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Elenin Now On Stereo B!

 
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Come on folks, this has been debunked, plain and simple. Get over it, doom will come in some form no one expected.

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This object is NOT Pleiades, please do your homework before posting, thanks.

MD
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Yea it is and if your listening to this dumbass Mrcometwatch who claimed in a previous video he could see earth in the Stereo B HI1 camera then there is no hope for ya. Which bye the way is the method he's used to turn the pleiades into a disentgrated comet.

People have made videos and left numerous comments explaining the viewing angles of camera HI1 and HI2 and he removes them within minutes so knowone can see the truth.

He's purposely selling this BS.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1566133


You are wrong as well...

For what purpose is Mr. Cometwatch selling us this BS exactly?
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HI-2 always has, and always will, point away from the sun. In the case of STEREO-B, it points to the right of the sun.
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Wrong.
 Quoting: Moon Dog


Show us some documentation to back up your claim. We have documentation...YOU DON'T.
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Stereo B does not normally look directly at the sun. It looks 18.7 degrees off of the Sun with a field of view of 70 degrees. It is documented...Do YOUR homework.

18.7 degrees to 88.7 degrees. Thanks.
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^This.
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Ok- so let's say TBar is right. Then great!


Ok- so let's say TBar is wrong and it is NOT the Pleiades.

What is next?

How long until we start noticing effects of the object?

Would it be viewable to us with the naked eye?

If so when and where?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1577757


Let's keep our eye on the current JPL model, if nothing happens then great, we move on with our lives, I don't believe that we'll see this object until October, in the mean time get prepared.
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Well I don't believe that object seen is Elenin or a Brown Dwarf Star. However, I'm not convinced Elenin is gone completely. Another poster made mention of it slowing down and possibly altering it's trajectory. That's more believable then an invisible Brown Dwarf Star somewhere between us and the Sun that is larger than Jupiter.
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Come on folks, this has been debunked, plain and simple. Get over it, doom will come in some form no one expected.

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How has this been debunked?
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Ok- so let's say TBar is right. Then great!


Ok- so let's say TBar is wrong and it is NOT the Pleiades.

What is next?

How long until we start noticing effects of the object?

Would it be viewable to us with the naked eye?

If so when and where?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1577757


Let's keep our eye on the current JPL model, if nothing happens then great, we move on with our lives, I don't believe that we'll see this object until October, in the mean time get prepared.
 Quoting: Moon Dog


Well I don't believe that object seen is Elenin or a Brown Dwarf Star. However, I'm not convinced Elenin is gone completely. Another poster made mention of it slowing down and possibly altering it's trajectory. That's more believable then an invisible Brown Dwarf Star somewhere between us and the Sun that is larger than Jupiter.
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It's not invisible, it is very visible if you have the right hardware.
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This object is NOT Pleiades, please do your homework before posting, thanks.

MD
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Yea it is and if your listening to this dumbass Mrcometwatch who claimed in a previous video he could see earth in the Stereo B HI1 camera then there is no hope for ya. Which bye the way is the method he's used to turn the pleiades into a disentgrated comet.

People have made videos and left numerous comments explaining the viewing angles of camera HI1 and HI2 and he removes them within minutes so knowone can see the truth.

He's purposely selling this BS.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1566133


You are wrong as well...

For what purpose is Mr. Cometwatch selling us this BS exactly?
 Quoting: Moon Dog


Maybe to snap you out of your delusional state ?
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This object is NOT Pleiades, please do your homework before posting, thanks.

MD
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Yea it is and if your listening to this dumbass Mrcometwatch who claimed in a previous video he could see earth in the Stereo B HI1 camera then there is no hope for ya. Which bye the way is the method he's used to turn the pleiades into a disentgrated comet.

People have made videos and left numerous comments explaining the viewing angles of camera HI1 and HI2 and he removes them within minutes so knowone can see the truth.

He's purposely selling this BS.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1566133


You are wrong as well...

