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So-called 911 truth myth #1, Towers fell at free fall speed.

 
G. House (OP)

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Simplistic?

All I said is they didn't fall at free fall speed and its obvious because you can see debri falling faster than the buildings are.

Easy to verify by watching a video.

I didn't say or make comment on any other aspect in the OP.

For that I've actually gotten death threats in the negative Karma comments.

What a great bunch of people so-called truthers are for that!

See? You people show your true nature all the time.

Truth of that could be seen in all the conspiracy crap posted about airshow accidents.
 Quoting: G. House


Let me try and keep it simplistic for you G-House.

9-11 truthers are mortified that their government(s) appear to be willing to kill anyone to meet their own ends. Even their own constituants.

It's really scary to believe the people responsible for looking after you are actually trying to kill you, and not even personally, but just as collatoral damage.

They see anyone who blindly supports this kind of threat as part of the threat and they are often willing to meet deadly force with deadly force.

Just thank God you're anonymous here. Humans have always had a consistent way of dealing with things that threaten life.

-- Everyone else, whenever I comment against g-House, I get negative karma accusing me of liking water sports or being a busy body. He never addresses me directly, but I get paid back for my efforts against him.

if anyone has any karma left, can you please give me a vote for or against my efforts on this thread (as you see fit)?
 Quoting: Elephant Worker


WTF are you saying?

I only have ONE account here at GLP.

Look at your Karma, I've given you +1 today.

I cannot give you any Karma for a week now.

I have nothing to do with anybody else giving you any.
"Everybody lies."
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09/25/2011 11:18 AM
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Re: So-called 911 truth myth #1, Towers fell at free fall speed.
Please learn the difference between free fall accelerator/rate and free fall speed.

Building 7 for instance fell at free fall speed for 100 feet then continued into what's called 'free fall rate' which means it gains momentum and does not meet resistance.

Educated yourself before you look like an ass, also stay off the fluoridated water.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1425269


OK, I will step away from WTC 1 & 2 for just this one comment.

Building 7 did not fall at free fall speed either and actually took A LOT longer than WTC 1 & 2.

You have to look at an unedited video though.

If you see the WHOLE collapse start to finish the penthouse collapses 5 or 6 seconds BEFORE the rest of the building comes down.

I will tell you where the failure started.

Did you know that the building had a few diagonal columns?

Most so-called truthers don't because they've never looked at the plans.


That diagonal column just happened to be in the area of the burning fuel tank for the city's emergency generators.

Besides if you go to the firehouse.com website you can read interviews of the firemen involved at WTC 7

They describe the mortal damage to the building and tell that they knew it was going to collapse hours before it did.
 Quoting: G. House


Thousands of engineres have come forward to squash your bullshit..it was a controled teardown -so shut the fuck up.. I dont care if you are a mod- your talking out of your ass..."FreeFall" thats all you got? the term is just that...define it how you like..No fucking way THREE buildings fell so perfect onto themselves the way they did..

bsflag
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101 0ne star votes....Dr. house? should be Dr. bridge...cause thats what trolls live under.
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09/25/2011 11:22 AM
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It's OK, OP, we all have to reap what we sow. If it hurts too much to admit that "Big Brother" inappropriately touched you, we can't force you... To your supervisor (assuming he is doing HIS job in a less "ham-fisted" manor than you are): Fire this tool he's an inefficient unit that weakens the chain-that-binds. He's not even swaying the weak minded GLP crowd.
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G. House (OP)

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09/25/2011 11:23 AM

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So-called truthers are really shallow and small.

Most of you have made this into something personal.

There is no free flow of information at GLP.

Someone post's something you don't like and you make it personal TIME AND TIME AGAIN.

It's a laugh really.

So-called truthers often put themselves up as being enlightened, intelligent, insightful, etc.

What a friggen laugh!
"Everybody lies."
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09/25/2011 11:24 AM

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Thousands of engineres have come forward to squash your bullshit..
 Quoting: Rise Above The Fear


Actually. less than 2000 engineers and a handful of architects...

There are over 2.2 million Engineers in the US alone, and in the neighborhood of 100,000 licensed architects...

That's less than 1/10,000 of a percent...

But hey...

