its going to be large and powerful forever unless it falls into a black hole. if a neutron star crashes into our sun it would suck most of it into itself and turn all of the matter into more neutrons

simply put, elenin is not a neutron star. neutron stars can only be extremely massive, they cannot be 50x the mass of earth

because elenin hasnt completely sent the entire orbit of all planets in this solar system into haywire by now, this means elenin cannot be a neutron star. if a neutron star was this close to the sun (elenin is closer than earth) it would have been doomsday months ago


3) elenin is a black hole

this is easy to disprove and its a small popularity hoax at the moment. most people know elenin cant be a black hole because when its been observed by amatuer astronomers you can clearly see it because its reflecting light black holes cannot reflect light, thus elenin is not a black hole



points 1-3 are the only possible ways elenin could be a threat to earth. however, elenin is not a dwarf star, it is not a neutron star, and it is not a black hole. simple science proves that because elenin is not any of those 3 things, it is not a danger to earth.

points 1-3 are the main elenin hoaxes right now that cause people to create their elenin doom beliefs. they need a reason to think elenin is a threat. but even people who have simple science knowledge may fall into the elenin fear trap if they are easily swayed by the following reinforcing psi-ops


these types of hoax/psi-ops are stories / talking points that can be created in order to reinforce the beliefs CT'ers have made on previous psi-ops. so one psi-op will build upon what a previous psi-op has created

the truth is just because nasa is throwing out this 6-ton satellite psi-op that doesnt mean elenin doom is real. the purpose/point of this hoax is to get you to reinforce your belief in elenin doom, and for many CT'ers it is working perfectly and they are just eating this stuff up insantly



5) obama, congress, fema, nasa elites, general society elites, elites of almost all government agencies in america, and almost all royalty and elite in the world have either stated they are going on vacation for late september, or have no plans for late september, or in obama/nasa's case they says they are going to be in denver in late september.

this again is a real hoax but its one of those reinforcing psi-ops that is manufactured in order to build upon what a previous psi-op has created.

the science of elenin explained in points 1-3 show why there is no reason to fear elenin, however even if you are smart enough to know that elenin is no threat, the above reinforcing psi-ops can make even the average intelligent CT'er become afraid of elenin doom



HOWEVER, i will not shy away from the 100% absolute most important reason why elenin doom psi-ops are so powerful right now.

this is the reason every elenin believer is not feeling right about elenin. because thousands of people have already died and many think elenin is partly to blame for these deaths

i speak of course of the chile / new zealong / japan earthquakes.

All 3 of these powerful earthquakes occured within 7 days of a elenin alignment with the earth/sun if you look at the overhead view of JPL.

this are REAL EVENTS. with THOUSANDs of REAL PEOPLE dying. i understand how powerful elenin psi ops are because thousands of real people have already died

however im just here to explain whats going on for people that want to know

the new world order does have systems that can create earthquakes. i understand slightly how they work. haarp isnt even the main system i dont know where the other systems are but i know they exist

the way these systems work is as time passes the earths continents/crust will store pressure and energy and the release of this energy causes earthquakes and its completely natural. the earthquake that happened in japan was a forced hyper natural event. The haarp systems were fired up and caused most of the energy/pressure to be released which caused the japan earthquake.

however the way these systems work is they cannot create earthquakes, they only release the pressure that is already there which would have been naturally released eventually. what this means is the haarp systems cannot create massive earthquakes in japan every week. the system is only able to release natural energy that is already there and is created naturally by the earth. the system cannot create new earthquakes on the spot. and the system cant be used to blow up yellowstone either thats out of its ability.

thats pretty much all i know about these systems. i dont have anything to do with the haarp systems i just know they release energy thats already there, but they are unable to create new energy for new earthquakes. back to elenin


but heres what you will be glad to here. the haarp systems will not be fired up in late september, or even this year or next year.

