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Will the real Jesus please stand up?

 
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.....psssst.....so I have this full rain catchment tank and I'm planning a wedding......think you could maybe....you know...like old times?
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.....psssst.....so I have this full rain catchment tank and I'm planning a wedding......think you could maybe....you know...like old times?
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I don't get what your are saying. Am I overlooking something obvious?
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.....psssst.....so I have this full rain catchment tank and I'm planning a wedding......think you could maybe....you know...like old times?
 Quoting: Xisuthros Rex


I don't get what your are saying. Am I overlooking something obvious?
 Quoting: Jenann

Here's some clues. Jesus, at a wedding...with a bunch of water laying around....




I wonder if he can do a shiraz? What am I saying of course he can, he's the Jesus!
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gospels of thomas & mary
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Good starts!

Gospel of Thomas saying 22, bold added

(22) Jesus saw some little ones nursing. He said to his disciples, "These little ones who are nursing resemble is those who enter the kingdom." They said to him, "So shall we enter the kingdom by being little ones?" Jesus said to them, "When you (plur.) make the two one and make the inside like the outside and the outside like the inside and the above like the below, and that you might make the male and the female be one and the same, so that the male might not be male nor the female be female, when you make eyes in place of an eye and a hand in place of a hand and a foot in place of a foot, an image in place of an image - then you will enter [the kingdom]."
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If it is important to enough people we can talk about the canon and why certain writings were excluded, but as I commented to someone else, I want to get down to the historicity of Jesus right away.
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Sounds like you really want to talk about Buddha others. Am I right?
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That's recreation I ache for, to be of full service and functionality to my fellows.

To make the time....to have my wrestling with God, to be wounded and not give up until blessed, so that i may bless others.

I have gathered enough.

I will compress like a star, the good fuel will nuclearize and the dross will be blown away, and for the first time, I will see clearly on my own.

Faith will have done it's work unto fruition.

And them i can finally get things done of lasting meaningful value!
 Quoting: Xisuthros Rex


Ah, then you are standing in the Refiner's Fire!

It is best to have an experienced guide stand with you . . . for when you can no longer tell the dross from the gold, when you are tired, when you are discouraged . . . some one knowledgeable who can help you stay the course.

. . . and then, to remember, that even the smallest act of kindness may make the biggest difference in some one's life.

Remember, it is not our scale that makes "meaningful value," but God's. He treasures the widow and the orphan - the most vulnerable among us, those with the least power - those are the one's who need our efforts.

And, when you have discerned your calling, dedicate yourself to it with your whole heart. It is what God called you into the world to do - again, big or small, there is no one else but you who can do it. It's why you were invited here to this island Earth. We need you - even if you can't see where it all fits with the big picture, we know we need your gifts.
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OP, I don't want to take your thread in a direction you didn't want it to go! The historicity of Jesus is a difficult subject . . . and I'm not sure what kind of proof you might be looking for. Can you elaborate a little please?

Are you feeling some frustration with the many, MANY, "nobodies" and messiahs here at GLP?
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gospels of thomas & mary
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Good starts!

Gospel of Thomas saying 22, bold added

(22) Jesus saw some little ones nursing. He said to his disciples, "These little ones who are nursing resemble is those who enter the kingdom." They said to him, "So shall we enter the kingdom by being little ones?" Jesus said to them, "When you (plur.) make the two one and make the inside like the outside and the outside like the inside and the above like the below, and that you might make the male and the female be one and the same, so that the male might not be male nor the female be female, when you make eyes in place of an eye and a hand in place of a hand and a foot in place of a foot, an image in place of an image - then you will enter [the kingdom]."
 Quoting: Xisuthros Rex


If it is important to enough people we can talk about the canon and why certain writings were excluded, but as I commented to someone else, I want to get down to the historicity of Jesus right away.
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Sounds like you really want to talk about Buddha and others. Am I right?
 Quoting: "Libra II" 416981


Come on now. Hurry up before the police gets here.
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Ah, then you are standing in the Refiner's Fire!