It's entirely possible that those other 99.9999% are wrong...

pick
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Re: So-called 911 truth myth #1, Towers fell at free fall speed.
the speed of fall might be debated without obvious clarity

the fact building 7 fell at all, as if it had no support during the few seconds it came down

is clear.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1420527


Everybody needs to stop trying to argue facts that we all saw and know are true. All three buildings were brought down by explosives. There is no need to argue this point any further. Arguing this point suggests doubt in the mind of the person who says the buildings were demolished. There is no doubt, so there is no point in arguing any further.

One day, when the giant media companies are no longer, a generation will reflect on 911 and memorialize it as a crime perpetrated by corporate and military interests from multiple countries. 2+2=5 will no longer have to be dealt with, and that tyranny will be irrelevant. Hold tight and all will adjust properly, but never let go of your fervent hold on the truth.
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Thousands of engineres have come forward to squash your bullshit..
 Quoting: Rise Above The Fear


Actually. less than 2000 engineers and a handful of architects...

There are over 2.2 million Engineers in the US alone, and in the neighborhood of 100,000 licensed architects...

That's less than 1/10,000 of a percent...

But hey...

It's entirely possible that those other 99.9999% are wrong...

pick
 Quoting: SnakeAirlines


bumpbeer2
anonymous321

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09/25/2011 11:27 AM
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Re: So-called 911 truth myth #1, Towers fell at free fall speed.
If you watch WTC collapse videos you will see debri hitting the ground from where the collapse started LONG before that area of the building hits the ground.

At least 3 seconds before.

Yet so-called truthers repeat time and time again that the towers fell at free fall speed.

So you see debri blossoming out and falling at free fall speed yet the towers collapse is just a bit slower.

ANYONE with a functioning brain and eyes can see the statement that they fell at free fall speed is wrong.

Yet so-called truthers repeat it over and over and over again.

Kind of muddies the veracity of their other claims.

If you want to reply to this post STAY on TOPIC.

Meaning free fall speed.

Do NOT use the obfuscate gambit or I will just remove your post.
 Quoting: G. House


This just came out this month...what's your opinion?
[link to www.dailymail.co.uk]

Last Edited by anonymous321 on 09/25/2011 11:33 AM
G. House (OP)

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Re: So-called 911 truth myth #1, Towers fell at free fall speed.
It's OK, OP, we all have to reap what we sow. If it hurts too much to admit that "Big Brother" inappropriately touched you, we can't force you... To your supervisor (assuming he is doing HIS job in a less "ham-fisted" manor than you are): Fire this tool he's an inefficient unit that weakens the chain-that-binds. He's not even swaying the weak minded GLP crowd.
 Quoting: RawElk0Armed


Apparently that is the best you can do?

A personal attack.

Well not that it shocks me.

That's what so-called truthers do.

You have become so jaded by constantly bearing false witness you will stop at nothing.

IF...

all you maniacs said about TPTB was true...

you would have all been dragged from your abodes long ago...

and disappeared.

Yet you are all HERE, bantering on as usual.
"Everybody lies."
Elephant Worker

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09/25/2011 11:28 AM

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WTF are you saying?

I only have ONE account here at GLP.

Look at your Karma, I've given you +1 today.

I cannot give you any Karma for a week now.

I have nothing to do with anybody else giving you any.
 Quoting: G. House


Well thank you for the Karma :)

I did then lose two for an abusive post. Not sure what that's about as I'm careful to tread around the whole abuse idea.

One step forward, two steps back. Feels like i'm in a Paula Abdul song.
Has anyone else noticed this elephant in the lounge room ?

Another block of writing from Elephant full of supposition and condescension whilst saying pretty much nothing. - EggNigma 2/2/2011
G. House (OP)

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09/25/2011 11:32 AM

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Thousands of engineres have come forward to squash your bullshit..
 Quoting: Rise Above The Fear


Actually. less than 2000 engineers and a handful of architects...

There are over 2.2 million Engineers in the US alone, and in the neighborhood of 100,000 licensed architects...

That's less than 1/10,000 of a percent...

But hey...

