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4Q529 User ID: 1871563 United States 09/24/2011 04:00 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | According to The Treatise On the Resurrection found at Nag Hammadi, Egypt, there are 3 resurrections: 1) the "physical" resurrection--'rebirth' 2) the "psychic" resurrection--the revelation of the memories of previous lives; and, 3) the "spiritual" resurrection--the Revelation of the Memory of Creation and the non-spatial (or 2-dimensional 'flat'-space), non-temporal consciousness Created 'by and in the image of God' (Genesis 1:27). 4Q529 |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1258755 United States 09/24/2011 04:40 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Ask the proctologist to reattach your finger? Ask the baker to remover a portion of your lower bowel? Ask the bumble bee to marry the fly? Ask the mortician to do your wedding make up? Uuuh lets see ask the drunk for a ride home and he drives? Ask the atheist to baptise you? No it is better to ask Dr.Stupid..... |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1452793 United States 09/24/2011 05:33 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | In 2nd Thessalonians Chapter 2 God describes the coming of the wicked one, the "Son of perdition" Quoting: Needles Eye Greek word for perdition: Word: apwleia Pronounce: ap-o'-li-a Strongs Number: G684 Orig: from a presumed derivative of 622; ruin or loss (physical, spiritual or eternal):--damnable(-nation), destruction, die, perdition, X perish, pernicious ways, waste. G622 That's not the "sun/son" I'll be following. The term "Son of perdition was also used in John 17:12 12 While I was with them in the world, I kept them in thy name: those that thou gavest me I have kept, and none of them is lost, but the son of perdition; that the scripture might be fulfilled. Quoting: King James Version John 17[link to www.biblegateway.com] Now see how the New International Version translates the same verse: 12 While I was with them, I protected them and kept them safe by[a] that name you gave me. None has been lost except the one doomed to destruction so that Scripture would be fulfilled. Quoting: New International Version John 17[link to www.biblegateway.com] And see how the New International Version translates the term "Son of Perdition" in 2 Thessalonians 2: 3 Dont let anyone deceive you in any way, for that day will not come until the rebellion occurs and the man of lawlessness is revealed, the man doomed to destruction. Quoting: New International Version 2 Thessalonians 2[link to www.biblegateway.com] Apollyon is the Destroyer, he is not the antichrist who is "the one doomed to destruction". Never use niv,If you do a study on niv you will understand.NIV is a corrupt version. |
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Anti-GLP Effect (OP) User ID: 1669500 Philippines 09/24/2011 05:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Michael will come as the angel/messenger of Christ who comes before him, anyone who rejects Michael when he appears also rejects Christ who sent him and will not be saved. Quoting: Anti-GLP Effect Really? Do you have a scriptural reference for this? 4Q529 Do you really think that by rejecting Michael the Archangel you will not be rejecting Christ who sent him? 16 He who listens to you listens to me; he who rejects you rejects me; but he who rejects me rejects him who sent me. Quoting: Luke 1016 I, Jesus, have sent my angel to give you this testimony for the churches. I am the Root and the Offspring of David, and the bright Morning Star. Quoting: Revelation 22The recent perfect alignment between comet Elenin and Venus (the bright Morning Star) last 9/22 this year (with comet Elenin coming in front of Venus) is for me a sign of the soon appearance of this angel whom Christ has sent before his return. When Christ came down from heaven, majority of Israel rejected him and this resulted to the offer of salvation to the Gentiles. When Michael, the Prince of Israel, appears in these last days after coming down from heaven, many Gentiles will reject him and this will result to the offer of salvation to Israel. The veil covering Israel's eyes will finally be removed. Last Edited by The Opened Scroll on 09/24/2011 05:37 PM So I have written it, so it shall be done! [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] |
