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OMFG!!! The Abomination that maketh desolate is the creation of the Palestinian state!!!

 
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OMFG!!! The Abomination that maketh desolate is the creation of the Palestinian state!!!
we are living in prophetic times, people. Wake the fuck up!
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here is where we are in biblical time line:

Dan 11:31 And arms shall stand on his part, and they shall pollute the sanctuary of strength, and shall take away the daily [sacrifice], and they shall place the abomination that maketh desolate.
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The Abomination that maketh desolate is the creation of the Palestinian state!!!
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Um, nope: it isn't.
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Re: OMFG!!! The Abomination that maketh desolate is the creation of the Palestinian state!!!
here is where we are in biblical time line:

Dan 11:31 And arms shall stand on his part, and they shall pollute the sanctuary of strength, and shall take away the daily [sacrifice], and they shall place the abomination that maketh desolate.
 Quoting: Bel Z. Bug


There is no REAL Israelite Temple or Sancturay there to make daily sacrifices in. So what the heck are you talking about?
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Re: OMFG!!! The Abomination that maketh desolate is the creation of the Palestinian state!!!
Actually it's the Khazarian persecution of the real children of Abraham - the Christians, Muslims and Mizrahi jewish people who lived in Palestine before the Ashkenazi fake jewish people took over.
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here is where we are in biblical time line:

Dan 11:31 And arms shall stand on his part, and they shall pollute the sanctuary of strength, and shall take away the daily [sacrifice], and they shall place the abomination that maketh desolate.
 Quoting: Bel Z. Bug



everyday.
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I thought it was Obama-Nation.
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Actually it's the Khazarian persecution of the real children of Abraham - the Christians, Muslims and Mizrahi jewish people who lived in Palestine before the Ashkenazi fake jewish people took over.
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The 'Fake Jewish' AKA The 'Khazarian Jewish' Myth has been debunked so many times it's getting extremely boring.

After suffering persecution in Persia, Byzantium, and various Islamic nations, many Jewish people fled to Khazaria for safety. The Khazars and Jewish people enjoyed a diplomatic relationship and eventually Khazarian nobility converted to Judaism around the 8th-9th century A.D. Some historians believe their subjects later converted to Judaism as well, although the extent of conversion is debated and evidence exists to verify a range of figures. Kharzars held a diverse range of religions including Judaism, Christianity, Islam, Zoroastrianism, and various pagan beliefs. Although evidence certainly points to some Khazars holding Jewish beliefs, they were not all converts to Judaism.

Fast forward to the 19th century. French Philosopher Ernest Renan appears to be responsible for starting the conspiracy theory in his book Judaism as a Race and as Religion. He puts forth the claim Ashkenazic Jewish people are descended from Khazarian converts and the line of Japheth and not 'pure blood' Semitic Jewish people descended from Shem and Abraham. Slowly but surely the theory began to spread in popularity and was ultimately popularized in the 20th century by the well known racial theorist Lothrop Stoddard. Several more authors picked up and propagated the myth throughout the 20th century to the point the accusation became wide spread and well known. The theory is now very popular with various anti-semitic and anti-Zionist organizations and is mostly used to negate Israel's purpose of existence.

DNA Evidence even debunks it!
Jewish and Middle Eastern non-Jewish populations share a common pool of Y-chromosome biallelic haplotypes.
[link to www.pnas.org]

