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Have a marijuana prescription?.......NO Second Amendment For YOU!!!

 
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ATF: It's illegal for medical marijuana users to own, buy guns.

Federal firearms regulators are telling gun shops it’s illegal for someone who uses marijuana to own or buy guns or ammunition, regardless of whether states have passed laws allowing patients to use the drug for medicinal purposes.

In an open letter to all federal firearms licensees posted last week, Arthur Herbert, the assistant director of enforcement programs and services for the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives said his office has received “a number of inquiries” about whether medical marijuana patients can own or buy guns and ammo in medical-marijuana states.

Federal law says marijuana is classified as a Schedule 1 drug similar to heroin, in spite of 16 states, including California,having passed making the drug legal for medical use. The federal government doesn’t recognize marijuana as a medicine, Herbert says.

“Therefore anyone who uses or is addicted to marijuana, regardless of whether his or her state has passed legislation authorizing marijuana use for medicinal purposes, is an unlawful user of or addicted to a controlled substance and is prohibited by federal law from possessing firearms or ammunition,” Herbert writes.

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I would enjoy seeing MSNBC or FOX run this story...
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I would enjoy seeing MSNBC or FOX run this story...
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pin this. this is ludicrous.
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Was an issue here in OR, not buying but concealed carry. Thankfully the courts came out right for once.

The Oregon Supreme Court ruled this morning that Oregon sheriffs have no grounds to deny concealed handgun licenses to the state's 39,774 medical marijuana cardholders -- solely because they use pot.

[link to www.oregonlive.com]
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You can lose you'r rights if you are in a domestic violence
dispute also in some states . but selling guns to mexico is ok
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ATF is at my door now
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That's effed up.
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You can lose you'r rights if you are in a domestic violence
dispute also in some states . but selling guns to mexico is ok
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Now you're catching on... be a good slave and follow the rules
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My rights do not come from the state and they cannot be placed into remission by the state.
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I don't know which is more absurd: the ruling that lawful medical marijuana use can disqualify you from your constitutional rights to carry a firearm or that they suggested one could be addicted to marijuana.

Its terribly disturbing how misinformed these policies are.

How would the authors of the constitution feel about this? In case you didn't know, virtually all of the USA's founding fathers grew and used hemp.
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You can lose you'r rights if you are in a domestic violence
dispute also in some states . but selling guns to mexico is ok
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Right...shouldn't the ATF be concerned that they gave away thousands of deadly assault weapons to the mexican cartels like they were christmas presents (see: operation fast and the furious)?

what are they actually trying to accomplish here? what's more destabilizing - allowing lawful nonviolent users of hemp to carry a firearm legally, or GIVING ASSAULT RIFLES TO THE MEXICAN CARTELS FOR FREE?

Come on ATF, get your head out of your ass.
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Think about...if you really get the herb, you gonna wanna shoot anybody?

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So what? If you're registering your guns you're being stupid anyway.
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AND where does it say that in the constitution.....under the part that list exceptions to the law????????
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Have someone els buy the gun for you. simple.
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I don't know which is more absurd: the ruling that lawful medical marijuana use can disqualify you from your constitutional rights to carry a firearm or that they suggested one could be addicted to marijuana.

Its terribly disturbing how misinformed these policies are.

How would the authors of the constitution feel about this? In case you didn't know, virtually all of the USA's founding fathers grew and used hemp.
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This^^ Hemp is one of the most useful products around. There is no other plant that can be used for so much. Sadly it is grown to easy, and the marijuana market could never fully be manipulated by TPTB and corporations, therefore, it is illegal. Started with paper companies.

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Just because you have a prescription, that does not mean that you are using it. The form asks the question in a general way; answer in kind.
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Have someone els buy the gun for you. simple.
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Yea that is the easy part, if they bust you with a gun, and you have marijuana in the house, it is still a federal gun offense.
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ATF: It's illegal for medical marijuana users to own, buy guns.

Federal firearms regulators are telling gun shops it’s illegal for someone who uses marijuana to own or buy guns or ammunition, regardless of whether states have passed laws allowing patients to use the drug for medicinal purposes.

