WHY HAS SIRIUS A BEEN REMOVED FROM GOOGLE SKY? The Hopi Prophesy. The Dogon. Nibiru.

Thank you love.

you removed the comment AGAIN.

now i'm thinking you have an agenda?

Because it was a lie and more projection being presented as truth.

I did not ban you.

I will not longer speak to something I didn't do. I removed your post, which I admitted immediately.

I have nothing to hide.


As far as an agenda...

Yes.

To Teach.






Last Edited by Seer777 on 04/29/2012 09:27 PM

Why was sirius removed from google sky?
Because it's a starship.

Love this song.

Great images as well.

Seer - I commend you on your responses to Assmut. He is rude, condescending and abrasive and you responded with maturity and grace.

What he (YOU-ASSmut) fails to "get" is that we, the general public, are being shown or not shown certain things in these generic star programs. The question is - why? Sure, we could go to a better "source" and dig further - but the people hiding these things don't expect we (the general public) would ever go so far.

Do you really think we give a crap about all the little stars being hidden in the glare?? No. You may, we don't. If you want to look at them you can go to your big programs. We can see little stars by looking at the sky in our yard.

We are not researchers just like we are not journalists. We comment on what we are shown just like we comment on what we read in the newspaper. YOU researchers have the info - WE are only seeing what's doled out to us.

Again - the question remains - why is it being blocked to the general public.

And, let's see if you can answer this without sarcasm and arogance. If you can do that, I'll let you have your almighty last word.

I "directed" you to it MONTHS ago, clearly you aren't actually paying attention to what I'm telling you. And again, the "stream of particles" is a diffraction spike from two different images stitched together with Sirius in the frame in one image and Sirius outside the field of view in the other.
I already explained all this before:
[link to www.godlikeproductions.com]
Top of one film plate:
[link to archive.stsci.edu]
Bottom of the other that they stitched it with:
[link to archive.stsci.edu]
When you stitch those two together, this is what you get:
[link to i319.photobucket.com]
The diffraction spike is different in the two because Sirius is at a completely different position relative to the optical axis in each image; in one, it's in the image, in the other it's off-image and above the telescope's field of view.

This is what you get for using a secondary source of information rather than the raw individual film plates from which the mosaic was derived. In other words, sloppy research technique.

Last Edited by Astromut on 04/29/2012 09:56 PM

I Can Hear You.





Last Edited by Seer777 on 04/29/2012 10:02 PM

This is what you get for using a secondary source of information rather than the raw individual film plates from which the mosaic was derived. In other words, sloppy research technique.

This is what I'm talking about! We are not researchers! We don't have the raw plates! Calling it "sloppy research" is high arrogance. We are asking for a good explaination why it is covered to those of us without thousand dollar solar programs. So you can see the little stars? Please.

That's because you're relying on a secondary source of information put together by a company that does not specialize in astronomy and provides the service for free simply as a way of generating hits. The general public has full access to ALL the sky survey data, however, and it is the fault of ignorant users who do not avail themselves of that data but instead rely entirely upon "generic star programs" - translation, crappy web ware using stitched compressed mosaics of a subset of the raw data.

Your statement contains the blatant assumption that people are hiding things, when in fact, if they were hiding things you would be able to do the proper research and get the data without any problems, which is exactly what I did and what you and others failed to do.

Do I care that you don't give a crap? No. Do astronomers care about all the little stars being hidden in the glare? Yes, they do.

And I'm an amateur astronomer, I'm someone who actually uses data like this.

"Big programs" have nothing to do with it. Thanks for proving you don't know what you're talking about. How do you think those "big programs" get astrometric data for all those stars? With all sky surveys! That's how! And yes, they are limited by the glare from bright stars and that is PRECISELY why images like that exist!!!!
[link to www.bisque.com]

IT IS NOT! The full sky survey data is available to everyone! Oh boo-hoo, you might have to dig a little deeper than google sky. Newsflash, these sky surveys have been around in some cases for decades before google ever existed! And guess what? They could be accessed back then just as they can now!

It's what it is, not arrogance. You have all the same access to the same sky survey data that I have, it's all there. You just have to do the proper research, which you haven't done.

LMFAO! I don't have "thousand dollar solar programs."

Man you're dense, the DATA IS FREELY AVAILABLE, THAT'S WHAT I'VE BEEN TELLING YOU! A few examples:
[link to stdatu.stsci.edu]
[link to irsa.ipac.caltech.edu]
[link to irsa.ipac.caltech.edu]
[link to irsa.ipac.caltech.edu]

Last Edited by Astromut on 04/29/2012 10:13 PM

I waited 15 mins for a response and I'm not wasting my time any longer. I'm sure it would have been an evasive, rude answer anyway. I don't need that kind of negativity. If I thought I'd get a good answer I'd wait.