Haplotypes constructed from Y-chromosome markers were used to trace the paternal origins of the Jewish Diaspora. A set of 18 biallelic polymorphisms was genotyped in 1,371 males from 29 populations, including 7 Jewish (Ashkenazi, Roman, North African, Kurdish, Near Eastern, Yemenite, and Ethiopian) and 16 non-Jewish groups from similar geographic locations. The Jewish populations were characterized by a diverse set of 13 haplotypes that were also present in non-Jewish populations from Africa, Asia, and Europe. A series of analyses was performed to address whether modern Jewish Y-chromosome diversity derives mainly from a common Middle Eastern source population or from admixture with neighboring non-Jewish populations during and after the Diaspora. Despite their long-term residence in different countries and isolation from one another, most Jewish populations were not significantly different from one another at the genetic level. Admixture estimates suggested low levels of European Y-chromosome gene flow into Ashkenazi and Roman Jewish communities. A multidimensional scaling plot placed six of the seven Jewish populations in a relatively tight cluster that was interspersed with Middle Eastern non-Jewish populations, including Palestinians and Syrians. Pairwise differentiation tests further indicated that these Jewish and Middle Eastern non-Jewish populations were not statistically different. The results support the hypothesis that the paternal gene pools of Jewish communities from Europe, North Africa, and the Middle East descended from a common Middle Eastern ancestral population, and suggest that most Jewish communities have remained relatively isolated from neighboring non-Jewish communities during and after the Diaspora.

Even more proof:
[link to query.nytimes.com]
With a new technique based on the male or Y chromosome, biologists have traced the diaspora of Jewish populations from the dispersals that began in 586 B.C. to the modern communities of Europe and the Middle East.

The analysis provides genetic witness that these communities have, to a remarkable extent, retained their biological identity separate from their host populations, evidence of relatively little intermarriage or conversion into Judaism over the centuries.

Another finding, paradoxical but unsurprising, is that by the yardstick of the Y chromosome, the world's Jewish communities closely resemble not only each other but also Palestinians, Syrians and Lebanese, suggesting that all are descended from a common ancestral population that inhabited the Middle East some four thousand years ago.

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Despite the Ashkenazi Jewish people' long residence in Europe, their Y signature has remained distinct from that of non-Jewish Europeans.

Those who continue to push forth the theory that Ashkenazi Jewish people are not 'real Jewish people' also display a gross ignorance of the Jewish religion concerning the treatment and acceptance of converts. This is either ignored or unknown by those who make the accusation. Although we can see above DNA evidence vindicates modern Jewish people, even if by some chance they were not ancestrally related, the fact remains in Judaism a convert is treated with the utmost respect and, according to Jewish Law, no differentiation is made between a 'biological,' if you will, Jewish and a Jewish convert.

Even some famous Biblical characters, one example being Ruth, an ancestor of King David, were converts to the faith and not born into it as a descendant of Abraham. A Jewish is a Jewish either through heritage or conversion so this accusation is negated.

Historical Support

As I mention above, the statistics regarding the Khazarian conversion is a hotly debated topic. For the sake of intellectual honesty, I will say that in some cases there is historical support to confirm a a large amount of converts. However, this still poses no problem to Israel's right to exist or its current citizens of being 'Real Jewish people.' There were conversions as well as a mixing of the cultures but the scientific evidence above proves the bloodline retained its integrity. History, biology, and archeology also prove not all Khazarians became Ashkenazi Jewish people and not all Ashkenazi Jewish people were Khazarian. Although many did convert to Judaism, many Kharzarians still held a diverse range of religious beliefs.

Conclusion

In light of all evidence, most scholars and historians have rejected or abandoned the conspiracy theory altogether. The remaining proponents of the theory generally consist of various groups and organizations seeking to undermine Israel's sovereignty, its citizens right to the land, and to propagate anti-semitic information.

You'll often find this information still being presented without any actual facts to back it up on anti-semitic websites like Stormfront, Jewish Watch, etc.

The fact remains, this claim simply is not factual and all evidence points to this conspiracy theory being false.

The whole idea for the lost tribes stems from the split into to two kingdoms of Israel and Judah after King Solomon's death.

[link to en.wikipedia.org]
The phrase Ten Lost Tribes of Israel refers to the ancient Tribes of Israel that disappeared from the Biblical account after the Kingdom of Israel was destroyed, enslaved and exiled by ancient Assyria. Many groups of Jewish people have doctrines concerning the continued hidden existence or future public return of these tribes.

