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POST YOUR CHILD SUPPORT BULLSHIT STORIES...

 
Anonymous Coward (OP)
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I don't even get to see the kids I'm paying for.

Must be nice.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2050028


Alright, I'm having a hard time believing this now.

Do you live in seperate states? Sometimes that can make it more difficult and why it's always best to live near your kids, not only legal-wise but because kids want to see their daddies.

Is there an order of protection? Do you have a visitation schedule?

Sounds like you didn't have representation which is ALWAYS recommended. The courts are ravenous monsters, any court, not just family law. Civilians rarely do well without representation.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1554261


Nope she claimed I abandoned them after moving into a new home and not telling where she was located, the court granted the abandonment claim and they legally adopted my boys.

Changed their name and everything.

No order of protection, they have been legally adopted and there is literally nothing I can do.

Have spoken with attorneys, she works for the court system that this order originated from...best buddies with the entire city council, mayor, judges, cops, etc.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2050028


How are you paying child support when another man has adopted them?

That's impossible.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1554261


Wanna bet?

I'm on 5 years probation for TWO felony back child support charges. If I fail to pay, I go to prison for 2 years.

The order has even been terminated.
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Not even a debt enforceable by the state anymore.

Terminated orders become private debt.
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sorry bro...i know its really bad to be a man these days in USA and Canada...

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I'e got 4 kids by 4 different men and only one pays up. angryface
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I want to believe you but it doesn't add up.

If you're being for real, take the time and post your whole story here.

Then we can contact the media and let the whole world know what your ex has been up to and how it's damaging your children.

The courts here in WA are pretty good. Shit like that just does not happen here. Sounds like your state needs some serious changes inacted.

By the way, I'm pretty sure it's a federal law that once a child is adopted the bio parent who gave up their rights holds no responsibility toward that child ever again.
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I got away with $250 per month at the time of divorce, but my whore of an ex-wife left me for another guy, so I still think it's more than I should have agreed to.

I tried to get primary custody, but, as usual, the courts are heavily biased against fathers.
 Quoting: javadave


Instead of focusing on if your kids are being well cared for you're spending your time calling her a whore and being pissed off?

$250 is too much to pay for the kids you created?? Wow, listen to yourself. I can see why the judge didn't give you custody.

It's over. Accept it, be happy, spend time with your kids, and move on.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1554261


I spend plenty of money on him outside of child support. I provide the health insurance, dental insurance (currently paying $5000 for braces), clothing (he's 13, so that's not cheap), along with all miscellaneous expenses that come along.

So, fuck you very much.
mael

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09/26/2011 02:13 PM
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I think child support is a ripoff. Paying for something you have no access to is not a good deal.

Paying the other half for the upkeep of children should be voluntary and charity can help out.

I'm certainly not going to pay anything to an ex who treats the children in ways I don't approve.
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09/26/2011 02:13 PM
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My ex pays about $200 every three years (once a bench warrant is put out and he turns himself in for amnesty given by the county). That's right, I said $200 EVERY THREE YEARS (even though he is court ordered to pay MUCH more). Contempt is always dropped.
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09/26/2011 02:14 PM
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I want to believe you but it doesn't add up.

If you're being for real, take the time and post your whole story here.

Then we can contact the media and let the whole world know what your ex has been up to and how it's damaging your children.

The courts here in WA are pretty good. Shit like that just does not happen here. Sounds like your state needs some serious changes inacted.

By the way, I'm pretty sure it's a federal law that once a child is adopted the bio parent who gave up their rights holds no responsibility toward that child ever again.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1554261


That's the thing right there, she pushed for a secret indictment for non payment of child support literally 3 DAYS before she terminated the order.

Courts said you've already been charged with it, doesn't matter if the order has been terminated and they moved forward with 2 felony convictions.
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I want to believe you but it doesn't add up.

If you're being for real, take the time and post your whole story here.

Then we can contact the media and let the whole world know what your ex has been up to and how it's damaging your children.

The courts here in WA are pretty good. Shit like that just does not happen here. Sounds like your state needs some serious changes inacted.

By the way, I'm pretty sure it's a federal law that once a child is adopted the bio parent who gave up their rights holds no responsibility toward that child ever again.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1554261


I never signed shit to give up custody of my kids.

Got the news when I dragged the mother into court for contempt of the visitation order, (she refused to let me see them anymore against the court order) We were in front of a moderator when I heard the new last names of my two boys.
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09/26/2011 02:17 PM
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I got away with $250 per month at the time of divorce, but my whore of an ex-wife left me for another guy, so I still think it's more than I should have agreed to.

I tried to get primary custody, but, as usual, the courts are heavily biased against fathers.
 Quoting: javadave


Instead of focusing on if your kids are being well cared for you're spending your time calling her a whore and being pissed off?