4Q529 User ID: 1928905 United States 09/24/2011 08:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The one 'doomed to destruction', huh? Quoting: 4Q529 I was 'thinking' Paul. For turning the Teaching of Jesus on the Doctrine of "resurrection" (as a Doctrine of 'Rebirth') upside down. 4Q529 Many people are followers of Saul believing that they are followers of Christ. But this, of course, is insufficient. Not only is it important to understand that Jesus taught the Doctrine of "resurrection" as a Doctrine of 'Rebirth'--which, of course, was the reason why he was crucified in the first place (while the Pharisees, and Paul, taught the Egyptian doctrine of a physical raising of a dead body from the grave). It is also necessary to understand that Mohammed is, specifically, the fulfillment of the Prophecy of Jesus (and Malachi) that Elijah (and John the Baptist) would return; and that Mohammed also taught the Doctrine of "resurrection" as a Doctrine of 'Rebirth'. And this, obviously, is of immediate relevance with regards to the manner in which Jesus and Elijah and John the Baptist, etc. etc. etc. are to return; that is, not by flying white horses out of the sky, but through the physical resurrection or 'rebirth'. In other words, this one doctrinal error completely vitiates the Satanic doctrines of Egyptian-Pharisaical Christian theology; which, unbeknownst to the vast majority of people, led quite directly to the Holocaust. 4Q529 Last Edited by 4Q529 on 09/24/2011 08:46 PM |
4Q529 User ID: 1928905 United States 09/24/2011 08:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Michael will come as the angel/messenger of Christ who comes before him, anyone who rejects Michael when he appears also rejects Christ who sent him and will not be saved. Quoting: Anti-GLP Effect Really? Do you have a scriptural reference for this? 4Q529 Do you really think that by rejecting Michael the Archangel you will not be rejecting Christ who sent him? 16 He who listens to you listens to me; he who rejects you rejects me; but he who rejects me rejects him who sent me. Quoting: Luke 1016 I, Jesus, have sent my angel to give you this testimony for the churches. I am the Root and the Offspring of David, and the bright Morning Star. Quoting: Revelation 22The recent perfect alignment between comet Elenin and Venus (the bright Morning Star) last 9/22 this year (with comet Elenin coming in front of Venus) is for me a sign of the soon appearance of this angel whom Christ has sent before his return. When Christ came down from heaven, majority of Israel rejected him and this resulted to the offer of salvation to the Gentiles. When Michael, the Prince of Israel, appears in these last days after coming down from heaven, many Gentiles will reject him and this will result to the offer of salvation to Israel. The veil covering Israel's eyes will finally be removed. What, precisely, is meant by the term "Archangel" and what is its meaning in the context of Luke 20:34-36? And where, precisely, does it say that Michael will "come down from heaven"? Even the worst possible translation of Daniel 12:1 asserts not that Michael will "come down from heaven"; but, rather, that he will "stand up". So, I repeat my question: What scriptural evidence do you have for your assertion? And what, if anything, is the relevance of the name Michael in Sura 2:98 of the Quran or Column XVII of the Scroll of the War of the Sons of Light? In other words, is that Michael an "apostle of Allah", or is he the "Archangel"--whatever that means? 4Q529 |
4Q529 User ID: 1928905 United States 09/24/2011 08:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Are you, then, a prophet that you should say such a thing? And what is the source of your 'authority' for being such a 'prophet'...? In less than 20 words, please. 4Q529 Last Edited by 4Q529 on 09/24/2011 08:57 PM |
Sungaze_At_Dawn User ID: 1458670 Canada 09/24/2011 08:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The Prince Of Israel, the chief angel of the abyss, the destroyer! Well, thats really the shadow. Also known as Quetzcoatl And the signs are now here for both the revelations and the red dragon, and at the end of Oct for the Mayan dark knight. There are opposite polarities involved, and this is not Love and Goodness. The Devil tries to convince everyone he doesn't exist. The state tries to convince everyone they cannot resist. Do not go quietly into the good night. Rage Rage against the dying light! |
Morrigan User ID: 1929653 Ireland 09/24/2011 08:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Understand this. If some celestial being is going to return, it's not going to be your Christ. You are naive children to think that time and agenda have not warped the truth into fables your simple minds can grasp. What you worship as a deity is not the "god" of your holy texts. You invite interstellar war on a scale you cannot even begin to comprehend. Your greedy souls salivate at the thought of eternal life and perpetual bliss as ascended beings. But all you will be is collateral damage. All you are is children trying to describe creatures and events you have no words for. Gods and miracles... The simplistic language of primitive children. You don't know what you are asking for. |
