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EPA to property owner: 'Your land is our land'

 
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EPA to property owner: 'Your land is our land'
"Just imagine. You want to build a home, so you buy a $23,000 piece of land in a residential subdivision in your hometown and get started. The government then tells you to stop, threatens you with $40 million in fines and is not kidding. "

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PLF fights the EPA to protect a couple's dream


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09/24/2011 01:01 PM
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Tell the EPA to get off of your property. If they come onto your property you can shoot them for trespassing. Whether or not you have a permit to build it is still your property and they are still trespassing.

Even better if they come onto your property armed.
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That's so messed up...
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Chris Griffin and Farrah Fawcett make a cute couple!
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This type of shit has to end. One way or another.
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their plan according to their nanny booted UN world order


not new at all, in fact quite old, ancient according to some historical scribblings





They want to hoard all resources from the common men, women, and children

They want control of all kids


all land


all food


all energy


all people


all thought-check my 'sig'


they have a plan, very similar to Jeffrey Dahmer's plan


take over the minds and behavior of all-so they are happy and content little farm animals...ready to be RFID tattooed



ready to be driven like a remote control serf



Imagine that-count me as a cynic when they assure the masses all is well


has not been for decades...as far as I can remember and that is considerable, if I wasn't a woman I would of been an elephant
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Vote Ron Paul. He'll get rid of the EPA...no joke!
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But if your business involves fracking the clean water act is waived.
we live in truly f'ed up times
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I especially like the hand that lifts up the dry dirt to show it is not a wetlands. Another black eye for the EPA.
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Those of you who think you own that land are sadly delusional. In all Human societies and Civilizations, it is always ultimately The State (or King) that owns all the land in that eState. Always, without any exception. This is because the combined military forces of The State that can number now in the tens of millions, can always come and take that land by force even if it requires killing off the squatters who claim they 'own' the land.

Any other understanding is delusion.

And when it comes to The State owning the land, each State much defend its own Land Claim against all would would counter claim and that defense is on the grounds of military battle. Such is human history, such is the human future.

Ownership of land? Its hard enough at times if enough are gathered against you to successfully even defend your "own" body.. without soliciting allies who themselves might for what ever reasons help defend you now but be against you later.
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But if your business involves fracking the clean water act is waived.
we live in truly f'ed up times
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not F'ed up times, but rather Fascist Times.
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EPA Wants to add 230,000 MORE Bureaucrats

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In a court filing last week, EPA quantified the vast new army of federal bureaucrats it will need to process millions of new permits under the Prevention of Significant Deterioration and Title V permitting process. A shocking 230,000 new EPA bureaucrats at a cost of $21 billion -- more than tripling the EPA's total budget.

[link to www.americansforprosperity.org]
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their plan according to their nanny booted UN world order


not new at all, in fact quite old, ancient according to some historical scribblings





They want to hoard all resources from the common men, women, and children

They want control of all kids


all land


all food


all energy


all people


all thought-check my 'sig'


they have a plan, very similar to Jeffrey Dahmer's plan


take over the minds and behavior of all-so they are happy and content little farm animals...ready to be RFID tattooed



ready to be driven like a remote control serf



Imagine that-count me as a cynic when they assure the masses all is well


has not been for decades...as far as I can remember and that is considerable, if I wasn't a woman I would of been an elephant
 Quoting: ShadowDancer

Well said... but it seems we never really do get down to the naming of name as to who this "They" really are.

This is the very thing the forces of Liberty were to guard against and fight against. And yet, each success leads only to a 'new elite'.. rinse and repeat.
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EPA Wants to add 230,000 MORE Bureaucrats

(snip)

In a court filing last week, EPA quantified the vast new army of federal bureaucrats it will need to process millions of new permits under the Prevention of Significant Deterioration and Title V permitting process. A shocking 230,000 new EPA bureaucrats at a cost of $21 billion -- more than tripling the EPA's total budget.

[link to www.americansforprosperity.org]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1388392


If they simply returned that $21 Billion from whom they took it from in the first place there would in reality be far less 'significan deterioration' going on. Its the constant siezing parts of the capital of all (rich and poor and middle class) that is causing and producing even more and more 'significant deterioration' of the local environs.

What needs to be governed and regulated are the very companies like the energy companies and chemical companies that are so profit-customer driven that they have no qualms at all about raping the environment upon which many of their own customers are trying to live in.
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I have the deed to my property but nowhere does it say owner; instead it says Tenant.
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Uh, even if you hold the title, if you fall behind on your rent

--oops, property taxes,

the gummint will take your land.