It's entirely possible that those other 99.9999% are wrong...

pick
 Quoting: SnakeAirlines


bumpbeer2
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The number of engineers that are so-called truthers expressed as a percentage of the total number of engineers is quite similar to the percentage of the general population that is clinically insane.
"Everybody lies."
Anonymous Coward
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09/25/2011 11:34 AM
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First of all get your own facts straight OP. It and that is facts not that the "towers" fell at free fall speed. That is NOT the sighargument. Building 7 fell at free fall speed and that is fact. So next time before you go and try to debunk anything at least take the time to get right that which you are trying to debunk.
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Thousands of engineres have come forward to squash your bullshit..
 Quoting: Rise Above The Fear


Actually. less than 2000 engineers and a handful of architects...

There are over 2.2 million Engineers in the US alone, and in the neighborhood of 100,000 licensed architects...

That's less than 1/10,000 of a percent...

But hey...

It's entirely possible that those other 99.9999% are wrong...

pick
 Quoting: SnakeAirlines


and youve obviously checked with them all have you?
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09/25/2011 11:36 AM
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Re: So-called 911 truth myth #1, Towers fell at free fall speed.
the speed of fall might be debated without obvious clarity

the fact building 7 fell at all, as if it had no support during the few seconds it came down

is clear.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1420527


Everybody needs to stop trying to argue facts that we all saw and know are true. All three buildings were brought down by explosives. There is no need to argue this point any further. Arguing this point suggests doubt in the mind of the person who says the buildings were demolished. There is no doubt, so there is no point in arguing any further.

One day, when the giant media companies are no longer, a generation will reflect on 911 and memorialize it as a crime perpetrated by corporate and military interests from multiple countries. 2+2=5 will no longer have to be dealt with, and that tyranny will be irrelevant. Hold tight and all will adjust properly, but never let go of your fervent hold on the truth.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1845702


If the terrorists worked for the airlines, why couldn't they have planted explosives in the buildings? Why does it always have to be the government? I will never understand the truthers point of view.

Last Edited by anonymous321 on 09/25/2011 11:37 AM
G. House (OP)

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Re: So-called 911 truth myth #1, Towers fell at free fall speed.
the speed of fall might be debated without obvious clarity

the fact building 7 fell at all, as if it had no support during the few seconds it came down

is clear.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1420527


Everybody needs to stop trying to argue facts that we all saw and know are true. All three buildings were brought down by explosives. There is no need to argue this point any further. Arguing this point suggests doubt in the mind of the person who says the buildings were demolished. There is no doubt, so there is no point in arguing any further.

One day, when the giant media companies are no longer, a generation will reflect on 911 and memorialize it as a crime perpetrated by corporate and military interests from multiple countries. 2+2=5 will no longer have to be dealt with, and that tyranny will be irrelevant. Hold tight and all will adjust properly, but never let go of your fervent hold on the truth.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1845702


Doubtful.

Again, I've seen just about every controlled demolition video available.

In the ones that have sound the noise made by the explosive quills firing is VERY loud and obvious.

You do not hear that in the videos of the WTC collapses.

Furthermore in the case of WTC 1 & 2.

There were over 200 perimeter columns in each tower.

Explosive charges or the use of thermite on those columns would have been obvious but that's not seen either.
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Thousands of engineres have come forward to squash your bullshit..
 Quoting: Rise Above The Fear


Actually. less than 2000 engineers and a handful of architects...

There are over 2.2 million Engineers in the US alone, and in the neighborhood of 100,000 licensed architects...

That's less than 1/10,000 of a percent...

But hey...

It's entirely possible that those other 99.9999% are wrong...

pick
 Quoting: SnakeAirlines


and youve obviously checked with them all have you?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1212586


Have you?
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OP.

The NIST "official" 9/11 commission fails to mention WTC 7.


Shut the fuck up.
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09/25/2011 11:39 AM
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Nobody here agrees with you.

This thread has 1 star.

You still won't back off from this so-called debunking.

You know that nobody here is buying what you're selling so just call it a wrap and get back to the drawing board.
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Re: So-called 911 truth myth #1, Towers fell at free fall speed.
If you watch WTC collapse videos you will see debri hitting the ground from where the collapse started LONG before that area of the building hits the ground.

At least 3 seconds before.

Yet so-called truthers repeat time and time again that the towers fell at free fall speed.

So you see debri blossoming out and falling at free fall speed yet the towers collapse is just a bit slower.

ANYONE with a functioning brain and eyes can see the statement that they fell at free fall speed is wrong.

Yet so-called truthers repeat it over and over and over again.

Kind of muddies the veracity of their other claims.

