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MONSTER SUNSPOTS appearing. Could be the largest region in the last 6-8 years !

 
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Question: Would volcanic clouds in the sky protect you from a solar event?
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To some degree , yes. UV radiation would be attenuated , as would visible light, but as far as particle radiation is concerned, it would do little to help and particle radiation is the big problem. Particle radiation essentially is sub atomic particles moving at very high velocities,protons and electrons being the most prevalent.
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Question: Would volcanic clouds in the sky protect you from a solar event?
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Good question
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Question: Would volcanic clouds in the sky protect you from a solar event?
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Good question
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Any added mass density between the Sun and the Earth would help to some degree, but attenuation of particle radiation by ash clouds is almost nil. It will block the lower energy electromagnetic radiation though.
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Any added mass density between the Sun and the Earth would help to some degree, but attenuation of particle radiation by ash clouds is almost nil. It will block the lower energy electromagnetic radiation though.
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You seem to know allot about this stuff AC1239088. May I ask what your scientific background is?

Also you say that "they" think that this could be it.. you mean by it, another Carrington event, or maybe worse?

How did you get this information?

Last Edited by Wubbo Ockels on 09/23/2011 08:08 PM
"Yes, we have hurdles, we have distractions, we have disasters, personally and world-wide, and we do have to work it all out ourselves. BUT, there is a most amazing experience awaiting us on the other end of the finish-line.
The idea being, once we can handle it all down here, then we can live and explore eternally, responsibly, because we know what not to do, and not be resentful about being responsible, so we don't start a polarity domino effect in the other realms of existence."

"The Fraction" of Life can be increased in value not so much by increasing your Numerator as by lessening your Denominator. Nay, unless my Algebra deceive me, Unity itself divided by Zero will give Infinity."
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Any added mass density between the Sun and the Earth would help to some degree, but attenuation of particle radiation by ash clouds is almost nil. It will block the lower energy electromagnetic radiation though.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1239088


You seem to know allot about this stuff AC1239088. May I ask what your scientific background is?

Also you say that "they" think that this could be it.. you mean by it, another Carrington event, or maybe worse?

How did you get this information?
 Quoting: Wubbo Ockels


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"Yes, we have hurdles, we have distractions, we have disasters, personally and world-wide, and we do have to work it all out ourselves. BUT, there is a most amazing experience awaiting us on the other end of the finish-line.
The idea being, once we can handle it all down here, then we can live and explore eternally, responsibly, because we know what not to do, and not be resentful about being responsible, so we don't start a polarity domino effect in the other realms of existence."

"The Fraction" of Life can be increased in value not so much by increasing your Numerator as by lessening your Denominator. Nay, unless my Algebra deceive me, Unity itself divided by Zero will give Infinity."
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Re: MONSTER SUNSPOTS appearing. Could be the largest region in the last 6-8 years !
One should also look at where on the Solar Coordinates that sun spot is located. It is around 15-20 degrees (eye balling it) -- if you look back at the carrington event flare of 1859 it was also in the same neighborhood according to this drawing that was done of the sunspots

[link to astroguyz.com]

It looks to be a big beast and it's very active as we already know - producing M Flares and an X Flare yesterday.

Here's hoping this thing fizzles out over the next several days.
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"Yes, we have hurdles, we have distractions, we have disasters, personally and world-wide, and we do have to work it all out ourselves. BUT, there is a most amazing experience awaiting us on the other end of the finish-line.
The idea being, once we can handle it all down here, then we can live and explore eternally, responsibly, because we know what not to do, and not be resentful about being responsible, so we don't start a polarity domino effect in the other realms of existence."

"The Fraction" of Life can be increased in value not so much by increasing your Numerator as by lessening your Denominator. Nay, unless my Algebra deceive me, Unity itself divided by Zero will give Infinity."
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MONSTER SUNSPOTS appearing. Could be the largest region in the last 6-8 years !

New sunspot 1302 has already produced two X-flares (X1.4 on Sept. 22nd and X1.9 on Sept. 24th).

If the width is similar to the height 13 Earths would fit in side the spot area. That is for each of the 2 spots so if they are both he same size (and they look it) say 25 earths.


here's a photo-shot of the first and second spot:
[link to www.solarham.com]

and here's one as it progressed:
[link to spaceweather.com]



Fastforward the video to 4:10 to take a look.


 Quoting: Wubbo Ockels


Right the 1302 cluster looks HUGE. Biggest I've seen.
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Any added mass density between the Sun and the Earth would help to some degree, but attenuation of particle radiation by ash clouds is almost nil. It will block the lower energy electromagnetic radiation though.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1239088


You seem to know allot about this stuff AC1239088. May I ask what your scientific background is?

Also you say that "they" think that this could be it.. you mean by it, another Carrington event, or maybe worse?

