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Getting Started with Meditation

 
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Getting Started with Meditation
After going through some rough patches in my life recently, I've decided to attempt to return to a more peaceful, retrumbant lifestyle.

I have heard that many fellow GLPers have had varying levels of success through meditation and I would love to try this myself.

Are there any suggested guides for beginners? I have to believe there's more to it than simply relaxing and controlling your breathing...

Any tips for a newbie?

Thanks!

hf
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find a real, live teacher
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YEah, finding a good teacher, who is well versed with oriental and Indian meditation really helps.

Or you could walk into a bookstore and pick up a good book, and practise practise.

Meditation is inborn. Its something you have inside you. The ability.
Just unravel it and be the meditation.

The most complex things in the world are very simple at heart.
(I'm male, mid-40's, and live and work in India as a designer. Writing is a passion of mine, as is painting. My avatar represents my protagonist against the Illuminati -a female warrior.)
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YEah, finding a good teacher, who is well versed with oriental and Indian meditation really helps.

Or you could walk into a bookstore and pick up a good book, and practise practise.

Meditation is inborn. Its something you have inside you. The ability.
Just unravel it and be the meditation.

The most complex things in the world are very simple at heart.
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I wouldn't even know where to begin looking for a teacher...

Do you have any specific books you recommend?

And also, is it possible to NOT be able to do it? If it is inborn inside us all, could I just not have it in me to begin with? Or is it something we all definitely have?
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YEah, finding a good teacher, who is well versed with oriental and Indian meditation really helps.

Or you could walk into a bookstore and pick up a good book, and practise practise.

Meditation is inborn. Its something you have inside you. The ability.
Just unravel it and be the meditation.

The most complex things in the world are very simple at heart.
 Quoting: abhie


I wouldn't even know where to begin looking for a teacher...

Do you have any specific books you recommend?

And also, is it possible to NOT be able to do it? If it is inborn inside us all, could I just not have it in me to begin with? Or is it something we all definitely have?
 Quoting: TurkeyTots


Your mind can help you meditate.
But a good guide can hasten the process.
Will post some good books here when I find them.

Good luck.
(I'm male, mid-40's, and live and work in India as a designer. Writing is a passion of mine, as is painting. My avatar represents my protagonist against the Illuminati -a female warrior.)
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Looking for some websites or books...

Thanks :D

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TM loved it all my life. Cost me a few hundred bucks when I was 16 and that was a lot of money, but never regretted it.
The future is uncertain and the end is always near.
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YEah, finding a good teacher, who is well versed with oriental and Indian meditation really helps.

Or you could walk into a bookstore and pick up a good book, and practise practise.

Meditation is inborn. Its something you have inside you. The ability.
Just unravel it and be the meditation.

The most complex things in the world are very simple at heart.
 Quoting: abhie


I wouldn't even know where to begin looking for a teacher...

Do you have any specific books you recommend?

And also, is it possible to NOT be able to do it? If it is inborn inside us all, could I just not have it in me to begin with? Or is it something we all definitely have?
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You are overthinking it. I did that too before I finally started to do it the way I wanted to do it. I just sit down in a quiet place and still my mind. I work at stopping my thoughts.
What the believer believes the prover proves. Robert Anton Wilson

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If you're having trouble sitting still long enough to get into a relaxed meditative state, try chanting a mantra at first

I'm a big fan of the Maha Mantra:

Hare Krsna Hare Krsna
Krsna Krsna Hare Hare
Hare Rama Hare Rama
Rama Rama Hare Hare

You don't have to be Hindu or believe in Krsna to benefit from this mantra
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Re: Getting Started with Meditation
After going through some rough patches in my life recently, I've decided to attempt to return to a more peaceful, retrumbant lifestyle.

I have heard that many fellow GLPers have had varying levels of success through meditation and I would love to try this myself.

Are there any suggested guides for beginners? I have to believe there's more to it than simply relaxing and controlling your breathing...

Any tips for a newbie?

