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So-called 911 truth myth #1, Towers fell at free fall speed.

 
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I love Wood's analogy of clapping your hands as fast as you can in 8 seconds....could never do it 100 times...how many stories were those towers?...this was faster than free fall...

AND...this was definately a new form (or puplicly unknown)example of controlled energy manipulation.

Naw,,,our industrial complex couldn't have developed this technology since the early 50's????
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SOME people say "at free fall speed" but the closer true statement is "NEARLY at free fall speed"

The reason it is important is that a pancake style collapse will come NO WHERE NEAR free fall speed.

The only way to fall at NEARLY perfect FFS is to have the resistance below the falling object removed. In this case 2 roughly 110 story buildings + a 47 story building.
And whereas the 2 x 110 story buildings appear to be mortally wounded even though far from it...there is NO legitimate logical explanation for why the 47 story building fell at ALL, let alone at NEARLY FFS.


So Dr. Gregory House....you can stand on the technicality of many people getting lazy and dropping the adjective NEARLY, but that does not change the basic underlying law of physics facts that 'so called truthers' as you label them are pointing to.

FFS has just become the sound byte to try and expand peoples minds, and as with all sound bytes it contains the essential essence of the truth, but is not in and of itself all descriptive of that truth.

Better luck stirring the shit pot next time.
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sigh. yes, you! the benevolent protector of all GLP. if you can't understand why people can't stand you then perhaps this is your lot in life. enjoy it. if you really want to help out GLP, cut out the fucking trolling. there are enough AC's to do that already.
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How is presenting something easily observable to the human eye and reasoning process trolling?
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jesus youre thick aren't you? just because you BELIEVE you know what you are seeing, doesn't mean a goddamned thing. you focus on one tiny detail and the semantics of what "free fall" means and you think your fucking einstein. when you compile all the other evidence it really doesn't matter if "most truthers" (whatever the fuck that means, operationalize your variables) say anything about free fall or not. why would you even waste your time on people who may not even know what it means? with all the other evidence, what is the truth in the end? that is the point. not your petulant little rant about semantics with proles. asshole.
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I will keep syaing it alomost fell at nearly FREE FALL at nearly 10.2m/s and free fall is 9.8
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Wow!

12 negative Karma for pointing out an obvious error in the so-called truth MANTRA.

You are such fine people to do such a thing.

I'm glad I don't have to put up with people like you in REAL life.
"Everybody lies."
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hey OP youve got 52 1 stars! keep up the great detective work :)

laugh
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Why don't you people listen to the experts they show on the news. The buildings were built like a doughnut, they were hollow in the middle and didn't have a rebar reinforced cement core. The real conspiracy is how they stood for so many years.
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Unbeknownst to the Americans, however, was that Bout (who the CIA still believed was their asset) the week before the 9/11 attacks was tasked by his CIA handler Plame to deliver to Houston, Texas approximately 15 tonnes of Russian military PVV-5A Plastic Explosive plastic explosive (one of the most powerful in the world) through his, Bout’s Texas based air company IRBIS and to be signed for by Marvin Bush, President George Bush’s younger brother, and Wirt Walker III, George Bush’s cousin.

Important to note about Marvin Bush and Wirt Walker III is that at the time of the 9/11 attacks they were both directors of the American security company named Stratesec (formally known as Securacom) which was given a $8.3 million contract to help provide security at the World Trade Center and which the weekend prior to the attacks completely closed this massive skyscraper complex for 36 hours to “upgrade” its security system.

Now Bout in being curious, to say the least, as to why the Bush Family needed so much Russian explosives for their “upgrade” of the World Trade Center complex was “invited” by Marvin Bush to come to New York City to watch “the big show”, an offer Bout did not refuse. And so the night prior to 9/11 Bout traveled to New York City where he was met by Bush “operatives” working for the Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA), who “coincidentally” had scheduled an emergency exercise for the morning of September 11, 2001 that all too soon became real.


15 tonnes of russian high explosives explains why their was nothing left afterwards.
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If you watch WTC collapse videos you will see debri hitting the ground from where the collapse started LONG before that area of the building hits the ground.

At least 3 seconds before.

Yet so-called truthers repeat time and time again that the towers fell at free fall speed.

So you see debri blossoming out and falling at free fall speed yet the towers collapse is just a bit slower.

ANYONE with a functioning brain and eyes can see the statement that they fell at free fall speed is wrong.

Yet so-called truthers repeat it over and over and over again.

Kind of muddies the veracity of their other claims.