If you want to reply to this post STAY on TOPIC.

Meaning free fall speed.

Do NOT use the obfuscate gambit or I will just remove your post.
 Quoting: G. House


This just came out this month...what's your opinion?
[link to www.dailymail.co.uk]
 Quoting: anonymous321


I'll tell you truthfully I haven't looked at that in depth yet. Sounds a bit sketchy from a quick glance though.
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OP.

The NIST "official" 9/11 commission fails to mention WTC 7.


Shut the fuck up.
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I thought they brought out a rather in depth report many years after the fact.
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Iranian president says co-ordinated explosion, not planes, caused towers' fall...nuf said...

AP interview: Iranian president says co-ordinated explosion, not planes, caused towers' fall

By Anne Gearan,Edith M. Lederer, The Associated Press | The Canadian Press – Thu, 22 Sep, 2011.. .

Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad says that as an engineer he's sure the twin towers were not brought down by jetliners.

Ahmadinejad, in an interview with The Associated Press, says it would have been impossible for two jetliners to bring down the towers simply by hitting them. he says some kind of planned explosion must have taken place.

Ahmadinejad stopped short of saying the United States staged the disaster 10 years ago. But he says there are questions the world should resolve, and noted there are doubters in the United States as well.

Ahmadinejad was denied his request last year to visit the site of the World Trade Center collapse. He says he's not making another attempt this year. He's in New York City for the U.N. General Assembly.
[link to ca.news.yahoo.com]
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It's OK, OP, we all have to reap what we sow. If it hurts too much to admit that "Big Brother" inappropriately touched you, we can't force you... To your supervisor (assuming he is doing HIS job in a less "ham-fisted" manor than you are): Fire this tool he's an inefficient unit that weakens the chain-that-binds. He's not even swaying the weak minded GLP crowd.
 Quoting: RawElk0Armed


Apparently that is the best you can do?

A personal attack.

Well not that it shocks me.

That's what so-called truthers do.

You have become so jaded by constantly bearing false witness you will stop at nothing.

IF...

all you maniacs said about TPTB was true...

you would have all been dragged from your abodes long ago...

and disappeared.

Yet you are all HERE, bantering on as usual.
 Quoting: G. House


LMAO, you take your online persona to seriously. Nothing you've stated here has been ground-breaking, inviting of SERIOUS discussion or even worthy of another tired round of "Nu-Uh, look at my link, I'm right!" I'm not a "truther", I'm a sovereign being and belong to no group that is vulnerable to infiltration. I don't even know you to make this personal. Get a real job (or a real life), but I won't hold my breath waiting for your weak sauce to gain strength. :)
The Truth Only Hurts When You Cling To A Lie, And All You Have Built Upon It. -R.A.P.B.
G. House (OP)

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Nobody here agrees with you.

This thread has 1 star.

You still won't back off from this so-called debunking.

You know that nobody here is buying what you're selling so just call it a wrap and get back to the drawing board.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1533498


Not really.

If you go through all the posts the so-called truthers are hedging by saying...

"near free fall speed".

Stars at GLP are rarely an indication of a posts veracity.

In fact it is often the opposite.
"Everybody lies."
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09/25/2011 11:47 AM
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Shill lays the bait -- Delphi all the way. They are practising for election season. Just like last time.
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Nobody here agrees with you.

This thread has 1 star.

You still won't back off from this so-called debunking.

You know that nobody here is buying what you're selling so just call it a wrap and get back to the drawing board.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1533498


Not really.

If you go through all the posts the so-called truthers are hedging by saying...

"near free fall speed".

Stars at GLP are rarely an indication of a posts veracity.

In fact it is often the opposite.
 Quoting: G. House


How's your psychopathic narcissism disorder affecting working for you?
G. House (OP)

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It's OK, OP, we all have to reap what we sow. If it hurts too much to admit that "Big Brother" inappropriately touched you, we can't force you... To your supervisor (assuming he is doing HIS job in a less "ham-fisted" manor than you are): Fire this tool he's an inefficient unit that weakens the chain-that-binds. He's not even swaying the weak minded GLP crowd.
 Quoting: RawElk0Armed


Apparently that is the best you can do?

A personal attack.

Well not that it shocks me.

That's what so-called truthers do.

