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BREAKING!!!----Why is Sirius blocked from Google Sky? Because----OUR SUN IS IN A BINARY WITH SIRIUS!

 
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Because the light feed is too great for that pic. Look at the other bright stars, such as Pollux in Gemini, and stars around Canis Major. All have a similar blanked-out appearance. So are ALL of these stars coming to destroy earth? All of them? just because Google shows them as blocked out?
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No one said anything about destruction.
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Because the light feed is too great for that pic. Look at the other bright stars, such as Pollux in Gemini, and stars around Canis Major. All have a similar blanked-out appearance. So are ALL of these stars coming to destroy earth? All of them? just because Google shows them as blocked out?
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this could well be used as an alibi.. to trigger thoughts and answers like yours.
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bump

Check out Sirius tonight.
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Once again, our solar system does not orbit Sirius--I agree.
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Great, then you agree with me that our sun is not in a binary with Sirius...
We don't know enough about binary systems to make so many assumptions about the "facts."
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It's not assuming the facts, it's basic observational astronomy.
This is a thread for brainstorming, it's not meant to be restricted by simple "debunking"--the dialogue is not controlled in that fashion.
 Quoting: spinning

Debunking, to take the bunk out of, is not restrictive, it is all about liberating and exposing the truth.
You're still welcome here, but as I said before, you will not get any DIALOGUE from me in this regard.
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You've given me plenty of dialog, including an admission that we're not in a binary with Sirius.
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If an admission is what you wanted, then you've gotten it. Our solar system is not orbiting Sirius. Not once in this thread have I made that claim.

I refuse you dialogue, which is why you keep coming back.

All the same...

see you around,


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you OP are my hero, the nutmegmut has a lot to learn, and your not feeding the dog is something I and a lot of us can learn from as well.

so we're not orbiting, but we are still binaries, is this correct? we are orbiting or spiraling each other?
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That's a contradiction in terms. If we're not orbiting each other, we're not "in a binary" with each other.

I have to say, it's rather funny to watch the strength of the Dunning-Kruger effect in this thread.

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I love how astromut is so fast to claim 'fact';
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Facts are stubborn things. Wanting us to be in a binary with Sirius does not change the fact that we are traveling far too fast relative to each other for us to be orbiting each other. Escape velocity, look it up. It would be just as silly to claim that the mars science laboratory is still orbiting earth. It too reached and exceeded escape velocity.
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I'm sorry but my favorite part was when you called Astromut a shill!
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Yay for defamatory ad hominem!
I called his bluff one time and all he could show for it was calculating the orbit of a freaking satelitte.
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You asked me to prove that I could independently calculate the orbit of an object, so I showed you that I could. I don't see you calculating the orbit of any "freaking satellite," or anything else for that matter. And incidentally, I am pretty good at independently determining orbits...


By the way, you previously claimed I proved you wrong and proved that I do know what I'm talking about...
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Sirius being 'blocked' has been well debunked.

The rest of the stuff you say, I dunno. I do know that it is hard to take anyone 'sirius' if they parrot the 'blocked' crap.
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Right, by Astromutt.

His lame argument doesn't mean anything, in case you didn't know.
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1. Your Ad Hominem attack does nothing to help your tenuous situation.

2. It is not 'his' argument. They are merely facts.

Now I understand as well as anyone, facts can conflict with desires and wishes.

It is apparent that you seem emotionally inVested in a certain view point. That is ok. It is also ok for me to point this out to you.
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no, they are facts based on theories, big difference.

we know nothing about the universe, so 99% of what I am given as facts are indeed just theories.
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you are right AC, but Astromut treats all that modern theoretical shit as HARD FACTS, for better or for worse, for money or for his ego, or for both.
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Right, by Astromutt.

His lame argument doesn't mean anything, in case you didn't know.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1450913


1. Your Ad Hominem attack does nothing to help your tenuous situation.

2. It is not 'his' argument. They are merely facts.

Now I understand as well as anyone, facts can conflict with desires and wishes.

