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WTC fires in 1975, why didnt it pancake back then ? | |
| Swampgasser Offer Upgrade  User ID: 1544919  Sweden09/25/2011 06:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| G. House User ID: 1554722  United States09/25/2011 06:56 PM  Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The 1975 Quoting: Swampgasser World Trade Center Fires.. 6 floors around 11th floor burned intensely for 3-4 hours heavy intence fires according to firemen, question is why didn it fall/pancake back then with all the heavy building on top of these lower floors ;) [link to bellaciao.org] [link to www.youtube.com] Totally different construction methods in the lower and basement floor compared to the upper floors. If I remember correctly only one column was slightly damaged and most of the stuff in that area was reinforced concrete. "Everybody lies." |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 869449 United States09/25/2011 06:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1491877 United States09/25/2011 06:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The 1975 Quoting: Swampgasser World Trade Center Fires.. 6 floors around 11th floor burned intensely for 3-4 hours heavy intence fires according to firemen, question is why didn it fall/pancake back then with all the heavy building on top of these lower floors ;) [link to bellaciao.org] [link to www.youtube.com] Totally different construction methods in the lower and basement floor compared to the upper floors. If I remember correctly only one column was slightly damaged and most of the stuff in that area was reinforced concrete.  |
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| Mercurius User ID: 1375863 United States09/25/2011 07:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Some reasons I can think of: 1) They would have been fueled only by fuel available in the offices. 2) They would have spread slowly spreading heat load on the structure. Offices aren't going to burn hot for all that long. Likely only minutes per room until the fire dies down. 3) They weren't fueled by an entire plane load of fuel. 4) The insulation on the beams would have stayed intact. 5) The structure wasn't already damaged. |
| G. House User ID: 1554722 United States09/25/2011 07:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The 1975 Quoting: Swampgasser World Trade Center Fires.. 6 floors around 11th floor burned intensely for 3-4 hours heavy intence fires according to firemen, question is why didn it fall/pancake back then with all the heavy building on top of these lower floors ;) [link to bellaciao.org] [link to www.youtube.com] Totally different construction methods in the lower and basement floor compared to the upper floors. If I remember correctly only one column was slightly damaged and most of the stuff in that area was reinforced concrete. Excuse me laughing boy! Are you saying that isn't true? That the construction wasn't radically different than that at the 80th or so floor. It was a friggen parking garage. Made of reinforced concrete. You could have easily converted it into a bunker. "Everybody lies." |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1556553 United States09/25/2011 07:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The 1975 Quoting: Swampgasser World Trade Center Fires.. 6 floors around 11th floor burned intensely for 3-4 hours heavy intence fires according to firemen, question is why didn it fall/pancake back then with all the heavy building on top of these lower floors ;) [link to bellaciao.org] [link to www.youtube.com] Totally different construction methods in the lower and basement floor compared to the upper floors. If I remember correctly only one column was slightly damaged and most of the stuff in that area was reinforced concrete. Your rehearsing for a new reality show called the "Nut Case Files" right? Nobody can be this ignorant. |
| A Voice In The Wilderness User ID: 1506783 United States09/25/2011 07:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The 1975 Quoting: Swampgasser World Trade Center Fires.. 6 floors around 11th floor burned intensely for 3-4 hours heavy intence fires according to firemen, question is why didn it fall/pancake back then with all the heavy building on top of these lower floors ;) [link to bellaciao.org] [link to www.youtube.com] Totally different construction methods in the lower and basement floor compared to the upper floors. If I remember correctly only one column was slightly damaged and most of the stuff in that area was reinforced concrete. PAID GOVERNMENT SHILL SPEAKS OUT. You should try to make it less obvious sir. The Truth About Thread: The FINAL EVENTS Of Bible Prophecy "We here are of the conviction that the papacy is the seat of the true and real Antichrist." - Martin Luther (Aug. 18, 1520) "While God has given ample evidence for faith, He will never remove all excuse for unbelief. All who look for hooks to hang their doubts upon will find them. And those who refuse to accept and obey God's Word until every objection has been removed, and there is no longer an opportunity for doubt, will