For what purpose is Mr. Cometwatch selling us this BS exactly?
 Quoting: Moon Dog


Maybe to snap you out of your delusional state ?
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What delusional state?
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Yea it is and if your listening to this dumbass Mrcometwatch who claimed in a previous video he could see earth in the Stereo B HI1 camera then there is no hope for ya. Which bye the way is the method he's used to turn the pleiades into a disentgrated comet.

People have made videos and left numerous comments explaining the viewing angles of camera HI1 and HI2 and he removes them within minutes so knowone can see the truth.

He's purposely selling this BS.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1566133


You are wrong as well...

For what purpose is Mr. Cometwatch selling us this BS exactly?
 Quoting: Moon Dog


Maybe to snap you out of your delusional state ?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1541093


What delusional state?
 Quoting: Moon Dog
I think that guy joined the party late...
There is a dumbass hiding on your keyboard. They are between "Y" and "I"
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This object is NOT Pleiades, please do your homework before posting, thanks.

MD
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Yea it is and if your listening to this dumbass Mrcometwatch who claimed in a previous video he could see earth in the Stereo B HI1 camera then there is no hope for ya. Which bye the way is the method he's used to turn the pleiades into a disentgrated comet.

People have made videos and left numerous comments explaining the viewing angles of camera HI1 and HI2 and he removes them within minutes so knowone can see the truth.

He's purposely selling this BS.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1566133


You are wrong as well...

For what purpose is Mr. Cometwatch selling us this BS exactly?
 Quoting: Moon Dog


I don't believe he thinks this is BS. I just believe like others he is mistaken and the only thing preventing him from acknowledging he was wrong is his pride.
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This object is NOT Pleiades, please do your homework before posting, thanks.

MD
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Yea it is and if your listening to this dumbass Mrcometwatch who claimed in a previous video he could see earth in the Stereo B HI1 camera then there is no hope for ya. Which bye the way is the method he's used to turn the pleiades into a disentgrated comet.

People have made videos and left numerous comments explaining the viewing angles of camera HI1 and HI2 and he removes them within minutes so knowone can see the truth.

He's purposely selling this BS.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1566133


You are wrong as well...

For what purpose is Mr. Cometwatch selling us this BS exactly?
 Quoting: Moon Dog


I don't believe he thinks this is BS. I just believe like others he is mistaken and the only thing preventing him from acknowledging he was wrong is his pride.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1543506


I'm ok with that, but he has told you what he thinks is going on in the video, why do you think he is mistaken?
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Ok- so let's say TBar is right. Then great!


Ok- so let's say TBar is wrong and it is NOT the Pleiades.

What is next?

How long until we start noticing effects of the object?

Would it be viewable to us with the naked eye?

If so when and where?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1577757


Let's keep our eye on the current JPL model, if nothing happens then great, we move on with our lives, I don't believe that we'll see this object until October, in the mean time get prepared.
 Quoting: Moon Dog


Well I don't believe that object seen is Elenin or a Brown Dwarf Star. However, I'm not convinced Elenin is gone completely. Another poster made mention of it slowing down and possibly altering it's trajectory. That's more believable then an invisible Brown Dwarf Star somewhere between us and the Sun that is larger than Jupiter.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1543506


It's not invisible, it is very visible if you have the right hardware.
 Quoting: Moon Dog


In Tbar's video he shows the object in HD view, whatever that means...It is visible and it's not this right hardware you speak of.
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I know it would be so cool, if it were the pelaideans, come to rescue us from our nefarious ways. I just dont think anyone gets off the hook that easy. Read Thread: I am Simon Ordo. I was born in 1977 and I am 49 years old. I have a warning for you. , he reminds what thu Urantia book says. "No advanced civilization is allowed to interfere with the progress of an evolving planet locked in rebellion."
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Let's keep our eye on the current JPL model, if nothing happens then great, we move on with our lives, I don't believe that we'll see this object until October, in the mean time get prepared.
 Quoting: Moon Dog


Well I don't believe that object seen is Elenin or a Brown Dwarf Star. However, I'm not convinced Elenin is gone completely. Another poster made mention of it slowing down and possibly altering it's trajectory. That's more believable then an invisible Brown Dwarf Star somewhere between us and the Sun that is larger than Jupiter.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1543506


It's not invisible, it is very visible if you have the right hardware.
 Quoting: Moon Dog


In Tbar's video he shows the object in HD view, whatever that means...It is visible and it's not this right hardware you speak of.
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Not tracking with your statement.
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This object is NOT Pleiades, please do your homework before posting, thanks.

