update: it isnt morgellons but causes simlar symptoms, what is it??

FAQ's:

Q. why are you asking a medical question on a conspiracy forum?
A. Because theres no doctors on medical forums, and no one can identify this. This site is much more than a conspiracy forum. its highly active, its got news, and veiws you will not find elsewhere. the collective brainpower of GLP would outweigh most forums i have ever found. if anyone can help, its one of you.

Q. you on the meth?
A. no. and this is not the thread to be trolling.

Q. have you tried vinegar/listerine/parasite cleaner etc etc?
A. tried it all. i don't want to hear your cures for worms or dandruff.

Q. are you sure its not in your head?
A. if people cant stand to be around me, complain they are itchy, even doctors ask me questions like they are scared of it.. i can assure you its real.

Q. do you really hate everyone on glp?
A. no. just most of you.

Last Edited by misanthropist on 09/19/2011 05:02 PM

anyone??

i take it no one has it then?? i really do not want to post on a morgellons forums.

OP you'll need a low power microscope (about 150-200x) in order to see stuff off your skin.
Do you have Morgellons? I wouldn't doubt it.

no i dont have a usb microscope. i will try to get one sometime but im all out of cash, i bought a normal microscope ages ago and couldnt see anything with that, at 300 - 1000+ x zoom.

It looks like a vagina

I have no idea what causes this but it sounds like a tough situation. Hope it gets better soon. :)

No, you don't have morgellons.
With morgellons, the itching is so intense you can't help but break the skin, afterwhich a crusty, clear scab will form. It is within that scab you will find the evidence of the disease. Don't expect anyone who hasn't had it themselves to truely believe you, they won;t. Colloidal Silver taken internally and applied to the legions seems to slow it down some, but it will return. It always does.

ok, thanks for your input.

i can quiet easily get scabs if i scratched them all.

i am always unbearably itchy, i just dont scratch it or i'd never stop.

bites are just that, normal scabs appear and take a week or 2 to heal if i scratched them real bad.

first one i got about 3 after the initial infection was a huge itchy rash on my face about 1in x 0.5in that i basically dug a hole in...

after that i learned not to scratch.

thats assuming i didnt get it from the filthy people i live with.
witch is probably the real source as i did encounter it in my environment before actually being infected.

so i know whatever i have, IS EVERYWHERE.. at least over here.

Okay, here's the deal on what you have.

As far as I can tell it is some kind of mold or fungus infection. It is possible to get rid of but it is very difficult.

This fungus has a very short re-spawn time, meaning after the first treatment the eggs or larva or whatever are not killed and reappears in about twelve hours. This means that you need to repeat the treatment twice a day at least a few times.

To verify, the symptoms are a slight raised bite looking spot that looks like a flea bite. Itches like crazy. When you scratch it the top comes off and leaves a small watery sore. This will cure the outbreak on your skin but will not cure the itch in your hair. They are separate things. The best thing for your hair is to wash you hair with different shampoos often. Then don't wash it for a long time. Then repeat. Keep repeating forever.

I'm going to call this infection "fungus" from now on.

The easiest way to get rid of fungus is to go swimming in a chlorinated swimming pool or chlorinated hot tub. Find a public swimming pool nearby and go swimming at least once a day for seven to ten days in a row. At least two or three of the days you need to soak twice a day, morning and night. Stay in the water at least a half an hour at a time.

If you have no swimming pool available use your bathtub full of COOL water with half cup to one cup of bleach in it. Keep the bathroom well ventilated. You want to avoid the fumes as best possible. Don't stay in the bath water more than A MINUTE OR TWO at a time.

If you do the above it will kill all the fungus on your body.

That's the easy part. The hard part is that the fungus gets in all your clothes and on all your possessions. Retouch anything with the fungus on it and you will be reinfected. Touch anyone else with the fungus and you will be reinfected. This can be controlled with the small hand sprayer. Usually within fifteen to thirty minutes after contact you feel the itching. Keep a small hand sprayer in your car trunk and one in your house. The first itching will usually be on your hands or arms. Spray your affected areas with the chlorine solution and around the itching area right away. It seems that some people are allergic to this and others are not infected.