never come to the light" (The Great Controversy, p. 527). "Jesus did not come to change the law, but he came to explain it, and that very fact shows that it remains, for there is no need to explain that which is abrogated." - Charles Spurgeon "Jesuit Adam Weishaupt established the modern version of the Illuminati specifically to be a front organization behind which the Jesuits could hide. After being formally abolished by Pope Clement XIV in 1773, the Jesuits used the Illuminati and other organizations to carry out their operations. Thus, the front organizations would be blamed for the trouble caused by the Jesuits." Bill Hughes (Author of The Secret Terrorists and The Enemy Unmasked) |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1994987 United States09/25/2011 07:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| :) User ID: 2001209 Canada09/25/2011 07:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The 1975 Quoting: Swampgasser World Trade Center Fires.. 6 floors around 11th floor burned intensely for 3-4 hours heavy intence fires according to firemen, question is why didn it fall/pancake back then with all the heavy building on top of these lower floors ;) [link to bellaciao.org] [link to www.youtube.com] Totally different construction methods in the lower and basement floor compared to the upper floors. If I remember correctly only one column was slightly damaged and most of the stuff in that area was reinforced concrete. G. Louse is a hoot eh? |
| G. House User ID: 1554722 United States09/25/2011 07:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The 1975 Quoting: Swampgasser World Trade Center Fires.. 6 floors around 11th floor burned intensely for 3-4 hours heavy intence fires according to firemen, question is why didn it fall/pancake back then with all the heavy building on top of these lower floors ;) [link to bellaciao.org] [link to www.youtube.com] Totally different construction methods in the lower and basement floor compared to the upper floors. If I remember correctly only one column was slightly damaged and most of the stuff in that area was reinforced concrete. Excuse me laughing boy! Are you saying that isn't true? That the construction wasn't radically different than that at the 80th or so floor. It was a friggen parking garage. Made of reinforced concrete. You could have easily converted it into a bunker. Oops, confused this with the 1993 bombing. Sorry. "Everybody lies." |
| G. House User ID: 1554722 United States09/25/2011 07:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The 1975 Quoting: Swampgasser World Trade Center Fires.. 6 floors around 11th floor burned intensely for 3-4 hours heavy intence fires according to firemen, question is why didn it fall/pancake back then with all the heavy building on top of these lower floors ;) [link to bellaciao.org] [link to www.youtube.com] Totally different construction methods in the lower and basement floor compared to the upper floors. If I remember correctly only one column was slightly damaged and most of the stuff in that area was reinforced concrete. PAID GOVERNMENT SHILL SPEAKS OUT. You should try to make it less obvious sir. Nope, confused this with the 1993 bombing, my bad. "Everybody lies." |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1146982  Ireland09/25/2011 07:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Swampgasser (OP) User ID: 1544919 Sweden09/25/2011 07:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The 1975 Quoting: Swampgasser World Trade Center Fires.. 6 floors around 11th floor burned intensely for 3-4 hours heavy intence fires according to firemen, question is why didn it fall/pancake back then with all the heavy building on top of these lower floors ;) [link to bellaciao.org] [link to www.youtube.com] Totally different construction methods in the lower and basement floor compared to the upper floors. If I remember correctly only one column was slightly damaged and most of the stuff in that area was reinforced concrete. face palm ,,you are tripping on your own shoestrings , didnt you just say that the steel could possibly melt or weakened though the whole building thoughout in another thread ? Those reinforced section you just mentioned would have not have totally disintegrated like it did in real life if your statement is right , first the beams and core would have been totally cool and rigid and have full strength beams and core in the complete section 10-15 floors below actual hit, if not even higher, it swould have slowed down a fall considerably, or even totally be halted halfway down , it was rigged no doubt [link to www.youtube.com] |