the high up plan as far as psi-ops go is to create massive hype for this september 26 date and then laugh at the CT'ers as nothing happens

but i still dont know WHY THE HELL the elite had to kill thousands of people by firing up these haarp systems and creating earthquakes on elenin alignments

i honestly dont know. im told to do my job and shut up. i personally see no reason why so many people need to die in order for the goal to be achieved


i guess elenin fear wouldnt be at the level they are right now if those earthquakes/tsunami didnt happen... but still... all that killing just to create a psi-op? it seems to extreme

the plan of the elite was to generate MASSIVE FEAR in the CT'ers with this elenin stuff, and now as we appraoch the 26th of september for the final alignment and nothjing happens the CT'ers will have been afraid and then their reinforced beliefs that they had will be crushed

that is essentially, "the goal" as we have been told

now i dont know why so many people needed to die for "the goal" but i do know why "the goal" exists



theres 2 things that i have to explain that many wont believe but it doesnt really matter

elite space program scientists have found that there is a very far out dwarf star orbiting the sun, but we have no idea what its orbital calculations are like because its so far away. we dont know if the dwarf star comes further than saturn or further than jupiter or further than mars. we have no idea.

The dark overlords wont tell us anything about the dwarf star. however it probably wont be here for 100+ years the observers are concluding, and "the plan" is to keep creating psi-ops of dwarf events so when the real one comes no one will believe it because everyone will be laughing at previous dwarf events not happening and all the CTers will be laughed at when the real time of danger comes.

thats assuming there even is a time of danger, as we actually have no idea whether or not this dwarf star comes close to earth because the dark overlords wont tell us anything about it. they dont care about earth, they dont care about giving us advice, they just want fear to be created and are somehow making a deal with the new world order to get what they want.

ive never seen a dark overlord and i dont know what they are i have just heard little about them, some say they are aliens or "something else" but they have some kind of deal with the elite and they are giving something (i dont know what it is) to the elite and in return the elite does what they want. and for some reason, what the dark overlords want is fear to be created. but not any kind of fear, their favorite fear is fear that is created in the minds of the most mentally strong individuals, or the CT'ers as we call them.

now the new world order certainly isnt only creating "fake fear" for the ct'ers. the NWO is doing plenty of real things to scare a CT'er as well. the new world order is waging many wars killing millions of innocent people in the middle east and blowing up 2 giant buildings cinema-style in front of world television on 9/11 and showing the CT'ers they have the power to do that and nothing can stop them, and setting up massive nazi-style holocaust preperations in the united states and creating huge tyranny grids in the US and many people are scared they might end up homeless with no money.

there certainly are many real things for the CT'ers to fear in this world, however i dont work in that area i work in psi-ops which is what we in the practice consider to be forms of "fake fear". and from what i hear the dark overlords absolutely love the type of fear that is being created by this elenin stuff and thats why they want more and more of it. this thing is ramping up so much in the past few weeks. thats why nearly every world elite is going to denver, in order to ramp up the elenin fear so much more

i honestly dont know what the fukk the purpose/point to all of this is.... i believe in god but i have my own religious ideas and i think concepts of "hell" and "heaven" are way too linear for my tastes... anyway the reason im writing this is because i feel in my heart this fear is going way too far and i ive always been a person of impulses to an extent and i feel an impulse to explain whats going on to anyone wondering wtf is going on


so for anyone out there with a little bit of scientific knowledge, im just saying read points 1-3 which is absolute proof that elenin is no threat.

you know that scientifically, elenin cannot be a threat. BUT you also know having 3 major earthquakes happening on all 3 alignments is too much of a coincidence. im here to say yes you are right it is too much of a coincidence but dont let your emotions fool your logic. you know logically there is no way elenin can be a threat, so dont fear it. logic should always destroy fear.
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and i though I wrote long winded posts... heheh

But I hope you, just like the fool DAVID MORONISON, are hung up by your ballsack in public view when the events you claim won't happen, begin happening as they already are, because wow, do you got balls.

You're either a classic shill, or in total denial.

i'd say you're ignorant, but i'll give you credit that you have to have a higher level of intelligence to post a ballsy post like this.

As to ELENIN, its as REAL as DAVID MORONISSON said it was FAKE and NON EVENT, NOTHING CATACLYSMIC WOULD HAPPEN around 3/11/11.

