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Have a marijuana prescription?.......NO Second Amendment For YOU!!!

 
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Have someone els buy the gun for you. simple.
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What you are suggesting for others to do is a federal crime.....

Are you BATF by chance? I know how you guys like to produce criminals that wouldn't otherwise be without your efforts.
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ATF: It's illegal for medical marijuana users to own, buy guns.

Federal firearms regulators are telling gun shops it’s illegal for someone who uses marijuana to own or buy guns or ammunition, regardless of whether states have passed laws allowing patients to use the drug for medicinal purposes.

In an open letter to all federal firearms licensees posted last week, Arthur Herbert, the assistant director of enforcement programs and services for the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives said his office has received “a number of inquiries” about whether medical marijuana patients can own or buy guns and ammo in medical-marijuana states.

Federal law says marijuana is classified as a Schedule 1 drug similar to heroin, in spite of 16 states, including California,having passed making the drug legal for medical use. The federal government doesn’t recognize marijuana as a medicine, Herbert says.

“Therefore anyone who uses or is addicted to marijuana, regardless of whether his or her state has passed legislation authorizing marijuana use for medicinal purposes, is an unlawful user of or addicted to a controlled substance and is prohibited by federal law from possessing firearms or ammunition,” Herbert writes.

More: [link to www.redding.com]
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People who are stoned should not handle guns.

I am 100% PRO Second Amendment. But not for people on mind altering drugs. People who are stoned should not drive, either.

Lives are at risk.
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ATF: It's illegal for medical marijuana users to own, buy guns.

Federal firearms regulators are telling gun shops it’s illegal for someone who uses marijuana to own or buy guns or ammunition, regardless of whether states have passed laws allowing patients to use the drug for medicinal purposes.

In an open letter to all federal firearms licensees posted last week, Arthur Herbert, the assistant director of enforcement programs and services for the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives said his office has received “a number of inquiries” about whether medical marijuana patients can own or buy guns and ammo in medical-marijuana states.

Federal law says marijuana is classified as a Schedule 1 drug similar to heroin, in spite of 16 states, including California,having passed making the drug legal for medical use. The federal government doesn’t recognize marijuana as a medicine, Herbert says.

“Therefore anyone who uses or is addicted to marijuana, regardless of whether his or her state has passed legislation authorizing marijuana use for medicinal purposes, is an unlawful user of or addicted to a controlled substance and is prohibited by federal law from possessing firearms or ammunition,” Herbert writes.

More: [link to www.redding.com]
 Quoting: DERAIL


hipa laws cover your ass...
feds dont have a legal way to look at your scripts...
so they dont know...
they can look, but not prosecute...
notice the article doesnt quote the law your breaking..
what would be the charge....
lso remember,, move it into district state court...
unless your in federal court ...
the federal law wont apply...
the charges are vague..
not it says , he says....
rememeber,,,,
this is just bluff....
they have no ground to stand on....
this will be fought for the next 20 to 30 years...
if yoyu carry a weapon, dont flaunt your doobies or smoking...
very little will come of this unless you blatantly put your stuff up thier nose...
be smart...
i wouldnt worry one bit...
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Think about...if you really get the herb, you gonna wanna shoot anybody?

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Not unless they tryin' to jack yo herb.
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the irony is that in some states you can't buy liquor without a gun.
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But in every state you can get you some liquor with a gun
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ATF: It's illegal for medical marijuana users to own, buy guns.

Federal firearms regulators are telling gun shops it’s illegal for someone who uses marijuana to own or buy guns or ammunition, regardless of whether states have passed laws allowing patients to use the drug for medicinal purposes.

In an open letter to all federal firearms licensees posted last week, Arthur Herbert, the assistant director of enforcement programs and services for the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives said his office has received “a number of inquiries” about whether medical marijuana patients can own or buy guns and ammo in medical-marijuana states.

Federal law says marijuana is classified as a Schedule 1 drug similar to heroin, in spite of 16 states, including California,having passed making the drug legal for medical use. The federal government doesn’t recognize marijuana as a medicine, Herbert says.

“Therefore anyone who uses or is addicted to marijuana, regardless of whether his or her state has passed legislation authorizing marijuana use for medicinal purposes, is an unlawful user of or addicted to a controlled substance and is prohibited by federal law from possessing firearms or ammunition,” Herbert writes.