Thanks!

hf
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Hey Tots- I found meditation a few years ago when I went on a 4 day retreat. Spent a lot of time in meditation and just slowing down. After the 3rd day I felt connected to EVERYTHING. There was a full moon that night and I will never forget how I felt when we walked outside and saw the moon and stars. I was a part of them, and they were a part of me. Crazy I know. Anyway- a couple of big tips- thoughts will continue to flow in and out, the key is to not attach yourself to any of them. Think of them as passing clouds- they come and they go. When you attach to any of them your mind is off and running, which defeats the purpose. It will happen, but when it does, just simply say to yourself, "thinking" and let it go. One more tip, and this one may be a little deep- but try and stay and focused on the "Watcher". Humans are the only species alive that can "watch" themselves. How is that possible? Who (or what) is doing this watching??? The "Watcher" is the key. Just "watch" your mind at work- endlessly racing from one useless thought to another. After a while it will wear itself out and peace will overcome you. Stick with it- the rewards are unmeasurable. Drop me a line anytime and let me know how it is going.
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So am I correct in assuming that there seems to be no "right" or "wrong" way to do it? That you just work on clearing your thoughts and the rest kind of comes as it will?
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So am I correct in assuming that there seems to be no "right" or "wrong" way to do it? That you just work on clearing your thoughts and the rest kind of comes as it will?
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What the believer believes the prover proves. Robert Anton Wilson

Nothing is plainer than that the sympathy with war is a juvenile and temporary status. Ralph Waldo Emerson
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So am I correct in assuming that there seems to be no "right" or "wrong" way to do it? That you just work on clearing your thoughts and the rest kind of comes as it will?
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There is no right or wrong way- but once you are no longer attached to your thoughts there is nothing left except peace. Your mind will fight giving up control but continue to soldier on. Your thoughts are not reality. Don't force it- remember, it's not about adding anything, everything is already there. It's a matter of stripping away all of the bullshit that keeps us from reality.
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Disclaimer:I am no guru , spiritual teacher or authority of any kind in this field.

That said in my humble experience I have been meditating seriously for about three years and I am just starting to make major breakthroughs. it is different for everyone it may take 3 yrs or 3 days but it will happen if your dedicated. For me qi-gong was very helpful. But over time I wanted something more current so I continued qi-gong along with newer modalities. After trying many different practices 2 people who's guided meditations have resignated with me. Inelia Benz and Christine Day. Both are very fringe in there claims but also very powerful in technique. as I said it is very individual.
Another bit of advice to look for is that a meditation encourages you to use your own light and energy source, if someone tells you to take in their light instead of using your own I see it as a more sophisticated version of organized religion. IE: you have to go through me to get to god. Always feel through your heart to find " your" own truth.
Also I've just recently realized the importance of clearing blocked energies. Accupuncture and again qi-gong are great for this. There are many other ways to locate and remove these blockages.
We live in an incredible time where many modalities are available to everyone. There is no one way, take your time and find one that works for you:)
Peace brother/sister.? Good luck!
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The key is to clear your mind of everything but one thing. Usually breathing, but can also be meditating on chakras.

Emptying the mind completely is the hard part. Keep practicing. Google and check these things on youtube.

Kundalini
Nostril Breathing exercises
Chakras
And just "meditation tips"

Good videos on youtube.
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So am I correct in assuming that there seems to be no "right" or "wrong" way to do it? That you just work on clearing your thoughts and the rest kind of comes as it will?
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This is correct. I find fully focusing on your breathing, and controlling that singular purpose is a great spot for "beginners" to start. Sometimes you will laugh at your inability to control random loose thoughts.

You will get better as you go. THen you can start focusing on activating your chakras, and feeling different energy sources in and around you. Meditating on those points.

IMO. I am no guru. The answers are out there.

Namaste.
nama
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Thanks all... I hope to follow in your footsteps...
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How to Meditate: A Guide to Self-Discovery
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Thank you so much, everyone who contributed so far... I'm still working on building my deep-mind library and would love for more videos, sites, or books...

Keep them coming!

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Last bump for the new day!

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1 learn how to blank your mind..
2 learn about your chakras and what they are n how they work.
3 learn how to center to universe and routh to the planet
4 do it everyday!!!
5 learn how to chat w your guardian angels
6 accomplish your mission..

to meditate.. as i see it.. is to relax body and loose it while your mind and intention works w the electric auric field in different ways..
you can meditate nice n even stuff or u can be more radical...
not even w drugs you get so higth!!!

namaste!

healing hands is a very good book to understand chakras
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If you would like to experience the benefits of deep relaxation & expanding your consciousness, then this free 20 minute meditation MP3 is perfect for you. Titled "Presence meditation With Music", this free MP3 is authored by David Ruben and is designed to help keep you in the present and more aware. Simply sit back, relax, and play this MP3 through your computer speakers.

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Meditation is a way to discover the true nature of yourself. Blessings to you! This is no easy task.

Getting the right soil and preparing the ground for the seeds of meditation to blossom is important, and you can waste years with dreams, chakras, psychic powers and other far out abilities.

