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WTF is this rising in Hawaii its huge & bright!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 
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Mars is my guess..

[link to www.solarsystemscope.com]

go to the night side of earth, then look at how Mars would have risen a couple of hours before the sun, and remember these cameras are VERY sensitive to light, so Mars would appear to be huge, but I'm no expert.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1909879


There is no planet in our Solar system that could ever possibly be as big & bright as that cmon thats almost another Sun!!!!!!
 Quoting: Lofty






You are incorrect!!!

Notice how little of the Earth background is lit up. Also notice this object exudes refracted light coma...

NOTICE prior to the sun coming up the whole screne is white washed and then adjusts and shows a much smaller body for the Sun but very bright.

As another poster said "these cameras are very light sensitive".

End of Doom...
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Do like I said to setup Stellarium. It was the Moon.

[link to i439.photobucket.com]
 Quoting: BoxerLvr


That thing looks round and full. The moon is at waning crescent right now.
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I just showed you it was the Moon rising at 3:30am. [link to i439.photobucket.com] If it's not the Moon, where is the Moon? LOL. Because that is exactly where the Moon should be at that time.

The Moon always looks like that on the CFHT Cloudcam. It is VERY sensitive. Again:

"If you see something unusual, keep in mind that the camera changes sensitivity dramatically throughout the night to compensate for changes in ambient light so the moon and planets can appear much brighter than we are used to seeing them."

"The camera starts taking images just before sunset and stops just after sunrise. During that time you usually see the moon rise or set as well. At this sensitivity the moonrise can be very bright and look a lot like a sunrise but if you see stars you can know it is still night-time." [link to www.cfht.hawaii.edu]
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I'm from your future and I saw the moon last night and I assume its the same moon as yours and it was no where near full 3/4 blocked...
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You were on the other thread that had this beautiful video in it and were bitching then. You do know that this is a conspiracy forum, right? I am sure since you are so unhappy with this video that you can find something else to do with your time on a Saturday afternoon. eh?
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they are paid Shills, that is their job they make money debunking stuff, that is why they remain AC's
 Quoting: MONSTER


No. It just means not EVERYTHING is a conspiracy and not EVERYBODY wants to register here

It's the Moon ffs

Check Stellarium yourself. Enter location a Hawaii. Set time and date, look East...voila

putin
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I can understand your position. There is, however, no need for them to be so rude and mean. They personally attack people which is kind of overkill, and lends itself to the possibility that they have an ulterior motive, hence Shill.
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agreed.you can dissagree whithout without the drama.i swear sometimes it seems like its just plain old fear that brings it out
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Re: WTF is this rising in Hawaii its huge & bright!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The moon doesn't rise just before the sun. Venus does. That's why it is called 'the morning star'.

Nice vid, but not a big deal.
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It's the moon

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I've been reading all of these Elenin, Niribru, solar flare threads and have to say it seems like the best explanation is ...

we dont have a clue what the heck is going on or what it is. I guess we speculate and wait. I don't trust NASA, but who is a credible novice who's opinion can be trusted?
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Regardless what it is, that is a most beautiful sky. I'd give anything to see that many stars and that much sky at night.
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The moon doesn't rise just before the sun. Venus does. That's why it is called 'the morning star'.

Nice vid, but not a big deal.
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this is not VENUS. VENUS will shortly be in the EVENING STAR.
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You have to remember that cam is above the clouds so if you use Stellarium then you have to offset the "distance above sea level" which is what I did & for that time 03:30 it put Betelgeuse in that location so I wondered hmmm is it Betelgeuse exploding or something as that is expected anytime now & with the NASA stories about space junk & satelites crashing then could this be the explosion on the cam?
Anyway the elevation of the cam is very high so thats my point here!
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go back 4-5 days and you will see their is ni large object before the sun so can't be the moon
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It's the moon

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No we have a quarter moon, not a full moon right.
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Moon Rise in Hawaii
Sep 24, 2011 3:30 AM

[link to www.timeanddate.com]

Sun Rise in Hawaii.
Sep 24, 2011 6:21 AM

[link to www.timeanddate.com]

More than likely the moon.
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Re: WTF is this rising in Hawaii its huge & bright!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Check the latest Hawaii cloud cam & watch at 03:30 WTF is this rising?

I checked stellarium so it is not the Moon or Jupiter & the Sun rises about 4 hours later!!

The closest star I can think is Betelgeuse but WTF its too big & bright to be Betelgeuse so WTF is it?

I took a snapshot here [link to s1204.photobucket.com]

Check the cam stream here [link to www.cfht.hawaii.edu]
 Quoting: Lofty


From that site CFHT site, go to about this camera. [link to www.cfht.hawaii.edu]

"If you see something unusual, keep in mind that the camera changes sensitivity dramatically throughout the night to compensate for changes in ambient light so the moon and planets can appear much brighter than we are used to seeing them. Click here for a calculator of the rise and set times of bright things in the sky. Enter Hilo as the location and the time in Hawaii which is printed on each image."

"click here" link --> [link to aa.usno.navy.mil]

fill in September 24. 2011
Object of interest: Moon
State: Hawaii
Town: Hilo
Compute Data

Here is your result: 2011 Sep 24 (Sat) 03:20

Exactly what we see in the video.
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It's not the moon.

There can't be almost no moon in the whole world right now, and a full moon in Hawaii.

It would not be Sirius would it?
[link to i1126.photobucket.com]

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Do like I said to setup Stellarium. It was the Moon.

[link to i439.photobucket.com]
 Quoting: BoxerLvr


That thing looks round and full. The moon is at waning crescent right now.
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I just showed you it was the Moon rising at 3:30am. [link to i439.photobucket.com] If it's not the Moon, where is the Moon? LOL. Because that is exactly where the Moon should be at that time.