It is best to have an experienced guide stand with you . . . for when you can no longer tell the dross from the gold, when you are tired, when you are discouraged . . . some one knowledgeable who can help you stay the course.

. . . and then, to remember, that even the smallest act of kindness may make the biggest difference in some one's life.

Remember, it is not our scale that makes "meaningful value," but God's. He treasures the widow and the orphan - the most vulnerable among us, those with the least power - those are the one's who need our efforts.

And, when you have discerned your calling, dedicate yourself to it with your whole heart. It is what God called you into the world to do - again, big or small, there is no one else but you who can do it. It's why you were invited here to this island Earth. We need you - even if you can't see where it all fits with the big picture, we know we need your gifts.
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I long for it. And strongly consider your advise.

Thankyou, thankyou so much for the perspective and encouragement.
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I'll have to be honest with you. This is my second thread, and the first very short lived topic I introduced was about the NCAA. Keeping up with y'all is tough. Please bear with me.

One person so far has said Jesus was a fictional character. There are other doubters on this forum, so I thought we would start with some conclusions about Jesus I found on a non-Christian website. I figure there is no point bringing up the Bible yet if people think Jesus did not walk this earth.

There is a website (infidels.org) that calls itself "The Secular Web". It is devoted to maintaining the belief that everything is natural, and that there is, by definition, no such thing as the supernatural. One of the articles got my attention because it is a critique of chapter five of a book I read once called Evidence that Demands a Verdict by Josh McDowell.

The web article's author, Jeffery Jay Lowder, critiques McDowell's evidence for the historicity of Jesus. It seems that the two authors do not share the same opinion on what constitutes evidence, with Lowder's being the more stringent. Lowder puts forth two criteria: 1)evidence from an eye witness and 2) writings that refer to non-Christian sources.

All of the comments that Lowder critiques occurred after Jesus died, so none of the people involved would have been eyewitnesses. So we are left with number 2) above.

Lowder states that "the church fathers do not provide any independent confirmation of Jesus". In other words, they did not refer to non-Christian sources in their writings.
What does this enable us to conclude? Basically nothing.

Lowder's critique of the non-Christian writers produced some interesting conclusions. Among these are: "Josephus provides independent confirmation of the life of Jesus I find this interesting because here we have a secular writer agreeing that Jesus existed.

Josephus was a Jewish historian who was considered to be accurate in his depictions of Jewish history. I find that Lowder goes one step further than I would in claiming Josephus as a source. There are two references to Jesus that are often quoted, one that is generally accepted and one that is hotly debated. In my view, the latter statement has been partially interpolated by Christians since there are sentences that would lead the reader to believe that Josephus came to believe in Jesus as his Messiah. He most certainly never became a Christian unless he did so later and his conversion was not known to the public.

There are those in the world who say that the latter passage is entirely suspect. While I believe the passage is partially suspect, Lowder claims both passages confirm the existence of Jesus. Here is what Lowder said: "In conclusion, I think McDowell is right to appeal to the Testimonium [this is the text in which the controversial passage can be found] as independent confirmation of the historicity of Jesus." It should be noted that Lowder did not use the same arguments as McDowell did, but both authors concluded that the passage confirms the existence of Jesus. Recall that Lowder is a nonbeliever.
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My last post was attributed to an anonymous coward. But you will be able to tell it was me from the (OP). It took so darn long to type it that the system logged me out.

It sounds like one of you wants to talk about Jesus turning the water into wine. Go for it. I have to talk to one of my kids about something. I'll be back ASAP.
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... the school gave me the greatest thing imaginable: my own Bible.

To be continued.
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Please continue.





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bump as I get caught up.
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bump as I get caught up.
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Hi! It's good to have you on board!!!
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My last post was attributed to an anonymous coward. But you will be able to tell it was me from the (OP). It took so darn long to type it that the system logged me out.