$250 is too much to pay for the kids you created?? Wow, listen to yourself. I can see why the judge didn't give you custody.

It's over. Accept it, be happy, spend time with your kids, and move on.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1554261


I spend plenty of money on him outside of child support. I provide the health insurance, dental insurance (currently paying $5000 for braces), clothing (he's 13, so that's not cheap), along with all miscellaneous expenses that come along.

So, fuck you very much.
 Quoting: javadave


Really? Why aren't you and mom splitting the cost of braces? I'm sure you don't pay ALL the miscellaneous expenses that come along.

Dude, you need to raise a child on your own to understand just how far $250 gets you. LOL, not even the food would be covered by that. You're lucky.

Good on ya, though, for being a good dad. Sorry your girl left you for some other guy but you being pissed won't make it better. Be happy, you're free of taking care of your kid 24/7 and you get to swoop in and be the good guy and have fun with him or her during your visitation.

AND you get to be single and live your life the way you want.

hf
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09/26/2011 02:18 PM
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No money or possessions worth enough to sell to get an attorney.

I have lived in extreme poverty for the last 8 years because of this.

Sometimes even not eating so I could pay the support.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2050028

thats unfortunate :/

i dont think anyone should have to pay for children they are not given rights to visit with.

that makes noooooooo sense.
Anonymous Coward (OP)
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My ex pays about $200 every three years (once a bench warrant is put out and he turns himself in for amnesty given by the county). That's right, I said $200 EVERY THREE YEARS (even though he is court ordered to pay MUCH more). Contempt is always dropped.
 Quoting: Sigyn


In the same situation now with my new wife, her x is about 15,000 in arrears, he pays a couple hudred bucks every couple years and gets the contempt dropped with threats of next time you're going to jail only to be dropped again and the enforcement agency tells us hes in compliance. LOL
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My ex pays about $200 every three years (once a bench warrant is put out and he turns himself in for amnesty given by the county). That's right, I said $200 EVERY THREE YEARS (even though he is court ordered to pay MUCH more). Contempt is always dropped.
 Quoting: Sigyn


Rght, that's usually how it goes.

What state are you in?
Anonymous Coward (OP)
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09/26/2011 02:20 PM
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No money or possessions worth enough to sell to get an attorney.

I have lived in extreme poverty for the last 8 years because of this.

Sometimes even not eating so I could pay the support.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2050028

thats unfortunate :/

i dont think anyone should have to pay for children they are not given rights to visit with.

that makes noooooooo sense.
 Quoting: itai


It's beyond not making sense, it's fucking LUDICROUS.
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09/26/2011 02:21 PM
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I want to believe you but it doesn't add up.

If you're being for real, take the time and post your whole story here.

Then we can contact the media and let the whole world know what your ex has been up to and how it's damaging your children.

The courts here in WA are pretty good. Shit like that just does not happen here. Sounds like your state needs some serious changes inacted.

By the way, I'm pretty sure it's a federal law that once a child is adopted the bio parent who gave up their rights holds no responsibility toward that child ever again.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1554261


I never signed shit to give up custody of my kids.

Got the news when I dragged the mother into court for contempt of the visitation order, (she refused to let me see them anymore against the court order) We were in front of a moderator when I heard the new last names of my two boys.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2050028


You and your new wife should start a blog, contact all the local media, find an attorney who's fired up about this issue and take it on.

Sounds like you've been through it. Keep fighting, don't take this lying down.

hf
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My ex pays about $200 every three years (once a bench warrant is put out and he turns himself in for amnesty given by the county). That's right, I said $200 EVERY THREE YEARS (even though he is court ordered to pay MUCH more). Contempt is always dropped.
 Quoting: Sigyn


Rght, that's usually how it goes.

What state are you in?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1554261


It is a PA court order.
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I'e got 4 kids by 4 different men and only one pays up. angryface
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....4 kids, four different men. It takes two to tango!
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09/26/2011 02:27 PM
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I married a woman with 3 children. Father was ordered to pay child support but never did. When the little one was 12 1/2yo, we divorced (I had been around for about 10 years).

In order to not pay lawyers, I agreed to the following:

1. $1000 / month until the little one turned 18.
2. I would not claim the expenses on my taxes.
3. She would not claim the income on her taxes.

In other words, I paid over $66K from after tax income(if you gross up the principal and figure the deductions I could have taken it works out to over $100K) and took it up the ass for 5 1/2 years...BUT...

...I have a beautiful daughter who calls me "dad"...and that, my friends, is PRICELESS.
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I married a woman with 3 children. Father was ordered to pay child support but never did. When the little one was 12 1/2yo, we divorced (I had been around for about 10 years).

In order to not pay lawyers, I agreed to the following:

1. $1000 / month until the little one turned 18.
2. I would not claim the expenses on my taxes.
3. She would not claim the income on her taxes.