It is apparent that you seem emotionally inVested in a certain view point. That is ok. It is also ok for me to point this out to you.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1553268


no, they are facts based on theories, big difference.

we know nothing about the universe, so 99% of what I am given as facts are indeed just theories.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5958997


you are right AC, but Astromut treats all that modern theoretical shit as HARD FACTS, for better or for worse, for money or for his ego, or for both.
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This is really basic stuff guys. Orbital mechanics works, deal with it. The Sirius system has a known mass thanks to observing the orbit of Sirius B relative to Sirius A. The relative motions of our two solar systems are also known, and that motion is far higher than escape velocity, even when just looking at linear motion. This isn't theoretical shit about dark matter, this is astronomy 101. Ego and money have nothing to do with it.
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excellent find op . your on to something here. i do really appreciate your enthusiasm . however here on glp there are more people who only believe dumb YouTube videos. most of them don't even know how many planets exists in otr solar system. my best bet would be that you post your queries on to a astronomical forum. you can have a good debate there post the answers here. as people here rely mostly rely on astromut and consider him Jesus.

thanks. hf
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what did you say?...

Astomut is a laughing stock stock here; sort of a science clown. yeh, he knows some conventional scientific priesthood shit and can throw it in your eyes as magic sand, made of valid arguments of observable astronomy and shilly ruse.

But the green thing is totally out of place!.. and shilly too.

What does he have to do with the human called now Jesus?!

He has nothing to do with it, but Jesus just might...
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I'm sorry I wasn't clear. In the first post, it was meant to be "think" of our son as an atom.
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That's a good name for a kid...
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Astromut, by the way, pardon the lack of articles in my grammar, and as well accept my gratitude for you being here, on this thread. For i was quick to dismiss the op's suggestion and was about to give up on his message,.. but here you... Thanks, Astromut!
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Astromut, by the way, pardon the lack of articles in my grammar, and as well accept my gratitude for you being here, on this thread. For i was quick to dismiss the op's suggestion and was about to give up on his message,.. but here you... Thanks, Astromut!
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My being here is not at all a rational reason to suddenly believe the OP, but I can't force you to be anything but completely irrational if that's what you want to be! Enjoy your fantasy!
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Keep fighting the good fight Astro.....hf
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LOOK at the latitudinal lines on the sun where these sunspots are appearing.

[link to stereo-ssc.nascom.nasa.gov]



They do line up on the 19th which matches Hoagland "hyperdimensional" physics theory.
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bump

Check out Sirius tonight.
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Good point, get your eye or telescope and take a look. I don't think google sky is blocking those methods. lol
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Astromut, by the way, pardon the lack of articles in my grammar, and as well accept my gratitude for you being here, on this thread. For i was quick to dismiss the op's suggestion and was about to give up on his message,.. but here you... Thanks, Astromut!
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My being here is not at all a rational reason to suddenly believe the OP, but I can't force you to be anything but completely irrational if that's what you want to be! Enjoy your fantasy!
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here you are full of assumptions!..

they, assumptions, are also good in case of lack of a better argument, but seldom true.
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Astromut, by the way, pardon the lack of articles in my grammar, and as well accept my gratitude for you being here, on this thread. For i was quick to dismiss the op's suggestion and was about to give up on his message,.. but here you... Thanks, Astromut!
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My being here is not at all a rational reason to suddenly believe the OP, but I can't force you to be anything but completely irrational if that's what you want to be! Enjoy your fantasy!
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here you are full of assumptions!..

they, assumptions, are also good in case of lack of a better argument, but seldom true.
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No assumptions, but that's how I read your statement above. If you're not saying that I caused you to go from dismissing the OP to accepting the OP by my presence, then I apologize, but you have to understand that language is a barrier here. I don't mean that as an attack or insult.
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Actually, Assmunch, Astromut is highly respected on these boards.

People like who, people who are confused by little things like facts.... Are the laughing stock of GLP.