The MORON is a complete and utter buffoon for all the world to laugh at.

But first off, aside from the coincidences that have surrounded ELENIN over the past year which exceed perhaps the most amazing sets in the history of the world, the evidence and facts that there's a relatioinship between ALIGNMENTS alone with MOST LARGE QUAKES, is more and more undeniable and irrefutable every week, let alone that its never been proven false.
But the coincidences we're seeing with ELENIN go far beyond the ability of some hob nob NWO elitists in silly little secret societies playing with powers they don't understand are not possible for such low level entities to PRODUCE and engineer, its laughable that you'd even attempt to insinuate your mortal friends control that realm of the MATRIX.

Now your haarp argument on the other hand, is excellent, i'll give you that, but I'll give you that up until you can show how HAARP had anything to do with quakes before it EXISTED not to mention your CONSPIRACY THEORY is quite arrogant that it can account for EVERY MAJOR QUAKE that has somewhat of an AVERAGE pattern monthly. However for those who post public predictions or warnings, to state specific dates, sizes and locations repeatedly for large quakes to hit, still challenges the bs arguments that "quakes happen all the time" crap.

As to you being an "insider" .. whoopie effin doo

and i'm AL PACINO

SAY HELLO TO MY LITTLE FRIEND

the script you've posted is classic disinfo and shillery that would be a best seller if you got one of your inside sources to let steven spielberg or GEORGE LUCAS know.. who are themselves investing in bunkers right now which I know because of my inside sources fighting on the other side of the reptilan illuminati DUMBS.

So unless you can do more to prove what you're saying, and prove what you're saying is false or just a psyop, thanks for your contribution to nothing…. or more specifically, nothing more than hearsay and opinions.

Then you go on to make a statement like this:

elite space program scientists have found that there is a very far out dwarf star orbiting the sun, but we have no idea what its orbital calculations are like because its so far away. we dont know if the dwarf star comes further than saturn or further than jupiter or further than mars. we have no idea.

after just telling everyone how sure you are there's nothing nefarious going on and you've got it all figured out, including how the universe works, then you contradict that notion by admitting SCIENTISTS HAVE NO IDEA WHAT THE ORBITAL CALCULATIONS ARE of an object you just claimed TO KNOW EXISTS that FAR OUT, but for some reason we're able to FIND SUCH AN OBJECT YOU CLAIM IS SO ELUSIVE, but don't have the technology to give any more details on?

Hahaha

I'd keep going showing you why your final assertion how ELENIN IS NO THREAT being even more IDIOTIC AND IGNORANT than DAVID MORONISSON, but i don't I think i really need to at this point, so hope you enjoy all the catastrophic events about to occur within the next 3 to 6 months and you can come back and tell everyone how HAARP had the energy to terraform the planet.

your psI-op jus lost all its PSI

lol

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The 26 of september is my uncles birthday.
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THIS THREAD IS A PSY OP!bsflag
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Whew! I'm glad you didn't give us the long version.
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SHILLS in record numbers WOW. OP is onto something.
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Maybe, just MAYBE, you could account for the lack of caps and punctuation if the OP was composed on a smart phone keyboard.

But if that's the case, and he did in fact type all that in 20 minutes, then I'd recommend a soothing ointment and an icepack for his thumb joints!

Thus, an interesting read, but a role-play nonetheless.
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"OP" You were not convincing in the least bit! That story of yours makes no since! All this psy-op for something that may or may not happen in 100years... LOL You just raped my brain for having me read this retard shit! I feel violatedstfu
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I don't know how many of you are actually scared by all these doom scenarios, I myself am not. I'm just curious to see if any predictions turn out to be true, that's all, just curiosity and the fun of reading all these bizarre theories, no fear at all. Is there really a GLP user who reads on for being in fear all the time? So, time will tell, also with Elening. However, I will be watching the alignment dates, just for "fun"...
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I think OP is really the proverbial room full of monkeys typing at their typewriters in a basement somewhere under Langley. The true psy-ops writers are all chimps.
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