So-called 911 truth myth #1, Towers fell at free fall speed.

How is presenting something easily observable to the human eye and reasoning process trolling?

Unbeknownst to the Americans, however, was that Bout (who the CIA still believed was their asset) the week before the 9/11 attacks was tasked by his CIA handler Plame to deliver to Houston, Texas approximately 15 tonnes of Russian military PVV-5A Plastic Explosive plastic explosive (one of the most powerful in the world) through his, Bout’s Texas based air company IRBIS and to be signed for by Marvin Bush, President George Bush’s younger brother, and Wirt Walker III, George Bush’s cousin.

Important to note about Marvin Bush and Wirt Walker III is that at the time of the 9/11 attacks they were both directors of the American security company named Stratesec (formally known as Securacom) which was given a $8.3 million contract to help provide security at the World Trade Center and which the weekend prior to the attacks completely closed this massive skyscraper complex for 36 hours to “upgrade” its security system.

Now Bout in being curious, to say the least, as to why the Bush Family needed so much Russian explosives for their “upgrade” of the World Trade Center complex was “invited” by Marvin Bush to come to New York City to watch “the big show”, an offer Bout did not refuse. And so the night prior to 9/11 Bout traveled to New York City where he was met by Bush “operatives” working for the Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA), who “coincidentally” had scheduled an emergency exercise for the morning of September 11, 2001 that all too soon became real.


15 tonnes of russian high explosives explains why their was nothing left afterwards.

If you watch WTC collapse videos you will see debri hitting the ground from where the collapse started LONG before that area of the building hits the ground.

At least 3 seconds before.

Yet so-called truthers repeat time and time again that the towers fell at free fall speed.

So you see debri blossoming out and falling at free fall speed yet the towers collapse is just a bit slower.

ANYONE with a functioning brain and eyes can see the statement that they fell at free fall speed is wrong.

Yet so-called truthers repeat it over and over and over again.

Kind of muddies the veracity of their other claims.

If you want to reply to this post STAY on TOPIC.

Meaning free fall speed.

Do NOT use the obfuscate gambit or I will just remove your post.

Wow!

12 negative Karma for pointing out an obvious error in the so-called truth MANTRA.

You are such fine people to do such a thing.

I'm glad I don't have to put up with people like you in REAL life.

SOME people say "at free fall speed" but the closer true statement is "NEARLY at free fall speed"

The reason it is important is that a pancake style collapse will come NO WHERE NEAR free fall speed.

The only way to fall at NEARLY perfect FFS is to have the resistance below the falling object removed. In this case 2 roughly 110 story buildings + a 47 story building.
And whereas the 2 x 110 story buildings appear to be mortally wounded even though far from it...there is NO legitimate logical explanation for why the 47 story building fell at ALL, let alone at NEARLY FFS.


So Dr. Gregory House....you can stand on the technicality of many people getting lazy and dropping the adjective NEARLY, but that does not change the basic underlying law of physics facts that 'so called truthers' as you label them are pointing to.

FFS has just become the sound byte to try and expand peoples minds, and as with all sound bytes it contains the essential essence of the truth, but is not in and of itself all descriptive of that truth.

Better luck stirring the shit pot next time.

jesus youre thick aren't you? just because you BELIEVE you know what you are seeing, doesn't mean a goddamned thing. you focus on one tiny detail and the semantics of what "free fall" means and you think your fucking einstein. when you compile all the other evidence it really doesn't matter if "most truthers" (whatever the fuck that means, operationalize your variables) say anything about free fall or not. why would you even waste your time on people who may not even know what it means? with all the other evidence, what is the truth in the end? that is the point. not your petulant little rant about semantics with proles. asshole.

jesus youre thick aren't you? just because you BELIEVE you know what you are seeing, doesn't mean a goddamned thing. you focus on one tiny detail and the semantics of what "free fall" means and you think your fucking einstein. when you compile all the other evidence it really doesn't matter if "most truthers" (whatever the fuck that means, operationalize your variables) say anything about free fall or not. why would you even waste your time on people who may not even know what it means? with all the other evidence, what is the truth in the end? that is the point. not your petulant little rant about semantics with proles. asshole.

I will keep syaing it alomost fell at nearly FREE FALL at nearly 10.2m/s and free fall is 9.8

Wild theory?