If you want to reply to this post STAY on TOPIC.

Meaning free fall speed.

Do NOT use the obfuscate gambit or I will just remove your post.
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WTF, do you realize that it CANNOT fall in with free-fall speed because there is still resistance left from the building, even though it is destructed at the same time?

It is pretty close to free-fall speed though, isn't it?
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ive watched all the tapes and ive studied the evidence for a year or so.....truth is our government lied about most of it..there was 9 trillion dollars in that building..where is it?rumsfeld admitted it was misplaced on 9/10...every event has a purpose..the purpose was to devert the attention of the american people so our elite cud steal, kill and gain control of the americans rights..plain and simple..we r heading to marshall law and it wont be pretty ..so whether it fell at break neck speed or not..one thing remaines... it changed america forever..we have chosen sides and when the revolution comes..what side will u be on?the tru patriots side or the side of the government that has once again failed u?
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As an avid follower of 9-11 truth, as I know you are G-House, I know you know that the actual speed was so considerably close to freefall speed that it makes little difference.

"Freefall speed" is a safe generalisation, an approximation that is commonly accepted as self evident.

Do you go around breaking up groups of people talking about the blue sky because they fail to acknowldge clouds, rainbows, sunrise, sunset or night time?

Or parents who complain their children run around at a hundred miles an hour, telling them how unlikely their statement must be?

How about folks that say they're going to put in 110% because by definition it is impossible to put in more that 100% effort.

Or do you only troll the people agitating to try and secure your freedom from tyrany ?

No it wasn't freefall speed, but it was nothing like the speed of 1 floor crashing into another below it times the number of floors that needed to be compromised 1 by 1 in that method.
Has anyone else noticed this elephant in the lounge room ?

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Wow!

12 negative Karma for pointing out an obvious error in the so-called truth MANTRA.

You are such fine people to do such a thing.

I'm glad I don't have to put up with people like you in REAL life.
 Quoting: G. House


idiot
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Re: So-called 911 truth myth #1, Towers fell at free fall speed.
SOME people say "at free fall speed" but the closer true statement is "NEARLY at free fall speed"

The reason it is important is that a pancake style collapse will come NO WHERE NEAR free fall speed.

The only way to fall at NEARLY perfect FFS is to have the resistance below the falling object removed. In this case 2 roughly 110 story buildings + a 47 story building.
And whereas the 2 x 110 story buildings appear to be mortally wounded even though far from it...there is NO legitimate logical explanation for why the 47 story building fell at ALL, let alone at NEARLY FFS.


So Dr. Gregory House....you can stand on the technicality of many people getting lazy and dropping the adjective NEARLY, but that does not change the basic underlying law of physics facts that 'so called truthers' as you label them are pointing to.

FFS has just become the sound byte to try and expand peoples minds, and as with all sound bytes it contains the essential essence of the truth, but is not in and of itself all descriptive of that truth.

Better luck stirring the shit pot next time.
 Quoting: r3VOLutionary


answer this, OP you arrogant asshole. and not with some petty semantics.
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sigh. yes, you! the benevolent protector of all GLP. if you can't understand why people can't stand you then perhaps this is your lot in life. enjoy it. if you really want to help out GLP, cut out the fucking trolling. there are enough AC's to do that already.
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How is presenting something easily observable to the human eye and reasoning process trolling?
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jesus youre thick aren't you? just because you BELIEVE you know what you are seeing, doesn't mean a goddamned thing. you focus on one tiny detail and the semantics of what "free fall" means and you think your fucking einstein. when you compile all the other evidence it really doesn't matter if "most truthers" (whatever the fuck that means, operationalize your variables) say anything about free fall or not. why would you even waste your time on people who may not even know what it means? with all the other evidence, what is the truth in the end? that is the point. not your petulant little rant about semantics with proles. asshole.
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OK,

I don't get it then.

So-called truthers make a very large point about it being free fall speed.

In FACT it was not.

Now YOU'RE saying that wasn't important?

And let's get one thing straight.

In the past I've debunked most of the other points made by so-called truthers.

I was just trying to keep it simple today.

I'm ALWAYS amazed at the amount of hate this generates among so-called truthers.