More: [link to www.redding.com]
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People who are stoned should not handle guns.

I am 100% PRO Second Amendment. But not for people on mind altering drugs. People who are stoned should not drive, either.

Lives are at risk.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2251672


Seriously..think about your statement. Why do we own guns?
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Think about...if you really get the herb, you gonna wanna shoot anybody?

bonghit
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ATF: It's illegal for medical marijuana users to own, buy guns.

Federal firearms regulators are telling gun shops it’s illegal for someone who uses marijuana to own or buy guns or ammunition, regardless of whether states have passed laws allowing patients to use the drug for medicinal purposes.

In an open letter to all federal firearms licensees posted last week, Arthur Herbert, the assistant director of enforcement programs and services for the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives said his office has received “a number of inquiries” about whether medical marijuana patients can own or buy guns and ammo in medical-marijuana states.

Federal law says marijuana is classified as a Schedule 1 drug similar to heroin, in spite of 16 states, including California,having passed making the drug legal for medical use. The federal government doesn’t recognize marijuana as a medicine, Herbert says.

“Therefore anyone who uses or is addicted to marijuana, regardless of whether his or her state has passed legislation authorizing marijuana use for medicinal purposes, is an unlawful user of or addicted to a controlled substance and is prohibited by federal law from possessing firearms or ammunition,” Herbert writes.

More: [link to www.redding.com]
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gradeabullshit

That's illegal as hell to restrict a RIGHT.

Fuck them and their mother.
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Have someone els buy the gun for you. simple.
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What you are suggesting for others to do is a federal crime.....

Are you BATF by chance? I know how you guys like to produce criminals that wouldn't otherwise be without your efforts.
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ATF: It's illegal for medical marijuana users to own, buy guns.

Federal firearms regulators are telling gun shops it’s illegal for someone who uses marijuana to own or buy guns or ammunition, regardless of whether states have passed laws allowing patients to use the drug for medicinal purposes.

In an open letter to all federal firearms licensees posted last week, Arthur Herbert, the assistant director of enforcement programs and services for the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives said his office has received “a number of inquiries” about whether medical marijuana patients can own or buy guns and ammo in medical-marijuana states.

Federal law says marijuana is classified as a Schedule 1 drug similar to heroin, in spite of 16 states, including California,having passed making the drug legal for medical use. The federal government doesn’t recognize marijuana as a medicine, Herbert says.

“Therefore anyone who uses or is addicted to marijuana, regardless of whether his or her state has passed legislation authorizing marijuana use for medicinal purposes, is an unlawful user of or addicted to a controlled substance and is prohibited by federal law from possessing firearms or ammunition,” Herbert writes.

More: [link to www.redding.com]
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People who are stoned should not handle guns.

I am 100% PRO Second Amendment. But not for people on mind altering drugs. People who are stoned should not drive, either.

Lives are at risk.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2251672


ATF: It's illegal for medical marijuana users to own, buy guns.

Federal firearms regulators are telling gun shops it’s illegal for someone who uses marijuana to own or buy guns or ammunition, regardless of whether states have passed laws allowing patients to use the drug for medicinal purposes.

In an open letter to all federal firearms licensees posted last week, Arthur Herbert, the assistant director of enforcement programs and services for the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives said his office has received “a number of inquiries” about whether medical marijuana patients can own or buy guns and ammo in medical-marijuana states.

Federal law says marijuana is classified as a Schedule 1 drug similar to heroin, in spite of 16 states, including California,having passed making the drug legal for medical use. The federal government doesn’t recognize marijuana as a medicine, Herbert says.

“Therefore anyone who uses or is addicted to marijuana, regardless of whether his or her state has passed legislation authorizing marijuana use for medicinal purposes, is an unlawful user of or addicted to a controlled substance and is prohibited by federal law from possessing firearms or ammunition,” Herbert writes.

More: [link to www.redding.com]
 Quoting: DERAIL






People who are stoned should not handle guns.

I am 100% PRO Second Amendment. But not for people on mind altering drugs. People who are stoned should not drive, either.