In other words, I paid over $66K from after tax income(if you gross up the principal and figure the deductions I could have taken it works out to over $100K) and took it up the ass for 5 1/2 years...BUT...

...I have a beautiful daughter who calls me "dad"...and that, my friends, is PRICELESS.
 Quoting: E. Henry Thripshaw


That's nothing, when I was thrown in jail for it (on a friday night, I was there for 3 days before I could see a judge) there was a guy there that had been convicted and was doing two YEARS for not paying child support...the fucked up thing is...THEY WEREN'T EVEN HIS CHILDREN!

No biological connection whatsoever.
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09/26/2011 02:31 PM
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my husband has full custody of his two children
deadbeat mom won't pay the $12 a week she
is ordered to pay

ten years and not a dime but nobody will do jack shit
because she's a woman

i could probably find $12 worth of change in the sofa
if i had to

people have really fucked up priorities these days
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...I have a beautiful daughter who calls me "dad"...and that, my friends, is RETARDED.
 Quoting: E. Henry Thripshaw


Shes not your daughter.....
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I married a woman with 3 children. Father was ordered to pay child support but never did. When the little one was 12 1/2yo, we divorced (I had been around for about 10 years).

In order to not pay lawyers, I agreed to the following:

1. $1000 / month until the little one turned 18.
2. I would not claim the expenses on my taxes.
3. She would not claim the income on her taxes.

In other words, I paid over $66K from after tax income(if you gross up the principal and figure the deductions I could have taken it works out to over $100K) and took it up the ass for 5 1/2 years...BUT...

...I have a beautiful daughter who calls me "dad"...and that, my friends, is PRICELESS.
 Quoting: E. Henry Thripshaw


That's nothing, when I was thrown in jail for it (on a friday night, I was there for 3 days before I could see a judge) there was a guy there that had been convicted and was doing two YEARS for not paying child support...the fucked up thing is...THEY WEREN'T EVEN HIS CHILDREN!

No biological connection whatsoever.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2050028


She told me to come pick them up I Had the car all packed with Christmas presents and was taking the boys down to my mothers for Christmas, she called the cops (who she knows personally...ALL OF THEM...and told them that I threatened her life. LIE

That was the beginning of the end.
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I don't have any children, but I have a friend that paid $72k in child support over 5 years, and then found out the child wasn't his. He was lucky enough to get the court to stop payments, but he probably isn't going to get his money back.
Fighting fatuousness, one AC at a time.
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Here in PA, the non-custodial parent has to pay a percentage of the day care. Well, my ex didn't work a real job, but said she did so I'd have to pay extra for the day care that she didn't actually use. Her friend gave my ex a hand-written note stating my ex paid her $50 a week for day care. No check stubs, no other evidence whatsoever, other than a note written in pencil. I knew she was going to do that so I even recorded a phone conversation where she admitted she was going to lie to the domestic relations. Anyways, I played the tape to them, but they still made me pay $30 extra per week for the day care.
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I told my sons father if he wanted me to not take him to court for child support, he needs to give me sole custody of my son.

yay for mistakes and dead beat parents.

my sons better off. and he has TONS of people who absolutely love him.

i dont ask for child support because i care more about my son growing up happy than taking money from some immature dead beat person that I trusted in a moment of weakness.
 Quoting: itai


Hear, hear, sister.

I knew I could raise my daughter with or without her bio dad. Seriously, work a legit job and take care of your business!

He wouldn't so I left and, knowing he wasn't going to change, I signed that paper asking only $199 a month, something anyone can afford.

Would he even pay that? No, of course not. Now he complains that he can't renew his license.

Whatev.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1554261


Well this person just isn't in my or my sons life anymore and I can rest easy and plan our future without worry. I can pay for my sons care without help and its worth it to me. I can move to fucking ireland if I want to.
but i do think its a different story when the father has a relationship with the child
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Be careful about that. My son's father left us when the baby was 3 months old, and my baby was a premie on top of that. I let the father see our child whenever he asked to, which was pretty much once a year, if that. Several years would go by with nil communication. I never got child support. When I needed someone to babysit I called him and had to pay him to do it because he was down on his luck so to speak (but had a girlfriend lol).

Years later, after he disappeared and reappeared several times in our lives (including moving out of state) I decided to move out of the state I was living in to be closer to my family as I had no family living in the state I was in. About 5 years after I moved the father contacted me again and a year after that came to visit - within two months of him visiting he filed in his state for custody. I was blown away. He accused me of kidnapping my own child. almost 60K later in legal fees on my end, we agreed to settle, I waived all the back child support that I was entitled to, agreed to move forward as my child was now almost a teen. Been nothing but problems trying to collect support.