Go to the hardware store and buy a gallon garden spray container and a small quart hand sprayer. Fill them with water and put proportionally the same amount of bleach in each as the tub. The water should not be slimy feeling at all, there should be a slight smell of chlorine but not enough to feel the greasiness or slimy. You don't need much, less is better as long as there is a SLIGHT smell of chlorine. DO NOT PUT ANY CHLORINE ON YOUR SKIN IF YOU CAN FEEL ANY GREASINESS OR SLIME FEELING IN THE SOLUTION. THAT WILL PHYSICALLY HARM YOU!

You need to put ALL your clothes and bedding in the bathtub and let sit for a half hour. The amount of chlorine should not be enough to damage the colors. Wash hot and dry in a hot clothes dryer for a long time.

You need to do all this in a precise order. Because you will be infected while handling your clothes. Do it on a weekend so you have plenty of time.

Here's how you do it:

1. So First thing to do is soak all your clothes in your tub with a cup of bleach (this can be done in a washing machine but use less chlorine. Do this to everything cloth, pillow cases, drapes, towels, EVERYTHING. Make sure you put the clothes you are wearing in the tub as well. Do the rest naked at home or have pre-bleach washed clothing available.

2. Use the small hand sprayer to disinfect your hands and arms after handling your clothes so your hand and arms are disinfected so you don't re-infect your clothes with your hands.

3. While the clothes are soaking, use the big garden sprayer with bleach to spray your complete living quarters. This means floors, carpets, pillows, wall baseboards, closets, coat hangers, drapes, chairs, sofas, tables, under chairs and sofas, under bed, bed without any coverings, sides of beds between mattress and box springs, computer keyboards, phones(don't drench your cell phone, it will stop working, just a slight mist that you can use a tissue to moisten the keyboard and covers), The interior of your car, all seats, mats, steering wheel, car trunk, under the car seats, car handles, sideboards, all your tools, all contents of all your drawers, toiletry items, toothbrush, razor, all bottles and containers, musical instruments, Musical keyboards, guitars, everything that can be touched or is close to anything that can be touched. Needless to say, you need to spray EVERYTHING. With a big sprayer this goes faster than you think it will. Be very complete. Use a mask or cloth over your mouth to minimize the chlorine fumes. Open all windows and doors for ventilation. When you are done, redo the carpets and floors a second time. (Bring the hand sprayer to your work and spray everything you come into contact with, your chair and floor, keyboards, etc.)

Be very complete. Needles to say, you need to spray EVERYTHING. With a big garden sprayer this goes faster than you think it will. Use a mask or cloth over your mouth to minimize the chlorine fumes. Open windows. When you are done, redo the carpets a second time.

4. Use the small hand sprayer to disinfect your hands and arms

5. Wash clothes hot and then dry clothes in a hot dryer for a long time.

6. Use the small hand sprayer to disinfect your hands and arms.

7. After all clothes and bedding have been soaked, drain the tub rinse all around the tub with garden sprayer, rinse with new clean water. Fill up the tub again and add a half to one cup of laundry bleach. Get in the tub and soak for two to three minutes. DON'T STAY IN FOR A LONG TIME, JUST A COUPLE OF MINUTES MAX, START WITH JUST ONE MINUTE. One minute should be long enough. You need to do this twice a day for three days and once a day for two days. IF YOU HAVE ACCESS TO A SWIMMING POOL OR HOT TUB use them since you won't risk using too much chlorine in the tub. DON'T PUT TOO MUCH CLORINE IN THE TUB, at most one cup, better to use HALF A CUP. After you soak in the tub, use your shower to rinse off thoroughly with cool water.

Okay, after the first two soaks your body is free of the fungus. The itching will continue for about five - seven days as your body heals. From then on you should be good.