You have become so jaded by constantly bearing false witness you will stop at nothing.

IF...

all you maniacs said about TPTB was true...

you would have all been dragged from your abodes long ago...

and disappeared.

Yet you are all HERE, bantering on as usual.
 Quoting: G. House


LMAO, you take your online persona to seriously. Nothing you've stated here has been ground-breaking, inviting of SERIOUS discussion or even worthy of another tired round of "Nu-Uh, look at my link, I'm right!" I'm not a "truther", I'm a sovereign being and belong to no group that is vulnerable to infiltration. I don't even know you to make this personal. Get a real job (or a real life), but I won't hold my breath waiting for your weak sauce to gain strength. :)
 Quoting: RawElk0Armed


Excuse me?

Accusing me of having sexual relations with a "handler" or even saying I'm paid to make posts at GLP is not a personal attack?

My persona here is identifiable in relation to my record here.

I actually have a poster who uses multiple accounts to give me Bad Karma (he numbers them and I've gotten 4 or 5 on the same day).
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PARIS — A mix of sprinkling system water and melted aluminium from aircraft hulls likely triggered the explosions that felled New York's Twin Towers on September 11, 2001, a materials expert has told a technology conference.

"If my theory is correct, tonnes of aluminium ran down through the towers, where the smelt came into contact with a few hundred litres of water," Christian Simensen, a scientist at SINTEF, an independent technology research institute based in Norway, said in a statement released Wednesday.



[link to www.rawstory.com]
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Re: So-called 911 truth myth #1, Towers fell at free fall speed.
If you watch WTC collapse videos you will see debri hitting the ground from where the collapse started LONG before that area of the building hits the ground.

At least 3 seconds before.

Yet so-called truthers repeat time and time again that the towers fell at free fall speed.

So you see debri blossoming out and falling at free fall speed yet the towers collapse is just a bit slower.

ANYONE with a functioning brain and eyes can see the statement that they fell at free fall speed is wrong.


Your initial statement is loaded with unstated assumptions that are unproven and therefore don't provide support for your conclusion.

The fact that debris blossomed out from the building means it was accelerated and thus it has an acceleration component in addition to gravity. This means it could have a speed greater than free fall depending on the direction of the acceleration vector. There is no way that the debris could have been ejected from the building without an acceleration vector in that direction. This means that it had a force applied to it other than gravity. This of course means that a speed greater than free fall could be achieved by a piece of debris so accelerated.

The basic assumption you make in your statement is that I can see debris hitting the ground from where the collapse started long before that area of the building hits the ground. I don't see any video that you have posted which demonstrates the fact you claim. Furthermore there is no way that you can prove that the greatest velocity of anything in those videos is free-fall. So relative speeds are irrelevant and your argument has no support from that basis either.

Thus you have proven nothing other than you can post an usubstantiated strawman argument and tear it down. There is no basis for your claim and thus I consider it to be a false claim on it's face. Prove your claim before asking others to refute it.
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Iranian president says co-ordinated explosion, not planes, caused towers' fall...nuf said...

AP interview: Iranian president says co-ordinated explosion, not planes, caused towers' fall

By Anne Gearan,Edith M. Lederer, The Associated Press | The Canadian Press – Thu, 22 Sep, 2011.. .

Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad says that as an engineer he's sure the twin towers were not brought down by jetliners.

Ahmadinejad, in an interview with The Associated Press, says it would have been impossible for two jetliners to bring down the towers simply by hitting them. he says some kind of planned explosion must have taken place.

Ahmadinejad stopped short of saying the United States staged the disaster 10 years ago. But he says there are questions the world should resolve, and noted there are doubters in the United States as well.

Ahmadinejad was denied his request last year to visit the site of the World Trade Center collapse. He says he's not making another attempt this year. He's in New York City for the U.N. General Assembly.
[link to ca.news.yahoo.com]
 Quoting: chumpisme


Ahmadinejad was one of the attackers of the US Embassy after the Shah fell.

A GREAT human being there!
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I'm not sure what you're trying to prove, if anything. Most of your past threads have been bs, and this one is no exception. Some pieces of debris hit the ground first because there was explosion right before the tower started to collapse, sending some debris along with it. There are new videos that were released a few weeks ago which prove there were explosions right before the towers fell. Please educate yourself on these topics before you go making foolish posts again.

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