Really tends to make me think a few of you are a bit unbalanced.
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sigh. yes, you! the benevolent protector of all GLP. if you can't understand why people can't stand you then perhaps this is your lot in life. enjoy it. if you really want to help out GLP, cut out the fucking trolling. there are enough AC's to do that already.
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How is presenting something easily observable to the human eye and reasoning process trolling?
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jesus youre thick aren't you? just because you BELIEVE you know what you are seeing, doesn't mean a goddamned thing. you focus on one tiny detail and the semantics of what "free fall" means and you think your fucking einstein. when you compile all the other evidence it really doesn't matter if "most truthers" (whatever the fuck that means, operationalize your variables) say anything about free fall or not. why would you even waste your time on people who may not even know what it means? with all the other evidence, what is the truth in the end? that is the point. not your petulant little rant about semantics with proles. asshole.
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answer this too, asshole.
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Why'd they pull tower 7 op?
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I will keep syaing it alomost fell at nearly FREE FALL at nearly 10.2m/s and free fall is 9.8
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^ This. OP, think about what you are saying here, it's pretty stupid.

Without a controlled demolition the building wouldn't have come down at nearly free-fall speed into its own footprint.

What you are doing here is typical for a shill debunker. Use a quote which is not 100% (but 99%) correct to discredit the whole argument and theory. FAIL.
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You mean Demolition of WTC7 not collapse.

Here listen to this EXPERT.
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Sorry, but in the real world, you actually got to back up your claims, and saying "by watching all videos" is not in any way scientific enough to be believable. Look on page one, there is a video that explains how to use a simple software to analyze the videos, do some homework, because you are wrong, and NIST as well as everyone else happens to be right.


What you are saying is, instead of believing NIST, or the thousands of architects and engineers, that it is an undisputed fact that WTC7 collapsed at free fall speed, we should listen to your theory that is backed by your personal opinion only?

wow...
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Excuse me?

If you drop something like a bowling ball out of a window on the 100th floor of a building JUST AS THE BUILDING starts to collapse...

and the bowling ball hits the ground 3 seconds before the 100th floor hits the ground...

the 100th floor WAS NOT COLLAPSING at free fall speed.

Now...

if YOU do not have the brain power to reason that out on you own...

I would not take too much stock in any other opinion YOU might want to banter.
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I rather stick to the facts than some wild theory as the one you just stated.

It's funny how to just ignore that ALL people agree on the fact that the building 7 fell at free fall speed, the so called truthers as well as the governtment/NIST report all agree on this, it's only you, who doesn't. wake up lol...
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Wild theory?

What wild theory?

And about building 7.

How many friggen times do I have to repeat myself?

Look at an UNEDITED video of the collapse of WTC 7.

The collapse starts when the penthouse falls in which was at least 4 or more seconds before the rest of the building collapses.

Or don't YOU count that as part of the collapse?

YOU do realize that for the penthouse to collapse columns under it had to collapse?

Do YOU really know anything about buildings?

Other than what you've seen in so-called truth videos with really cheesy music added?
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Unbeknownst to the Americans, however, was that Bout (who the CIA still believed was their asset) the week before the 9/11 attacks was tasked by his CIA handler Plame to deliver to Houston, Texas approximately 15 tonnes of Russian military PVV-5A Plastic Explosive plastic explosive (one of the most powerful in the world) through his, Bout’s Texas based air company IRBIS and to be signed for by Marvin Bush, President George Bush’s younger brother, and Wirt Walker III, George Bush’s cousin.

Important to note about Marvin Bush and Wirt Walker III is that at the time of the 9/11 attacks they were both directors of the American security company named Stratesec (formally known as Securacom) which was given a $8.3 million contract to help provide security at the World Trade Center and which the weekend prior to the attacks completely closed this massive skyscraper complex for 36 hours to “upgrade” its security system.

Now Bout in being curious, to say the least, as to why the Bush Family needed so much Russian explosives for their “upgrade” of the World Trade Center complex was “invited” by Marvin Bush to come to New York City to watch “the big show”, an offer Bout did not refuse. And so the night prior to 9/11 Bout traveled to New York City where he was met by Bush “operatives” working for the Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA), who “coincidentally” had scheduled an emergency exercise for the morning of September 11, 2001 that all too soon became real.


15 tonnes of russian high explosives explains why their was nothing left afterwards.
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Got a source for this data?
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sure do heres two

[link to www.themistsofavalon.net]

[link to gatewaytoheaven.ning.com]


interestingly enough the viktor bout mentioned is the same guy dimitri was defending in thailand.

he has been extradited to the U.S. and is currently in New York correctional facility.
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The MYTH is that they FELL.

all videos clearly show the two 100+ story steel framed and
steel cored structures imploding and disintegrating.

