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What to expect when Nibiru makes its close approach to Earth?

 
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The last time Nibiru was in our area was 1648 BC, during the time of the Hebrew Exodus from Egypt. During that time there were incredible and very abnormal things going on in the entire world climate wise, geologically, volcanoes, earthquakes, death was all around and civilizations, e.g., the Minoan Civilization, was totally wiped out. Please check it out on Google.

Now, what did the Hebrews have to say about what was going on in their world?

Here's what:

Exodus 9:23
And Moses stretched forth his rod toward heaven: and the LORD sent thunder and hail, and the fire ran along upon the ground; and the LORD rained hail upon the land of Egypt.

Exodus 9:24
So there was hail, and fire mingled with the hail, very grievous, such as there was none like it in all the land of Egypt since it became a nation.

Psalm 18:12
At the brightness that was before him his thick clouds passed, hail stones and coals of fire.

Psalm 18:13
The LORD also thundered in the heavens, and the Highest gave his voice; hail stones and coals of fire.
Psalm 18:12-14 (in Context) Psalm 18 (Whole Chapter)
Psalm 105:32
He gave them hail for rain, and flaming fire in their land.

Psalm 148:8
Fire, and hail; snow, and vapours; stormy wind fulfilling his word:

Isaiah 30:30
And the LORD shall cause his glorious voice to be heard, and shall shew the lighting down of his arm, with the indignation of his anger, and with the flame of a devouring fire, with scattering, and tempest, and hailstones.

Ezekiel 38:22
And I will plead against him with pestilence and with blood; and I will rain upon him, and upon his bands, and upon the many people that are with him, an overflowing rain, and great hailstones, fire, and brimstone.

Revelation 8:7
The first angel sounded, and there followed hail and fire mingled with blood, and they were cast upon the earth: and the third part of trees was burnt up, and all green grass was burnt up.

It is coming again. Here's when:

Matthew 24:38
For as in the days that were before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark,

Luke 17:26
And as it was in the days of Noe, so shall it be also in the days of the Son of man.




Now, there were 10 plagues when the Hebrews left Egypt and these plagues involved the hail/fire but also darkness for 3 days; plagues of frogs, and other vermin; death of firstborn children; water turning poisonous to drink and red in color, etc.

This is all associated with the passage of Nibiru back then and will be again. Every 3660 years, this happens on Earth. Sometimes the Earth is in a position where there is catastrophic climate change on earth and there are great extinctions, e.g., during the end of the Pleistocene Ice Age approximate 12,500 years ago... sometimes the Earth is in a position where there are some major problems but not to the extent that there are massive extinction events, e.g., during the Exodus (1648 BC). I believe that this time, we're going to take a very very close approach and there will be massive extinction of almost all life on earth... this time, it is going to be intense.

Most everyone will not make it. I expect I will be killed as well. May God's will be done.

Revelation 9:18
By these three was the third part of men killed, by the fire, and by the smoke, and by the brimstone, which issued out of their mouths.

Revelation 16:8
And the fourth angel poured out his vial upon the sun; and power was given unto him to scorch men with fire.

Revelation 16:21
And there fell upon men a great hail out of heaven, every stone about the weight of a talent: and men blasphemed God because of the plague of the hail; for the plague thereof was exceeding great.

Revelation 8:11
And the name of the star is called Wormwood: and the third part of the waters became wormwood; and many men died of the waters, because they were made bitter.



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Interesting... does this information scare you or what? Do you see 'Bible' and then go, "Hell, no, I'm not reading that!" or what?