What wild theory?

And about building 7.

How many friggen times do I have to repeat myself?

Look at an UNEDITED video of the collapse of WTC 7.

The collapse starts when the penthouse falls in which was at least 4 or more seconds before the rest of the building collapses.

Or don't YOU count that as part of the collapse?

YOU do realize that for the penthouse to collapse columns under it had to collapse?

Do YOU really know anything about buildings?

Other than what you've seen in so-called truth videos with really cheesy music added?

Got a source for this data?

I can and HAVE debunked a lot of other so-called truth "facts" here at GLP over the years.

Let's try to stick to one friggen topic today and not obfuscate.

If you watch WTC collapse videos you will see debri hitting the ground from where the collapse started LONG before that area of the building hits the ground.

At least 3 seconds before.

Yet so-called truthers repeat time and time again that the towers fell at free fall speed.

So you see debri blossoming out and falling at free fall speed yet the towers collapse is just a bit slower.

ANYONE with a functioning brain and eyes can see the statement that they fell at free fall speed is wrong.

Yet so-called truthers repeat it over and over and over again.

Kind of muddies the veracity of their other claims.

If you want to reply to this post STAY on TOPIC.

Meaning free fall speed.

Do NOT use the obfuscate gambit or I will just remove your post.

He thinks a controlled demolition starts from the top. Better go back to your books, it starts from the basement!

OK, I will step away from WTC 1 & 2 for just this one comment.

Building 7 did not fall at free fall speed either and actually took A LOT longer than WTC 1 & 2.

You have to look at an unedited video though.

If you see the WHOLE collapse start to finish the penthouse collapses 5 or 6 seconds BEFORE the rest of the building comes down.

I will tell you where the failure started.

Did you know that the building had a few diagonal columns?

Most so-called truthers don't because they've never looked at the plans.

That diagonal column just happened to be in the area of the burning fuel tank for the city's emergency generators.

Besides if you go to the firehouse.com website you can read interviews of the firemen involved at WTC 7

They describe the mortal damage to the building and tell that they knew it was going to collapse hours before it did.

OK,

I don't get it then.

So-called truthers make a very large point about it being free fall speed.

In FACT it was not.

Now YOU'RE saying that wasn't important?

And let's get one thing straight.

In the past I've debunked most of the other points made by so-called truthers.

I was just trying to keep it simple today.

I'm ALWAYS amazed at the amount of hate this generates among so-called truthers.

Really tends to make me think a few of you are a bit unbalanced.

SOME people say "at free fall speed" but the closer true statement is "NEARLY at free fall speed"

The reason it is important is that a pancake style collapse will come NO WHERE NEAR free fall speed.

The only way to fall at NEARLY perfect FFS is to have the resistance below the falling object removed. In this case 2 roughly 110 story buildings + a 47 story building.
And whereas the 2 x 110 story buildings appear to be mortally wounded even though far from it...there is NO legitimate logical explanation for why the 47 story building fell at ALL, let alone at NEARLY FFS.


So Dr. Gregory House....you can stand on the technicality of many people getting lazy and dropping the adjective NEARLY, but that does not change the basic underlying law of physics facts that 'so called truthers' as you label them are pointing to.

FFS has just become the sound byte to try and expand peoples minds, and as with all sound bytes it contains the essential essence of the truth, but is not in and of itself all descriptive of that truth.

Better luck stirring the shit pot next time.

answer this, OP you arrogant asshole. and not with some petty semantics.

As an avid follower of 9-11 truth, as I know you are G-House, I know you know that the actual speed was so considerably close to freefall speed that it makes little difference.

"Freefall speed" is a safe generalisation, an approximation that is commonly accepted as self evident.

Do you go around breaking up groups of people talking about the blue sky because they fail to acknowldge clouds, rainbows, sunrise, sunset or night time?

Or parents who complain their children run around at a hundred miles an hour, telling them how unlikely their statement must be?

How about folks that say they're going to put in 110% because by definition it is impossible to put in more that 100% effort.

Or do you only troll the people agitating to try and secure your freedom from tyrany ?

No it wasn't freefall speed, but it was nothing like the speed of 1 floor crashing into another below it times the number of floors that needed to be compromised 1 by 1 in that method.