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Abaddon / Apollyon is the Prince of Israel who must appear first before Christ returns

 
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Well then, there's no point discussing with you :)
 Quoting: Anti-GLP Effect


There are probably 10,000 ways--"their name is legion"--in which the "beast of the earth" consciousness of the 'thinker' claims to be 'God'.

This is one of them.

4Q529
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As-Salamu Alaykum
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Basically, he's one of those people who use pre-used arguments in all of their conversations. And well, for now, you need to be a Muslim for him to use one of those pre-used arguments...otherwise he doesn't have much to say.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1513433


Well, what is going on here is a Warfare between Truth and falsehood; between the Revelation of Knowledge and the thoughts concocted by the dualistic, 'fallen' consciousness.

And, as stated in Isaiah: "My thoughts are not your thoughts and My ways are not your ways. As high as the heavens are above the earth are My thoughts above your thoughts, My ways above your ways."

And, according to the Quran: "Allah will hurl Truth against falsehood until only Truth reigns supreme."

And, again, "Allah's Strategy is certain."

And, in The Art of War, Sun Tzu emphasizes the advantages of formlessness.

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I have read the Quran and the Hadiths. I am not claiming to be an Islamic scholar, but I know enough about Islam.
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"I know enough about Islam."

What's that supposed to mean?

That you can't learn any more about Islam?

Or you don't want to know anything more about Islam?

That you know everything that you need to know about Islam?

And what is the relationship, if any, between what is referred to as Islam and the Revelations that were received by Mohammed?

Are they the same thing?

Oh, that's right.

You can't answer my questions until you know who I am and what I believe, if anything.

4Q529
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you sound like a mad dog... monster
"They took what they wanted ... and they wanted the world!"

"The thunder of their plundering shook the earth, the seas, the sky!"

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Basically, he's one of those people who use pre-used arguments in all of their conversations. And well, for now, you need to be a Muslim for him to use one of those pre-used arguments...otherwise he doesn't have much to say.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1513433


Well, what is going on here is a Warfare between Truth and falsehood; between the Revelation of Knowledge and the thoughts concocted by the dualistic, 'fallen' consciousness.

And, as stated in Isaiah: "My thoughts are not your thoughts and My ways are not your ways. As high as the heavens are above the earth are My thoughts above your thoughts, My ways above your ways."

And, according to the Quran: "Allah will hurl Truth against falsehood until only Truth reigns supreme."

And, again, "Allah's Strategy is certain."

And, in The Art of War, Sun Tzu emphasizes the advantages of formlessness.

4Q529
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Why do you have to feel so threatened when I said Israel is protected by their Prince, Michael?

Is it because you are wishing the destruction of Israel?

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Why do you have to feel so threatened when I said Israel is protected by their Prince, Michael?
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Threatened?

How could I possibly be threatened by such a ridiculous assumption?

Who am I?

What difference does it make to me?

Is it because you are wishing the destruction of Israel?
 Quoting: Anti-GLP Effect


You might want to investigate just a little into what the Neturei Karta folks say about the Israel.

That it is not, in any way, the personification of the Jewish people that the Zionists claim.

That, instead, it is the "golden calf" that is being worshipped by the Zionists because of the "tarrying" of the messiah.

The Israel is a secular entity; an entity created by the 'fallen' consciousness, no different that the golden calf worshiped by the Israelites while Moses "tarried" on Mt. Sinai.

And, in accordance with the Righteousness of God, the consequences of that idolatry will be the same.

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BTW... BABYLON THE GREAT, THE MOTHER OF HARLOTS IS NOT THE HARLOT... ALL WHO LIVES IN BABYLON MUST COME OUT OF HER... SINCE SHE WILL BE DESTROYED WITH THE SECOND ASTEROID IN LESS THAN A HOUR... BABYLON THE GREAT GONE.
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So, you are claiming to be a prophet?

What is the source of your authority?

BABYLON IS EUROPE... AND THE HARLOT IS THE MAN MADE STATE KNOWN NOW AS ISRAEL,
 Quoting: Gogh


First things first.

We have not yet established that you have any authority for anything that you say.

Let's first determine if you have any authority.

Then we can determine whether what you say makes any sense at all.

AND SHALL BE DESTROYED BY THE first BEAST. THIS WILL HAPPEN BEFORE THE FIRST ASTEROID HITS THE OCEAN... WORMWOOD.
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What precisely is the "first beast" which arises out of the sea?

4Q529
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And what is your authority?
"They took what they wanted ... and they wanted the world!"

"The thunder of their plundering shook the earth, the seas, the sky!"

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Revelation has already happened.

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And what is your authority?
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I do not need any authority to ask you what your authority is.

You tell me what your 'authority' is, and I will answer your question.

My guess?

Ain't gonna happen.