This whole notion is very easily dismissed. It requires that only the tribe of Judah remained in the southern kingdom. Israel and Judah were on the verge of civil war when God sent a prophet to warn them to stop.

"But the word of the Lord came bto Shemaiah the man of God, saying, 3 “Speak to Rehoboam the son of Solomon, king of Judah, and to all Israel in Judah and Benjamin, saying,  ‘Thus says the Lord: “You shall not go up or fight against your brethren! Let every man return to his house, for this thing is from Me.” ’ ” Therefore they obeyed the words of the Lord, and turned back from attacking Jeroboam. " (2 Ch 11:2-4)

Now the temple and was of course still in Jerusalem so in respoonse to this message the priests and levites returned to Judah.

" And from all their territories the priests and the Levites who were in all Israel took their stand with him." (2 Ch 11:13)

Basically the northern kingdom became pagan and secular - which why it was given over by God first. In response to the priests return, Jewish people that were faithful to the Lord from all of the tribes returned to Judah.

"And after the Levites left, those from all the tribes of Israel, such as set their heart to seek the Lord God of Israel, came to Jerusalem to sacrifice to the Lord God of their fathers." (2 Ch 11:16)

So there were representatives from all tribes in the southern kingdom prior to the northern kingdom being sacked and exiled by Assyria, putting to rest the whole notion of "lost" tribes. Further evidence is in that in the new testament the disciples all were aware of their tribes and addressed others by their respective heritage as well. Sure there were/are many lost Jewish people to the diaspora - I saw a special recently where they found Jewish community in India - but no lost tribes. All the tribes are represented in Israel's population today.

I know what you will say about that too.. Quoting the bible does not even help your argument.
Revelation 2:
9 I know thy works, and tribulation, and poverty, (but thou art rich) and I know the blasphemy of them which say they are Jewish people, and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan.

Revelation 3:
9 Behold, I will make them of the synagogue of Satan, which say they are Jewish people, and are not, but do lie; behold, I will make them to come and worship before thy feet, and to know that I have loved thee.

Remember, at the time Revelation was penned, the term 'Christian' was not in popular use, although Acts records it's first use in 1st century A.D. At that time, 'Christians' were still widely considered and called Jewish people, even the Gentile converts to 'Christianity.' This was prior to the Christian/Jewish rift.

The passage in Revelation is referring to theological belief, not physical ancestry. In addition I think the verses in Revelation about the false Jewish people are speaking prophetically toward the conflict we see today in Israel. There are the many people making an ancestral claim to the Jewish homeland that don't have any heritage there.

Many people groups in the middle east claim to be descendants of Abraham that simply are not. For instance some "Palestinians" claim an Abrahamic heritage through Ishmael.

[link to www.palestinefacts.org]
The name Palestine refers to a region of the eastern Mediterranean coast from the sea to the Jordan valley and from the southern Negev desert to the Galilee lake region in the north. The word itself derives from "Plesheth", a name that appears frequently in the Bible and has come into English as "Philistine". Plesheth, (root palash) was a general term meaning rolling or migratory. This referred to the Philistine's invasion and conquest of the coast from the sea. The Philistines were not Arabs nor even Semites, they were most closely related to the Greeks originating from Asia Minor and Greek localities. They did not speak Arabic. They had no connection, ethnic, linguistic or historical with Arabia or Arabs.

They are not Ishmaelites - that claim is likely limited to the Saudis. Israel was an abandoned waste land when England took it over. The term Arab gets thrown around a lot - when the only thing the people groups have in common is Islam. It is more PC to say "Arab" than Muslim. I think the Revelation verse is also referring to the Jewish homeland's problems.

The belief in Judaism, according to their law defined in the Torah, that considers converts 'real Jewish people' as well. Even if some Jewish people today do not have a Jewish heritage, it does not negate any claim they have to the land along with those born into Jewish ancestry.

