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Unemployed now being given Starvation Rations in UK

 
Anonymous Coward
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09/18/2011 07:05 PM
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Yes, you need to be referred by the dole office or some other agency that operates with an official stamp of approval.
 Quoting: jannerfish


Same here in Australia. Our government no longer pays welfare recipients enough to survive, but are happy to print out a referral to get help from a privately funded charity.

The 'Job Centres' here are also being given extra powers to cut off your payments, organise medical treatment if you claim you are too sick to work and send you off for 'work conditioning' (free labour force).

However, it was demonstrated to our government many years ago that these privately owned job centres are all corrupt, rorting the system and since they get paid in advance of doing their job, don't bother to do it once they have the money in the bank.

Most of the unemployed would actually prefer to have a real job, than to have to line up for referrals to a soup kitchen. Yet our government is currently indulging in a media campaign which brands every welfare recipient in this country 'a lazy bludger who has no intention to work', even if you happen to be dying of cancer in reality.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1550408


Its called divide and conquer.unfortunately it works like a damn.you can see it in this thread.
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09/18/2011 07:09 PM
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Near xmas time you'll see how pissed off the people are, there will be lots of suicides, burglaries, lootings, protests, desperate behaviors, anger and violence, frozen corps on the streets, see how lately an handful of idiots brought many to steal TV sets and other useless non vital shits, formated consumers are made to consume whatever it takes, dark times ahead.
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09/18/2011 07:11 PM
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The only problem I really have with this is that they are using Christian charities. Not that there are many secular charities in the UK.

To the people who'll scream "Socialism" at this, I'd rather pay slightly higher taxes and have this happen than have people stealing food all over the place.
 Quoting: Lime Flavoured Redux


What amount would you consider "slightly higher"?
Lime Flavoured Redux

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09/18/2011 07:12 PM
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The only problem I really have with this is that they are using Christian charities. Not that there are many secular charities in the UK.

To the people who'll scream "Socialism" at this, I'd rather pay slightly higher taxes and have this happen than have people stealing food all over the place.
 Quoting: Lime Flavoured Redux


What amount would you consider "slightly higher"?
 Quoting: LunaticFringe


It depends. The lower rate of income tax is currently 20%, it was 22% at some point, that seems about right although the government would be asking for trouble if they raised it now lol.
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09/18/2011 07:16 PM
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This is just par for the course in the USA. Especially if you live in Texas. If you are an adult with no kids you can not get any assistance whatsoever other than what food banks will help you out with. Even if getting medical assistance would help you to be able to work when you otherwise cannot, your just SOL. I happened to live in an area with a very well run food bank, that also helps people who want to work but can't. I worked in a program where they pay you by the peice to sew costumes for a costume shop. That only worked out to about $1.00 an hour for me, but the people who ran the program knew I was making an effort and were very generous with food assistance as a result. I was fortunate to live in a county where the local food bank had such a helpful program. Not all of them do.
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09/18/2011 07:21 PM
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have they resorted to eating the bankers and leaders who destroyed the economy with wars and giving the peoples money to the ultra-rich? maybe not hungry enuf yet. need to starve some more.
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09/18/2011 07:21 PM
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You call this disgusting and yet I bet UK benefits are still considerably more generous than the American programs that most GLPers hate and call communism. Fuckheads.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1554926


In the US you can get food stamps very easily and you get enough "stamps" to buy anything and everything you could eat. Its more than enough.
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09/18/2011 07:22 PM

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The part I don't understand is why people except such treatment?yoda
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1498907


What can they do about it? They are a minority. In Britain, it's always a case of 'I'm alright, Jack!'. The comfortable majority don't give a fuck about the unemployed, don't even know they exist.
At the turn of the 20th century, about 1900, the average Brit had a life expectancy of 45. It seems today that Cameron the Cunt is trying to turn the clock back, is already forcing deprived people onto the streets, making life for them as hard as he feels these 'wasters' deserve.
 Quoting: mclinking 1519908



"I got mine Jack, to hell with you". That's how it is here too. Very Cruel. Very Cruel.
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09/18/2011 07:22 PM
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Disgusting government & society:

[link to www.independent.co.uk]
 Quoting: Blockhead2


Only a fing loser would accept gov assistance. Be a real man.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1343978


Wait til you lose your job or health. You will be the first cry baby in line for a handout. Hypocrites.
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09/18/2011 07:25 PM
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The money spent by the govt during and after the riots on security and repairs could have bought a lot of food...