Of course you will become reinfected when you touch something that you didn't disinfect or touch something or someone that has the fungus. Keep a couple of small hand sprayers, one in your car trunk and one at home. Whenever you feel new itching spray the area with the solution. You will know exactly when the itching starts. It is obvious. Remember what the last thing you touched was and spray that. What happens is that you will go looking in a box in the garage or pick up a towel that was not soaked and you will feel the itching almost immediately. Right after you do this procedure this will happen a lot, but as time goes on and you get your environment clean it it won't happen very often.

The first time I was infected it lasted a couple of years. By chance I started swimming in a swimming pool over the summer and it went away. But when I stopped swimming it came back. The next summer it went away again after swimming everyday and I made the connection to the swimming pool and the chlorine in it. Then I sprayed my house and kept swimming. It went away completely. Every few years since, I have picked it up again for looking at old things or coming into contact with others that have it. But now I keep a spray bottle handy and use it whenever I feel the itching.

I've beat this four or five times with this method. It is 100% effective in that I have gotten rid of it four or five times. I do not have it now and have been free of it for a couple of years. When I am infected, I can get rid of in in just a few days. Mostly you will become reinfected by putting on clothing that was not disinfected. Make sure to soak all clothing that you haven't worn in a while before you wear them. Get into the habit of washing all you laundry with a little bit of bleach, but not enough to run colors. Fill the washer with water, clothes and a bit of bleach. Run the wash cycle for a bit then stop the wash cycle and let the clothing sit in the waster for a while.

If you have room mates, this gets more difficult. If they have it, have them do the same thing. If you can't control your environment, go swimming every day at a public pool or a YMCA or wherever you can get access to a pool. Pets don't seem to get it. It seems to only appear on surfaces that are exposed skin.

Don't despair, you will beat this.

The easiest way is to go swimming in a public pool every day for a couple of weeks or so, spray your house, car and garage and keep your bedding and clothing washed with a little bit of bleach. Whenever you are reinfected you need to spray affected area and everything you touched. Even if you can't control your environment, if you go swimming everyday, it will minimize the torment.

If you are very diligent about this, you will be cured. Looking at the photos you posted, I am sure what you have is what I had.

Bleach and chlorine is a poison so be VERY CAREFUL to minimize inhaling fumes. After you soak in the tub, use your shower to rinse off thoroughly. Less is better than more.

This is a little bit dangerous if you use too much chlorine. DO NOT USE TOO MUCH CHLORINE. IF YOU HAVE SOME KIND OF ALLERGIC REACTION TO CHLORINE DON"T DO THIS IF ANY SIDE AFFECTS MAKE YOU FEEL BAD. This is why a swimming pool is best.

I feel you pain. This will work.

Last Edited by Medicine Man on 09/20/2011 06:07 PM

thanks for the detailed reply medicine man.

i have tried bleach baths at a high concentration for a week straight once but it doesn't seem to kill the itch on my scalp.

i will try swimming in a chlorinated pool and hope the effort/$ is worth it.

i know whatever it is, i have experienced it in my environment prior to getting infected.

i once moved a discarded item of clothing that belonged to someone who hadn't showered/changed his clothes in years to get to something in a cupboard. as soon as i touched it, within about 20 seconds i was getting a fuzzy weird itch on my arms. it was definitely the same thing i have been infected with. not knowing what it was i used some scabies lotion straight away (within 3min) and it worked effectively as far as i could tell.

theres other odd things like, when people around me scratch i always get a weird buzzing like something is leaving me. maybe a spore of some sort exploding?

it could make sense thats what makes people around me itch, or sometimes even set off hayfever and sneezing, much to the same effect as dust or pollen.

thanks again for the reply, i appreciate it.

Yes, the scalp itching is something different than the skin rash. You have to treat them as different.

The baths won't help unless you spray your environment and bleach your clothes. It will come back right away.