I'll check back, and I'm sure I'll be proven correct in the type of response I received.


Seer - 5 stars. Great find and you are obviously a good soul here for truth.

Thank you love.

You shine.





"We are the Music Makers,
And WE are the Dreamers of the Dream."

-Willy Wonka

Thank you for your response.

1) I did NOT know about the websites you posted and I greatly appreciate you sharing them. I will definitely check them out.

2) You could have shared that information without such condescending, rude and hateful things like "BOOHOO" "NEWSFLASH" "Thanks for proving you don't know what you're talking about" "!!!!!" "What YOU and others failed to do".

Is this how you talk to people in person? If you have information we don't know and are here to teach, then there is a better way to go about it. If you are here to ridicule, you're doing a great job.

You would most certainly be able to educate with what you know, but you completely turn people off with the attitude and I'm sure you get a lot of trolling because of it.

Thanks again for sharing the sites. You may have posted them before but not all of us read every thread ever written.

Try to be a nice guy, you may like it.

I ALREADY RESPONDED TO YOU, STOP DELETING MY POSTS!

lol - timing is everything. You were writing while I was posting.

STOP YELLING.

SHE IS NOT THE OP SO HOW THE FUCK CAN SHE DELETE YOUR POSTS?

why do you bother if they delete your shit?

it's a waste of time.

Depends. If they ignore what I've been saying for nearly 7 months and refer to me as "assmut," then yes. You want the bull? You got the horns too.

I know she's not the OP, but the OP is deleting my posts.

Good point. Have fun trying to figure it out on your own guys. Clearly some aren't interested in the truth, they just want to "ask questions" and pretend like they can't be answered without it involving a conspiracy.

Astro you are copy/pasting the same material over and over. I didn't like the gigantic "FAIL" image you choose either.

This is MY thread. My rules.

Like it or not.

I joined GLP as a paying member the DAY I found this site.

Which entitles me to the perks of specific functions GLP reserves for their paying members.


You have said your bit.


Also, I will not allow in-fighting and redundancy on my thread.

If you want to post new material...feel free.

However, if I feel you are being abusive in anyway, I will still reserve the right to remove at will.

You sir are extremely rude.


Why do you always force your opinion! You have to hang around forcing your point of view down peoples throats laughing and name calling, you are a cyber bully, and many here now see through you and the others here that like to hog certain threads and use insults to control opinions.

The question you failed to answer with any substance was...

Why delete it from google sky?

you say it is to cut down the light exposure so you can see the smaller stars, but yet you say that a real astronomer would not use those programs for research and would go to the original plates.

So why bother blocking it if REAL RESEARCHERS lol do not use those programs? I do not care either way for your reply I am pointing out that what you have given as an explanation added with some of your other rude uncouth comments just does not add up.

Oh and ps Seer777 is a female treat her with respect, would you like someone talking to your wife in the manner you talk to her, you rude man.

I'm not going to waste my time fighting with you, but I'll say I called you ASSMut based on the rude responses you have been given others. You just ooze negativity, you reep what you sow.

You may have been posting the same stuff for 7 months but not all of us has seen it.

ANYWAY - I went to those sites. Again, I appreciate you posting them for the umpteenth time (apparently).

They are not for those of us that just want to go look at Sirius. I'm no idiot, but I would need to take a course in astronomy to figure all that out. The programs for those of us that don't know all those terms, coordinates, or a Spectrum Server from a Spectometer are what we are going to be refering to when we just want to see a star.

And, I see my point was proven. You just can't be a nice person. So, in the future, I will not even bother to seek an answer from you. Luckily we can pick and choose who we have in our lives and who we don't. There are other, wiser, teachers.

Sure wish we had gotten an answer as to why it was deleted but I'm doubting we will. Something is not right. Yes, as someone said it looked like it was done in haste too. There has been a lot said about Sirius, maybe there is some weight to it.

Good find, Seer. Good thread.

Those websites that were listed? There was a section for the general public and a "restricted" section. Why would they restrict the public from seeing the sky?



(Mutt - don't bother cutting my post and giving me your answers because I'm not reading your posts.)

It's not my fault if you can't figure out how to look up the coordinates for sirius in wikipedia or elsewhere. Sirius was "blocked" long before google sky existed. Google sky is not a primary source for that data. They simply did not look for an alternative film plate, but they are run by people like you who probably didn't even know such a plate existed. They most likely used a batch process to grab the film plate data, damn the consequences. That's why they suck. The glp telescope will not be blocking it, you'll be able to control the scope yourselves. Enjoy.

Ha sorry seer I did not comment on the post as the bully got me a little hot under the collar.

It is a wonderful thread very informative, put together very well, I have been wanting to read up on the Hopi and was going to put some time aside soon for just that task, you have wetted my apatite so many thanks and loads of love.

[link to www.youtube.com]

That's why it was "blocked" on that film plate.