Sorry....

excellent find op . your on to something here. i do really appreciate your enthusiasm . however here on glp there are more people who only believe dumb YouTube videos. most of them don't even know how many planets exists in otr solar system. my best bet would be that you post your queries on to a astronomical forum. you can have a good debate there post the answers here. as people here rely mostly rely on astromut and consider him Jesus.

thanks. hf
 Quoting: yamaniac


what did you say?...

Astomut is a laughing stock stock here; sort of a science clown. yeh, he knows some conventional scientific priesthood shit and can throw it in your eyes as magic sand, made of valid arguments of observable astronomy and shilly ruse.

But the green thing is totally out of place!.. and shilly too.

What does he have to do with the human called now Jesus?!

He has nothing to do with it, but Jesus just might...
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Robot Astronomy Talk Show: Destroyer of Worlds
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1. Your Ad Hominem attack does nothing to help your tenuous situation.

2. It is not 'his' argument. They are merely facts.

Now I understand as well as anyone, facts can conflict with desires and wishes.

It is apparent that you seem emotionally inVested in a certain view point. That is ok. It is also ok for me to point this out to you.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1553268


no, they are facts based on theories, big difference.

we know nothing about the universe, so 99% of what I am given as facts are indeed just theories.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5958997


you are right AC, but Astromut treats all that modern theoretical shit as HARD FACTS, for better or for worse, for money or for his ego, or for both.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 7457659


This is really basic stuff guys. Orbital mechanics works, deal with it. The Sirius system has a known mass thanks to observing the orbit of Sirius B relative to Sirius A. The relative motions of our two solar systems are also known, and that motion is far higher than escape velocity, even when just looking at linear motion. This isn't theoretical shit about dark matter, this is astronomy 101. Ego and money have nothing to do with it.
 Quoting: Astromut



Where was Astronomy 101 when the Dogon figured out the orbital paths of Sirius A and B?

The Dogon, living in mud huts--no telescopes, no calculators, no Astromutts. Western "astronomy" said they had to be wrong.

We don't know enough about binary star systems to claim all the "facts" as truths. You shouldn't have issue with people questioning your "facts". If you were a real scientist, you'd keep an open mind full of questions, even regarding your own theories. So why so busy, busy, busy attacking the theories of others?

The Dogon will prove you wrong once again--but only when you catch up to them (if ever)!

With that said, thanks for the bumps!
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For all or any of you interested in this discussion, I also invite you to my other thread.

Thread: BREAKING!!!!!!!!-----The Sirius Star system, Ancient Egypt, the Dogon , and Quantum Physics….

There is a lot more information there with details about how and why these ancient people knew what was going on with Sirius B and A.

Enjoy!
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"Sirius" by the Allen Parsons Project has been used as the intro for Chicago Bulls home games for many seasons. Michael Jordans # was 23
and his father was killed on July 23 , 1993.




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The number 23.... The tropic of Cancer and the tropic of Capricorn lie 23 degrees ABOVE and 23 degrees BELOW the equator. Those are the degrees that our sun appears to rise in during the summer and winter solstice. Also, if you put a / between the 2 numbers you get 2/3. Two thirds of a 1000 is 666. Oh and the Bulls.... Taurus all the way.
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and michael jordan is taurus rising... got that from a astrology site..
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Where was Astronomy 101 when the Dogon figured out the orbital paths of Sirius A and B?
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They didn't:
[link to michaelsheiser.com]
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"That Sirius is a double star is unknown; astronomy is of very little importance in reli- gion. Dogon society has no initiatory secrets beyond the complete mastery of publicly known texts."
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Where was Astronomy 101 when the Dogon figured out the orbital paths of Sirius A and B?
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They didn't:
[link to michaelsheiser.com]
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Yes, they did.

Why does this bother you?

They knew the presence of Sirius B LONG before Western astronomy could verify.

And they know more than that too, they have a vast knowledge of spin symmetry of particles, and have a complete periodic table of elements.