It sounds like one of you wants to talk about Jesus turning the water into wine. Go for it. I have to talk to one of my kids about something. I'll be back ASAP.
 Quoting: Jenann

Not really, just for some of us the historical actuality of Jesus is a non-issue. The story of Truth comes through loud and clear for those truly looking everywhere for it.

Then come to find out God hid Truth in the last place you might look, within yourself.
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And, when you have discerned your calling, dedicate yourself to it with your whole heart. It is what God called you into the world to do - again, big or small, there is no one else but you who can do it. It's why you were invited here to this island Earth. We need you - even if you can't see where it all fits with the big picture, we know we need your gifts.
 Quoting: miri

I long for it. And strongly consider your advise.

Thankyou, thankyou so much for the perspective and encouragement.
 Quoting: Xisuthros Rex


From my heart to yours . . . I'm glad it helps.

If you don't have guide at hand, you might want to read Carl Jung's "Psychology and Alchemy" and/or "Alchemical Studies." Either of those might provide a map for you while you stand in the fire.

. . . and really, there is no need of thanks. I'm just giving you what was once given to me. It is truly my honour.
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And, when you have discerned your calling, dedicate yourself to it with your whole heart. It is what God called you into the world to do - again, big or small, there is no one else but you who can do it. It's why you were invited here to this island Earth. We need you - even if you can't see where it all fits with the big picture, we know we need your gifts.
 Quoting: miri

I long for it. And strongly consider your advise.

Thankyou, thankyou so much for the perspective and encouragement.
 Quoting: Xisuthros Rex


From my heart to yours . . . I'm glad it helps.

If you don't have guide at hand, you might want to read Carl Jung's "Psychology and Alchemy" and/or "Alchemical Studies." Either of those might provide a map for you while you stand in the fire.

. . . and really, there is no need of thanks. I'm just giving you what was once given to me. It is truly my honour.
 Quoting: miri

I've been in it before and was of course terrified at the time, but it was a needed and known that i could handle wake up call. By a true Master in and out of my life within half an hour.

Ever sense there has been a growing and knowing longing to return to that purifying fire with the Joy that I know is born on the other side. With full gratitude of the "Judgement" knowing it to be the instrument of my salvation.

I feel great inertia's around me and am sure, as I know and ask for my needs they will have already been met, needing only my reception and implementation.

My gratitude shines to you and through you, back and forth to the Light.

hf
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My last post was attributed to an anonymous coward. But you will be able to tell it was me from the (OP). It took so darn long to type it that the system logged me out.

It sounds like one of you wants to talk about Jesus turning the water into wine. Go for it. I have to talk to one of my kids about something. I'll be back ASAP.
 Quoting: Jenann

Not really, just for some of us the historical actuality of Jesus is a non-issue. The story of Truth comes through loud and clear for those truly looking everywhere for it.

Then come to find out God hid Truth in the last place you might look, within yourself.
 Quoting: Xisuthros Rex


applause2oh very well said::hf:
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The real Jesus has moved on... into the new age. He is living too and evolving. Time to grow up kids.
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... the school gave me the greatest thing imaginable: my own Bible.

To be continued.
 Quoting: Jenann



Please continue.





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Sure, Daniel, I will continue. Two authors' opionions on the existence of Jesus is enough for now.

I left off with the receipt of my very first Bible. My family continued to have no church, so most of what I was learning about God came from reading the Bible. We only had to take one "religion" class during my time at the Catholic high school. Its focus was history and not personal faith. It was actually pretty interesting.

So I continued my own little life with God through reading my Bible and praying. Then we moved back to Ohio to a smaller town than before. A couple new friends invited me to their church.

The first church I visited was pretty weird, and I did not go back. Only when the DaVinci Code book came out did I realize that what my high school friend called a church was really a Masonic temple. Then the fact that the children's area in the "church" was full of comic books about the Druids made sense.

The second church I went to was a mainline protestant church that you would all recognize. My friend was heavily involved, and I went often enough to propose that my parents check it out. I did not officially join since I was going off to college (I graduated a year early).