Truth is where it is, folks.
It is what it is.
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I think it is very interesting info, I didn't know that had happened as I'm sure others did not either.
One of the best theories/explanations I've read.
Of course the thought of an ele is scary but I'm trying to be at peace with it if it happens.
Nothing can be done but to finish the ride.
I don't mind seeing biblical references because I do find some truth in them and I do believe revelations is prophetic.
I don't like posts that use the bible to prove how wrong everyone else is that doesn't believe how the poster feels.
But you handled it well Ophf
I'm glad you posted this Op, it might help others in regards to the Nibiru situation.
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ok, so where is this NIBIRU now? there was supposed to be major doom today with elenin etc etc!!! We are still here..
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I had a dream about it...
it was terrifying.
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ok, so where is this NIBIRU now? there was supposed to be major doom today with elenin etc etc!!! We are still here..
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Nibiru is, I believe, called several things in the Bible. Some of the terms used are "the Red Dragon" and "the Destroyer."

There is likely evidence of where Nibiru is based on Revelation 12:

Revelation 12

1And there appeared a great wonder in heaven; a woman clothed with the sun, and the moon under her feet, and upon her head a crown of twelve stars:

2And she being with child cried, travailing in birth, and pained to be delivered.

3And there appeared another wonder in heaven; and behold a great red dragon, having seven heads and ten horns, and seven crowns upon his heads.

4And his tail drew the third part of the stars of heaven, and did cast them to the earth: and the dragon stood before the woman which was ready to be delivered, for to devour her child as soon as it was born.

5And she brought forth a man child, who was to rule all nations with a rod of iron: and her child was caught up unto God, and to his throne.

6And the woman fled into the wilderness, where she hath a place prepared of God, that they should feed her there a thousand two hundred and threescore days.

7And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels,

8And prevailed not; neither was their place found any more in heaven.

9And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.

10And I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, Now is come salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of his Christ: for the accuser of our brethren is cast down, which accused them before our God day and night.

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a woman clothed with the sun, and the moon under her feet, and upon her head a crown of twelve stars = probably Constellation Virgo in the Zodiac:

See here:



Now, after that, this:

" 3And there appeared another wonder in heaven; and behold a great red dragon, having seven heads and ten horns, and seven crowns upon his heads."

The "Great Red Dragon" in heaven...

This?


...

And what about "the destroyer?"

Exodus 12:23
For the LORD will pass through to smite the Egyptians; and when he seeth the blood upon the lintel, and on the two side posts, the LORD will pass over the door, and will not suffer the destroyer to come in unto your houses to smite you.

Jeremiah 4:7
The lion (Leo, Constellation?) is come up from his thicket, and the destroyer of the Gentiles is on his way; he is gone forth from his place to make thy land desolate; and thy cities shall be laid waste, without an inhabitant.

???

This sounds entirely like a very close encounter with a gigantic inbound gravity well, i.e., a star-like massive object that totally upsets Earth...

As you understand more of this, the entire Bible is a warning document of this...

In the 1950s, Immanuel Velikovsky wrote 3 books of interest on this topic and was thoroughly attacked by the astrophysicists of the time even to include Carl Sagan. I have read all of Immanuel Velikovsky's works -- he was RIGHT... IT SEEMS, though, it was not Venus that was the 'destroyer' but was Nibiru... also known as Marduk.

[link to www.marduk.org]

???

This is entirely creepy stuff here but I believe Nibiru has a 3660 year orbital periodicity; it was last here 1648 BC, and, if the periodicity of orbit is correct, it will be here in 2012.

Either I am completely nutty; the interpretations are delusional... or, if this is right stuff, we are going to see something like you've never seen before.

This will be the Ace-King-Queen-Jack-10 of Spades of Doom... a full royal straight flush. It will be the end for most humans and most species.

Extinction-level Event = ELEnin...

If you are not Christian; time to be one. NOW. No more playing around. The bus is going to be leaving the station soon and if you don't have a ticket it is hell to pay. Accept Christ as your savior. Do it now.

That's my view.

We are on for an incredible ride until we die...

to the Glory of the Living God, don't take the Mark of the Beast.

The 'doom' does not get any better than this. This *is* bold-red-letter-underlined-italicized DOOM now, folks.

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Velikovsky's books you must read:

[link to www.goodreads.com]

[link to www.goodreads.com]

[link to www.knowledge.co.uk]

Read these 3 books -- insert only Nibiru for Venus... and it is a direct hit.
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It is amusing that when I write here, not many respond. I guess people are overwhelmed, terrified, scared, unnerved, etc. by this information.