If it "fell" the contents would have been CRUSHED...
you truth deniers won't address the obvious evidence
of the remains not matching the official story.

your minds were sold a lie.

but the facts are too scary for the small minds to even
contemplate.
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Maybe you are rigt,lets say you are. Doesnt change anything about how many lies and loose ends there are regarding 911.
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I can and HAVE debunked a lot of other so-called truth "facts" here at GLP over the years.

Let's try to stick to one friggen topic today and not obfuscate.
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Please stop using that fucking word. It's quite fucking annoying. Thanks.
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If you watch WTC collapse videos you will see debri hitting the ground from where the collapse started LONG before that area of the building hits the ground.

At least 3 seconds before.

Yet so-called truthers repeat time and time again that the towers fell at free fall speed.

So you see debri blossoming out and falling at free fall speed yet the towers collapse is just a bit slower.

ANYONE with a functioning brain and eyes can see the statement that they fell at free fall speed is wrong.

Yet so-called truthers repeat it over and over and over again.

Kind of muddies the veracity of their other claims.

If you want to reply to this post STAY on TOPIC.

Meaning free fall speed.

Do NOT use the obfuscate gambit or I will just remove your post.
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Buildings that are demolished by controlled implosion demolition do not collapse at freefall speed, but that illusion is created. These building were brought down by a series of explosions going off in rapid sequence, the purpose was to bring them down in as tight an area as possible and prevent collateral damage. The WTC complex in its entirety was demolished intentionally to create the illusion that the planes caused it.
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If you see the WHOLE collapse start to finish the penthouse collapses 5 or 6 seconds BEFORE the rest of the building comes down.


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He thinks a controlled demolition starts from the top. Better go back to your books, it starts from the basement!
 Quoting: Tekunda


LMFAO!!

That's what I was thinking all along and was too bothered to write until now.

Mr. Genius was measuring fall from the top. He was measuring the fall of what was shook off from the top!!! lol.

Free fall is measured in time.

OP is making uneducated generalizations.
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Please learn the difference between free fall accelerator/rate and free fall speed.

Building 7 for instance fell at free fall speed for 100 feet then continued into what's called 'free fall rate' which means it gains momentum and does not meet resistance.

Educated yourself before you look like an ass, also stay off the fluoridated water.
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OK, I will step away from WTC 1 & 2 for just this one comment.

Building 7 did not fall at free fall speed either and actually took A LOT longer than WTC 1 & 2.

You have to look at an unedited video though.

If you see the WHOLE collapse start to finish the penthouse collapses 5 or 6 seconds BEFORE the rest of the building comes down.

I will tell you where the failure started.

Did you know that the building had a few diagonal columns?

Most so-called truthers don't because they've never looked at the plans.

That diagonal column just happened to be in the area of the burning fuel tank for the city's emergency generators.

Besides if you go to the firehouse.com website you can read interviews of the firemen involved at WTC 7

They describe the mortal damage to the building and tell that they knew it was going to collapse hours before it did.
 Quoting: G. House


LOL. Yeah, and the witnesses who heard a series of explosions @ WTC7, and it's just a coincidence that the CIA, FEMA, SEC (Enron files) happened to be in the Solomon Brothers building... leased by the same Larry Silverstein, ultra-zionist financier, money man for Benyamin "911 is vert good for Israel" Netanyahu's campaign and overall major Mossad/AIPAC asset...

You never know what's coming, really... What a tragedy for the law enforcement / disaster management / intelligence / financial audit community (supposed to be scrutinizing the actions of ultra-Zionist and CIA man Franck G. Wisner when he was 2nd in chief @ Enron).

Those WICKED, WICKED diagonal columns...

LMAO @ OP.
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sigh. yes, you! the benevolent protector of all GLP. if you can't understand why people can't stand you then perhaps this is your lot in life. enjoy it. if you really want to help out GLP, cut out the fucking trolling. there are enough AC's to do that already.
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How is presenting something easily observable to the human eye and reasoning process trolling?
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jesus youre thick aren't you? just because you BELIEVE you know what you are seeing, doesn't mean a goddamned thing. you focus on one tiny detail and the semantics of what "free fall" means and you think your fucking einstein. when you compile all the other evidence it really doesn't matter if "most truthers" (whatever the fuck that means, operationalize your variables) say anything about free fall or not. why would you even waste your time on people who may not even know what it means? with all the other evidence, what is the truth in the end? that is the point. not your petulant little rant about semantics with proles. asshole.
 Quoting: Half-Ass


OK,

I don't get it then.