Lives are at risk.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2251672


How many times have you smoked pot? Sounds like none to a few. The mind altering effects of pot are less than the of alcohol. And as someone else said, what about all the much more potent pharmaceutical drugs people take? Oh... I see... If they told people they could not buy guns if you were using a pharmaceutical drug, the drug companies would get upset.
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ALL OF THESE ABC AGENCIES, ARE GOING OVERBOARD, THEY THINK THEY ARE GODS THAT CAN DO WHAT EVER THEY WANT ,ABOVE THE LAWS. THERE IS 2100 OF THESE AGENCIES THAT EMPLOY OVER 20 MILLION EMPLOYEES, ON THE GOVERNMENTS PAYROLL. ID SAY ABOUT 2000 OF THEM NEED TO BE CUT FROM THE BUDGET, F--CK THEM ALL. GIVE THE COUNTRY BACK TO THE PEOPLE, LET US HAVE OUR FREEDOM BACK. ADULTS IN EVERY STATE SHOULD BE ABLE TO SMOKE HERB IN THE PRIVACY OF THEIR OWN HOMES, WITHOUT THE THREAT OF THESE SCUMBAGS BREAKING DOWN THEIR DOORS. DRESSED LIKE STORMTROOPERS, JUST LIKE THEY ARE ALLOWED TO DRINK,CHEW AND SMOKE TABACCO, AND POP THEIR PILLS,LEGALLY IF THEY CHOOSE TOO. RON PAUL 2012 IF YOU WANT THESE CHANGES TO HAPPEN
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I know one thing from experience:

I'd feel much safer around a bunch of stoned potheads with guns than I would feel around a bunch of jacked up rednecks with half empty Jack Daniels whiskey bottles.

Think about this people: If marijuana is a good enough reason to suspend your 2nd Amendment rights, why wouldn't alcohol purchases be enough as well?


No wait, too many boozing cops.....

chuckle
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TWO WORDS: Fast and Furious. Enough said, disband them.
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the irony is that in some states you can't buy liquor without a gun.
 Quoting: Uncle Samurai


But in every state you can get you some liquor with a gun
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There are places in Houston (or at least there were in the 80's) where you can go through a drive through and buy a pistol and a mixed drink at the same window. it's not about marijuana users being dangerous with guns, any idiot that knows anyone that smokes weed knows thats a load of shit.

The people that SHOULD be forbidden from having guns are those on anti depressants, because every mass shooter in the past twenty years has been on them. That proves that the federal government is not to be respected, they need to govern DC and the specific duties assigned them in the Constitution and STAY THE FUCK OUT OF PEOPLES PERSONAL BUSINESS OR EXERCISE OF THEIR LIBERTIES
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That's such crap. Because then you would have to take all the guns away from anyone taking a controlled substance, like Insulin for example... oh wait, that works in their favor right???

Soon it won't be about just pot. It will also be about ALL controlled substances, even if you have a prescription, that is the TRUE goal of this. If this one makes it, they can use this as a precedence for other drugs, which we all take from time to time. RIGHT???
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Let me get this straight, I can have a prescription for Prozac, Zanax, Ritalin, and god knows what else, and walk around with my conceal and carry with no problem. But not the evil weed? Just another indication of Big Pharma Power. You can be stoned, but only on what THEY sell you. I gave up drinking years ago, and I have no problem admitting that I do enjoy the demon weed in it's place. I'm a professionally employed 45 year old and I really don't give a fuck what anyone thinks about it. These kind of laws are absolutely ridiculous. Once the "right people" are in place to profit from it marijuana will become legalized. It's simply another deeply controlled conspiracy. So light up pot heads.
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Cali reporting in

This is a moot point, as no one is tied into the registry anyway.

If you have a prescription, atleast in CA, no one could ever find out unless you told them or someone got a picture of you entering a dispensary.

Not a gunstore, not a cop, not even a judge.

I know from a recent custody case where cps was (un)involved.
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ATF: It's illegal for medical marijuana users to own, buy guns.
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seems perfectly reasonable to me. They should probably expand this policy for people on anti-depressants and alcohol abusers as well.
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"shall not be abridged"
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Cali reporting in

This is a moot point, as no one is tied into the registry anyway.

If you have a prescription, atleast in CA, no one could ever find out unless you told them or someone got a picture of you entering a dispensary.

Not a gunstore, not a cop, not even a judge.