You'd think a doom site like this would be steeled up for it... but not so much.




Luke 21:25-27

King James Version (KJV)


25And there shall be signs in the sun, and in the moon, and in the stars; and upon the earth distress of nations, with perplexity; the sea and the waves roaring;

26Men's hearts failing them for fear, and for looking after those things which are coming on the earth: for the powers of heaven shall be shaken.

27And then shall they see the Son of man coming in a cloud with power and great glory.
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2 star rating... thanks for your vote of confidence...lol.
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Cliff's notes for you non-readers: Once Elenin passes, then on comes the Red Dragon itself, I think.

We shall see (it) or not... If we do, then it is not long until checkout.
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Note the author of this article!

[link to spaceobs.org]
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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1524578


Uh, knee-jerk much? I said nothing about Elenin being a problem... what's coming NEXT is the problem.
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Ok, I give up. It is apparently too difficult material for you all. Tsk, tsk.. and wagging my finger at you.

I guess you'll come back to this thread when the 'red dragon' shows itself from behind the sun?
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I for one think your story is spot on. Your also correct that when most people hear the word bible, that's the end of the conversation.

But, I have never heard it put together the way that you did and it rang true to me.

Thank you for explaining that. I may even pick up a bible and try to read it again, at least that one chapter where it talks of the doom/end, not sure what it's called.
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Thanks... yes, it rang true with me like a bolt out of the blue in the last while... I've been aware of scripture for years but not in this depth of integrated understanding... if the interpretation is right, this *is* what the Bible is about -- it is a Time Capsule like was hinted in the recent movie Knowing. The large story is the return of the destroyer and the regular periodic extinction of most life on the planet by the destroying astronomical intruder. This would explain what is going on at the Denver International Airport... they are prepping for this level of catastrophe there. They, the elite, are not going to tell us anything... they will 'go quietly out of site' some here and there while the system beings to unwind and, finally, all of the 'elite' will disappear... and chaos will govern and the intruder will come and wipe away a whole Earth Age of progress. After perhaps a century or at least some decades, they, the elite, will crawl out again and begin the whole thing over...

Is this their precious secret that they hide under layer upon layer of occult pyramidic levels of adept training?

Is there a predictable 3660 year ELE that is as regular as a clock that they have known of for ages in their mystery schools and hidden from us?

Do they take our technological advances underground with them and then, in the New Age, after there begins to be some feral humans repopulating the planet again, use that technology to pretend to be Gods to these feral survivors who have lost all awareness of a previous age?

OMG...

I think this could be the secret...

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October the 11th is the date you are seeking.
Remember, past , present, and future are but the expanded NOW. There is no real TIME.

This date has been, is and will be.
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bump for the early morning crew...
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Great post .....

Even if I was to be zapped like a bug zapped by the bug zapper ..........I will still take over any other of a better way to life and live..

I will continue on to go into it zapped all the way does not matter to me...I am going on into the way I choose to go which is what ever ...His way for me is like it or not..


He did instill the blessing of having a insane part in my flesh brain that is a spirit of kamikaze....

And it is enough in there for me to do it anyway....and I think that was my blessing....doing that which is not what my flesh and flesh brain wants to do....my very weakness is turned to my very own blessing in this weakness I had at birth..


Wanting what my flesh wants not has been a wonderful instillation of courage to dive into the black hole and care not other than bombs away it is the way he said to go so bombs away...

In I go to follow the lamb where ever He goes even if it is going universal postal.

Even going that way on me on me that is fine I will go through it kamikaze style every step of the hideous way knowing it is for the better what ever He does it is for the better.

Of all those who love Him..and follow Him even if it is into death....we are not to be fearful.


Even if it kills me in the flesh or consumes my flesh so be it...I will not die fearful and of no courage in my own death I have an appointment already for when I came out birthed into this world it was certainly there with the birth..I am not ashamed to die and die it in Him is gain not loss it is life instead...

