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Faster than light neutrinos could be proof of extra dimensions. Einstein would still be right. His theory might just be incomplete!

 
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Faster than light neutrinos could be proof of extra dimensions. Einstein would still be right. His theory might just be incomplete!
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The idea is that the speed of light does remain the fastest possible speed in the three spatial dimensions we're familiar with - but that the neutrinos aren't just traveling in those dimensions. Instead, they could take a shortcut through a theoretical fourth spatial dimension, which would provide a shorter distance between two points than would be possible in the normal three dimensions. The neutrinos still aren't exceeding the speed of light in this scenario. And yes, that is basically the particle physics equivalent of doing the Kessel Run in twelve parsecs.

Anyway, the larger idea here is that the three spatial dimensions and one temporal dimension we're familiar with are what make up a four-dimensional membrane, known as the brane. However, this brane "floats" in a larger reality known as the bulk. While in the ordinary course of things it would be impossible to leave the universe - to leave the brane - at incredibly high energies it might be possible for particles to temporarily break free and zip through the bulk.
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Basically, it's possible for Einstein to still be right and the speed of light to remain inviolate even if this result turns out to be a genuine discovery - his theory might just prove to be somewhat incomplete. And, if that's the case, then we're on the verge of some seriously exotic new realms of physics.
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I thouhjt with the quantum world of nuclear brickabrack you had entangment which would create the ilutions of whats seen
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Re: Faster than light neutrinos could be proof of extra dimensions. Einstein would still be right. His theory might just be incomplete!
There could be invisible, rainbow-coloured unicorns who fart ambrosia, living at the bottom of my garden!
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Very good thread, very interesting. 5* and pin
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Very good thread, very interesting. 5* and pin
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Thanks. I found it interesting. If this is true time travel might be possible.
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Very good thread, very interesting. 5* and pin
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Thanks. I found it interesting. If this is true time travel might be possible.
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It would mean many many possibilities
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... he actually changed his formula because the folks in those days wouldn't accept what he really found ...
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... he wanted to "keep his job" ... you know what I mean ...
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Very good thread, very interesting. 5* and pin
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Thanks. I found it interesting. If this is true time travel might be possible.
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It would mean many many possibilities
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What are the other possibilities?
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In all honesty, I don't know what it's worth. To me it just looks like a bunch of scientists guessing why it would reach destination faster than light. I just think they have no clue, or that they don't want to let go the old theory that light is the fastest speed.

I might be wrong though, but it looks too speculative for me to be considered.
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Very good thread, very interesting. 5* and pin
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Thanks. I found it interesting. If this is true time travel might be possible.
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It would mean many many possibilities
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What are the other possibilities?
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Time travel, it would give validity to string theory, could lead to galactic space travel. Just those 3 things right there each can lead to other possibilities, like new energy sources, discovery of alien life, colonization of distant planets, and so on
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Re: Faster than light neutrinos could be proof of extra dimensions. Einstein would still be right. His theory might just be incomplete!
In all honesty, I don't know what it's worth. To me it just looks like a bunch of scientists guessing why it would reach destination faster than light. I just think they have no clue, or that they don't want to let go the old theory that light is the fastest speed.

I might be wrong though, but it looks too speculative for me to be considered.
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[link to articles.baltimoresun.com]
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Of course, we have no more idea of what it will mean to future generations than the first readers of Einstein's theories did. Did physicists 100 years ago envision nuclear medicine, atomic power, deep space travel or any of the thousand other ideas and inventions that grew directly or indirectly from Einstein's work?
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Thanks. I found it interesting. If this is true time travel might be possible.
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It would mean many many possibilities
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What are the other possibilities?
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Time travel, it would give validity to string theory, could lead to galactic space travel. Just those 3 things right there each can lead to other possibilities, like new energy sources, discovery of alien life, colonization of distant planets, and so on
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Warp drive maybe or move a person from one location to another in an instant. Sounds a lot like Star Trek. cool2
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... he actually changed his formula because the folks in those days wouldn't accept what he really found ...
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Hmm yes.
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Re: Faster than light neutrinos could be proof of extra dimensions. Einstein would still be right. His theory might just be incomplete!
I read on a site that can't be linked here. This could be a way to send information back in time.


So if information can be sent back in time. The first thing that needs to be done is to build something to pick up the neutrinos. Maybe a message from the future is being sent waiting for us to pick it up. Morse code from the future.
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I know it's a crazy theory but I think those working at neutrino detectors should be looking for morse code as they are detecting neutrinos. Like the neutrino detector at the South Pole.


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Re: Faster than light neutrinos could be proof of extra dimensions. Einstein would still be right. His theory might just be incomplete!
I read on a site that can't be linked here. This could be a way to send information back in time.


So if information can be sent back in time. The first thing that needs to be done is to build something to pick up the neutrinos. Maybe a message from the future is being sent waiting for us to pick it up. Morse code from the future.
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What do you think premonitions are?
Numerous people on GLP and elsewhere have worked out that Time is not real.
I'm not trying to be insulting, as it's quite a mindboggling concept.
Essentially It All Happens At Once, but it seems to happen sequentially. In fact I read a recent New Scientist where it was termed Quantuum Superposition.
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