At the time, I did not know that were means of fellowship apart from one of the denominations. Recall that my parents gave me no insight on this sort of thing. I was basically clueless. I am not saying that denominations are bad, by the way. I think a person has to pick and choose carefully when becoming involved in a local body of Christ.

There was definitely something missing, and now I know it has to do with intimate involvement with the body of Christ. There were probably smaller groups for fellowship that I was not aware of. My parents go to that church to this day.

So I went off to college, but I never got involved with a group during that time. I was aware of a couple of groups I did not want to be involved in, and beyond that nobody every invited me to their group, and I did not actively seek one out. My private worship and study continued.

After college I heard the call of God pretty clearly regarding his desire for me to be involved with other believers. That is when I started church shopping. After some serious searching I was pretty frustrated that I had found the place that God was calling me to. Then one day after my vacation, I came home to listen to an unlikely answering machine message.

I had met this guy at a party eleven months prior to this message. We had exchanged phone numbers, and I didn't hear from him within a reasonable amount of time, so I thought that was it for him.

So his message indicated that he wanted to invite me to go water skiing with him and his friends. My first thought was "after eleven months...you have got to be kidding me!" There were two factors that led to my returning the phone call. One was curiosity and the other was that I remembered there was something different about him that had to do with God.

The water skiing opportunity had passed, so he picked me up at work for lunch, and then subsequently we began to spend more and more time together. He told me about his fellowship and we discovered that we believed the same things about God and Jesus. I did not tell him I was looking for a group. My promise to myself was that I was not going to get involved in a group because of a man, and that it was going to be because of God and God alone.

I decided to check out his fellowship behind his back. I dragged a friend with me to the address that was in the phone book. Our plan was to go in the evening since he attended in the morning. We arrived on time, and nobody was there.

I called the fellowship the next day and told the person who answered the phone that I tried to attend but that no one was there. It turned out that their offices are at a separate location from their meeting place. My friend and I had gone to the wrong place. I got the correct address for the meeting place and suggested they amend their phone book entry. Apparently, this had not come up before since just about everybody who attends does so at the invitation of a friend.

Finally the next week my friend and I returned,this time to the correct location, and I knew within ten or fifteen minutes that I was "home." My friend was in agreement that this was a fellowship that preached the true gospel as it is written in the Bible. The particular friend that came with me already had a believing church that I was not interested in (she prefers a more traditional church).

I started attending regularly on my own and found that the group had started as a small Bible study near the campus of the university I attended. It had grown to the point that they rented an old warehouse for their large meetings. I discovered early on that this was just one aspect of the group. The life of the fellowship was in the home churches, something I had never heard of before. They are more or less based on the house church movement of the early church as discussed in the Bible.

After a couple of months I called the office and said I wanted a home group but that I did not want to go to my guy friend's group since I was checking things out behind his back. They gave me a meeting time and address. Boy were the people in that group surprised! It was unheard of for someone to just show up like I did without knowing someone in the group. They were very warm and inviting, and I attended for about a month before I finally confessed to my guy friend who said I was always welcome to check out his home church. I did and I stayed in his group since it was a better fit for me (we did not end up together). The overall fellowship got bigger and bigger until land was purchased and a good sized campus was constructed.

I wish I could adequately describe the sweetness of Christian fellowship in the context of a group that is small enough where you consider every member to be a close friend. We all still attend the large meeting, but after the teaching is over, we hang out in our small group and potluck. Our study of the Bible continues to be one of my favorite aspects of my life. I don't think I could find a better place to learn and share. And of course, my one on one time with God has only gotten better. The word is an amazing representation of love. Each sentence is woven into a huge tapestry of God's revelation of himself. It is so intricate that there is not a person who has ever existed that could have made it up.
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My last post was attributed to an anonymous coward. But you will be able to tell it was me from the (OP). It took so darn long to type it that the system logged me out.