'Cause you ain't got none.

And you know that.

It's just that, my guess, no one has ever asked you that before.

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And what is your authority?
 Quoting: Gogh


I do not need any authority to ask you what your authority is.

You tell me what your 'authority' is, and I will answer your question.

My guess?

Ain't gonna happen.

'Cause you ain't got none.

And you know that.

It's just that, my guess, no one has ever asked you that before.

4Q529
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I don't lose my time with arguing against a kid... and I never argue with turic mongols.
"They took what they wanted ... and they wanted the world!"

"The thunder of their plundering shook the earth, the seas, the sky!"

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I don't lose my time with arguing against a kid... and I never argue with turic mongols.
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As I said: My guess? Ain't gonna happen.

(And, in any case, Jesus said "Unless you become like little children...")

And, having no authority at all--in any case, no more authority than Paul, the apostle of the Gentiles--you may very well accumulate any number of gullible followers around you.

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I don't lose my time with arguing against a kid... and I never argue with turic mongols.
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As I said: My guess? Ain't gonna happen.

(And, in any case, Jesus said "Unless you become like little children...")

And, having no authority at all--in any case, no more authority than Paul, the apostle of the Gentiles--you may very well accumulate any number of gullible followers around you.

4Q529
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what is not gone to happen? anyway why do you sound like a mad Pig? Kolchak
"They took what they wanted ... and they wanted the world!"

"The thunder of their plundering shook the earth, the seas, the sky!"

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1 The fifth angel sounded his trumpet, and I saw a star that had fallen from the sky to the earth. The star was given the key to the shaft of the Abyss. 2 When he opened the Abyss, smoke rose from it like the smoke from a gigantic furnace. The sun and sky were darkened by the smoke from the Abyss. 3 And out of the smoke locusts came down on the earth and were given power like that of scorpions of the earth. 4 They were told not to harm the grass of the earth or any plant or tree, but only those people who did not have the seal of God on their foreheads. 11 They had as king over them the angel of the Abyss, whose name in Hebrew is Abaddon and in Greek is Apollyon (that is, Destroyer).
 Quoting: Revelation 9



The Seven Churches of the Revelation of John correspond, with certain changes, to the seven chakras of kundalini. The 7 angels of the 7 churches correspond to the emotions experienced at each of those chakras.

The fifth trumpet is experienced at the Fifth Church or chakra, the throat chakra, and corresponds to sorrow.

1 And I saw an angel coming down out of heaven, having the key to the Abyss and holding in his hand a great chain. 2 He seized the dragon, that ancient serpent, who is the devil, or Satan, and bound him for a thousand years. 3 He threw him into the Abyss, and locked and sealed it over him, to keep him from deceiving the nations anymore until the thousand years were ended. After that, he must be set free for a short time.
 Quoting: Anti-GLP Effect


This angel is not one the seven angels of the Seven Churches.

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This angel is not one the seven angels of the Seven Churches.

4Q529
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Exactly. He is the one who rules over the abyss (aka outer darkness)

"....a constellation of dark new worlds"

"Now what would be the odds of that? This dark army at the feet of a lone outlaw"

Aerion, Chronicles of Riddick
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This angel is not one the seven angels of the Seven Churches.

4Q529
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Exactly. He is the one who rules over the abyss (aka outer darkness)
 Quoting: THE PRIME PROGRAM


Speculation by the "beast of the earth" consciousness of the 'thinker', which cannot apprehend the Knowledge Revealed through the Vision of Knowledge.

The only clue necessary to know what this "angel" is is the term "1000 years"; which, also, corresponds to the "seven thousand" people killed in the earthquake in Revelations 11:13.

Your answer is the expected inversion of the Truth characteristically assumed with absolute certainty by the 'fallen' consciousness.

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For me to answer your questions, I need to know first who you are and what you believe.
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Why do you need to know who I am in order to answer my questions?

That's one of the most ridiculous things I have heard in a long time.

When you go to an Information desk at an airport, do they ask for your name before they tell you where United Airlines flight 1203 is?

And why is it necessary for me to believe anything?

Maybe I'm still searching and have not made up my 'mind' as to what I believe.

So that is considered by you to be grounds for not answering my questions?

Bizarre.

4Q529
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The reason he asks is because he wants to put you in a box. That way it is easier for him to both approach and judge your beliefs. Without that box, he does not know how to approach you nor is he able to really judge you(he might be judging himself).

Basically, he's one of those people who use pre-used arguments in all of their conversations. And well, for now, you need to be a Muslim for him to use one of those pre-used arguments...otherwise he doesn't have much to say.

Knowledge is power.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1513433

"If you bring forth what is within you, what you have will save you. If you do not have that within you, what you do not have within you [will] kill you."