The Moon always looks like that on the CFHT Cloudcam. It is VERY sensitive. Again:

"If you see something unusual, keep in mind that the camera changes sensitivity dramatically throughout the night to compensate for changes in ambient light so the moon and planets can appear much brighter than we are used to seeing them."

"The camera starts taking images just before sunset and stops just after sunrise. During that time you usually see the moon rise or set as well. At this sensitivity the moonrise can be very bright and look a lot like a sunrise but if you see stars you can know it is still night-time." [link to www.cfht.hawaii.edu]
 Quoting: BoxerLvr


I'm from your future and I saw the moon last night and I assume its the same moon as yours and it was no where near full 3/4 blocked...
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drama
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butt <<< full moon.
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Well, it's definitely a Moon

Just fed up that shit like this gets pinned and hyped when it is easily verifiable in less than one minute via Stellarium
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1559078


Really?????????? if its a moon, what moon does it belong to, assuming this image and film are dated TODAY.
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It's the moon

bsflag
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No we have a quarter moon, not a full moon right.
 Quoting: Nobody in Particular


No we do not have a quarter moon. It's at waning crescent.

[link to www.moonconnection.com]
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I used Stellarium if you read in my initial post but explain how a 9% Moon becomes full, round, bright with a huge glare?
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Is it possible to find archive on a date that shows quarter moons??



Z
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Probably if you link up to the date in Hawaii to the last time we had a 9% moon.... it needs to be the exact moon phase so maybe that will prove the point!
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It's not the moon.

It would not be Sirius would it?
[link to i1126.photobucket.com]
 Quoting: ehecatl


Seems kinda big for Sirius,...don't you think?

So far I got Moon, Sirius and Venus as usual suspects.

Hm,....



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So if that is the moon does it rise 3 hours before the sun in Hawaii?
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I usually see the moon in the center of the sky when I walk outside before going to bed and that 12 or 1am, I will go out tonight and I have a moon locater on my iphone,
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It's the moon

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No we have a quarter moon, not a full moon right.
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your eyes can adjust, that camera lens CAN'T! it is very sensitive, so even the light from a sliver of the moon showing will overwhelm it.
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Moon Rise in Hawaii
Sep 24, 2011 3:30 AM

[link to www.timeanddate.com]

Sun Rise in Hawaii.
Sep 24, 2011 6:21 AM

[link to www.timeanddate.com]

More than likely the moon.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1552756



Thank you. That agrees with what I see in Stellarium. [link to i439.photobucket.com]

It's the MOON.
It is precisely because it is fashionable for Americans to know no science, even though they may be well educated otherwise, that they so easily fall prey to nonsense. They thus become part of the armies of the night, the purveyors of nitwittery, the retailers of intellectual junk food, the feeders on mental cardboard, for their ignorance keeps them from distinguishing nectar from sewage. — Isaac Asimov
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It's the moon,find my other post up there ^ and check the time stamp on the video and match to my links of moon and sun rises.
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It's not the moon.

There can't be almost no moon in the whole world right now, and a full moon in Hawaii.

It would not be Sirius would it?
[link to i1126.photobucket.com]
 Quoting: ehecatl


I thought Sirius was in the North at that time? I might be wrong but then its a possibility..
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Probably if you link up to the date in Hawaii to the last time we had a 9% moon.... it needs to be the exact moon phase so maybe that will prove the point!
 Quoting: Lofty


Maybe someone will get to it if we are lucky. I am too stoned to deal with that stuff now.

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That thing looks round and full. The moon is at waning crescent right now.
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I just showed you it was the Moon rising at 3:30am. [link to i439.photobucket.com] If it's not the Moon, where is the Moon? LOL. Because that is exactly where the Moon should be at that time.

The Moon always looks like that on the CFHT Cloudcam. It is VERY sensitive. Again:

"If you see something unusual, keep in mind that the camera changes sensitivity dramatically throughout the night to compensate for changes in ambient light so the moon and planets can appear much brighter than we are used to seeing them."

"The camera starts taking images just before sunset and stops just after sunrise. During that time you usually see the moon rise or set as well. At this sensitivity the moonrise can be very bright and look a lot like a sunrise but if you see stars you can know it is still night-time." [link to www.cfht.hawaii.edu]
 Quoting: BoxerLvr


I'm from your future and I saw the moon last night and I assume its the same moon as yours and it was no where near full 3/4 blocked...
 Quoting: egg



[link to www.calculatorcat.com]
 Quoting: BoxerLvr


Yep it looked like that!!!
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Re: WTF is this rising in Hawaii its huge & bright!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The moon doesn't rise just before the sun. Venus does. That's why it is called 'the morning star'.

Nice vid, but not a big deal.
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this is not VENUS. VENUS will shortly be in the EVENING STAR.
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Well then, I'm interested to hear what AH has to say about it.
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Moon Rise in Hawaii
Sep 24, 2011 3:30 AM

[link to www.timeanddate.com]

Sun Rise in Hawaii.
Sep 24, 2011 6:21 AM

[link to www.timeanddate.com]

More than likely the moon.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1552756



Thank you. That agrees with what I see in Stellarium. [link to i439.photobucket.com]

It's the MOON.
 Quoting: BoxerLvr


It sure looks right I agree so you still have to agree its freaky how it becomes a full moon with all that glare?
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Moon Rise in Hawaii
Sep 24, 2011 3:30 AM

[link to www.timeanddate.com]

Sun Rise in Hawaii.
Sep 24, 2011 6:21 AM

[link to www.timeanddate.com]

More than likely the moon.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1552756



Thank you. That agrees with what I see in Stellarium. [link to i439.photobucket.com]

It's the MOON.
 Quoting: BoxerLvr


Why are people saying it's the moon. That object does not look like a waning crescent moon.
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