So-called truthers make a very large point about it being free fall speed.

In FACT it was not.

Now YOU'RE saying that wasn't important?

And let's get one thing straight.

In the past I've debunked most of the other points made by so-called truthers.

I was just trying to keep it simple today.

I'm ALWAYS amazed at the amount of hate this generates among so-called truthers.

Really tends to make me think a few of you are a bit unbalanced.
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once again, who are all these so called truthers? and attempting to suggest someone is "unbalanced" does nothing for your argument. makes you look like more of an asshole. read this again and answer the fucking question.
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I would be ashamed to claim I believed the official story about 911. You make yourself out to be a person of inferior intellectual qualities who lacks common sense.
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Re: So-called 911 truth myth #1, Towers fell at free fall speed.
SOME people say "at free fall speed" but the closer true statement is "NEARLY at free fall speed"

The reason it is important is that a pancake style collapse will come NO WHERE NEAR free fall speed.

The only way to fall at NEARLY perfect FFS is to have the resistance below the falling object removed. In this case 2 roughly 110 story buildings + a 47 story building.
And whereas the 2 x 110 story buildings appear to be mortally wounded even though far from it...there is NO legitimate logical explanation for why the 47 story building fell at ALL, let alone at NEARLY FFS.


So Dr. Gregory House....you can stand on the technicality of many people getting lazy and dropping the adjective NEARLY, but that does not change the basic underlying law of physics facts that 'so called truthers' as you label them are pointing to.

FFS has just become the sound byte to try and expand peoples minds, and as with all sound bytes it contains the essential essence of the truth, but is not in and of itself all descriptive of that truth.

Better luck stirring the shit pot next time.
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answer this OP.
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Re: So-called 911 truth myth #1, Towers fell at free fall speed.
SOME people say "at free fall speed" but the closer true statement is "NEARLY at free fall speed"

The reason it is important is that a pancake style collapse will come NO WHERE NEAR free fall speed.

The only way to fall at NEARLY perfect FFS is to have the resistance below the falling object removed. In this case 2 roughly 110 story buildings + a 47 story building.
And whereas the 2 x 110 story buildings appear to be mortally wounded even though far from it...there is NO legitimate logical explanation for why the 47 story building fell at ALL, let alone at NEARLY FFS.


So Dr. Gregory House....you can stand on the technicality of many people getting lazy and dropping the adjective NEARLY, but that does not change the basic underlying law of physics facts that 'so called truthers' as you label them are pointing to.

FFS has just become the sound byte to try and expand peoples minds, and as with all sound bytes it contains the essential essence of the truth, but is not in and of itself all descriptive of that truth.

Better luck stirring the shit pot next time.
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answer this, OP you arrogant asshole. and not with some petty semantics.
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Yet if you go back in the posts I did make quite a few comments about building 7 already.

I take it you either missed them or chose to ignore them.

OK, one more time.

The collapse of building 7 has to be timed from AT LEAST the start of the collapse of the penthouse, a good 4 seconds before the rest starts to collapse.

And for the penthouse to collapse there had to be failure of the columns underneath it. So the building actually started to collapse before the visible collapse of the penthouse.

Which in total is a LONG way from free fall my friend.
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Re: So-called 911 truth myth #1, Towers fell at free fall speed.
As an avid follower of 9-11 truth, as I know you are G-House, I know you know that the actual speed was so considerably close to freefall speed that it makes little difference.

"Freefall speed" is a safe generalisation, an approximation that is commonly accepted as self evident.

Do you go around breaking up groups of people talking about the blue sky because they fail to acknowldge clouds, rainbows, sunrise, sunset or night time?

Or parents who complain their children run around at a hundred miles an hour, telling them how unlikely their statement must be?

How about folks that say they're going to put in 110% because by definition it is impossible to put in more that 100% effort.

Or do you only troll the people agitating to try and secure your freedom from tyrany ?

No it wasn't freefall speed, but it was nothing like the speed of 1 floor crashing into another below it times the number of floors that needed to be compromised 1 by 1 in that method.
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Re: So-called 911 truth myth #1, Towers fell at free fall speed.
G. House - please provide evidence for your claims, that is how you debunk things.

At the moment, there is only evidence that points to a free fall collapse, brought forward by independent sources as well as official sources.

IT IS A UNDISPUTED FACT, THAT WTC7 COLLAPSED AT FREE FALL SPEED!

Get over yourself, you are wrong. Why do you think there is NOBODY else backing up your claims?

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