Therefore, those who even try to use the canard 'Ashkenazic Jewish people aren't real Jewish people' get the legs chopped off of their argument once we see that Converted Jewish people and Semitic Jewish people are the same according to Jewish law. The DNA evidence helps debunk the canard but even if we did not have such strong evidence on our side, the accusation of 'non blood Jewish people' still wouldn't stand.
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Jesus Christ was a jewish (John 4:9), the long-awaited "Messiah" (Christ is the Greek form of the Hebrew Messiah), "the son of David" (Matthew 1:1). Nearly all of the first Christians were jewish people, who never stopped thinking of, or calling themselves, nationally or religiously, jewish people - they simply recognized the Messiah, while other jewish people didn't (a necessary blindness; the Messiah would not have been sacrificed as the Passover "Lamb of God" otherwise, and the world would still be without a Savior - the reason that the Messiah prayed, even as He was being crucified, "Father, forgive them; for they know not what they do" Luke 23:34 KJV).

Early Christianity was so "Jewish" that, in the minds of some of those who did not yet fully understand that the Gentiles were also children of God, they would have, in effect, if not literally, have said "You can't be a Christian if you aren't a jewish!" The apostle Paul publicly rebuked the apostle Peter for that very reason:

"But when I saw that they walked not uprightly according to the truth of the gospel, I said unto Peter before them all, If thou, being a jewish, livest after the manner of Gentiles, and not as do the jewish people, why compellest thou the Gentiles to live as do the jewish people?" (Galatians 2:14 KJV)

"Behold, I will make them of the synagogue of Satan"

The point of this is that many of the terms used by New Testament writers were "Jewish," that is, they were familiar terms spoken by, and to, jewish people. Among those terms found in the New Testament is the "Synagogue of Satan," as spoken by Jesus Christ, a jewish, in the Book of Revelation (which was written by the apostle John according to what Jesus Christ told him i.e. Revelation 1:1), that some have used to persecute jewish people over the centuries. They ignore the Jewish reality of the founding of Christianity, and foolishly proclaim, from the "Synagogue of Satan" term, and others, that "jewish people are of Satan" and that "the jewish people" opposed Christians (nearly all of whom were also jewish people who did not even call themselves Christians. Some ignorant, hate-filled bigots will even call you a liar if you say to them, for example, that Jesus Christ was a jewish, as the Holy Scriptures plainly say that He was. They commonly say that He was a "Christian," even though the Bible plainly describes Him racially as a jewish, living as a jewish, and worshipping God as a jewish.

Synagogue is from the Greek word (pronounced) sunagog which means "an assembly". It was natural for Jesus Christ to use the term synagogue for "an assembly" in describing people who were a "gathering of Satan," not meaning that jewish people were of Satan, but those particular people were an "assembly" of Satan.

The term "synagogue of Satan" is found twice in the Bible, both times as spoken by Jesus Christ, in describing people who simply opposed the truth, and in both of the references the people spoken of were not even jewish people in a religious sense.

"And unto the angel of the church in Smyrna write; These things saith the first and the last, which was dead, and is alive; I know thy works, and tribulation, and poverty, but thou art rich and I know the blasphemy of them which say they are jewish people, and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan." (Revelation 2:8-9 KJV)

"And to the angel of the church in Philadelphia write; These things saith he that is holy, he that is true, he that hath the key of David, he that openeth, and no man shutteth; and shutteth, and no man openeth; I know thy works: behold, I have set before thee an open door, and no man can shut it: for thou hast a little strength, and hast kept my word, and hast not denied my name. Behold, I will make them of the synagogue of Satan, which say they are jewish people, and are not, but do lie; behold, I will make them to come and worship before thy feet, and to know that I have loved thee." (Revelation 3:7-9 KJV)
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So with that being said, at least in my mind after reviewing everything else, and not to demonize Catholics themselves because they are true believers in Jesus Christ, the Jesuit Papacy, Knights of Malta, Freemasons, Illuminati, etc would seem to be to be the best likely candidate to fit the term "Synagogue of Satan".

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