Guildenstern User ID: 1552352 United States 09/24/2011 09:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ...what I see instead are people obstructing what is says to fit their own personal interpretations. Our goal is to test all things not insist all things. Most of the posts here in regard to interpretation do not hold up under well-versed, theological scrutiny. Do not lean upon your understanding my friends. I hope your hearts are what God sees above all, for your minds have become subject to misleading. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1547324 United States 09/24/2011 09:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | OP you have it all wrong , Abaddon and Apollyon are just the names of Satan in Hebrew and Greek so there is no mistaken who was being spoken of. I guess you it did not work in your case. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1534164 The arch angel Michael is the same angel who throws Satan put of heave on Revelation 12 and locks him back up in chapter 20. Yes, Apollyon is NOT a good guy!! The locusts that attack those without the seal of God are screaming the dude's name! Yeah, but they only attack those who are evil. Plus these locust have hair like women, so they must be sexy locusts. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1532110 United States 09/24/2011 09:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | THE SHOCKING TRUTH OF APOLLYON THE MAN: !!!!!! And Nibiru the Destroyer King !!!!!! The Inner Mystery Now Revealed by an Initiate. Written by Apollo (Please read this with patience, and I will lead you into one of the Greatest Secrets) * There is a tale of a Second Sun, Niburu or Planet X that comes into our Solar Sytem and takes position behind our sun every 3,600 years. It is said that Niburu is already here or will be here in 2012 and is renowned to bring destruction, So what happened 3,600 years ago? Take the Shang Dynasty, they had very good astrologers, were noted comet enthusiasts and they recorded nothing.. Nor did any civilization record any cataclysmic event. * Lets look at the Akkadian Language. , It means "crossing" or "point of transition", especially of rivers. In Babylonian astronony its the Highest point of the Ecliptic, the Throne of God or Summer Solstice of Cancer, Now lets look at this again. In Revelation 12 it says that the woman will give birth to the man child and he will be taken up to Gods throne.. 5 And she gave birth to a son, a male child, who is to rule all the nations with a rod of iron; and her child was caught up to God and to His throne. * In the Enuma Elis it reads. "When Marduk fixed the locations (manzazu) of Nibiru, Enlil and Ea in the sky * So we have the seat of the summus deus, was considered the throne of Marduk, who pastured the sheep. This would fit in the man child of Revelation who is taken up to the throne.. In the constellations. It was Nibiru which was said to rise high during the Autumn Equinox, around Libra.. It is Jewish Tradition to expect the Crowned King at the New Year when the Shofar is Blown, Near Rosh Hashanah which is LIbra. Nibiru is described in this cuneiform tablet: Nibiru, which is said to have occupied the passageways of heaven and earth, because everyone above and below asks Nibiru if they cannot find the passage. Nibiru is Marduk's star which the gods in heaven caused to be visible. Nibiru stands as a post at the turning point. The others say of Nibiru the post: "The one who crosses the middle of the sea (Tiamat) without calm, may his name be Nibiru, for he takes up the center of it". The path of the stars of the sky should be kept unchanged.In the MUL.APIN Nibiru is identified as Jupiter: "When the stars of Enlil have been finished, one big star although its light is dim divides the sky in half and stands there: that is, the star of Marduk (MUL dAMAR.UD), Nibiru (né-bé-ru), Jupiter (MULSAG.ME.GAR); it keeps changing its position and crosses the sky." therefore from these texts, we see not a Stealth Star, but a Kings Star which is Jupiter, In Esoteric Theology, Jupiter is the Kings Planet. Its the planet of Exhaltation. . Its power crowns the King which takes his throne in Summer Solstice. Jupiter is exhalted in Cancer. and is declared the King of the Kingdom in the Fall... Now how could he be called the Destroyer... "And they had a king over them, [which is] the angel of the bottomless pit, whose name in the Hebrew tongue [is] Abaddon, but in the Greek tongue hath [his] name Apollyon" (Revelation 9:11). Apollyon is the English transliteration of the Greek word Apolluon, meaning "Destroyer". Strong's #622, apollumi, which is used 92 times and means, "1) to destroy; a) to put out of the way entirely, abolish, put an end to ruin; b) render useless; c) to kill; d) to declare that one must be put to death; e) metaph. to devote or give over to eternal misery in hell; f) to perish, to be lost, ruined, destroyed; 2) to destroy; a) to lose. In the