"Whoever has come to know the world has discovered a carcass, and whoever has discovered a carcass, of that person the world is not worthy."

"Those who know all, but are lacking in themselves, are utterly lacking."
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It's all nonsense.

The man has no Knowledge whatsoever, not having received the Vision of Knowledge.

Apocalypse means unveiling or Revelation.

"The time is now" signifies that the consciousness of the 'thinker' cannot apprehend this Knowledge.

Both Freud and Einstein independently established that time is a construct of the consciousness of the 'thinker'.

The "time of the End" also means "the End of time" or "the time is now". All signify that the Revelation of Knowledge occurs against the background of the annihilation of the "beast of the earth" consciousness of the 'thinker' as well as the "beast of the sea" consciousness of the "self" (which is the origin of the concept of space).

The seven heads are the seven chakras of kundalini and the Seven Churches. The ten horns pertain to the ten phonetic tones and how they are distributed across the Seven Churches in a geometry similar to the Kabbalist "Tree of Life" (Genesis 3:24).

Scripture does not 'interpret' Scripture.

Nowhere in the Scriptures does it say that the "Tree of Life" is the same as the Vision of the "Son of man" or the "Night Journey" of Mohammed.

Nowhere in the Scriptures does it say that Genesis 2:7 is the Revelation of the Memory of Creation or that Matthew 27:52 and Luke 20:34-36 and Isaiah 26:19 is the revelation of the memories of previous lives.

Nowhere in the Scriptures does it say that the consciousness Created 'by and in the image of God' (Genesis 1:27) is a non-spatial (or 2-dimensional 'flat' space), non-temporal, non-dualistic "observing consciousness"; and that the 'fallen' consciousness originates in the dualizing 'movement' of self-reflection symbolized by the "dragon" and the "serpent".

This Knowledge is accessible only to those who have themselves received the Vision and the Revelation of the "resurrection".

There is not ONE media official on this planet that would be willing to publicize such Revealed Knowledge.

4Q529

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It's all nonsense.

The man has no Knowledge whatsoever, not having received the Vision of Knowledge.


4Q529
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norespect
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OP you have it all wrong , Abaddon and Apollyon are just the names of Satan in Hebrew and Greek so there is no mistaken who was being spoken of. I guess you it did not work in your case.

The arch angel Michael is the same angel who throws Satan put of heave on Revelation 12 and locks him back up in chapter 20.
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Abad-don/din... should be translated to "slave of faith"...

And

Apo-l-lyon... follower of the LION...

Arch Angel Michael is JESUS himself... Remember Jesus went up? its than he became the Arch Angel Michael...

And "The Warrior of the Light"... Is the other name of Jesus in the Bible...

"When he opened the Abyss, smoke rose from it like the smoke from a gigantic furnace."

The Furnace is the Lake of Fire... where evil will be rendered to ashes...
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Thread: the 144,000 of revelations are musicians!?! (Page 11)

this may interest you dude! It seems most musicians are working for Jesus or Michael... Check into it!

May surprise you! Life changing if you let it be!

In Joy!
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I remember when I went to a big religion, they told us all to stay away from debased rock music..I see why now...because it wakes you up...the lyrics
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Religions are idolatry and appear as an angel of light, to hold man captive of controlled thoughts. In fact she is the whore, the adulterous woman Proverbs speaks of. We were warned to guard our thinking abilities.




Proverbs 5
Warning Against Adultery

1 My son, pay attention to my wisdom,
turn your ear to my words of insight,

2 that you may maintain discretion
and your lips may preserve knowledge.

3 For the lips of the adulterous woman drip honey,
and her speech is smoother than oil;

4 but in the end she is bitter as gall,
sharp as a double-edged sword.

5 Her feet go down to death;
her steps lead straight to the grave.

6 She gives no thought to the way of life;
her paths wander aimlessly, but she does not know it.

7 Now then, my sons, listen to me;
do not turn aside from what I say.

8 Keep to a path far from her,
do not go near the door of her house,

9 lest you lose your honor to others
and your dignity[a] to one who is cruel,

10 lest strangers feast on your wealth
and your toil enrich the house of another.

11 At the end of your life you will groan,
when your flesh and body are spent.

12 You will say, “How I hated discipline!
How my heart spurned correction!

13 I would not obey my teachers (Wisdom's School)
or turn my ear to my instructors.

14 And I was soon in serious trouble
in the assembly of God’s people.”

15 Drink water from your own cistern, (from the secret place of the heart)

running water from your own well.