He now has a set visitation but I can't ever get him to pay on time or the full amt. I am just giving you a bit of my story in an effort to say be careful, even though someone contributes nothing, the eyes of the judges don't always see it that way. Moving without the other parent's permission has an uncanny way of biting you in the *%&$. I want to move out of the state I am in now (Nevada) but know it will cause all sorts of problems again. I could not believe that a deadbeat father that abandoned his kid could have any rights, boy was I wrong.
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I married a woman with 3 children. Father was ordered to pay child support but never did. When the little one was 12 1/2yo, we divorced (I had been around for about 10 years).

In order to not pay lawyers, I agreed to the following:

1. $1000 / month until the little one turned 18.
2. I would not claim the expenses on my taxes.
3. She would not claim the income on her taxes.

In other words, I paid over $66K from after tax income(if you gross up the principal and figure the deductions I could have taken it works out to over $100K) and took it up the ass for 5 1/2 years...BUT...

...I have a beautiful daughter who calls me "dad"...and that, my friends, is PRICELESS.
 Quoting: E. Henry Thripshaw


Child support is not considered income. She wouldn't have been able to claim it anyway.
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...I have a beautiful daughter who calls me "dad"...and that, my friends, is RETARDED.
 Quoting: E. Henry Thripshaw


Shes not your daughter.....
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1550626


Try telling that to her...that is what she calls herself. I was chastised for including the "step-" until I quit.

It takes sperm to be a "father"...it takes something completely different to be a "dad". I never said I was her biological father...just her dad.

So...hopefully you are not so "intellectually challenged" that you cannot see the difference...in the mean time,

stfu
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I told my sons father if he wanted me to not take him to court for child support, he needs to give me sole custody of my son.

yay for mistakes and dead beat parents.

my sons better off. and he has TONS of people who absolutely love him.

i dont ask for child support because i care more about my son growing up happy than taking money from some immature dead beat person that I trusted in a moment of weakness.
 Quoting: itai


Hear, hear, sister.

I knew I could raise my daughter with or without her bio dad. Seriously, work a legit job and take care of your business!

He wouldn't so I left and, knowing he wasn't going to change, I signed that paper asking only $199 a month, something anyone can afford.

Would he even pay that? No, of course not. Now he complains that he can't renew his license.

Whatev.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1554261


Well this person just isn't in my or my sons life anymore and I can rest easy and plan our future without worry. I can pay for my sons care without help and its worth it to me. I can move to fucking ireland if I want to.
but i do think its a different story when the father has a relationship with the child
 Quoting: itai


Be careful about that. My son's father left us when the baby was 3 months old, and my baby was a premie on top of that. I let the father see our child whenever he asked to, which was pretty much once a year, if that. Several years would go by with nil communication. I never got child support. When I needed someone to babysit I called him and had to pay him to do it because he was down on his luck so to speak (but had a girlfriend lol).

Years later, after he disappeared and reappeared several times in our lives (including moving out of state) I decided to move out of the state I was living in to be closer to my family as I had no family living in the state I was in. About 5 years after I moved the father contacted me again and a year after that came to visit - within two months of him visiting he filed in his state for custody. I was blown away. He accused me of kidnapping my own child. almost 60K later in legal fees on my end, we agreed to settle, I waived all the back child support that I was entitled to, agreed to move forward as my child was now almost a teen. Been nothing but problems trying to collect support.

He now has a set visitation but I can't ever get him to pay on time or the full amt. I am just giving you a bit of my story in an effort to say be careful, even though someone contributes nothing, the eyes of the judges don't always see it that way. Moving without the other parent's permission has an uncanny way of biting you in the *%&$. I want to move out of the state I am in now (Nevada) but know it will cause all sorts of problems again. I could not believe that a deadbeat father that abandoned his kid could have any rights, boy was I wrong.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1001302


Wanted to add, but HEY, he and his girlfriend (who he just had a child with in Dec 2010) are going to Hawaii next month...wooo hooo!
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Re: POST YOUR CHILD SUPPORT BULLSHIT STORIES...
I married a woman with 3 children. Father was ordered to pay child support but never did. When the little one was 12 1/2yo, we divorced (I had been around for about 10 years).

In order to not pay lawyers, I agreed to the following:

1. $1000 / month until the little one turned 18.
2. I would not claim the expenses on my taxes.
3. She would not claim the income on her taxes.

In other words, I paid over $66K from after tax income(if you gross up the principal and figure the deductions I could have taken it works out to over $100K) and took it up the ass for 5 1/2 years...BUT...

...I have a beautiful daughter who calls me "dad"...and that, my friends, is PRICELESS.
 Quoting: E. Henry Thripshaw


Child support is not considered income. She wouldn't have been able to claim it anyway.
 Quoting: Sigyn


The payment order would have been "spousal support"...which IS taxable...

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