| G. House User ID: 1554722 United States09/25/2011 07:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The 1975 Quoting: Swampgasser World Trade Center Fires.. 6 floors around 11th floor burned intensely for 3-4 hours heavy intence fires according to firemen, question is why didn it fall/pancake back then with all the heavy building on top of these lower floors ;) [link to bellaciao.org] [link to www.youtube.com] OK, I got the right incident now. According to the article half the offices on the floor the fire started on were involved in the fire which tells me roughly half the floor was on fire. Furthermore: Only the 11th floor office area was burned, but extensive water damage occurred on the 9th and 10th floors, and smoke damage extended as far as the 15th floor, the spokesman said. Although there were no direct casualties, 28 of the 150 firemen called to the scene suffered minor injuries. The article also says that the fires that started on other floor were small and easily contained and started because of wiring pass throughs. So it wasn't much of a fire in scope. An aircraft didn't run into the building and explode cutting 13 perimeter columns and 4 core columns. Because of that floor joists did not lose their flame retardant. And you do of course realize that ALL the columns are much thicker on the 11th floor as compared to the 80th? Probably a bunch of other factors I haven't mentioned. "Everybody lies." |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1280257 United States09/25/2011 08:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Burt Gummer User ID: 2004886 United States09/25/2011 08:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You didn't have 45,000 gallons of JET FUEL in the fire.  Last Edited by Useless Cookie Eater on 09/25/2011 08:12 PM |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1536650  United Kingdom09/25/2011 08:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The 1975 Quoting: Swampgasser World Trade Center Fires.. 6 floors around 11th floor burned intensely for 3-4 hours heavy intence fires according to firemen, question is why didn it fall/pancake back then with all the heavy building on top of these lower floors ;) [link to bellaciao.org] [link to www.youtube.com] Totally different construction methods in the lower and basement floor compared to the upper floors. If I remember correctly only one column was slightly damaged and most of the stuff in that area was reinforced concrete. Somebody had to come on debunk this. Is this guy one of they government fucks trying to debunk everything or what? |
| Dr. House User ID: 1527778 United States09/25/2011 08:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Fie protection was still intact on the beams exposed to a mere fire. For the airliner 'accident' the initial impact followed by the blast of the explosion of fuel 'blew off' much of the sprayer asbestos that was on the steel members. Sinkhole list: Thread: Sinkholes Updated 28 Dec 2010 find a sinkhole, add it to this thread, please. "Whoever hates his brother is a murderer, and you know that no murderer has eternal life abiding in him." (1 John 3:15, NKJV). |
| Swampgasser (OP) User ID: 1544919 Sweden09/26/2011 12:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Fie protection was still intact on the beams exposed to a mere fire. Quoting: Dr. House For the airliner 'accident' the initial impact followed by the blast of the explosion of fuel 'blew off' much of the sprayer asbestos that was on the steel members. Only the sections surounding the actual impact and were the actual fuel explosion were taking place, below that,, say 10 storys below it would not have been damaged, and yet no fires (even uncoated) that could have damaged the steel so much that it would give way below 10 storys ,,the beams would have been cool down there and strong enough to hold up the upper sections , how do you explain the waving people in the big hole ? how could they withstand the heat and melting beams you are talking about --as the heat still travel upwards,,, it would have been extremely hot there in that hole if the fires were enough hot to sustain steel damage as you say , please tell me that |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1215302 United States09/26/2011 01:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Looks to me like most of that jet fuel burned outside of the building and not inside; [link to media.photobucket.com] |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 506563 Canada09/26/2011 02:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 17648887  Australia11/16/2012 12:06 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Because there was no paper thin aluminum from an airplane to completely shred all the solid steel support columns in a symmetrical pattern leading to a symmetrical collapse. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 869449 And no kerosene which burns at a temperature thats flat out melting lead to turn those beams into a soft putty... besides..fires didnt burn as hot back in those days..but these modern fires are SO much hotter..technology ya know... |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 27805897 United States11/16/2012 12:09 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The 1975 Quoting: Swampgasser World Trade Center Fires.. 6 floors around 11th floor burned intensely for 3-4 hours heavy intence fires according to firemen, question is why didn it fall/pancake back then with all the heavy building on top of these lower floors ;) [link to bellaciao.org] [link to www.youtube.com] BECAUSE THE GOVERNMENT HAD NOT PLACED THE EXPLOSIVES IN THE BUILDING YET. DUH. |