16 Should your springs overflow in the streets,
your streams of water in the public squares?

17 Let them be yours alone,
never to be shared with strangers.

18 May your fountain be blessed, (Wisdom)
and may you rejoice in the wife of your youth.

19 A loving doe, a graceful deer—
may her breasts satisfy you always,
may you ever be intoxicated with her love. (Wisdom)

20 Why, my son, be intoxicated with another man’s wife?
Why embrace the bosom of a wayward woman? (whore religion)

21 For your ways are in full view of the LORD,
and he examines all your paths.

22 The evil deeds of the wicked ensnare them;
the cords of their sins hold them fast.

23 For lack of discipline they will die,
led astray by their own great folly.
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Proverbs 4:7
Wisdom is the principal thing; therefore get wisdom: and with all thy getting get understanding.

Proverbs 4:5 Get wisdom, get understanding; do not forget my words or swerve from them.

Proverbs 8:23 I was appointed from eternity, from the beginning, before the world began.

Proverbs 23:23 Buy the truth and do not sell it; get wisdom, discipline and understanding.


Ask God alone to send you Wisdom from His throne, and He will if you are sincere in heart.
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I AM GOD AND I AM THE SOURCE, LORD OF LORD KING OF KINGZ

hf
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you cannot expect anyone to believe this





shark


watch that churning in the water behind you-IT'S COMING
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you'll bow down to apollo alright.

you'll be the 1st to take the mark of the beast.
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Michael will come as the angel/messenger of Christ who comes before him, anyone who rejects Michael when he appears also rejects Christ who sent him and will not be saved.
 Quoting: Anti-GLP Effect


Now you are sounding like Mary in her thread:

Thread: Soon you will no longer receive the Eucharist.
Love is a state of Being. Your love is not outside; it is deep within you. You can never lose it, and it cannot leave you. You can feel the same life deep within every other human and every other creature. You look beyond the veil of form and separation. This is the realization of oneness. This is love. What is God? The Eternal One Life underneath all the forms of life. What is love? To feel the presence of that One Life deep within yourself and within all creatures. To be it. Therefore, all love is the love of God.

Death is a stripping away of all that is not you. The secret of life is to die before you die - and find that there is no death.
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Nice ! It is time.

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I belong to the one who destoys all the lies, the scorpions. I saw this is a vision. I even saw the angels coming with long hair to harm the ones without the seal of GOD.
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Nice ! It is time.

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September 6th.2011

I was dreaming and said outloud, "Remember the white horse Faithful and True?

This is who I am, and also called the bride of Christ." Christ and I are one. He is my true husband,

I was sent in His own name, as above, so below

I belong to the one who destoys all the lies, the scorpions. I saw this is a vision. I even saw the angels coming with long hair to harm the ones without the seal of GOD.
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Apophis ... asteroid 2004 MN4

It will only take a slight nudge to make this thing hit... and you know someone is going to try and move it.

[link to science.nasa.gov]
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Satan, that old serpent is God's instrument of deception, it doesn't make him good. He will be thrown into the lake of fire, as will Nimrod/Osiris/Apollyon/Apollo etc ad nauseum.

Michael is NOT the same entity.
 Quoting: Needles Eye


You portray God and His angels as though they are not capable of wrath. Well bad news to you, God has seven bowls filled with His wrath and He uses His angels to pour them on the earth:
1 Then I heard a loud voice from the temple saying to the seven angels, “Go, pour out the seven bowls of God’s wrath on the earth.”
2 The first angel went and poured out his bowl on the land, and ugly, festering sores broke out on the people who had the mark of the beast and worshiped its image.
 Quoting: Revelation 16

 Quoting: Anti-GLP Effect




I saw the wrath..the sores all over those without God's mark.

They are in room 222. In sick beds. I saw the scientolgy ones all dieing from their sores and sickness in a giant warehouse with a big 222 on the front door.

rev. 2:22

Behold, I will throw her on a bed of sickness, and those who commit adultery with her into great tribulation, unless they repent of her deeds.
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Revelation 17:2 With her the kings of the earth committed adultery and the inhabitants of the earth were intoxicated with the wine of her adulteries."
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I had a vison where I saw a pretty older woman getting all dressed up and she was wearing purple and red . She had her luggage packed and she was leaving out the door.

Then I heard a voice say." 'THE WOMAN OF PURPLE AND SCARLET IS LEAVING...ARE YOU READY?
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you'll bow down to apollo alright.

you'll be the 1st to take the mark of the beast.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1556699


Michael will come as the angel/messenger of Christ who comes before him, anyone who rejects Michael when he appears also rejects Christ who sent him and will not be saved.
 Quoting: Anti-GLP Effect


You have no clue as to what you are talking about. Your lies just further confuse those seeking the truth and I will give you fare warning that judgement begins at the pulpit and this is your pulpit. Repent and ask forgiveness for doing the work of Abaddon/ Apollyon.

The mark of the beast in your head is following Satan weather by false teachings or openly and the mark in your hand means to physically do the work of Satan . Your false teachings are doing his work so you have the mark In Your hand repent.

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