MD
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Yea it is and if your listening to this dumbass Mrcometwatch who claimed in a previous video he could see earth in the Stereo B HI1 camera then there is no hope for ya. Which bye the way is the method he's used to turn the pleiades into a disentgrated comet.

People have made videos and left numerous comments explaining the viewing angles of camera HI1 and HI2 and he removes them within minutes so knowone can see the truth.

He's purposely selling this BS.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1566133


You are wrong as well...

For what purpose is Mr. Cometwatch selling us this BS exactly?
 Quoting: Moon Dog


To get hits on his YT channel that he's running adds and to get hits on his website. He KNOWS what the truth is and he purposely removes any comments pointing it out.

Go watch his video where he asks people to show him how the pleiades on the HI1 camera, in which he refers to a middle object(Mars) as jupiter and earth, can show up on the HI2 camera. Earth NEVER shows up on either stereo A or B with the HI1 cameras.
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This object is NOT Pleiades, please do your homework before posting, thanks.

MD
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Yea it is and if your listening to this dumbass Mrcometwatch who claimed in a previous video he could see earth in the Stereo B HI1 camera then there is no hope for ya. Which bye the way is the method he's used to turn the pleiades into a disentgrated comet.

People have made videos and left numerous comments explaining the viewing angles of camera HI1 and HI2 and he removes them within minutes so knowone can see the truth.

He's purposely selling this BS.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1566133


You are wrong as well...

For what purpose is Mr. Cometwatch selling us this BS exactly?
 Quoting: Moon Dog


To get hits on his YT channel that he's running adds and to get hits on his website. He KNOWS what the truth is and he purposely removes any comments pointing it out.

Go watch his video where he asks people to show him how the pleiades on the HI1 camera, in which he refers to a middle object(Mars) as jupiter and earth, can show up on the HI2 camera. Earth NEVER shows up on either stereo A or B with the HI1 cameras.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1566133


Dude, that sounds complicated.

All we are talking about is Stereo B being pointed a little right of normal with no Sun in the image and another object coming into it almost as if it was following JPLs model for "Comet Elenin", that's pretty simple right?
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Yea it is and if your listening to this dumbass Mrcometwatch who claimed in a previous video he could see earth in the Stereo B HI1 camera then there is no hope for ya. Which bye the way is the method he's used to turn the pleiades into a disentgrated comet.

People have made videos and left numerous comments explaining the viewing angles of camera HI1 and HI2 and he removes them within minutes so knowone can see the truth.

He's purposely selling this BS.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1566133


You are wrong as well...

For what purpose is Mr. Cometwatch selling us this BS exactly?
 Quoting: Moon Dog


I don't believe he thinks this is BS. I just believe like others he is mistaken and the only thing preventing him from acknowledging he was wrong is his pride.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1543506


I'm ok with that, but he has told you what he thinks is going on in the video, why do you think he is mistaken?
 Quoting: Moon Dog


At first I believed him. I saw his video first and didn't know what I was looking at. I read youtube comments about what various people thought it may be. I downloaded stellarium and looked at JPL models. I couldn't verify one thing or another. Then I came across Tbar's video that explained the object in a way that I understood. It does not say the object is Mercury, nor did Tbar say the object Pleiades was there last year so that is what it is. That explanation was what Mr. Cometwatch debunked.

The documentation along with the models and the videos shows us that the object coming into Stereo B September 18 or 19, can't remember is 19 degrees just like the beginning of Stereo B, above the ecliptic plane, and is in the spot where Pleiades would be.