That's why the swimming worked over the summer, I was in different living quarters that were not contaminated. And when I came back after summer I got it again. The fungus doesn't go away over time unless bleached. It stays there.

Do you have the skin rash right now, or are you dealing with just the scalp itch now?

Last Edited by Medicine Man on 09/20/2011 06:15 PM

Remember that if you go swimming and then get into your non bleached car, you will get it back right then. It's on your steering wheel and seats and radio and everything you touch. You have to clean everything around you. That is why small spray bottles in your car and home are crucial.

In my opinion, the lotions for scabies like quell et al, are more harmful that a MILD chlorine solution.

Last Edited by Medicine Man on 09/20/2011 06:29 PM

The reason I say that the scalp and skin are different is because, if the same as me, there are never any flea like bite thingys on the scalp. It is just massive itch without the bites.

Do you have the flea like bites on your scalp or is it just itching? If there are no bites on your scalp. they are different.

Last Edited by Medicine Man on 09/20/2011 06:30 PM

started as a buzzing like something burrowing into my scalp,
but i did sort of notice random crawlies also, but within 30min was literally a volcano of spores. it seemed to infect all my clothing in a week or 2.

it was just on my scalp originally, but i would get crawlies on the face/nose, this stuff really likes hair.
random bites, thats why im not certain its a fungus but it cant be seen. bites are infrequent, but somethings trigger it, one thing i noticed in particular sulfur and sulfates, and scabies lotions.. they bring out the bites.
worst i had was when i thought it was scabies, tried to wash it out with kerosene and i ended up with about 30 bites on my chest and 20 just above each ankle. it seemed to paralize it or break free some larger? ones for a second or something.. thats what it seemed like.
except after that i get it all over. its like a faint pin prickle tip thing, or a random bite. i think an actual rash only occured a few times but it would show as a rash if i scratched it as some itches aren't really localized but cover a few inches around the bite. also, when i used sycilic acid/coal tar last i used it on my entire upper body/scalp, it seemed to give me the fuzzy crawlies like mad all over my legs. so odd. cant see it but something was there buzzing away. i also tried using some anti-viral stuff like zovirax as a test but no effect at all. i have tried 150 things, next on my list... some pond scum cleaner.

What I found with my scalp was there were a couple of spots that sometimes itched. They seemed to be the size of a small mole. They usually lived behind my ears into the hair line about an inch or two. After a while I realized that the moles moved around.

I'll tell you what I did, but I do not recommend that you do the same if you have these small moving moles.

What I did was I used a cigarette and burned them. That seems to clear up my scalp itch.

If you have any of these moving mole type things on your scalp you could ask a doctor to remove them surgically.

Last Edited by Medicine Man on 09/20/2011 07:03 PM

theres nothing, skins a little bit weird around one point of a scar on my head but nothing like moles or bumps nothing that moves or can be seen.

if its not morgellons.. what is it?

Yeah so I have no idea in which country you live as your flag keeps changing etc etc, however my original thought was "WHERE THE HELL ARE YOU LIVING AND WITH WHO?".

Seriously.

You mentioned something else earlier also about your living conditions. Ever thought that has something to do with, although not necessarily the initial infection, most certainly the incubation and continued infection???

...

And by the way, I have the utmost sympathy for you.

I had scabies once. Horrible little bastards. Although, they were treatable, and from what you say, your situation isnt...so far.

Lets keep hoping!

sounds like you got some really really bad Meth

I sympathize with you; check out the New Yorker article on the woman who scratched into her brain. Very scary; don't read it if you think your itching is psychosomatic! But it is also a good summary of current thinking on what causes itching.

[link to www.newyorker.com]

for the last time. it is not meth...

it is real.

others complain, i dont say anything, i dont even scratch incase they realize i am the cause so its not because i did..
everyone, everywhere... scratches. not anyone, some people, sometimes,

but everyone, everywhere.

its not my living conditions, it might have been caused by them.
it wont go away, if i move i take it with me unless i get rid of it first.

and i seem to always have connection issues depending where im posting from,

but it doesnt really matter. this problem is present in mostly usa, the uk and australia, and a few reports in other random countrys close to these.

this problem doesnt even seem to have a name, makes it hard to figure out.

