Trying to find God again

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Last Edited by OutofHer on 09/25/2011 07:46 PM

From what you wrote, I think you are trying to find a Path.

Once you have Seen, you cannot unchange and the things of this world fade more and more involuntarily. There is no off switch. The bridges behind you are burned.

Be ready to surrender absolutely everything. Not because it what you do on the Path to get to See. But it is what happens because you have Seen.

Yes, I have a very significant lesson. The bible is astro-mythology. Is is based on the sun and the stars. Jesus is myth. Along with Mary, Joseph, Moses, et al. Take up gardening. A far better use of your time.

That's a question you should be asking the Holy Spirit. For only He is to lead and guide you into all truth.

Well what i'm trying to find is the all important message of the old and new testaments. We're constantly bombarded with how important it is to live with the bible, but the tangible lessons which come out of it seem like standard common sense. Such as:

Be nice. Don't wish bad things or do bad things. Live without an ego and thank God for everything.

What am I missing? What is so deep and wonderful in these books that people devote their lives to reading them?? I must be missing something.

You have a wonderful opportunity, a gift from the heavens my friend.

If you can, seek no book, teacher or guide- nothing outer- it is all being manifest before you already. Go only inside.

Be quiet, silent and happy. Watch and witness with awareness and keep your heart open to God at every moment, at every breath.

i've studied the bible extensively. it's full of land mines. the enemy has written plenty in there. most of the new test. is by the enemy. revelation isn't as tainted tho.
avoid religion, that's for sure.
go straight to the source, the creator, God.
vaya con Dios
maybe God will give you a sign, that is the only way i know of that God speaks to people(it's quite frustrating)but when you get a sign, you will Know it. i hope you get one soon.

Good answer!

BEWARE:

All written religions are a system construct.

The truth is nature and goes best without letters.

HE?

What he's got a dick yeah?

"HE" as in masculine not sexual.

I'll leave you all alone, good luck with your search!

Well said.

If I am reading the Word on-line...I like to use...

www.biblegateway.com You can chose the translation you want...NIV, KJV, NKJV, etc. They also have a commentary to help you understand.

OP, there is a book (if you can still get a hold of it) by Dr. Gleason Archer. The name of the book is, "The Encyclopedia of Bible Difficulties" It has a lot of answers to a lot of questions that come up. One that I had that the Archer book answered...why are the genealogies different in Matthew and Luke...one follows the genealogy of Mary and one follows the Joseph (Jesus's stepfather).

It is the Presence some choose to call the Holy Spirit. Once with you in full measure, everything that STILL APPEARS AS CHAOS to everyone around you, and would have appeared as chaos to you, isn't any more.

Just keep reading OP. "All scripture is good for teaching." That's a quote from either Paul or Peter if I remember correctly. If you run into stuff you don't understand just tuck it away for another day. I've read the bible several times and am still either reminded about or learn a whole new aspect of what is being taught in a passage or book.

Scope is important. Some lessons are short and pop out at you in just a few verses. Some lessons are impossible to see without reading several chapters, an enitre book, and even the whole overarching plan of Gods creation from Genesis to Revelation.

A lot of the Old Testament is history and history can be an awesome teacher. Stories about judges, kings, kingdoms rising and falling, men of God, men of themselves, fallen angels with dark intent; all of it is interwoven. Through it all, God is teaching us about our place in His creation, His love, His righteous judgement, and plan for our lives today and into eternity. The New Testament is of coarse, God's plan for our redemption in Jesus. There are big lessons and little ones. Our arrogance is amazingly ignorant and our rebellion is beyond foolish.

Please be careful soliciting biblical info here though. There are some honest people here, but there are a whole lot of people who are either purposefully deceptive of just flat wrong about a great many things. Pray. Read. Get a good study bible. Find someone in person who knows the bible that you trust.

Last Edited by Resister on 09/25/2011 08:23 PM

Oh OK, I'll stay to play.

You're saying the "holy spirit" is a man.

Don't you think that's just a little bit weird? Do you honestly beleive a man created the universe, that's just.... well that's an incredibly unbelievable notion.

If their is a super conciousness bestowed upon the universe then I would not imagine it to be a man, it's as absurd to imagine it being an ant.

In fact I would go so far as to say ants are MORE godly than man, certainly when we view mans "achievments" of late.

I mean no disrespect with this, just curious to see how someone holds this notion up in their mind is all.

Good luck with the search!

It would be good if you found god, or the holy spirit man or whatever, if you find him report back to GLP, preferably with photo, or at least report the details like:

Does he have a beard?

How tall is he?

Does he have big hands?

What skin color is he?

Is he really good in all areas, or does he have areas of expertise, maybe maths?

What's his favourite food?

Does he have a libido?

Is his sperm compatible with earthly womens eggs?

Sorry to crash your thread, good luck with your search.

Given you +1 karma.

Well what i'm trying to find is the all important message of the old and new testaments. We're constantly bombarded with how important it is to live with the bible, but the tangible lessons which come out of it seem like standard common sense. Such as:

Be nice. Don't wish bad things or do bad things. Live without an ego and thank God for everything.

What am I missing? What is so deep and wonderful in these books that people devote their lives to reading them?? I must be missing something.


I don't get it either. Especially Bible study. What is there to sink one's teeth into in the Bible? Didn't we all learn it in Sunday School as kids, and now adults are sitting around in Bible studies going over and over the same old stuff? I don't get it at all.

That you have a Creator and everything is happening according to a Divine plan. When you see that, everything changes. You may then only pick up the Bible once a week, to have your eyes fall on simply one passage.

You have a Father in Heaven.