Authorized Version (KJV), it is translated perish 33 times, destroy 26, lose 22, be lost 5, and lost 4 times. Is the King we await the Destroyer?? Does the destruction of earth commence at the crowing of this Sun Son? Are we actually awaiting a special conjunction of the Sun and Jupiter instead of the stealth planet x in hiding? Or are we awaiting a man that was already born with the special conjunction of the Sun, Jupiter. and curiously Mercury. Cause oddly the Tablets refer to Mercury as Nibiru as well: "If Mercury (MULUDU.IDIM.GU4) divides the sky and stands there, [its name] is Nibiru. Again, this is the Conjunction of Jupiter, Mercury, and the Sun which will herald in THE MAN. Conclusion, Nibiru is also A Man. Apollyon. who will have these signs as his birth. For he is the Sun, Son... and upon his wings, one is exhalted or is destroyed.... To be continued. |
4Q529 User ID: 1928905 United States 09/24/2011 09:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | There is so much misapplication of scripture here. I fear for so many of you. You have what appears to be good hearts, but your hearts should be eager for truth - the Bible should be able to speak for itself... Quoting: Guildenstern ...what I see instead are people obstructing what is says to fit their own personal interpretations. Our goal is to test all things not insist all things. Most of the posts here in regard to interpretation do not hold up under well-versed, theological scrutiny. Do not lean upon your understanding my friends. I hope your hearts are what God sees above all, for your minds have become subject to misleading. First of all, there is a difference between Knowledge and interpretation. Knowledge is received through the Vision of the "Son of man", the "Tree of Life" (Genesis 3:24), the "Vision of Wisdom" (1Enoch) the Vision of Knowledge" (the Thanksgiving Hymns of the Dead Sea Scrolls), the "Night Journey" of Mohammed (the Quran); and the Revelation of the "resurrection"--including the Revelation of the Memory of Creation (Genesis 2:7) and the revelation of the memories of previous lives (Isaiah 26:19, Daniel 12:2, Matthew 27:52 and Luke 20:34-36). Interpretation, on the other hand, originates in the "beast of the earth" (Revelations 13:11 and Sura 27:82 of the Quran) consciousness of the 'thinker' and/or the "beast of the sea" (Revelations 13:1) consciousness of the "self". 4Q529 |
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4Q529 User ID: 1928905 United States 09/24/2011 09:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Saddening, this is. It appears that after 1,600 years of existence, Christians are still in the dark about what their Bibles really say. Quoting: Guildenstern what do you mean? Well, just for starters: You don't know that Jesus was murdered for teaching the Doctrine of "resurrection" as a Doctrine of 'Rebirth'. And you don't know that Paul specifically contradicts the Doctrine of 'Rebirth' taught by Jesus; replacing it by the doctrine of "vicarious atonement" (as the 'explanation' for the crucifixion) for the specific purpose of preserving the Egyptian-Pharisaical doctrine of a physical raising of a dead body from the grave. This is just for starters. 4Q529 |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1532110 United States 09/24/2011 09:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | THE SHOCKING TRUTH OF APOLLYON THE MAN: !!!!!! And Nibiru the Destroyer King !!!!!! The Inner Mystery Now Revealed by an Initiate. Quoting: APOLLO ILLUMINAUGHTY Written by Apollo (Please read this with patience, and I will lead you into one of the Greatest Secrets) * There is a tale of a Second Sun, Niburu or Planet X that comes into our Solar Sytem and takes position behind our sun every 3,600 years. It is said that Niburu is already here or will be here in 2012 and is renowned to bring destruction, So what happened 3,600 years ago? Take the Shang Dynasty, they had very good astrologers, were noted comet enthusiasts and they recorded nothing.. Nor did any civilization record any cataclysmic event. * Lets look at the Akkadian Language. , It means "crossing" or "point of transition", especially of rivers. In Babylonian astronony its the Highest point of the Ecliptic, the Throne of God or Summer Solstice of Cancer, Now lets look at this again. In Revelation 12 it says that the woman will give birth to the man child and he will be taken up to Gods throne.. 