It sounds like one of you wants to talk about Jesus turning the water into wine. Go for it. I have to talk to one of my kids about something. I'll be back ASAP.
 Quoting: Jenann

Not really, just for some of us the historical actuality of Jesus is a non-issue. The story of Truth comes through loud and clear for those truly looking everywhere for it.

Then come to find out God hid Truth in the last place you might look, within yourself.
 Quoting: Xisuthros Rex


applause2oh very well said::hf:
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My last post was attributed to an anonymous coward. But you will be able to tell it was me from the (OP). It took so darn long to type it that the system logged me out.

It sounds like one of you wants to talk about Jesus turning the water into wine. Go for it. I have to talk to one of my kids about something. I'll be back ASAP.
 Quoting: Jenann

Not really, just for some of us the historical actuality of Jesus is a non-issue. The story of Truth comes through loud and clear for those truly looking everywhere for it.

Then come to find out God hid Truth in the last place you might look, within yourself.
 Quoting: Xisuthros Rex


Yes, I agree that those who seek will find. I wanted to cover that topic a little for the one person out there who might be interested.
Before GLP I was under the impression that most non-Christians believed that Jesus was a real person. I have read many posts that lead me to realize that I was wrong.
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The real Jesus has moved on... into the new age. He is living too and evolving. Time to grow up kids.
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Let us know if you want to discuss this further. Some posters leave one comment and never return, so if you have something to add we'll be here.
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Hi Jen,

It looks like your thread is really moving.

Jesus was fully God, and fully man, when He walked this earth.

Shalom!
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... the school gave me the greatest thing imaginable: my own Bible.

To be continued.
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Please continue.





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Sure, Daniel, I will continue. Two authors' opionions on the existence of Jesus is enough for now.

I left off with the receipt of my very first Bible. My family continued to have no church, so most of what I was learning about God came from reading the Bible. We only had to take one "religion" class during my time at the Catholic high school. Its focus was history and not personal faith. It was actually pretty interesting.

So I continued my own little life with God through reading my Bible and praying. Then we moved back to Ohio to a smaller town than before. A couple new friends invited me to their church.

The first church I visited was pretty weird, and I did not go back. Only when the DaVinci Code book came out did I realize that what my high school friend called a church was really a Masonic temple. Then the fact that the children's area in the "church" was full of comic books about the Druids made sense.

The second church I went to was a mainline protestant church that you would all recognize. My friend was heavily involved, and I went often enough to propose that my parents check it out. I did not officially join since I was going off to college (I graduated a year early).

At the time, I did not know that were means of fellowship apart from one of the denominations. Recall that my parents gave me no insight on this sort of thing. I was basically clueless. I am not saying that denominations are bad, by the way. I think a person has to pick and choose carefully when becoming involved in a local body of Christ.

There was definitely something missing, and now I know it has to do with intimate involvement with the body of Christ. There were probably smaller groups for fellowship that I was not aware of. My parents go to that church to this day.

So I went off to college, but I never got involved with a group during that time. I was aware of a couple of groups I did not want to be involved in, and beyond that nobody every invited me to their group, and I did not actively seek one out. My private worship and study continued.

After college I heard the call of God pretty clearly regarding his desire for me to be involved with other believers. That is when I started church shopping. After some serious searching I was pretty frustrated that I had found the place that God was calling me to. Then one day after my vacation, I came home to listen to an unlikely answering machine message.

I had met this guy at a party eleven months prior to this message. We had exchanged phone numbers, and I didn't hear from him within a reasonable amount of time, so I thought that was it for him.

So his message indicated that he wanted to invite me to go water skiing with him and his friends. My first thought was "after eleven months...you have got to be kidding me!" There were two factors that led to my returning the phone call. One was curiosity and the other was that I remembered there was something different about him that had to do with God.

The water skiing opportunity had passed, so he picked me up at work for lunch, and then subsequently we began to spend more and more time together. He told me about his fellowship and we discovered that we believed the same things about God and Jesus. I did not tell him I was looking for a group. My promise to myself was that I was not going to get involved in a group because of a man, and that it was going to be because of God and God alone.

