Dear 803,

I have read some of your posts and it seems you may be misreading some of that which is written!

Are you the same 803 who said - (I have not taken Jesus out of spirituality, he is a prime example of who we can be once love is fully realised in a human body. He shows us the way to love in all its diversity.)

If so, how does this view differ from my statement - (Jesus Christ is the greatest example of spirituality in the history of humankind!)

I wish you well 803

BTW Jesus Christ also said the following to the woman at the well, "But the hour is coming and now is, when true worshipers will worship the Father in spirit and in truth; for the Father is seeking such to worship Him. God is Spirit, and those who worship Him must worship in spirit and truth."

He preceded this by telling her that the hour is coming when you will neither worship in the mountain nor in Jerusalem. This sounds very much to me like He was saying that the days of organized religion were numbered. But then this is just my opinion!

Once again 803, I wish you well
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No servant I did not make that comment, What does it mean to worship in spirit and in truth. first a person must know the truth in order to worship in truth.

I wish I could explain it to you so you would see the night and day difference between the spirit and the flesh.

To worship in the flesh is to be concerned with what mankind can accomplish before God in his own ability. This flesh performance can be demonstrated through religion, philosophy, or whatever else man endeavors to make himself look presentable before God. The flesh performance revolves and is based on the knowledge of good and evil and putting it into practice. In fact you can be the most righteous person in the world by your deeds, but if you are basing them on your acceptance to God then you are denying His Son´s atonement and saying that you can do it by yourself through worshipping on the proper mountain, or the proper religious actions.

To worship in spirit and truth is to discard everything that we can accomplish as presentable to God and place all our faith in Christ and what He has done to make us acceptable to God, through His sacrifice. His method does not require us to do it properly or be on the right mountain, His method is not based on our performance of good or evil. His method brings spiritual life and is the opposite of justifying ourselves before God in our performances. His method requires that we deny ourselves and all that we think is good or evil and rest in His faith that is given to those who believe.

Without faith in Christ, we are spiritually dead in trespasses and sin, and are still focused on our selves and our accomplishments, which produce the fruit of pride and self-serving self-righteousness.

So unless you are of faith in Christ, you are concerned with the proper mountain or remedy that will bring you closer to God.