I know from a recent custody case where cps was (un)involved.
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CPS will take your children for even the slightest hint of drug use. It's another example of how the government has done more harm that good, repeatedly. That is their intention IMHO. A person who smokes marijuana is only going to relate with their children better when they're stoned, that's why the bastards see it as such a problem.
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the irony is that in some states you can't buy liquor without a gun.
 Quoting: Uncle Samurai


But in every state you can get you some liquor with a gun
 Quoting: AWarriorsWay


There are places in Houston (or at least there were in the 80's) where you can go through a drive through and buy a pistol and a mixed drink at the same window. it's not about marijuana users being dangerous with guns, any idiot that knows anyone that smokes weed knows thats a load of shit.

The people that SHOULD be forbidden from having guns are those on anti depressants, because every mass shooter in the past twenty years has been on them. That proves that the federal government is not to be respected, they need to govern DC and the specific duties assigned them in the Constitution and STAY THE FUCK OUT OF PEOPLES PERSONAL BUSINESS OR EXERCISE OF THEIR LIBERTIES
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Well said.
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the feds are being lied to

but why
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ATF: It's illegal for medical marijuana users to own, buy guns.
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seems perfectly reasonable to me. They should probably expand this policy for people on anti-depressants and alcohol abusers as well.
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and people who have ever had a speeding ticket, or a DWI, or hunted or fished over their limit, or cheated on their taxes, or had a stormy divorce, or, or, or, or, or . . . . . . . . . . .
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"shall not be abridged"
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It's 'infringed', which means regulated or suppressed. What it means is that all federal gun laws are un-Constitutional, and that the Federal courts are ignoring the constitution.

The odd thing about it is, most states stay within the Constitution.
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TWO WORDS: Fast and Furious. Enough said, disband them.
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This is what really ought to be done. The problem is that this "F Troop" group as they are commonly known is now actually part of Obama's "civilian force that's just as strong, just as well equipped" mantra that he promised us.

Obama can't get approval through Congress, so he's going to use all of the alphabet soup agencies to get his Marxists/Communists agenda to come to fruition.

Remember that picture of him getting off the plane while holding that book called "The Post America World"???

If not: [link to 3.bp.blogspot.com]


As far as his domestic security force, of which F Troop is part of:

[link to www.youtube.com]

When he says we can't only rely on our military, he means that our military will be overseas fulfilling another agenda while a domestic police state is to be formed to swing gun barrels over to the American people...
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ATF: It's illegal for medical marijuana users to own, buy guns.
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seems perfectly reasonable to me. They should probably expand this policy for people on anti-depressants and alcohol abusers as well.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2061809


Don't you have any respect for the 2nd?
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ALL OF THESE ABC AGENCIES, ARE GOING OVERBOARD, THEY THINK THEY ARE GODS THAT CAN DO WHAT EVER THEY WANT ,ABOVE THE LAWS. THERE IS 2100 OF THESE AGENCIES THAT EMPLOY OVER 20 MILLION EMPLOYEES, ON THE GOVERNMENTS PAYROLL. ID SAY ABOUT 2000 OF THEM NEED TO BE CUT FROM THE BUDGET, F--CK THEM ALL. GIVE THE COUNTRY BACK TO THE PEOPLE, LET US HAVE OUR FREEDOM BACK. ADULTS IN EVERY STATE SHOULD BE ABLE TO SMOKE HERB IN THE PRIVACY OF THEIR OWN HOMES, WITHOUT THE THREAT OF THESE SCUMBAGS BREAKING DOWN THEIR DOORS. DRESSED LIKE STORMTROOPERS, JUST LIKE THEY ARE ALLOWED TO DRINK,CHEW AND SMOKE TABACCO, AND POP THEIR PILLS,LEGALLY IF THEY CHOOSE TOO. RON PAUL 2012 IF YOU WANT THESE CHANGES TO HAPPEN
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THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS
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or is addicted to marijuana
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Are people still this ignorant?
Be aware of what you KNOW and what you BELIEVE. Don't ever let what you believe block the path of knowledge, for knowledge is truth. Belief is a temporary crutch at best, and crutches are for disabled people.
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seems perfectly reasonable to me. They should probably expand this policy for people on anti-depressants and alcohol abusers as well.
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Classic case of "Well it doesn't affect me, so fuck 'em."
Be aware of what you KNOW and what you BELIEVE. Don't ever let what you believe block the path of knowledge, for knowledge is truth. Belief is a temporary crutch at best, and crutches are for disabled people.
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Think about...if you really get the herb, you gonna wanna shoot anybody?

bonghit
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Because everybody knows there are all kinds of dangerous and highly violent pot heads running around shooting people.... /sarcasm/

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