5 And she gave birth to a son, a male child, who is to rule all the nations with a rod of iron; and her child was caught up to God and to His throne. * In the Enuma Elis it reads. "When Marduk fixed the locations (manzazu) of Nibiru, Enlil and Ea in the sky * So we have the seat of the summus deus, was considered the throne of Marduk, who pastured the sheep. This would fit in the man child of Revelation who is taken up to the throne.. In the constellations. It was Nibiru which was said to rise high during the Autumn Equinox, around Libra.. It is Jewish Tradition to expect the Crowned King at the New Year when the Shofar is Blown, Near Rosh Hashanah which is LIbra. Nibiru is described in this cuneiform tablet: Nibiru, which is said to have occupied the passageways of heaven and earth, because everyone above and below asks Nibiru if they cannot find the passage. Nibiru is Marduk's star which the gods in heaven caused to be visible. Nibiru stands as a post at the turning point. The others say of Nibiru the post: "The one who crosses the middle of the sea (Tiamat) without calm, may his name be Nibiru, for he takes up the center of it". The path of the stars of the sky should be kept unchanged.In the MUL.APIN Nibiru is identified as Jupiter: "When the stars of Enlil have been finished, one big star although its light is dim divides the sky in half and stands there: that is, the star of Marduk (MUL dAMAR.UD), Nibiru (né-bé-ru), Jupiter (MULSAG.ME.GAR); it keeps changing its position and crosses the sky." therefore from these texts, we see not a Stealth Star, but a Kings Star which is Jupiter, In Esoteric Theology, Jupiter is the Kings Planet. Its the planet of Exhaltation. . Its power crowns the King which takes his throne in Summer Solstice. Jupiter is exhalted in Cancer. and is declared the King of the Kingdom in the Fall... Now how could he be called the Destroyer... "And they had a king over them, [which is] the angel of the bottomless pit, whose name in the Hebrew tongue [is] Abaddon, but in the Greek tongue hath [his] name Apollyon" (Revelation 9:11). Apollyon is the English transliteration of the Greek word Apolluon, meaning "Destroyer". Strong's #622, apollumi, which is used 92 times and means, "1) to destroy; a) to put out of the way entirely, abolish, put an end to ruin; b) render useless; c) to kill; d) to declare that one must be put to death; e) metaph. to devote or give over to eternal misery in hell; f) to perish, to be lost, ruined, destroyed; 2) to destroy; a) to lose. In the Authorized Version (KJV), it is translated perish 33 times, destroy 26, lose 22, be lost 5, and lost 4 times. Is the King we await the Destroyer?? Does the destruction of earth commence at the crowing of this Sun Son? Are we actually awaiting a special conjunction of the Sun and Jupiter instead of the stealth planet x in hiding? Or are we awaiting a man that was already born with the special conjunction of the Sun, Jupiter. and curiously Mercury. Cause oddly the Tablets refer to Mercury as Nibiru as well: "If Mercury (MULUDU.IDIM.GU4) divides the sky and stands there, [its name] is Nibiru. Again, this is the Conjunction of Jupiter, Mercury, and the Sun which will herald in THE MAN. Conclusion, Nibiru is also A Man. Apollyon. who will have these signs as his birth. For he is the Sun, Son... and upon his wings, one is exhalted or is destroyed.... To be continued. Wow, I actually know what you are saying this time. TYVM. Did you see my post about what google is hiding? Oh yeah, Microsoft is hiding it too. I also think I know whom you are referring to. Communicating with you is like trying to put a puzzle together. Unlike that TT fellow whom I stopped trying to figure out. Yes, Genie ! thank you my friend It is almost time Do not be afraid of the changes that will take place It will usher in a better world. |
Doomamatrix User ID: 1642330 United States 09/24/2011 10:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | FALSE MESSIAHS and FALSE PROPHETS will arise and they will perform signs and wonders so great as to deceive, if that were possible , even the elect." "Behold, I have told it to you beforehand. So if they say to you, 'He is here in the desert', do not go out there; if they say, 'He is in the inner rooms, do NOT BELIEVE it.'" Matthew, 24;23-26 Read this and make your OWN conclusions on this thread. Please do not be mislead! Last Edited by Doomamatrix on 09/24/2011 10:03 PM Obamacare: Never has so much been taken away from so many for so few. |
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4Q529 User ID: 1928905 United States 09/24/2011 10:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "Behold, I have told it to you beforehand. So if they say to you, 'He is here in the desert', do not go out there; if they say, 'He is in the inner rooms, do NOT BELIEVE it.'" Quoting: Doomamatrix But, if 'they' say to you that Jesus taught the Doctrine of "resurrection" as a physical raising of a dead body from the grave, what should be your response? Or, on the other hand, if they tell you that Jesus taught the Doctrine of "resurrection" as a Doctrine of 'Rebirth', what should be your response? In other words, the issue here is what is the precise definition of a "prophet" vs. a "false prophet". 4Q529 |
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