"In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth"
Genesis 1:1

"For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved."
JOhn 3:17

"Then Jesus said unto them, Yet a little while is the light with you. Walk while ye have the light, lest darkness come upon you: for he that walketh in darkness knoweth not whither he goeth. While ye have light, believe in the light, that ye may be the children of light. These things spake Jesus, and departed, and did hide himself from them"
John 12:35-36

Hi, I am the incarnation of old Gods like Atoum from the Egyptian religious theology. I am the demiurge of what is and what is not.
If you want to find Gods or devils, you should start looking inside chaos. Then you will open a channel with subtil beings of shadow and light which are the testimony of the alchemy of enlightment.

To start looking into chaos, start with this app here: [link to www.thecleverest.com]

Capture the small dots with the 2 lines and put the 2 attractors close by. If you look closely, you should see small faces appearing in the shadow of the small dots. You must train your Eye before you can actually see these...one way to train your eye is to look inside clouds or the SOHOs ultraviolet sun pictures.

Look at my avatar, it's a picture of myself wearing a pharaoh's crown taken inside the whole Sun. It looks like an illusion but is a very real occult science. This could be Lucifer rather than God, but at least being Lucifer is closer to god than being something else.

Let me tell you about strange attractor art. It's a form of divination art where your superconcious connects with the nature to reveal the 5th dimension of etheric beings. I've made up a thread on another forum and I invite you to consult this form of divination art: [link to forums.abrahadabra.com]

Keep up with synchronicities as they are a form of illumination. A warning though; if you follow my words, you may break the second commandement, at your own risk mhuahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
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Read the new testament first. Ask God daily to show u the way. Pls. Stay the course. God bless u and good luck.

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Monday, September 9,2011 (7/9/11)

For a study of the Heart of Bible. Please try this. Try three chapters in John then Go back and study 1 chapter in proverbs. there are enough of the proverbs to get you a good study in a month if you wanted to pace yourself. After John. Please go to Acts. and continue the three chapter study. Please To give Your Heart streanght in these times Go to the Psalms. When You are Hurting Go To The Words of Jesus Always. please do not lose Heart. Build it Friend. You are New anything is possible to You. Bless You in Your New Life.

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Good Luck I think the Lord says forgive your brother 7 times 70 so hopefully he gives folks that many chances to come back to him through the Christ. I hope so.

Read other holy books as well, e.g. Koran, ...

Regarding the Bible: One can learn much from failures and achievements of believing people in their effort to near the living God.

God Lord of the Old Testament is God whom Jesus was speaking about, His Father:

My Father, whom you (jewish people) claim as your God, is the one who glorifies me. Though you do not know him, I know him. If I said I did not, I would be a liar like you, but I do know him and keep his word. John 8:55

John 4:22,23 You (non-jewish people) worship you know not what: we know what we worship: for salvation is of the jewish people.


But the hour cometh, and now is, when the true worshippers shall worship the Father in spirit and in truth: for the Father seeketh such to worship him.


You are supposed to follow Jesus worshiping God in spirit and truth.

"He" masculine I didnt say "man" God has both masculine and feminine qualities.

sexual gender has nothing to do with it.

My english word to describe masculinity is the word "He"

To attatch sexual gender to God is absurd.

To highlight a quality of God in terms of masculinity I use a masculine word.

The Holy Spirit has no need of reproductive organs.

But does have a need of masculinity or femininity according to human relativity.

Ok. The bible is a integrated message system. It is a basic love letter written from God almighty to a race that has fallen from perfection and there bye has be separated from from him by sin/transgression etc. This God went to the trouble of establishing a lawful system (old testament) for an lawless race to keep order and stability until the appointed time that he himself would become flesh and die for the sins of his beloved (those that accept him) (New testament) You see OP, the new testament is hidden in the old testament. And the old testament is revealed in the new testament. Merely being good and all could never bring mankind back into the graces of God. But God had to establish a lawful system so mankind wouldn't go overboard on sin and have a system of order...otherwise mankind would do what was right in his own eyes. kinda like letting the kids make their own rules...your house would be a mess! This was kept until grace came. Even though mankind has fallen and sins remain on them... even the sacrifices of an animal couldn't remove the sin's of men. It had to be a life for a life. I couldn't die for you, because I am too also a sinner, so the sacrifice not only had to be human but also guiltless and sinless. Now I'm not talking about human sacrifice like a cult would do or something like that. I am talking about someone giving their life for the guilt of someone Else's faults. Or paying the penalty for someone Else's faults or ...sins. The thrust of the bible has always been the redeeming of mankind back to God who loves them enough to become the very thing he created and made, die for them and redeem those who would only believe and accept this back to himself. Only believe is all that is required of you...if you believe... it will show because he will come into you and his word (Jesus) will abide in you. The Word of Give is life and has the Power to resurrect you and bring you life eternal. The Father is the Creator, The word which comes from the Father is the Son or Jesus. (Jesus is the Word of God wrapped in human flesh)The Holy Spirit is the Effect of the Spoken Word of God. These three are ...one. So believing i the Words of God means that his Word has a place in your heart. If he is then in you, then there is resurrection power withing you for there are three that bear record in Heaven, the Father... The Son...And the Holy Spirit...these three....are one. It does not take Joining a religion, or your own works of trying to be good enough to reach God for it is again written that if you confess with your mouth and believe in your heart that Jesus died and rose again on the third day (for with the mouth one confesses what the heart believes unto salvation) then you will be saved. Remember, Jesus' greatest enemies were religious people, Bankers, politicians and Lawyers. So don't go getting religious...it's short lived...believe me. Only believe. Shalom and god bless.


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