So, how does anyone own his land??
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09/24/2011 03:06 PM
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Its true! No Americans actually "own" land. You really need to investigate the illusion of ownership. The US Government is a company which put a lien on your land a hundred years ago, and has a similar lien on your productivity. That is how it pays off the Federal Reserve Bank and that is why you are all strawmen, who's names are actually companies owned by the parent company--the american gov't. YES-- YOU ARE OWNED, in addition to your land.

You all should really research this! The illusions that we are born with are not remotely close to the truth in terms of the legal relationships and contracts that are formed through things like SS# 's Birth Certificates and Marriage Certificates. That is why common law marriages happen-- so that the Marriage License and Certificates are avoided, as they literally give the ownership of your children to the government.



"Just imagine. You want to build a home, so you buy a $23,000 piece of land in a residential subdivision in your hometown and get started. The government then tells you to stop, threatens you with $40 million in fines and is not kidding. "

Full Article Here:

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You're a bad Man ...trying to save animals ... We have to test the animals, but because we can only test dead animals ...

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Amazing ....
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You don't own your car either-- you are using government property-- that is what the registration does for you. Your license to travel is your license to use the government property that you don't own but pay through the nose for. Hence it can be revoked. This is how they get around the "Right to Travel" in the bill of rights. Commercial purpose is the only purpose for which you require a license.

As far as owning land outright, lawfully, you need to go back and get the original title. Way back. It is called ALLODIAL TITLE.

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Research it! Most of what you were brought up to believe is false. A fabrication to support the state, the status quo, the government organizations and the people behind them that benefit from your ignorance.


Its true! No Americans actually "own" land. You really need to investigate the illusion of ownership. The US Government is a company which put a lien on your land a hundred years ago, and has a similar lien on your productivity. That is how it pays off the Federal Reserve Bank and that is why you are all strawmen, who's names are actually companies owned by the parent company--the american gov't. YES-- YOU ARE OWNED, in addition to your land.

You all should really research this! The illusions that we are born with are not remotely close to the truth in terms of the legal relationships and contracts that are formed through things like SS# 's Birth Certificates and Marriage Certificates. That is why common law marriages happen-- so that the Marriage License and Certificates are avoided, as they literally give the ownership of your children to the government.



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Simple

If you "own" land, and someone threatens to "take" it, then just dig up "your land" and take it somewhere else

"Rights" aren't rights if someone else can take them away
Put it in neutral!

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09/24/2011 03:37 PM
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I want to add, that it's GOD'S land. He created it for us to enjoy and pursue happiness.

NEVER did he intend for others to profit off of our homes via taxes.

THIEVES, all of them.
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Ron Paul is the only one who recognizes the evil of this government bootstomping crap. He has been preaching for decades to shut these agencies down!
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Eminent Domain. A very real problem and something I had to write a paper about in school. The Gov can just move in and take over your land if they want it bad enough.
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Their complaint is with the previous property owner, not the EPA. If the previous property owner didn't disclose that it was in a wetlands (which is probably why they sold it in the first place)then that's who they sue. Real estate law 101.
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Social engineering using persuasive psychology has worked for thousands of years. We all slay with words, those who have not had to go through the same law/permit/sacrifice route that 'we' have had to, etc.

We perpetuate and cascade the restrictive laws by simply feeling hard done by if others are seen to have an easier path to their dreams. We are the 'jealous neighbouring tribe'. So, all their psychology relies on fundamental human behavior functioning as usual.

Why do so many spiritual teachings tell us to love one another - I ponder at the wisdoms, through my window of disconnection to all and any groups. Well, one reason might be that we need to celebrate others' successes and embrace the achievements and creativity of our neighbours. In doing so, we open the doors for ourselves and further, we make pathways to dreams accelerate in their achieving.

I hope this couple get the rights back to build their home and I hope very much, that others find paths to their dreams become a much smoother one too.
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People arguing about who owns land is like fleas arguing about who owns the dog (aboriginal quote I think)
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Re: EPA to property owner: 'Your land is our land'
Their complaint is with the previous property owner, not the EPA. If the previous property owner didn't disclose that it was in a wetlands (which is probably why they sold it in the first place)then that's who they sue. Real estate law 101.
 Quoting: CityGirl


Not true if they were not aware of it. Do you think the developer knew as he was investing thousands putting in water and such when he successful built the whole neighborhood without all this crap?

How about this couple? What if before even starting to build their plans had changed and they had to sell. So then the next owners get the EPA bootstomping not them. But clearly this couple was clueless so how did deciding to sell magically make them aware of all the crap the EPA was going to pull? It wasn't just them, they had contractors involved and they all would have viewed the lot conditions yet none were aware it was wetlands?
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Vote Ron Paul. He'll get rid of the EPA...no joke!
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he said that he will get rid of the IRS too, if true he got mine..





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