Why hasn't Mr. Cometwatch addressed the idea of this being Pleiades this year based upon the whole 19 degree theory by Tbar. The only thing he has debunked was the theory that was wrong to begin with and that has given fuel to his fire.
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You are wrong as well...

For what purpose is Mr. Cometwatch selling us this BS exactly?
 Quoting: Moon Dog


I don't believe he thinks this is BS. I just believe like others he is mistaken and the only thing preventing him from acknowledging he was wrong is his pride.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1543506


I'm ok with that, but he has told you what he thinks is going on in the video, why do you think he is mistaken?
 Quoting: Moon Dog


At first I believed him. I saw his video first and didn't know what I was looking at. I read youtube comments about what various people thought it may be. I downloaded stellarium and looked at JPL models. I couldn't verify one thing or another. Then I came across Tbar's video that explained the object in a way that I understood. It does not say the object is Mercury, nor did Tbar say the object Pleiades was there last year so that is what it is. That explanation was what Mr. Cometwatch debunked.

The documentation along with the models and the videos shows us that the object coming into Stereo B September 18 or 19, can't remember is 19 degrees just like the beginning of Stereo B, above the ecliptic plane, and is in the spot where Pleiades would be.

Why hasn't Mr. Cometwatch addressed the idea of this being Pleiades this year based upon the whole 19 degree theory by Tbar. The only thing he has debunked was the theory that was wrong to begin with and that has given fuel to his fire.
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Folks, all i can tell you is that this "object" is not Pleiades, he has tried to explain that, look at his other videos.
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Yea it is and if your listening to this dumbass Mrcometwatch who claimed in a previous video he could see earth in the Stereo B HI1 camera then there is no hope for ya. Which bye the way is the method he's used to turn the pleiades into a disentgrated comet.

People have made videos and left numerous comments explaining the viewing angles of camera HI1 and HI2 and he removes them within minutes so knowone can see the truth.

He's purposely selling this BS.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1566133


You are wrong as well...

For what purpose is Mr. Cometwatch selling us this BS exactly?
 Quoting: Moon Dog


To get hits on his YT channel that he's running adds and to get hits on his website. He KNOWS what the truth is and he purposely removes any comments pointing it out.

Go watch his video where he asks people to show him how the pleiades on the HI1 camera, in which he refers to a middle object(Mars) as jupiter and earth, can show up on the HI2 camera. Earth NEVER shows up on either stereo A or B with the HI1 cameras.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1566133


Dude, that sounds complicated.

All we are talking about is Stereo B being pointed a little right of normal with no Sun in the image and another object coming into it almost as if it was following JPLs model for "Comet Elenin", that's pretty simple right?
 Quoting: Moon Dog


The object you speak of was too far above the ecliptic plane to be elenin anyways. Not to mention we have all sorts of videos of Elenin being a comet. Now all of a sudden it's an object bigger than Jupiter? What's more believable?
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bump Great Work OPieeee!!
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Not to interfere with your thread, but in case you missed it, here's something I thought interesting. IF THIS GUY IS FROM THE FUTURE, he said no alien contact had occured up to his time in the future, well beyond the collapse of the current system / regime.

Read below: (from- Thread: I am Simon Ordo. I was born in 1977 and I am 49 years old. I have a warning for you. (Page 20) )

OP...can you describe the US relative to safe zones?

You mention moving away from the cities and that you specifically moved from Texas to the Northwest eventually.

Any reason why Northwest?

You are familiar with the Titor story? How does your story with his compare?

You are jumping forward to your timeline in a few weeks. Are you making contact with others who are in your military group here before you jump?

In other words...What is your purpose here other than a glp thread?

I think I remember you mentioning solar flares in your post. Did you experience them? What impact did they have?

Did you experience Elenin?

Did you experience specific earth changes/events?

Did the weather patterns change - colder/hotter?

Did the planet experience an ET contact that was made public?

You mention wars? Who was fighting who? On planet? Off planet?