Well anyone who repairs glass on storefronts should be contributing taxes on all their sales....
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09/18/2011 07:27 PM
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Part of the contract of living in society, following the laws and the rules and doing your part. Is that the system therefore offers you fair compensation for your efforts and because we are civilized we take care of those who can't take care of themselves. The dependency works both ways. The government and the elite feed off us and we feed off them. In return we don't cause trouble.hf
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09/18/2011 07:30 PM
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But today the Goverment announce they are recruiting 2000 more staff to become "Tax Inspectors" to inspect the "rich"

What a joke this goverment really is when they know who the rich are already & most of the rich are keeping the goverment in power.
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09/18/2011 07:31 PM
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But today the Goverment announce they are recruiting 2000 more staff to become "Tax Inspectors" to inspect the "rich"

What a joke this goverment really is when they know who the rich are already & most of the rich are keeping the goverment in power.
 Quoting: Lofty


You don't expect the p.m. to come and rob the productive himself do you?

That would be poor form, for sure.
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09/18/2011 07:33 PM
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but yet your worshipped royals live high on the hog, off the backs of the british and the common-wealth

f..ing disgusting
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09/18/2011 07:34 PM
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You call this disgusting and yet I bet UK benefits are still considerably more generous than the American programs that most GLPers hate and call communism. Fuckheads.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1554926


In the US you can get food stamps very easily and you get enough "stamps" to buy anything and everything you could eat. Its more than enough.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1554244


Where do you live?
While I was looking for a job and my husband was working a barely minimum wage job, we got $140 for the whole month.
After I found work we lost them.
They were not so "easy" to get either.
If you have a bunch of kids though and don't work you'll get all the help you need.
I knew one person who had 4 kids and got almost $600 a month in just food stamps.
If you work you won't hardly get shit.
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but yet your worshipped royals live high on the hog, off the backs of the british and the common-wealth

f..ing disgusting
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1555498


For sure. The cost of that wedding could've bought a lot of food for the underprivileged in Britain...

The royals care...they really do.
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Re: Unemployed now being given Starvation Rations in UK
You call this disgusting and yet I bet UK benefits are still considerably more generous than the American programs that most GLPers hate and call communism. Fuckheads.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1554926


In the US you can get food stamps very easily and you get enough "stamps" to buy anything and everything you could eat. Its more than enough.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1554244



Not in Texas. Food Stamp availability apparently varies from state to state. If you live in Texas, and are an adult with no kids, you can get 3 months of food stamps like once every 5 years or so. Other than that, you get no help at all. I had foot as well as arm problems (due to issues with my back). With no job, I had no way to pay for a foot doctor. I would have been thrilled to just be able to wait tables part-time. Medicaid required you to go to a doctor before they would assist you with medical bills...which of course you can't afford if you can't work. The Disability Assistance people said they wouldn't help with medical rehab because I was too depressed. (Like..NO SHIT SHERLOCK! Being depressed when you are f-ing broke and can't work is NORMAL IMHO!)
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09/18/2011 07:38 PM
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Re: Unemployed now being given Starvation Rations in UK
Oh honey! The Brits think that we Americans get $1500.00 per child here!
BS! Tell them, I don't know of any government Social Services program that lets a single mother receive $1500.00 per child.
There is not such thing. If that were the case nobody would be working at all. Both men and women would sit on their asses all day doing nothing but collecting a huge check.
But no, Brits and Europeans, your information is wrong again!
Single mothers here in America do not get $1500.00 fro welfare per child.
Middle class Americans Might receive $1500.00 per child as a tax credit. but not for m the welfare program!
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09/18/2011 07:51 PM
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When I visited Peru, I saw parents laboring in their fields while children grazed the pigs, goats, sheep, cows, chickens, etc on the public right of ways with cars and busses whizzing by. No one was stealing for food or hoping for a government handout. They were resourceful and hard working and at the end of the day, they had food in their stomachs. Not ideal to see people have to live this way, but they seemed very content and well adjusted despite the lack of electricity, telephones, etc. Healthier than most "westerners" as well.