And if he wants to wipe me off or up or out by a whirlwind of fire so be it...that is His call not mine.


To the world this ideology is definitely counted as foolishness....because it is absurd utterly against the laws of sciences and all other things we know in the men of flesh world here...


That is why ..it is the fools paradise counted by this world as foolishness that the fools live in and by..and I love it soak it up and stay in it.....it is fantastic even in the most hideous of environments it is a fantastic oasis strive to stay in.....actually I think I got cast into it but what the heck I do not want to leave it...because I love it here..

What can any man do to this truly what can anything or man do with such a separation for the worlds reality it projects and crushes down on all men.....

Except the foolish in Christ...men fear this foolishness of mind because it strips their own mind from ruling them into their own higher ways and places and gains...

They do not want their own brain to turn on them and cast their own flesh down as a total loss and of no value at all to be kept but rejected as only a body of death carcass.


Nothing I say nothing can be done to or with these..they are to far gone and can not be brought back unto the shackles of temporal binding bounds..their brains are not apart of this reality called world.. Planet Earth Our World.

Yes yes yes it is getting close to the time to fire things up out there shake and rake and bake and then explode.

So who will stop it when it does?

No one....

All will fail who try...

To try and stop what God does they can not reach His office or home to bind Him and cast Him in prison nor can they Kill Him...they can not even see Him even in their own ways they can not see Him there..hidden from their eyes..

They are doomed to attempt those ideas..

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Previous post by a professional thread-spamming thread killer?

bump to those awake with a brain and some ersatz sanity...
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Apparently a waste of time with this epiphany.

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Thank you for your courage and for warning the public. I have always thought that it's not Elenin that's the problem, but what's behind Elenin. Elenin is the wake up call and comets, as far as I know, are harbingers of doom for planet Earth.
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The hopi prophecy says that we will be able to percieve the fifth dimension when we are in the magnetic shield of nibiru.
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The hopi prophecy says that we will be able to percieve the fifth dimension when we are in the magnetic shield of nibiru.
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Do you have the quote for that?

Maybe this is how we can escape 3rd dimension?
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Luke 21:25-27

King James Version (KJV)


25And there shall be signs in the sun, and in the moon, and in the stars; and upon the earth distress of nations, with perplexity; the sea and the waves roaring;

26Men's hearts failing them for fear, and for looking after those things which are coming on the earth: for the powers of heaven shall be shaken.

27And then shall they see the Son of man coming in a cloud with power and great glory.


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Nahum 1:3
The LORD is slow to anger, and great in power, and will not at all acquit the wicked: the LORD hath his way in the whirlwind and in the storm, and the clouds are the dust of his feet.

Matthew 24:30
And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.

Matthew 26:64
Jesus saith unto him, Thou hast said: nevertheless I say unto you, Hereafter shall ye see the Son of man sitting on the right hand of power, and coming in the clouds of heaven.

Mark 13:26
And then shall they see the Son of man coming in the clouds with great power and glory.

Mark 14:62
And Jesus said, I am: and ye shall see the Son of man sitting on the right hand of power, and coming in the clouds of heaven.

Luke 21:27
And then shall they see the Son of man coming in a cloud with power and great glory.

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bump because the "red dragon" is soon to show itself:

September 30, begins?:


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bump because the "red dragon" is soon to show itself:

September 30, begins?:

 Quoting: Stars-and-Bars

7 heads equals seven orbiting planets?

The rebel star, the one cast down from on high, bringing hell to earth, sweeping a third of the stars out of the heavens with it's tail.

All astrophysical descriptions given to "Satan" in Revelation



The child of the woman is also enlightened humanity being birthed here on Gaia right at the time of the return of Nemesis, the sun's binary twin, the Red Dragon, the Destroyer, etc....