Last Edited by misanthropist on 09/27/2011 03:57 AM

God I wish, although undoubtedly not as much as you, that there was an answer or something I could help you with...

Completely stumped... :-(

I'm so sorry that it continues for you...

And if/when you finally find a cure, it would be bloody brilliant if you could post something here, which I am sure you would do anyway!

All the very best!

chiggers or scabies.

kill them by keeping petroleum jelly over the suspected spot for a few days. They will die from lack of oxygen. Use seran wrap if needed to keep it covered.

they don't like menthol or lemon grass oil, but they especially don't like not being able to breathe. Suffocating them is pretty much the only way to get rid of them, though, so don't waste any time in covering yourself up. I killed them in 3 days on my feet, luckily they were there only so i slathered the petro-jelly on my feet and my socks soaked it up, so everytime i slapped the jelly on my feet my socks acted as the bandage. After the three days my socks had absorbed a lot of of the petro-jelly and my skin was water proof for some time.

The thing about using seran wrap is you can say you had a tattoo removed, or using colored seran wrap say you got a tattoo. Fresh tattoos are usually covered with perto-jelly and seran wrap + masking tape. There are many things you can say than "bugs" when asked why you have seran wrap on you, don't be embarrassed.

I live in a tent in some woods so i would expect to have this problem (as i mentioned i did). But you are correct! I have seen SOO MANY people itching their legs with bites looking just like the chiggers i had, and all these people live in houses!

It is amazing how many people were covered in bug bites this year. I have suspected something unnatural was up. There is no reason for so many to be covered, their whole legs (i only had my feet). These are women and men.

I even still feel a few from time to time but they are not eating me, and i do keep good hygeine. I bought lice stuff and anti-dandruff shampoo, but since the shampoo i haven't yet felt the absolute need to use the lice stuff.

I feel itchy just reading this....

I seemed to have a similar problem about a year ago, except my fungus was located underneath my eyes. It caused me to rub them something fierce and now I have big lines under my eyes aging me 10-15 years.

I feel for you.

Chiggers give the same symptoms as morgellons.. so that is strange.

Suffocating them is best you can do, bleach is bad for you, a pool with bleach/chlorine will not do shit, i tried.

You COULD try this combo:
intense, extra-strength anti-dandruff shampoo (dennorex)
then peppermint extract or spearamint extract on the scalp (which will burn or feel like it is burning, more-so than the menthol in dennorex), or lice spray, or if you can shave bald then cover in petroleum jelly. Menthol petroleum jelly colling effect will only last about 30 minutes and is not needed, their clock will begin counting down upon being covered with the jelly.

That's your best bet. Don't use a food oil (cooking or vegetable oil) because i don't know if they could feed off of it, plus it will rub away too quickly.



Chiggers are in the spider family. I kill spiders and mosquitos by spraying them with rubbing alcohol which is also an astringent. I sprayed that on myself as well which may have also helped (worked). Alcohol evaporates very fast giving a cooling sensation. After the dandruff scrub the baddies are vulnerable, massage highest % rubbing alcohol into your scalp, then if you can cover with petroleum jelly. I could not cover with petroleum jelly so i would recommend keeping your scalp massaged with rubbing alcohol for 3 to 5 minutes. Make SURE you do not breathe TOO much of it, so maybe do it outside while walking around, or inside while walking around, the alcohol ether will fall to the ground so no worries unless you have pets inside and depending on how much and how often you spray or pour the rubbing alcohol on your head/body.

To rid them of your house i can only suggest lemon grass oil or citronella being pumped through your AC duct. Burn a citronella candle far-enough away from the air intake of your home central AC unit. You will end up with soot by the vents so that is a down-side, but the bugs will be running, that's the up-side.