What is one memory during this time period that is most precious to you?

If you wrote a story about this adventure in survival, what would be your opening sentence?

Who is caring for all the orphaned children? Assuming many adults die.

You mentioned that you had a wife and daughter? Is this still the case in your timeline?

If you have already answered these questions just let me know.

Sorry once I started I couldn't stop asking questions. If you are registered OP you can mail me. Feel free to tell me to mind my own bees wax too! :)

Thank you...I wish you the best.
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The combination of Mountains, Forest, Oceans and Plains seemed like a good start for making a more natural life.

Yes, I'm familiar with the Titor story. I don't know anyone named Titor, but that isn't surprising. All I know is that in 2011 I called B.S. on the John Titor story. I have since changed my position a great deal. I don't know if it's true or not, but is seems probable.

No, I'm not meeting up with anybody. My purpose is to recover an asset that would otherwise be wasted (for lack of a better phrase) in this time period and to forward her to my present. Our capacity to Jump is limited at this time. We can't send large numbers of Pathfinders to the same region of time/space without compromising the ability to bring them back. Too many quantum probability fluctuations cause the branching to grow beyond our current ability to lock on to a particular Observation Point in space/time. It's like making a map, then making a bunch of changes to the geography and then trying to find your way to anywhere based on the old map.

There are no "safe" zones. Satellite guidance systems are destroyed early on in the 3rd Great War. The initial strike on the US included half a dozen or so thermonuclear detonations at high altitude that covered 90% of the landmass in massive EMPs. This killed just about all non-hardened electronics - certainly most consumer electronics. For the most part, the lights just went out and people wondered what happened. With no way to communicate, the majority of people had no idea that D-Day had arrived...at least until the ground was struck.

ICBMs & SLBMs are moderately accurate at best. Most of them hit their intended targets, some of them don't.

The attacks come in waves. First, major military installations and places with runways that can support long range bombers are hit. This also includes highways with long stretches of straight road that could support a landing of a long range bomber. That last bit, was a surprise to most of us.

Second, major metropolitan centers are hit, almost universally. The "government" was an intricate network of controls and assets and was no longer centralized in "Washington" or the "Pentagon". It was a net spread across all of our cities. The attacks were ostensibly designed to destroy the oppressor of the people - hence they targeted the cities. Same story as in Iraq or Afghanistan in your time. This time it's just other people doing it to us, just as other nations are doing it to them at the same time. It’s a quick game of intrigue and backstabbing. In reality, the only point was to destroy foreign infrastructures so as to cripple your enemy so that they must rely on you for survival in exchange for resources that you want. The whole thing was just a collective grasp for straws as the world was collapsing on the back of the global economic bubble.

I don't remember mentioning solar flares, but there are some that happen. The sun does go into a more active cycle, but nothing extraordinary. There are a few transient outages here and there, but nothing of real note.

Elenin is a non-event.

Earth changes are plenty, but most of them are societal and not environmental (unless you count fall-out and lack of any real infrastructure).

There have been no ET contacts in my life time.

The war is fought first within the developed nations as a sort of civil war where the people of the world struggle against their respective governments. Then, eventually, the war is fought globally. The usual players are involved - Russia, China, European Union, Japan, etc. Iran, Pakistan and India are wiped out pretty quickly during the early stages. They had just enough fire power to be a threat, but not enough to withstand the combined attacks of the major players. As the attacks play out, all nations are eventually reduced to retreat in order to lick their wounds. “Mutually Assured Destruction” is about right.

It's amazing how fast the will to fight will leave you when you watch millions people being vaporized in 15 seconds. It's a whole other ballgame when you get to that level. All your absurd posturing and rethoric will suddenly seem childish in the face of the ultimate destruction. If you thought watching the 9-11 tragedy unfold on TV was rough, just wait a few years. You will cry your eyes out as you watch humanities lowest moment unfold before you. The monstrosity of these events can’t be put into adequate words.