The real heart of the matter of meditation is getting free of suffering, and to an indescribable place of peace. From here, the True Self shines and guides your life naturally, as it always has and will do.

Learn mindfulness and awareness, become more aware of the present moment. Meditation is not a mystical endeavor, although mystical moments will occur.

Keep the heart in the present moment, this alone will set you free.

Find the path that resonates with you the most, there are many. Read where ever you are drawn- the heart will know what to do. Once you find the path all of the fingers point to (books, methods, etc.) you have to DO it. Then you simply be it. And then you are done.

Meaning- more meditation, less reading.

Sound easy?

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Re: Getting Started with Meditation
After going through some rough patches in my life recently, I've decided to attempt to return to a more peaceful, retrumbant lifestyle.

I have heard that many fellow GLPers have had varying levels of success through meditation and I would love to try this myself.

Are there any suggested guides for beginners? I have to believe there's more to it than simply relaxing and controlling your breathing...

Any tips for a newbie?

Thanks!

hf
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Dear OP,

Trust that you will find what works for you. I found that the piecemeal method works, taking a little bit of this and a little bit of that from different practices. Here is what worked for me.

My meditation started a decade ago with the programs offered by the Academy of Remote Viewing and Remote Influencing (see [link to www.probablefuture.com] for information about RV). For years I listened to the tapes/CDs, but I never sat down to meditate. RV and RI is an active process, even though it requires Theta and Delta. It's not the same as meditation. My mind is too busy. It's hard to get to nothingness.

Three years ago I started to get into "normal meditation, but it was impossible to quiet my mind. I was researching Kundalini yoga and came across Sat Naam as a mantra. As you inhale, mentally say Sat, and on the exhale, say Naam. It means "there is one god" "Truth is my identity" "identity is my truth" "My true self" "There is one god whose name is truth" "Your name is the only truth" and a few other rearrangements of the same words.

When I focus on your breath and this simple mantra, I can clear your mind of noise. I do this in my yoga practice, too, especially when I am in pigeon and my hip feels like it is ripping away from the socket.

Eventually I can stop the mantra and stay in a relatively relaxed mental state.

Another good meditation is dance meditation. Kundalini meditation starts with 15 minutes of shaking your spine - knees bent, and arms shaking, then 15 minutes of free stye dancing in place, 15 minutes of sitting in silence, and 15 more minutes sitting/laying down. (There are variations of this format.)

When you are dancing to music without lyrics for 30 minutes, it's easy to get into a zen state. When you sit, you are aware of the energy flowing through your body. You have a deep connection to yourself and often the meditation part just flows. It's so beautiful.

Another type of meditation (the one that has produced the ultimate high for me) is Nada Brahma, which means the sound of God. It involves 15 minutes of humming, 15 minutes of moving your arms in almost motionless circles, 15 minutes of sitting, and 15 minutes of laying down to a soundtrack of Tibetan bells (save for the last 15 minutes of silence). This is usually done in a group, but you can always download a soundtrack and hum along.

There is dynamic meditation (done best in a group) in which you scream, jump, and shake yourself awake. It requires a lot of discipline. The reward is very nice, but it is physical;y exhausting while you are doing it.

You can sit in silence. You might wake up and spend twenty minutes opening your heart, listing everything that you are grateful for - your breath, your life, cotton candy, rainbows, whatever. You can sit in nature and talk to a tree and then allow the tree to talk back to you.

I find that lighting a small votive and some incense helps get me in the mood. I use a small rectangular pillow to elevate my spine helps my posture. Other times I prefer to lay on the floor.

Make it a routine. There will be days that you will not be able to let go. It will be an hour of pain. Go with it. Embrace it. Laugh at it. Eventually you will find what works best for you. Maybe there are some meditation groups in your area. Yoga studios and metaphysical shops often have contacts with these groups.

Group meditation offers a different dynamic. The key is having the right balance of energy in the group, but a strong group can pull everyone up.

You can find breathing exercises online. I admit that I struggled with this for years. I hated breath work in yoga. It seemed lie a waste of time. I just wanted to shut my eyes and relax into some magical place. Breathing requires focus. Having experienced mediation with several guides, I know the value of breath work. I admit that I am lazy about it, even though it would make my practice better.

Best of luck on your journey. The most important thing is to not worry about it! Don't expect to find enlightenment. Don't expect anything - just enjoy it, whatever happens. (And remember Sat Naam! It really helps!)

Sending you light and love.
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