How did you get this information?
 Quoting: Wubbo Ockels


We're all arm chair experts except but a few.
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bloody hot in the uk today(wales),sun was very fierce!shit loads of them chem-trails about as well,all over the place!
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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1879721


Id bet my solar panels nowt wıll happen ıe a flare wıll happen but ıt wıll be no threat
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bloody hot in the uk today(wales),sun was very fierce!shit loads of them chem-trails about as well,all over the place!
 Quoting: lao tzu


I Was ın abersoch where u cus ı dıdnt see any chemtraıls was hot tho
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Re: MONSTER SUNSPOTS appearing. Could be the largest region in the last 6-8 years !
One should also look at where on the Solar Coordinates that sun spot is located. It is around 15-20 degrees (eye balling it) -- if you look back at the carrington event flare of 1859 it was also in the same neighborhood according to this drawing that was done of the sunspots

[link to astroguyz.com]

It looks to be a big beast and it's very active as we already know - producing M Flares and an X Flare yesterday.

Here's hoping this thing fizzles out over the next several days.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1511442


Excellent research here. Looks like the Carrington 'cluster' was still slightly bigger than this monster we have now, but its difficult to tell unless we had a full scale of the sun.
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solarwatcher- barcarroler youtube channel
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dr. k strong you tube channel- this guy sounds funny but is very critical of noaa and nasa. he knows his shit

notice at 3:37 mins in he says he cant see elenin yet
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Ok a lot of talk about solar flares but what would happen if a big one hit the earth, I have not seen anyone say what could happen.
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I recall a solar flare induced storm in 2004 that rocked a lot of regions and hit the west coast really hard. My friend in the northwest US said the storms and winds were over the top. There was a lot of activity 2004 and now it's just going to ramp up like that again it seems.
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solarwatcher- barcarroler youtube channel
 Quoting: All Over


Excellent vid! You can definitely hear his concern.

Last Edited by Wubbo Ockels on 09/24/2011 01:08 PM
"Yes, we have hurdles, we have distractions, we have disasters, personally and world-wide, and we do have to work it all out ourselves. BUT, there is a most amazing experience awaiting us on the other end of the finish-line.
The idea being, once we can handle it all down here, then we can live and explore eternally, responsibly, because we know what not to do, and not be resentful about being responsible, so we don't start a polarity domino effect in the other realms of existence."

"The Fraction" of Life can be increased in value not so much by increasing your Numerator as by lessening your Denominator. Nay, unless my Algebra deceive me, Unity itself divided by Zero will give Infinity."
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sunexplosion fart
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1302 and Carrington cluster in one image.

[link to i.imgur.com]
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solarwatcher- barcarroler youtube channel
 Quoting: All Over


Excellent vid! You can definitely hear his concern.
 Quoting: Wubbo Ockels


i noticed. this guy is really accurate too, well known.




he does both solarwatcher(sun) channel and barcarroler(eq)
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Ok a lot of talk about solar flares but what would happen if a big one hit the earth, I have not seen anyone say what could happen.
 Quoting: soldier32


well, for instance another major power-outage like in Québec, Canada in 1989:

On March 13, 1989 a severe geomagnetic storm caused the collapse of the Hydro-Québec power grid in a matter of seconds as equipment protection relays tripped in a cascading sequence of events.[2][9] Six million people were left without power for nine hours, with significant economic loss.
"Yes, we have hurdles, we have distractions, we have disasters, personally and world-wide, and we do have to work it all out ourselves. BUT, there is a most amazing experience awaiting us on the other end of the finish-line.
The idea being, once we can handle it all down here, then we can live and explore eternally, responsibly, because we know what not to do, and not be resentful about being responsible, so we don't start a polarity domino effect in the other realms of existence."

"The Fraction" of Life can be increased in value not so much by increasing your Numerator as by lessening your Denominator. Nay, unless my Algebra deceive me, Unity itself divided by Zero will give Infinity."
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BRAND NEW DR k STRONG
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[link to lasp.colorado.edu]
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watch these videos and subscribe if your a suntard sun



 Quoting: Wubbo Ockels


dr. k strong you tube channel- this guy sounds funny but is very critical of noaa and nasa. he knows his shit

notice at 3:37 mins in he says he cant see elenin yet
 Quoting: All Over



BRAND NEW DR k STRONG
 Quoting: All Over


same dude
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Even spaceweather says it's "Behemoth sunspot 1302"

[link to www.spaceweather.com]
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Question: Would volcanic clouds in the sky protect you from a solar event?
 Quoting: Xisuthros Rex


To some degree , yes. UV radiation would be attenuated , as would visible light, but as far as particle radiation is concerned, it would do little to help and particle radiation is the big problem. Particle radiation essentially is sub atomic particles moving at very high velocities,protons and electrons being the most prevalent.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1239088


Thread: September the 23rd, Volcano day?
Related much?
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Made a typo in a post and lost Karma :<
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Could Elenin be the blue comet K the Hopi speak of with the RED ball of fire soon to follow from the sun. Things that make you go Hmmmmm

Nah....lol!

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