The one memory that is most precious to me is watching the life drain from the eyes of the man that killed my wife in a struggle over a half filled water canteen. It was shortly after the end of the Great War. It's the one time I felt like I was able to do *something* about all of the evil around me.

I would begin it with "I am Simon Ordo."

People have taken to band together in. Children have been almost universally taken in. It is seen as a civic duty at this point. Children are much more precious in 15 years than they are now. Many women are apparently unable to have children due to radiation induced sterility. Children are the keepers of our tenuous future. Everyone left understands this and takes part in educating and teaching the young.

My daughter still lives. She has taken to a quiet life with her husband. Unlike many, she is not involved with the military. I have no grandchildren as of the moment, and probably won't have any. My daughter was still quote young when the radiation came. My wife was murdered shortly after the Great War. She had something that was worth more to someone than the life she had. By the time I realized what was happening, it was too late.
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You are wrong as well...

For what purpose is Mr. Cometwatch selling us this BS exactly?
 Quoting: Moon Dog


To get hits on his YT channel that he's running adds and to get hits on his website. He KNOWS what the truth is and he purposely removes any comments pointing it out.

Go watch his video where he asks people to show him how the pleiades on the HI1 camera, in which he refers to a middle object(Mars) as jupiter and earth, can show up on the HI2 camera. Earth NEVER shows up on either stereo A or B with the HI1 cameras.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1566133


Dude, that sounds complicated.

All we are talking about is Stereo B being pointed a little right of normal with no Sun in the image and another object coming into it almost as if it was following JPLs model for "Comet Elenin", that's pretty simple right?
 Quoting: Moon Dog


The object you speak of was too far above the ecliptic plane to be elenin anyways. Not to mention we have all sorts of videos of Elenin being a comet. Now all of a sudden it's an object bigger than Jupiter? What's more believable?
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There is no comet, never has been, you're referring to disinfo, and yes look at the footage it is bigger than Jupiter, and no it's not too far above the eclptic.
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Large Object on SOHO is Not Elenin...

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Moon dog....... you can only warn the people and present the evidence.
What they do with it is their business.
The trolls will debate this forever even till the last hour.
No evidence will be enough for they Choose it to not be so.

If they choose to be physically and more importantly spiritually unprepared then, this is their choice.

I thank you for having the guts to present this and for sticking around and taking their fears and anger.
Peace brother
Bruce
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I don't believe he thinks this is BS. I just believe like others he is mistaken and the only thing preventing him from acknowledging he was wrong is his pride.
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I'm ok with that, but he has told you what he thinks is going on in the video, why do you think he is mistaken?
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At first I believed him. I saw his video first and didn't know what I was looking at. I read youtube comments about what various people thought it may be. I downloaded stellarium and looked at JPL models. I couldn't verify one thing or another. Then I came across Tbar's video that explained the object in a way that I understood. It does not say the object is Mercury, nor did Tbar say the object Pleiades was there last year so that is what it is. That explanation was what Mr. Cometwatch debunked.

The documentation along with the models and the videos shows us that the object coming into Stereo B September 18 or 19, can't remember is 19 degrees just like the beginning of Stereo B, above the ecliptic plane, and is in the spot where Pleiades would be.

Why hasn't Mr. Cometwatch addressed the idea of this being Pleiades this year based upon the whole 19 degree theory by Tbar. The only thing he has debunked was the theory that was wrong to begin with and that has given fuel to his fire.
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Folks, all i can tell you is that this "object" is not Pleiades, he has tried to explain that, look at his other videos.
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Also if this object is able to be seen in HD view then that means the object is viewable other ways than infrared. With this being true...The Brown Dwarf Star being invisible to conventional methods has to be incorrect. Therefore an object larger than Jupiter that is as close as this object is claimed to be would have to be visible to the naked eye. However it's not and it is Pleiades.
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Yea it is and if your listening to this dumbass Mrcometwatch who claimed in a previous video he could see earth in the Stereo B HI1 camera then there is no hope for ya. Which bye the way is the method he's used to turn the pleiades into a disentgrated comet.