What will you resort to now? More bad karma for me?
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"That Sirius is a double star is unknown; astronomy is of very little importance in reli- gion. Dogon society has no initiatory secrets beyond the complete mastery of publicly known texts."
[link to www.michaelsheiser.com]
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Copying and pasting the same stuff from one thread to another.

How original.
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Where was Astronomy 101 when the Dogon figured out the orbital paths of Sirius A and B?
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They didn't:
[link to michaelsheiser.com]
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Yes, they did.

Why does this bother you?

They knew the presence of Sirius B LONG before Western astronomy could verify.

And they know more than that too, they have a vast knowledge of spin symmetry of particles, and have a complete periodic table of elements.

What will you resort to now? More bad karma for me?
 Quoting: SecondPrecession


Griaule made it all up.

No other anthropologists have even been able to corroborate any of the Dogon Sirius knowledge.
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Where was Astronomy 101 when the Dogon figured out the orbital paths of Sirius A and B?
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They didn't:
[link to michaelsheiser.com]
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Yes, they did.

Why does this bother you?

They knew the presence of Sirius B LONG before Western astronomy could verify.

And they know more than that too, they have a vast knowledge of spin symmetry of particles, and have a complete periodic table of elements.

What will you resort to now? More bad karma for me?
 Quoting: SecondPrecession


Griaule made it all up.

No other anthropologists have even been able to corroborate any of the Dogon Sirius knowledge.
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lol

What a pathetic attempt to discredit these scientists and these people.

Even the History Channel has a special about the Dogon Sirius knowledge.

And the Dogon knowledge of spin symmetry pointed out by other scientists since then--are you gonna claim that is made up as well?

Pathetic!
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Yes, they did.

Why does this bother you?

They knew the presence of Sirius B LONG before Western astronomy could verify.

And they know more than that too, they have a vast knowledge of spin symmetry of particles, and have a complete periodic table of elements.

What will you resort to now? More bad karma for me?
 Quoting: SecondPrecession


Griaule made it all up.

No other anthropologists have even been able to corroborate any of the Dogon Sirius knowledge.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 7511748


lol

What a pathetic attempt to discredit these scientists and these people.

Even the History Channel has a special about the Dogon Sirius knowledge.

And the Dogon knowledge of spin symmetry pointed out by other scientists since then--are you gonna claim that is made up as well?

Pathetic!
 Quoting: SecondPrecession


I suppose it is far beneath you to actually do research in ACCREDITED anthropologist studies to come to your own conclusion rather than parrot a bunch of "top scientists" and conspiracy websites.

I did many hours of searching on this one and used to believe it to be true as well but have since reversed my opinion.

I would enjoy having you put up some links regarding your belief that the Dogon had knowledge of spin symmetry.
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Yes, they did.

Why does this bother you?

They knew the presence of Sirius B LONG before Western astronomy could verify.

And they know more than that too, they have a vast knowledge of spin symmetry of particles, and have a complete periodic table of elements.

What will you resort to now? More bad karma for me?
 Quoting: SecondPrecession


Griaule made it all up.

No other anthropologists have even been able to corroborate any of the Dogon Sirius knowledge.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 7511748


lol

What a pathetic attempt to discredit these scientists and these people.

Even the History Channel has a special about the Dogon Sirius knowledge.

And the Dogon knowledge of spin symmetry pointed out by other scientists since then--are you gonna claim that is made up as well?

Pathetic!
 Quoting: SecondPrecession


I suppose it is far beneath you to actually do research in ACCREDITED anthropologist studies to come to your own conclusion rather than parrot a bunch of "top scientists" and conspiracy websites.

I did many hours of searching on this one and used to believe it to be true as well but have since reversed my opinion.

I would enjoy having you put up some links regarding your belief that the Dogon had knowledge of spin symmetry.
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What ACCREDITED anthropologist studies on the Dogon do you recommend?

It's far too easy to discredit a scientist once they've gone to the grave. Even our imperfect process of scientific discovery takes place within the political arena.

If you reversed your opinion, then go ahead and tell us why. Provide links if you'd like.

Here is a bit on spin symmetry and the Dogon..






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