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The last time Nibiru was in our area was 1648 BC, during the time of the Hebrew Exodus from Egypt. During that time there were incredible and very abnormal things going on in the entire world climate wise, geologically, volcanoes, earthquakes, death was all around and civilizations, e.g., the Minoan Civilization, was totally wiped out. Please check it out on Google.

Now, what did the Hebrews have to say about what was going on in their world?

Here's what:

Exodus 9:23
And Moses stretched forth his rod toward heaven: and the LORD sent thunder and hail, and the fire ran along upon the ground; and the LORD rained hail upon the land of Egypt.

Exodus 9:24
So there was hail, and fire mingled with the hail, very grievous, such as there was none like it in all the land of Egypt since it became a nation.

Psalm 18:12
At the brightness that was before him his thick clouds passed, hail stones and coals of fire.

Psalm 18:13
The LORD also thundered in the heavens, and the Highest gave his voice; hail stones and coals of fire.
Psalm 18:12-14 (in Context) Psalm 18 (Whole Chapter)
Psalm 105:32
He gave them hail for rain, and flaming fire in their land.

Psalm 148:8
Fire, and hail; snow, and vapours; stormy wind fulfilling his word:

Isaiah 30:30
And the LORD shall cause his glorious voice to be heard, and shall shew the lighting down of his arm, with the indignation of his anger, and with the flame of a devouring fire, with scattering, and tempest, and hailstones.

Ezekiel 38:22
And I will plead against him with pestilence and with blood; and I will rain upon him, and upon his bands, and upon the many people that are with him, an overflowing rain, and great hailstones, fire, and brimstone.

Revelation 8:7
The first angel sounded, and there followed hail and fire mingled with blood, and they were cast upon the earth: and the third part of trees was burnt up, and all green grass was burnt up.

It is coming again. Here's when:

Matthew 24:38
For as in the days that were before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark,

Luke 17:26
And as it was in the days of Noe, so shall it be also in the days of the Son of man.




Now, there were 10 plagues when the Hebrews left Egypt and these plagues involved the hail/fire but also darkness for 3 days; plagues of frogs, and other vermin; death of firstborn children; water turning poisonous to drink and red in color, etc.

This is all associated with the passage of Nibiru back then and will be again. Every 3660 years, this happens on Earth. Sometimes the Earth is in a position where there is catastrophic climate change on earth and there are great extinctions, e.g., during the end of the Pleistocene Ice Age approximate 12,500 years ago... sometimes the Earth is in a position where there are some major problems but not to the extent that there are massive extinction events, e.g., during the Exodus (1648 BC). I believe that this time, we're going to take a very very close approach and there will be massive extinction of almost all life on earth... this time, it is going to be intense.

Most everyone will not make it. I expect I will be killed as well. May God's will be done.

Revelation 9:18
By these three was the third part of men killed, by the fire, and by the smoke, and by the brimstone, which issued out of their mouths.

Revelation 16:8
And the fourth angel poured out his vial upon the sun; and power was given unto him to scorch men with fire.

Revelation 16:21
And there fell upon men a great hail out of heaven, every stone about the weight of a talent: and men blasphemed God because of the plague of the hail; for the plague thereof was exceeding great.

Revelation 8:11
And the name of the star is called Wormwood: and the third part of the waters became wormwood; and many men died of the waters, because they were made bitter.



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Lets get technical:
Isaiah 13:13 Therefore I will shake the heavens, and the earth shall remove out of her place, in the wrath of the LORD of hosts, and in the day of his fierce anger.

Acts 2:20 The sun shall be turned into darkness, and the moon into blood, before that great and notable day of the Lord come:

Luke 21:25 And there shall be signs in the sun, and in the moon, and in the stars; and upon the earth distress of nations, with perplexity; the sea and the waves roaring;

Luke 21:26 Men’s hearts afailing them for fear, and for looking after those things which are coming on the earth: for the powers of heaven shall be shaken.
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Re: What to expect when Nibiru makes its close approach to Earth?
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Niburu is called wormwood in the new testament, but it is also referred to as the destroyer in the book of Jerimia.





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