People have made videos and left numerous comments explaining the viewing angles of camera HI1 and HI2 and he removes them within minutes so knowone can see the truth.

He's purposely selling this BS.
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You are wrong as well...

For what purpose is Mr. Cometwatch selling us this BS exactly?
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To get hits on his YT channel that he's running adds and to get hits on his website. He KNOWS what the truth is and he purposely removes any comments pointing it out.

Go watch his video where he asks people to show him how the pleiades on the HI1 camera, in which he refers to a middle object(Mars) as jupiter and earth, can show up on the HI2 camera. Earth NEVER shows up on either stereo A or B with the HI1 cameras.
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Dude, that sounds complicated.

All we are talking about is Stereo B being pointed a little right of normal with no Sun in the image and another object coming into it almost as if it was following JPLs model for "Comet Elenin", that's pretty simple right?
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For the last time.

HI1&2 on both stereo A&B point in front of the sun and towards earth. Camera HI1 points roughly 4 degrees from the center of the sun with a viewing angle of 20 degrees towards earth. Camera HI2 points roughly 19 degrees from the center of the sun with a 70 degree viewing angle towards earth.
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Thanks BRO!

Dont lose hope GLP'rs Doom is on the horizon! Expect the unexpected. If someone is predicting it, its most likely WRONG! Thanks for Watching.

Large Object on SOHO is Not Elenin...


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Moon dog....... you can only warn the people and present the evidence.
What they do with it is their business.
The trolls will debate this forever even till the last hour.
No evidence will be enough for they Choose it to not be so.

If they choose to be physically and more importantly spiritually unprepared then, this is their choice.

I thank you for having the guts to present this and for sticking around and taking their fears and anger.
Peace brother
Bruce
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There has been zero evidence. ZERO. Prophecies and experience on something that has NEVER happened is not evidence.
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To get hits on his YT channel that he's running adds and to get hits on his website. He KNOWS what the truth is and he purposely removes any comments pointing it out.

Go watch his video where he asks people to show him how the pleiades on the HI1 camera, in which he refers to a middle object(Mars) as jupiter and earth, can show up on the HI2 camera. Earth NEVER shows up on either stereo A or B with the HI1 cameras.
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Dude, that sounds complicated.

All we are talking about is Stereo B being pointed a little right of normal with no Sun in the image and another object coming into it almost as if it was following JPLs model for "Comet Elenin", that's pretty simple right?
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The object you speak of was too far above the ecliptic plane to be elenin anyways. Not to mention we have all sorts of videos of Elenin being a comet. Now all of a sudden it's an object bigger than Jupiter? What's more believable?
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There is no comet, never has been, you're referring to disinfo, and yes look at the footage it is bigger than Jupiter, and no it's not too far above the eclptic.
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So all the pictures from MSM and AMATEUR astronomers are all part of some large cover up? Average Joe Smo would be able to see something this big this close with his telescope if it was indeed a Brown Dwarf Star. This thing is not invisible as it's been seen from the HD viewer so special equipment is NOT required. You haven't addressed that yet.
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Dude, that sounds complicated.

All we are talking about is Stereo B being pointed a little right of normal with no Sun in the image and another object coming into it almost as if it was following JPLs model for "Comet Elenin", that's pretty simple right?
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The object you speak of was too far above the ecliptic plane to be elenin anyways. Not to mention we have all sorts of videos of Elenin being a comet. Now all of a sudden it's an object bigger than Jupiter? What's more believable?
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There is no comet, never has been, you're referring to disinfo, and yes look at the footage it is bigger than Jupiter, and no it's not too far above the eclptic.
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So all the pictures from MSM and AMATEUR astronomers are all part of some large cover up? Average Joe Smo would be able to see something this big this close with his telescope if it was indeed a Brown Dwarf Star. This thing is not invisible as it's been seen from the HD viewer so special equipment is NOT required. You haven't addressed that yet.
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Nope, you're getting the good stuff from the MSM, nothing to see here.

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