I decided to check out his fellowship behind his back. I dragged a friend with me to the address that was in the phone book. Our plan was to go in the evening since he attended in the morning. We arrived on time, and nobody was there.

I called the fellowship the next day and told the person who answered the phone that I tried to attend but that no one was there. It turned out that their offices are at a separate location from their meeting place. My friend and I had gone to the wrong place. I got the correct address for the meeting place and suggested they amend their phone book entry. Apparently, this had not come up before since just about everybody who attends does so at the invitation of a friend.

Finally the next week my friend and I returned,this time to the correct location, and I knew within ten or fifteen minutes that I was "home." My friend was in agreement that this was a fellowship that preached the true gospel as it is written in the Bible. The particular friend that came with me already had a believing church that I was not interested in (she prefers a more traditional church).

I started attending regularly on my own and found that the group had started as a small Bible study near the campus of the university I attended. It had grown to the point that they rented an old warehouse for their large meetings. I discovered early on that this was just one aspect of the group. The life of the fellowship was in the home churches, something I had never heard of before. They are more or less based on the house church movement of the early church as discussed in the Bible.

After a couple of months I called the office and said I wanted a home group but that I did not want to go to my guy friend's group since I was checking things out behind his back. They gave me a meeting time and address. Boy were the people in that group surprised! It was unheard of for someone to just show up like I did without knowing someone in the group. They were very warm and inviting, and I attended for about a month before I finally confessed to my guy friend who said I was always welcome to check out his home church. I did and I stayed in his group since it was a better fit for me (we did not end up together). The overall fellowship got bigger and bigger until land was purchased and a good sized campus was constructed.

I wish I could adequately describe the sweetness of Christian fellowship in the context of a group that is small enough where you consider every member to be a close friend. We all still attend the large meeting, but after the teaching is over, we hang out in our small group and potluck. Our study of the Bible continues to be one of my favorite aspects of my life. I don't think I could find a better place to learn and share. And of course, my one on one time with God has only gotten better. The word is an amazing representation of love. Each sentence is woven into a huge tapestry of God's revelation of himself. It is so intricate that there is not a person who has ever existed that could have made it up.
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Thanks-
very nice story

Are you still in Ohio? What part?

(We are near Columbus)




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Not really, just for some of us the historical actuality of Jesus is a non-issue. The story of Truth comes through loud and clear for those truly looking everywhere for it.

Then come to find out God hid Truth in the last place you might look, within yourself.
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Yes! Such a shock . . .

The Gospel of Thomas:

"Jesus said, 'Let him who seeks continue seeking until he finds. When he finds, he will become troubled. When he becomes troubled, he will be astonished, and he will rule over the all.'"
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Sure, Daniel, I will continue. Two authors' opionions on the existence of Jesus is enough for now...
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Thanks for sharing, OP. Most interesting!

I've had the experience of surprising a group by showing up without knowing someone first. I don't know who was more surprised: them or me! For me it is evidence of the Spirit's guidance.

I've been associated with any number of denominations, and I probably have less denominational "brand loyalty" than most. Looking back over 40+ years, I think it was God leading me into those fellowships and then when the time was right, leading me on to a different one.

Some of those stays were lengthy (up to 20 years). Either I had a lot to learn or I was hardheaded or a slow learner!
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The real Jesus has moved on... into the new age. He is living too and evolving. Time to grow up kids.
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Let us know if you want to discuss this further. Some posters leave one comment and never return, so if you have something to add we'll be here.
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It's what I know to be true. I communicate with angels, which I have mentioned on here many times. And the time is definately now, as in we are in the end times, heading into the new age. It's going to be more wonderful then anyone could even imagine.
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The real Jesus has moved on... into the new age. He is living too and evolving. Time to grow up kids.
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I totally disagree with you. New age is from the devil, himself.

Anything you need to know, about just who Jesus was/is, is written in the Holy Bible.

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