Most persons that have visited "3rd World" countries where people still are in touch with the land and each other are changed forever. Re-orders the priorities. The problem now is that few persons have the knowledge or resources (land, seeds or livestock) to begin living a simpler life even if they wanted to.
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09/18/2011 07:59 PM
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Dont you guys have a program similar to the food stamp program in the US or is this the alternative?
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09/18/2011 07:59 PM
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You need to finish the sentence in order to be accurate:

Unemployed now being given Starvation Rations in UK by Stealing from Dwindling Employed
 Quoting: WalkersEverywhere



Whatcha' packin' there chief? Oh I see, it's hate.
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09/18/2011 08:04 PM
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In the US/UK there is the top 10% and everyone else. Their slaves.They are slaves in many different ways and means. The sooner you accept your fate slave the easier your life will be. Get it? Good.
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Limited to 3 parcels of food, enough for 9 days.

9 days worth of food per person?

Oh well, your poor and unemployed won't last long.


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Re: Unemployed now being given Starvation Rations in UK
Yes, you need to be referred by the dole office or some other agency that operates with an official stamp of approval.
 Quoting: jannerfish


Same here in Australia. Our government no longer pays welfare recipients enough to survive, but are happy to print out a referral to get help from a privately funded charity.

The 'Job Centres' here are also being given extra powers to cut off your payments, organise medical treatment if you claim you are too sick to work and send you off for 'work conditioning' (free labour force).

However, it was demonstrated to our government many years ago that these privately owned job centres are all corrupt, rorting the system and since they get paid in advance of doing their job, don't bother to do it once they have the money in the bank.

Most of the unemployed would actually prefer to have a real job, than to have to line up for referrals to a soup kitchen. Yet our government is currently indulging in a media campaign which brands every welfare recipient in this country 'a lazy bludger who has no intention to work', even if you happen to be dying of cancer in reality.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1550408


Its called divide and conquer.unfortunately it works like a damn.you can see it in this thread.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1497713




It's called SOCIALISM. You get what you vote for. You blokes asked for it, you got it... Toyota.

Crawl back into government's womb and this is what you'll get. ENJOY, mother fuckers!
Anonymous Coward
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09/18/2011 08:05 PM
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This is what happens when you voluntarily de-industrialise and have nothing as a replacement.
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The part I don't understand is why people except such treatment?yoda
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1498907


25 MILLION in the US unemployed or underemployed. If you have a job you are damn lucky and count your blessings. If you aren't planning on losing your job, you are STUPID! Have that one year plan in place because if you lose your job...it's going to be hell finding another one. [link to americancenturyblog.com (secure)]
Energy goes where the focus is....where are you putting the focus in your life?
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09/18/2011 08:08 PM
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Disgusting government & society:

[link to www.independent.co.uk]
 Quoting: Blockhead2


you think they should not get these?
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Disgusting government & society:

[link to www.independent.co.uk]
 Quoting: Blockhead2


Only a fing loser would accept gov assistance. Be a real man.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1343978


Wait til you lose your job or health. You will be the first cry baby in line for a handout. Hypocrites.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1064657


Hey, America voted to fuck the rich. America voted to fuck business owners. So, you got it. Now enjoy!

I don't know how much pain it will take before people WAKE THE FUCK UP and realize that it's not possible to fuck the rich, or business. When they start to feel fucked, they pull in and stop investing, and stop spending. When business gets fucked, they start laying off the deadwood in the shop.

So, how do you like your wonderful socialist ideas now? Hmmmmmmmmm?????

Morans!
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Re: Unemployed now being given Starvation Rations in UK
Give them two acres, some seed and be done with it.
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Re: Unemployed now being given Starvation Rations in UK
What nobody understands is, this is people who turn up at the benefits office having spent their benefits and now seeking a loan. Sometimes they are told 'no'.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1461473


You can't apply for hardship payments unless your normal payment hasn't been made for some reason. Not normally a problem unless you don't turn up for something they want you to go to. Or don't get there on time to sign on and stuff like that.

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