In an open letter to all federal firearms licensees posted last week, Arthur Herbert, the assistant director of enforcement programs and services for the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives said his office has received “a number of inquiries” about whether medical marijuana patients can own or buy guns and ammo in medical-marijuana states.

Federal law says marijuana is classified as a Schedule 1 drug similar to heroin, in spite of 16 states, including California,having passed making the drug legal for medical use. The federal government doesn’t recognize marijuana as a medicine, Herbert says.

“Therefore anyone who uses or is addicted to marijuana, regardless of whether his or her state has passed legislation authorizing marijuana use for medicinal purposes, is an unlawful user of or addicted to a controlled substance and is prohibited by federal law from possessing firearms or ammunition,” Herbert writes.

More: [link to www.redding.com]
 Quoting: DERAIL


That's why one in California does not get their medical card through the issuers who add you to the federal list of patience. [link to www.medicann.com] keeps your doctors prescription on file and allows cops to call a 24-hour hotline to verify; they do not list you on the FED list.

Last Edited by justanotherguy on 09/28/2011 06:49 PM
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using a firearm while on saliva is still legal boyyss wooot!!
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Have someone els buy the gun for you. simple.
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Yea that is the easy part, if they bust you with a gun, and you have marijuana in the house, it is still a federal gun offense.
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damned
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using a firearm while on saliva is still legal boyyss wooot!!
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Oh shit, i just swallowed some saliva... Will I be ok?
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I don't know which is more absurd: the ruling that lawful medical marijuana use can disqualify you from your constitutional rights to carry a firearm or that they suggested one could be addicted to marijuana.

Its terribly disturbing how misinformed these policies are.

How would the authors of the constitution feel about this? In case you didn't know, virtually all of the USA's founding fathers grew and used hemp.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1639333


This^^ Hemp is one of the most useful products around. There is no other plant that can be used for so much. Sadly it is grown to easy, and the marijuana market could never fully be manipulated by TPTB and corporations, therefore, it is illegal. Started with paper companies.

:corp:
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love your sign
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using a firearm while on saliva is still legal boyyss wooot!!
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lmao
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the irony is that in some states you can't buy liquor without a gun.
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So what? If you're registering your guns you're being stupid anyway.
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This..
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ATF: It's illegal for medical marijuana users to own, buy guns.

Federal firearms regulators are telling gun shops it’s illegal for someone who uses marijuana to own or buy guns or ammunition, regardless of whether states have passed laws allowing patients to use the drug for medicinal purposes.

In an open letter to all federal firearms licensees posted last week, Arthur Herbert, the assistant director of enforcement programs and services for the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives said his office has received “a number of inquiries” about whether medical marijuana patients can own or buy guns and ammo in medical-marijuana states.

Federal law says marijuana is classified as a Schedule 1 drug similar to heroin, in spite of 16 states, including California,having passed making the drug legal for medical use. The federal government doesn’t recognize marijuana as a medicine, Herbert says.

“Therefore anyone who uses or is addicted to marijuana, regardless of whether his or her state has passed legislation authorizing marijuana use for medicinal purposes, is an unlawful user of or addicted to a controlled substance and is prohibited by federal law from possessing firearms or ammunition,” Herbert writes.

More: [link to www.redding.com]
 Quoting: DERAIL


This is total bullshit really. You can take all the dangerous pharmaceuticals that actually cause propel to twist off and kill 30 or 40 people over and over again, but if you use a harmless drug that is known not to be associated with violent behaviors, it's a disqualification to have a gun. They go on to justify it saying it is because the user of medical marijuana is an unlawful user or addict , and that cannot be possible since their states legalized its use.

It is bullshit that the federal government continues to play this game, the states have the right to decide issues such as who is and who is not allowed to purchase a gun, the second amendment takes the federal government out of any such business of gun regulation. ALL federal gun laws are UNCONSTITUTIONAL, and to be ignored by lawful owners in their own states. And most states do not reciprocate with Feds on gun issues when an arrest is made anyway. It's none of their fuckigng business.

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